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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 10:11 GMT
#1661
Yes, I should have realized there was another role blocker when YM said he got blocked on day 2.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 04 2011 10:36 GMT
#1662
The most frustrating part for me by far is just the fact that I put A LOT of thought and preparation into planning the case to defend myself once someone put the effort in to do an actual analysis of me instead of people just casually calling me suspicious for no real reason. Obviously I might have still failed to convince people once someone attacked me but I would have liked to at least try :p

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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 10:37 GMT
#1663
Hiro was town MVP for starting the wagon, obviously
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 04 2011 10:47 GMT
#1664
A couple explanations for somethings that happened during the game from our side.

The navillus hit - I had originally thought he might be blue because of him asking the dt question in the thread. But after talking with wiggles he convinced us that navillus was not blue and if he had been he probably would have pmd rol his question. So we decided against hitting him but dropbear had serious blood lust and just constantly wanted to kill people in real time. So while me and wiggles were asleep he got impatient and sent in the kill for nav. Definitely a huge mistake.

VE claiming dt - This wasn't planned out by anyone VE came up with it on his own spontaneously. If GM had convinced people to lynch VE and he had flipped red it would have giving draz such town cred would have been great. Even tho that didn't happen I thought it was still ok. The case against VE was super strong so he was going to be lynched very soon regardless. We all knew the dt claim was just a temporary solution because there was still a likely dt out there who would end up exposing him but the claim might be able to buy him a little time.

Varp/chaos hit - When we were debating day 2 kills I said over and over and over that if we were going to kill varp to try and buy VE more time we needed to send the varp kill in last. I thought either jackal or chaos was the other dt because they were speaking out so strongly against VE. If we killed the other dt first we knew there wasn't much hope for VE so we wouldn't bother to kill varp. But kenpachi accidentally sent in the varp kill first. If we had sent them in the right order we never would have killed varp and things could have turned out a lot different.

So a lack of communication caused a lot of mistakes that really cost us overall.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 04 2011 10:54 GMT
#1665
Since VE claimed to check Varpulis,I was dead sure he is going to blow him up. Why?
"I checked him but I can't out him because mafia will snipe him" Sounds like he got a blue,town! But why he won't tell us anyway then? This should be picked on,still though Lanaia hit was quite legit.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 04 2011 11:00 GMT
#1666
On July 04 2011 19:54 Kurumi wrote:
Since VE claimed to check Varpulis,I was dead sure he is going to blow him up. Why?
"I checked him but I can't out him because mafia will snipe him" Sounds like he got a blue,town! But why he won't tell us anyway then? This should be picked on,still though Lanaia hit was quite legit.


Yea I agree our original plan was just to have VE claim rb constantly but then db got hit and the town all assumed he was our only rb so VE trying to claim that probably wouldn't have done him much good anyway.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 04 2011 11:43 GMT
#1667
Apologies for playing a god awful game, RL really fucked me over. I give myself the LVP award
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 04 2011 11:48 GMT
#1668
On July 04 2011 20:43 GMarshal wrote:
Apologies for playing a god awful game, RL really fucked me over. I give myself the LVP award


No No I get that one, I should of befriended you earlier when suspicion wasn't on me. Allowing the remaining mafia to actually build a good case against you.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 04 2011 12:12 GMT
#1669
gg
Computer says mafia
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 04 2011 12:37 GMT
#1670
This is where I apologize to Palmar. When I first started calling you scum it was only because scum have a tendency to let stupid people live. I really thought you were town. Scum love to keep townies alive that are calling other townies scum. And then you protected VisceraEyes. He was about as confirmed scum as you ever get in this game. You never protect scum if you're a townie. Never. You find scum you lynch them. It was at that point I had serious doubts about you man. And then when I did my plan I figured only scum would object to it. Didn't really care if town followed it or not. I just wanted to see who on the list would scream fuck no the loudest. You did Palmar. Because scum could never agree to a plan like that. Again sorry. But never protect scum when you're a townie. Never.
Life can only kill you once.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 04 2011 12:45 GMT
#1671
On July 04 2011 21:37 Jackal58 wrote:
This is where I apologize to Palmar. When I first started calling you scum it was only because scum have a tendency to let stupid people live. I really thought you were town. Scum love to keep townies alive that are calling other townies scum. And then you protected VisceraEyes. He was about as confirmed scum as you ever get in this game. You never protect scum if you're a townie. Never. You find scum you lynch them. It was at that point I had serious doubts about you man. And then when I did my plan I figured only scum would object to it. Didn't really care if town followed it or not. I just wanted to see who on the list would scream fuck no the loudest. You did Palmar. Because scum could never agree to a plan like that. Again sorry. But never protect scum when you're a townie. Never.


yah, still learning!

Thanks for the tips, good game.
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 13:34:32
July 04 2011 12:45 GMT
#1672
Mig and Wiggles both slipped by somewhat protecting VE at that point, especially since they didn't even mention that hitting scum would lower mafia KP by 1. You put a lot of thought into the defense and glossed over such an important detail. Indeed, the defense made it sound like you just wanted him to live one more day. Further, if you are highly suspicious of someone, you shouldn't be defending him at least until the person in question has at least addressed the concerns. Mig completely ignored VE's really poor explanation, despite being around, I should have noticed that. I had to dismiss Palmar's reluctance as bad play (otherwise your play was pretty flawless) as it didn't make sense for him to aggressively bus everyone else on his team and then object to lynching the most obvious scum in the game.

e: as for GGQ, I didn't realize there was a 50min gap between his post and the Wiggles lynch deadline, the announcement post was just late, so you weren't really lurking when youngminii claim occurred
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 04 2011 12:47 GMT
#1673
By the way Jackal, I'm not lying, I was fabricating the argument about your plan.

I found it an excellent way of confirming everyone on that list as town.

but yes, Mig completely slid under my radar.
Computer says mafia
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 04 2011 12:53 GMT
#1674
Apparently this particular MiG couldn't fly low enough. Kudos to you guys that voted him. I definitely developed tunnel vision yesterday.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 04 2011 13:51 GMT
#1675
So tell me RoL - Did you make me a miller?
Life can only kill you once.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 04 2011 13:55 GMT
#1676
On July 04 2011 22:51 Jackal58 wrote:
So tell me RoL - Did you make me a miller?

Syllogism and Palmar were the millers.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 04 2011 14:10 GMT
#1677
On July 04 2011 20:48 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 20:43 GMarshal wrote:
Apologies for playing a god awful game, RL really fucked me over. I give myself the LVP award


No No I get that one, I should of befriended you earlier when suspicion wasn't on me. Allowing the remaining mafia to actually build a good case against you.

you totally got me man, i need more experience ^^
Also GM you totally screwed yourself over, if you werent vet you were the day2 lynch proly
dr Helvetica <3
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 14:13 GMT
#1678
TAA was that one post a breadcrumb of some sort?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 04 2011 14:15 GMT
#1679
On July 04 2011 23:13 syllogism wrote:
TAA was that one post a breadcrumb of some sort?

He dt checked Drazerk.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 04 2011 14:36 GMT
#1680
On July 04 2011 23:13 syllogism wrote:
TAA was that one post a breadcrumb of some sort?

i spelled it out for you
I have strong scum vibes
dtcheck drazerk
thought i was making it too obvious lol
dr Helvetica <3
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