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Lanaia
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GGQ
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On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, chaos, he is a list: GMarshal youngminii Jackal58 ~OpZ~ Mr. Wiggles Kenpachi these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him. The following players I would describe as skilled, or at least very active when playing town: DropBear Cthsazsa Mig sandroba VisceraEyes Palmar Varpulis Everyone else I have no experience playing with. Neither have I, for the record! Your list is good but could include Eiii, I seem to remember him being around for a while. Also you could remove kenpachi, I heart the guy but he doesn't really belong on that list. As a sidenote, to whoever is the 'third party' that's deciding on the lurker list, I am physically capable of posting only in the evenings on most days, so please keep that in mind. Thanks | ||
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Palmar
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That's stupid. He could just as well be a red that didn't realize he could ask his scumteam. He is at the moment the scummiest player in the game in my opinion. One of the things that sucks about it is the fact that Hiro agrees with me, but hiro promised us an analysis on syllo that still hasn't showed up. Also, VisceraEyes keeps promising to deliver something good, but has yet failed to do so. If you aren't going to contribute, stop saying you're going to contribute. | ||
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Kenpachi
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 29 2011 12:46 Kenpachi wrote: dude Palmar why would he ask that question if he was red? Mafia decides the kill together so why would actions need to be sent in advance for them? Roleblocks? Seriously, this is a meta game thing and has nothing to do with the game at hand He hasn't contributed anything to the thread. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 29 2011 12:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not dropping my case against syllo because he asked a question about how to submit actions. That's stupid. He could just as well be a red that didn't realize he could ask his scumteam. He is at the moment the scummiest player in the game in my opinion. One of the things that sucks about it is the fact that Hiro agrees with me, but hiro promised us an analysis on syllo that still hasn't showed up. Also, VisceraEyes keeps promising to deliver something good, but has yet failed to do so. If you aren't going to contribute, stop saying you're going to contribute. Upon re-reading his big post about role analysis, I have to agree with sandroba. That post is very detrimental to the scumteam, because the guidelines and suggestions in it equate to strong blue play, in my opinion. Mafia would have no motivation to make a post like that, not even to gain town cred, because the risks outweigh the possible benefits. His play is very similar to his town play in XLII, iirc. (WifoM, I know, but something to take into account) Also, the bolded line is really not plausible. "He didn't realize that he could ask his scumteam?" Really? Frankly, you're trying to push a lost cause with poor logic and improbable situations at this point. What do you think about Drazerk? The case against him is stronger, and he has decided to fucking give up (I.e. not contribute so that nobody has anything to consider and make conclusions from except a fictional connection with GMarshal when/if he flips scum). Are you considering that evidence proving how town he is? | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On June 29 2011 12:48 Palmar wrote: Roleblocks? Seriously, this is a meta game thing and has nothing to do with the game at hand He hasn't contributed anything to the thread. I didn't even know there were roleblockers lol Metagame helps us is numerous ways though. are you willing to believe the mafia are a bunch of inactives who make their own decisions? I really cant argue the possibility of being a roleblocker but i think its more likely hes a blue | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Syllo popped on IRC at some point today and asked "does GF always submit mafia kills when he is still alive?". This doesn't paint him scum, again, generally I'd assume the guy could ask his scum team, but I'm not eating up some bullshit excuse that he's probably blue. he has one stupid out-of-the-game thing going for him, and one against him. I'd rather that NEITHER were brought up as an issue, but since someone is using that to defend him, I'm going to use that to accuse him. | ||
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~OpZ~
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On June 29 2011 12:33 Lanaia wrote: I've reread this thread and have made my decision. Between Hiro and Drazerk, I feel Drazerk is less valuable to the town. I mean this in that we should lynch him over Hiro. Of course, everything I feel has already been said by others because they were obviously faster than me. I figured I'd inform you in this thread. Since when is the lynch between hiro and Drazerk? We are mid way through the day ffs. I like how you don't even explain how drazerk is scum in the first place. That goes for most people voting for him. The way this bandwagon is forming quickly I'm pretty sure it would be a mistake to kill him. Also I'd like to hear from GGQ and Opz. I'm not shy about killing vets day1 and will tunnel you forever if you don't start posting opinions in this thread. | ||
