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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:29 GGQ wrote: Havent followed this thread at all, will be back later tonight with a post, I hope. I'm not mafia, though. You're always mafia bro. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
For example, if I hadn't read further into the thread after Palmar's posts, I wouldn't have seen what YM said, and would have begun waging a bloody crusade against him. Stuff like this is important to see, and I personally don't think you should be trying to make analysis or contribute without all the information available to you, and without knowing what's been addressed or not already. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I'd like to ask everyone to read through the entirety of the thread before they start posting, especially if what they have to say is only relevant to a past discussion. This will stop people bringing up things that the rest of town has mostly stopped talking about, and restarting a useless discussion. If you want to see an example of that, look at PTP, where I brought up Sandroba's "plan" later on in Day 1, and caused a several hours long shit storm as mafia. Let bad plans and old discussion lie, unless you have a pressing or relevant reason for bringing it up again, or have something completely new to add. Anything else is just derailing discussion. (As a note, if someone brings up a bad plan you made in an analysis, don't start endlessly discussing the merits of the plan again, or I will personally end you :p) For example, if I hadn't read further into the thread after Palmar's posts, I wouldn't have seen what YM said, and would have begun waging a bloody crusade against him. Stuff like this is important to see, and I personally don't think you should be trying to make analysis or contribute without all the information available to you, and without knowing what's been addressed or not already. you'll always end up with some rehashed discussion as not everyone is awake at the same time. also FoS on you for not being on a bloody crusade against me. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:18 Varpulis wrote: um, the lurker discussion ended ages ago. You might want to catch up fully before yelling at people to stop doing something that they're no longer doing. Also, there are in fact some lurkers. (Hi Kenpachi) We're just not talking about them. We are instead discussing who to lynch. What do you think of syllogism? I've failed to see why syllogism/GM/TAA/Sinani/Nisani/Jackal are good lynch targets. I've been reading in between all of these page-long posts (The huge ass arguments between GM and TAA make it oh-so-harder >_> ), and the only person that plainly sticks out to me is Drazerk. I'm going to go back and read each of his posts. I'm thinking of doing a PbP analysis because honestly, I'm getting red vibes from this dude. | ||
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:39 Cthsazsa wrote: I've failed to see why syllogism/GM/TAA/Sinani/Nisani/Jackal are good lynch targets. I've been reading in between all of these page-long posts (The huge ass arguments between GM and TAA make it oh-so-harder >_> ), and the only person that plainly sticks out to me is Drazerk. I'm going to go back and read each of his posts. I'm thinking of doing a PbP analysis because honestly, I'm getting red vibes from this dude. I don't know about you but no one is talking about GM/TAA/Jackal anymore, the other two are not really under discussion now. Last page was about syllogism. Ok, now what do you guys think about chaos13? | ||
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Rean
Netherlands808 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Next we shall stop discussing GM for now. He's always been a bad day1 lynch and if he's mafia he will make himself obvious soon enough. The purpose of generating useful info along the way has been fulfilled. Now onto Palmar and TAA: you guys need to stop cluthering up the thread and posting every single thought that comes to your mind responding to every single post made. Also those huge PBP analysis (I'm looking at you Varp) are very bad. It's not like mafia gives themselves away in every single post. Keep it good and keep it simple. If you notice a trend, go ahead and post it, but don't look at every one of a player's post with a conclusion already in your mind. Drazek: My first instinct is that this guy was scum based off his wishy washy post on GM//YM, but since than I'm feeling more and more this guys is town, specially after his post defending GM. Look at the way he goes about it: he sticks his neck out and it's not the way scum usually do it. Someone that's caught my eyes based on his responses was Sinani206, because of this 2 posts that I feel are slips, that come from a "I know I'm guilty mindset": On June 29 2011 02:20 sinani206 wrote: The roles aren't randomized, the host balances the game with help from some other people. Either way, I don't think the host would put us on the same team for various reasons. On June 29 2011 03:13 sinani206 wrote: *sigh* Why do I always get lynched D1? Drazerk and Palmar both have crappy reasons for voting for me. DropBear is the only one that had a good reason but now he's tunneling. GM is obviously a better candidate. 1st is obvious and the 2nd is "Why me?" scum mindset and stating that DropBear has good reason for thinking he's scum. That's a pretty clear sign of knowing you are guilty. My vote goes to him. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
You keep making me worry when nothing even happens. You are a very distracting mod. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
@vain It's called pressure and testing people's reactions. I retract my statement that his role analysis was misguided and included misinformation though. I think i was misinterpreting. regarding chaos13: To be honest I think that your case in incredibly weak. He hasn't been posting fluff any more than the rest of us have. He's defending the person he thinks is town. The list thing is iffy but I see town motivations for it, especially because he didn't provide the list himself and tell us to follow it. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On June 29 2011 07:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Still love ya man. | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
