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On June 29 2011 05:17 syllogism wrote:
Hey guys here's a good OMGUS for you.
Just hit that all button, press ctrl-f and type Palmer
Then look through the useless pile of junk he's created
the difference is that all Palmars post have context in the thread. All of your post could be placed anywhere in the thread and not look out of place (hint: thats how a scum posts if he wants to look like he is contributing). Give me a real reason Palmar is scummy, or on anyone for that matter. Give me a reason not to vote for you.
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I'm not afraid of leading bad lynches at all, but I'm not going to lead lynches I don't believe in. There are a few players who are slightly suspicious (Drazerk for one), but the problem for me is that it's impossible to tell if they are bad town (like me I suppose), or bad mafia. Such a lynch is definitely preferable to lynching an active, contributing player like GMarshall, so I'll commit to such a lynch later or even make a case. There are also surprisingly many good players still lurking.
Also I maintain my analysis of the game mechanics was clearly pro-town and useful, which is more than can be said of your contributions so far.
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I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll.
What do you think of syllogism and sinani206?
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On June 29 2011 05:33 chaos13 wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll.
What do you think of syllogism and sinani206?
Why does your town play always consist of soft defending and asking questions?
Or is that your scum play too?
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On June 29 2011 05:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 05:33 chaos13 wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll.
What do you think of syllogism and sinani206? Why does your town play always consist of soft defending and asking questions? Or is that your scum play too?
That's just the way I roll as town. I generally ask questions without revealing my opinion first so I can compare someone's thoughts to mine. If I have a town read and people are attacking them, I'll generally defend them so we can avoid a bad lynch. When I find someone I think is scum, I'll make an analysis on them. However, I'm also happy to answer any questions directed towards me. I won't hold back my opinions.
I've only played one game as scum before, but my play in it consisted of attacking lurkers and being the town leader. I also voted for inactives/lurkers so I wouldn't have to be accountable for voting someone who flipped town. My play styles are very different.
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Drazerk gives me really strong strong scum vibes. Though at this point it doesnt make much sense anymore. Care to explain why you started to attack the sinani's? Hitting them doesnt make sense to me at all, they are playing anti town, but not scum. Everything pointed at GM at that point. Killing them seems a bit premature. so if drazerkcan explain that a bit more would be nice.
syllo, stop taking everything so personal, and stop arguing makes you look bad/scum also makes it hard for me to read you.
Cya in the morning guys, hope i wont be dead <3
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I don't mind being attacked, the issue is more when a more experienced player accuses me of not contributing while he has done nothing at all so far. Of course, that could just be an indication of his alignment, but it's still hard not to react. I strongly believe my posts early on were all pro-town or neutral despite mostly being related to game mechanics.
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syllogism, your OMGUS is really weak. Palmar has, in fact contributed. His contributions, apart from firmly taking a stance on issues, predominantly feature his constant pressure and vote against you. Just because he didn't post a wall of text doesn't mean he's not contributing. The trouble with your role analysis is that it's misguided and often misinformed.
His defense is really scummy imo, because it relies on undermining the credibility of the accuser instead of defending himself and trying to contribute.
Time to turn up the heat.
##unvote gtrsrs
##vote syllogism
Oh, and gtrsrs, I'm still watching you. Step it up please.
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On June 29 2011 05:39 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Drazerk gives me really strong strong scum vibes. Though at this point it doesnt make much sense anymore. Care to explain why you started to attack the sinani's? Hitting them doesnt make sense to me at all, they are playing anti town, but not scum. Everything pointed at GM at that point. Killing them seems a bit premature. so if drazerkcan explain that a bit more would be nice.
syllo, stop taking everything so personal, and stop arguing makes you look bad/scum also makes it hard for me to read you.
Cya in the morning guys, hope i wont be dead <3
If you look at my style of playing town I generally don't focus on the Main FoS as that is when mafia tend to pop out and make mistakes.
This time i had no opinion on Gm either way and I wanted to show some light on two scummy targets
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Oh hell no....I go to work ONE DAY, and 22 pages is the mess I come back to....I'll be reading here shortly...gotta start my lap top.
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On June 29 2011 05:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 05:33 chaos13 wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll.
What do you think of syllogism and sinani206? Why does your town play always consist of soft defending and asking questions? Or is that your scum play too?
Fuck. I was waiting for him to post a bit more of that stuff before i layed down my analysis of him. But now you attended it to him i will post what i have now.
These are all the posts of chaos13 the ones which are in my opinion not very interesting are labeled as such.
+ Show Spoiler [fluff] +On June 28 2011 12:05 chaos13 wrote:
Lurkers should be shot wherever and whenever possible. It may mean that our DT's lurker checks are not as effective (or should not be used at all even), but the activity levels will make up for that. Lurkers don't do us any good. This will also remove a very common, very effective mafia tactic, and force the inexperienced players, who would naturally gravitate towards lurking, to actually contribute, and therefore be more likely to slip up.