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~OpZ~
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On June 29 2011 13:01 sandroba wrote: Since when is the lynch between hiro and Drazerk? We are mid way through the day ffs. I like how you don't even explain how drazerk is scum in the first place. That goes for most people voting for him. The way this bandwagon is forming quickly I'm pretty sure it would be a mistake to kill him. Also I'd like to hear from GGQ and Opz. I'm not shy about killing vets day1 and will tunnel you forever if you don't start posting opinions in this thread. Tunnel me. I won't care... | ||
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sandroba
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On June 29 2011 13:01 sandroba wrote: Since when is the lynch between hiro and Drazerk? We are mid way through the day ffs. I like how you don't even explain how drazerk is scum in the first place. That goes for most people voting for him. The way this bandwagon is forming quickly I'm pretty sure it would be a mistake to kill him. Also I'd like to hear from GGQ and Opz. I'm not shy about killing vets day1 and will tunnel you forever if you don't start posting opinions in this thread. I previously stated I was leaving and coming back to reread to decide between two people for MY vote. I never said it was the lynch. I was informing people of my vote as in the last game I played on TL, it was pretty much frowned upon to not tell people in the game thread. | ||
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~OpZ~
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 29 2011 12:58 Palmar wrote: Whatever, if you guys insist on clearing people on STUFF THAT ISN'T IN THE GAME, I'm going to do the same. Syllo popped on IRC at some point today and asked "does GF always submit mafia kills when he is still alive?". This doesn't paint him scum, again, generally I'd assume the guy could ask his scum team, but I'm not eating up some bullshit excuse that he's probably blue. he has one stupid out-of-the-game thing going for him, and one against him. I'd rather that NEITHER were brought up as an issue, but since someone is using that to defend him, I'm going to use that to accuse him. I don't suppose that you have proof? I don't recall bringing up outside of game evidence. Asking questions in the thread is inside the game evidence. Posting about the setup, roles, and mechanics during the game is inside the game evidence. His meta is not, but that isn't my main point. I even admitted that it's WifoM. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On June 29 2011 01:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Only 4 pages in 8 hours...not bad guys, but it seems we're caught up in a lot of mudslinging and tunneling, something I thought we as a town vowed not to do d1. Yes, we have to find a lynch target for today...but come on guys. Bring a case with SUBSTANCE. I know, I haven't done much in the way of scumhunting yet. You don't have to remind me. I'm working on a case as we speak. Just letting you know I'm awake and reading. Ciao! This post was made 12 hours ago. As Palmar pointed out, I haven't seen a case yet. Why not? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 29 2011 13:06 Varpulis wrote: I don't suppose that you have proof? I don't recall bringing up outside of game evidence. Asking questions in the thread is inside the game evidence. Posting about the setup, roles, and mechanics during the game is inside the game evidence. His meta is not, but that isn't my main point. I even admitted that it's WifoM. yah, exactly, this is wifom. I can paste the IRC logs? But how about you look at the evidence at hand, the fact that he has posted almost exclusively blanket statements, the fact that he OMGUS'd me without the balls to put a vote on me with it, the fact that his defense relies on some analysis of mechanics that anyone wanting town credit could've done. I'd much rather you look at what I said in the post I voted against him and judged him on that. | ||
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chaos13
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On June 29 2011 13:12 chaos13 wrote: As for syllogism, a smart townie would not even ask such a question in the thread, especially if they are a blue. Rather, they would PM a host, because softclaiming blue like that would make a BIG target for a scum hit. A post like the one being referenced should take away town cred rather than provide it. I do agree with this, especially the PMing a mod bit, but what if he's just trying to lure a hit away from a blue? I know, this is WIFOM-y in and of itself. This also probably depends on how new he is to mafia (I'm unsure, I've never played with him). Again, though, I do think he's town. | ||
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