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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/JftiqtZ2SzhYY Thoughts: Reasons Contributing To Why Mafia Got Bent Over And Raped: 1. General Inexperience of Scum: As far as I can tell, for several of the mafia members, this was only their first or second game as scum. Three of them (Drazerk, Visc, DB) failed at staying hidden in a way I saw as irreparable, which I attribute to lack of individual experience as scum. As well, I have never led a mafia team before, and most (Read: All) of my games as scum have had a very hands-off approach to how the mafia team was managed in their posting. As well, I just don't like the idea of micro-managing people's posting. 2. An Actually Decent Town for Once: This compounds with the first point somewhat. Most of my games, have been against town's who are incredibly bad. This was the first time I've played a town that actually didn't manage to tear itself apart on the first day. So, I didn't know what to expect or how to react, really. Town also had good aim, which is a side-effect of the first point. Kudos to town for being alright for once. :p 3. No Down-Time for Mafia: I think this is actually an important point especially with the real-time mechanic and the lurker list. Normally, there are night phases, where town is not as active, and where mafia are given a chance to think and plan. This game does not feature night phases, and the entire game is essentially a day phase. As well, there is a lurker mechanic in play to encourage activity, and punish those who are seen to be "lurking". So, what happened to me the first day, is I spent a lot of time with the mafia team, and trying to figure out what to do, and that impacted on my posting, getting me on the lurkers list. The next day, I was able to be much more active, but that came at the sacrifice of being able to coordinate with my teammates. So, mafia is hard-pressed to actually be able to organize itself, as they have to be constantly posting to avoid the lurker list, or they have to risk being placed there, to spend more time communicating with their teammates. 4. High Concentration of Blues Amongst Vets: This actually affected me, I think, and is mostly coincidence. However, there were confirmable blues in the form of YM, GM, and ~OpZ~, which didn't help me at the end of day 2. As far as I can tell, I was mostly lynched because "I was probably GF", using the fact that mafia would have at least one veteran, and with most vets either being dead, or being confirmable blues, I was pretty much the only choice left after process of elimination and general scuminess. Correct me if you had other reasons for the lynch, I can't tell as there was little discussion around it. Suggestions:
Let me know what you think, and thanks for hosting, RoL, Kurumi, and Node. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
 . Oh well.This was also my first experience in subbing in to a game. I didn't like it at all, even though I subbed in during day 1... I felt uncomfortable and uncommitted the whole time. As to the setup itself, I thought it was really cool. I dont think anyone commented on the fact that mafia in this game had 3kills/48 hours instead of 3kills/72 hours. Just something to note among the other balance factors. Anyways, gg, well played to many players. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
I was actually actively fishing for a mafia shot early on, but that got derailed pretty quick. In my first game I didn't mention any blue roles at all as green and now I started doing pretty much the opposite. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
"Sick that chaos was the other detective. He made it so obvious with how anti VE he was. Silly chaos. But that is why I really wish we had shot him before varp. Oh well." I was trying to make it obvious that I was against VE. If VE was a real DT, no harm done. If he was mafia, you guys shoot me and town now knows to lynch VE because there is no way there would be 3 DT's. I was also able to breadcrumb (quite obviously) my check on one of towns major suspects and save a medic from being lynched. Dying when I did actually did more for town than staying alive and checking someone would. | ||
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
But from the day I played, it was really fun. We should definitely play more games like this and experiment with 3rd party roles and other special rules. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
But man, I tried to lynch half the blues in the game along with the mafia, I really seem to have a thing for getting blue people killed. Youngminii GMarshal Sinani201 Along with VisceraEyes Wiggles Drazerk | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On July 05 2011 06:11 GGQ wrote: Welp, after such a lackluster game, I'm glad I got the chance to hammer on the last mafia, the guy I had major suspicions of since my first read-through. I only have notes up to page 22 I think, but one of them is in capital letters "MIG MIG MIG - FLYING WAY UNDER THE RADAR". Unfortunately, I never had the thread presence or the motivation to push him as a legitimate lynch target, so I just seized the opportunity to lynch him when it came up lol. Looking back, I actually have 4 of the scum on my shortlist of suspects by page 22, and I only excluded VE because I knew he was the alternate lynch to drazerk whom I thought was scum. I missed Kenpachi because tbh I skip his posts but in retrospect I think I see a difference now between his town play and his scum play. Too bad for me that I had GMarshal at the top of my scumlist. I feel bad about that because it's always been very obvious to me what GMarshal's alignment is . Oh well.This was also my first experience in subbing in to a game. I didn't like it at all, even though I subbed in during day 1... I felt uncomfortable and uncommitted the whole time. As to the setup itself, I thought it was really cool. I dont think anyone commented on the fact that mafia in this game had 3kills/48 hours instead of 3kills/72 hours. Just something to note among the other balance factors. Anyways, gg, well played to many players. what difference? | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Before I could make up my mind, shots fell and all scum were killed by vigilantes. It was highly disorienting. I don´t think I will ever sub in a game again. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
I'm hardly going to tell you that, am I?  -edit lol to be honest, I'm not very confident. I'll have to test it out before I know whether or not I'm just imagining it | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
I was a bit surprised by the bomb, but oh well! | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
lol at wiggles being mafia again. I have played 3 games with you and your always scum I am just gonna start auto voting you from now on. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On July 05 2011 16:56 Lanaia wrote: GG everyone. Didn't realize it was over. I was a bit surprised by the bomb, but oh well! My bad. In my defense, I did ask everybody what they thought of you, but the only reply I got wasn't too convincing. At least you weren't blue  If only my bomb was on Mig, then we'd have a clean sweep, no townies killed (excepting night kills) | ||
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