With all of his one-liner type posts this dude is talking just to remain off the lurker list while trying to blend in with town and look like he's contributing. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 16:38 Drazerk wrote: Right I have just woke up and I am read the thread. @Sandroba - Ive not got an Opinion on Gm yet he seems to be pro town just crazy about killing lurkers which would not be a bad thing in any other game but with the lurker mechanic all the scum will More or less be spamming to stay off it. As for Young His plan seemed to revolve around the mafia only having 1 KP which could of been a mistake rather than a Deliberate plan to confuse the medics but it is less likely to be a mafia ploy since he would know about the KP. It is possible for Gm to be scum but I still need to read through the whole of the thread before i can make my mind up Drazerk's very first post of the game. It contains nothing of value, except for the very last sentence. He is very hesitant to choose a side. He's waiting for what everyone else has to say before he makes a move. On June 28 2011 21:46 Drazerk wrote: After reading Dropbear's post on Henry is anyone Else suspicious of Edward the first? At the start of the game he is Pretty much forced into talking by Henry which Dropbear picked up on but no one really followed it up. ( I think LSB died a few moments later ) As other people have said the majority of his posts are him stating they are not the same person and the only thing he has truly contributed was outlining a mistake by Chaos Either Alerting his mafia buddies of a possible medic claim or just being stupid Personally Im suspecting Both Edward and Henry due to the amount of Fluff they are producing to keep of that lurker list This was your 2nd post of the game and it contained nothing worth mentioning or reading, yet you're criticizing Nisani for not contributing? Personally it looks like you're just talking to stay off the lurker list. It also looks like you're trying to make a bandwagon on the twins. Your only reason for FoS'ing them is "DropBear said so" and "they're posting fluff". Wtf? On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote: Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game ) First off I think it's hilarious how everyone missed the sarcasm in Palmar's post. Why won't you tell us why they're possible scum? & yes, their conversation was pointless but there was no other real discussion happening while Sinani did that. Also you're acting very hypocritical because your first 3 posts haven't done anything except cause me to find you suspicious. There you go. Drazerk's first three posts of the game. What was the importance of the Big 3? He refused to choose a side until other people voiced their opinion. As soon as DropBear brought up the twins, Drazerk flew in from nowhere and immediately FoS'd them. His reasons were so weak and contradictory they aren't worth an FoS and look more like an attempt to start a bandwagon. You're saying that they're scum for posting fluff/not contributing, but read these 3 posts and tell me you're not doing the same exact thing as them. It looks like Drazerk was posting just cause. He had nothing valuable that was worth saying. Drazerk goes on to vote for Sinani206, which is weird because he clearly said that (for some reason I have yet to know) he finds Sinani201 (Nisani) to be the more suspicious one. His next three posts are all empty one-liners that aren't worth quoting. his 7th post. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote: How do I always get pinned as mafia within the first day... Do you really want me to start martyring again? left right and centre? Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive ) As for Hiro I did not get into the day until after he dropped off and am going to need to look at all of his posts again before I say anything. Make up your mind man! Why weren't you able to make up your mind about GM?? You have also yet to explain why the twins are a viable lynch target. Again, it adds absolutely nothing -_- This is probably his biggest post of the game, and even if I put it in spoilers I think it would still clutter up this post >_> But here it is. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=19#363 TL;DR ? Good. That means as mafia he achieved his goal. He made a HUGE-ASS post that looks like it's contributing, but it doesn't do jack shit. Look past the words and it's an empty post with nothing. Absolutely no valuable. The ONLY THING that post did was explain why he doesn't think GMarshal is scum. He then proceeds to bring up the list, which I believe was already a dead discussion, quotes the WHOLE DAMN THING and simply says "It will be important in the future" His next 6 posts have a bare minimum of 2 SENTENCES in them. They don't contribute shit. All he's doing is talking just to stay off the lurker list while not helping Town at all. I ask everyone to spare 10 minutes of their time and read Drazerk's post history in this thread. He hasn't done jack squat all the while trying to start a bandwagon and accuse people of the same exact crime he is committing. As of now I find him a way better lynch candid then anyone else here. I will be voting for Drazerk, and I plan to keep it there. ##Vote: Drazerk | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
No. I do not condone lynching without analysis. I have never said this, and I never will say this. I'm constantly amazed at how the point of such a tool goes right over everyone's head. Please note that I was not actually accusing you of being scum (that wasn't the intent of my post, at least), I just wanted to see you contribute more, because I couldn't get a read on you due to your lack of posts with content. I would still like to hear your opinion on Sinani206 and syllogism. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
You still have not given me a reason not to vote for you. I am willing to believe you when you say all of your posts are not fluff and are pro-town, but none of your posts tells me who you think are scum, or what your opinion on anyone is. time for you to step up. Tell me who YOU think is scum. Give opinions on other lynch candidates. Do this, and I will move my vote off you. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Around 15 people haven't even voted yet and most of them haven't expressed any suspicion yet. See the problem? | ||
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