This means we don't have to worry about pressuring lurkers or inactives, as roles will take care of it.
Therefore, our Day 1 priority needs to be creating a good pro-town atmosphere. This means not making random accusations, and not spamming and posting one-liners. Keep your contributions quality rather than quantity. Do not be afraid of the lurker list and post every single thought you have if it isn't relevant.
Let's make it so mafia cannot hide due to us just being too damn pro-town.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 12:24 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting. FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage.
Calling youngminii scum and more fluff
+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 12:31 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 12:27 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:24 chaos13 wrote:On June 28 2011 12:20 youngminii wrote:On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!
I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.
so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).
Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.
Do not do this, Vig you should be targeting who they feel is scum, not anyone that is spammy. First off, scum are not stupid, they won't be spamming up the thread for the sake of spamming the thread. Second, by saying "just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense" in the thread will obviously signal scum to be very delicate and careful with their posting.
FoS on you for this, it's a very flawed plan, everyone knows what a lurker is and what's not, if someone appears to be spammy and their playstyle lines up with scum then go ahead and shoot them but as soon as you start directing who the Vig should hit publically is when mafia get an advantage. Does that really warrant an FoS? Are you willing to vote to back that up right now? Things like this should be kept in mind and used as evidence later on in the day phase when you actually have enough information and evidence to confidently label someone as scum. What it seems like here is that you're pushing a scum agenda trying to create an anti-town atmosphere of paranoia and weakly based suspicion. I respectfully disagree with your philosophy of not being aggressive against anyone. More pressure = more slip ups, that's the point. Just don't take it personally and bandwagon it etc. There is a difference between being aggressive and being anti-town. I would also like to bring this post to light: On June 28 2011 11:57 youngminii wrote:
Good post GMarshal, I wasn't aware scum were targeting lurkers too this game. It's almost as if they're a 3rd party faction. I like how you make a giant warning against lurkers when the game itself is designed to punish them. "I wasn't aware scum were targeting lurkers too this game." After reading through GMarshal's post again, the only conclusion I can come to is that you mean to call GM scummy, when that post is one of the most pro-town things I have seen and probably will see this whole game. I'm all for pressuring and being aggressive. What I am not for is making weak accusations without evidence to support them
Laying words in youngminii's mouth, which to me is at the least not a very nice thing to do. Mind that he states GM is very, very pro-town.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote:
Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first.
He askes for a list. that's it. Although he gives an explanation for it, it is hardly a contribution.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 13:30 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 13:24 GMarshal wrote:On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote:
Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first.
Why? What goal is this list trying to achieve? What use do you intend to put it to?
I mean if you give me a good justification I don't mind doing it, but it needs to have a purpose that helps the town, rather than cluttering space ^_^ If 5/7 of the experienced veteran players are dead by day 3/4 and the new or intermediate players are starting to die instead, it's a good indication you've got mafia and should really start examining those player's posts. It's a tool I use in every game that is generally quite effective. Normally I would just make one and keep it to myself, but I don't know a lot of the names here or the meta that goes along with me, so I would appreciate some input from someone who does 
Isn't this pointing out the obvious? why say this when you can keep this piece of information to yourself and bring it to the board when we ARE in that situation? Now the mafia can just say: "yeah *insert vet* is still alive because the mafia know the town is going to kill the remaining vets as pointed out by chaos13".
+ Show Spoiler +On June 29 2011 03:18 chaos13 wrote:
1: I think the bandwagon on GMarshal is stupid and ridiculous. He has been more vocal and pro-town than anyone else in the game so far, and has clearly demonstrated that he is not afraid to be questioned, pressured, and is willing to share his thoughts and opinions. I would suggest DT roles go take a look if there are any players who subtly called him scummy and then let others pick up the bandwagon. Those are the people you should probably check today.
2: theAwesomeAll - You're doing a lot of weak FoS'ing and fingerpointing, but you are at least trying to come up with a case for each one. What I suggest you do is calm down a bit and really start analyzing those players and come up with a solid case, and for today just focus on one or two. However, you've shown that you are active and ready to share your thoughts, so I think you are most likely town.
3: youngminii - I'm still not comfortable with you. Yes, you improved your FoS' slightly, but they're still flying all over the place and still targeting seemingly random players. I would give you the same advice I suggested to theAwesomAll. Get more evidence before you accuse someone.
4: Sinani206 - Lots of fluff from you, little of substance. I would like to see more opinions from you on other players. All I can recall at the moment is discussion of lurkers/game mechanics and other safe topics.
5: Jackal58 - He isn't as active as usual, but I felt that his one post was very pro-town. At the point he made it we had fallen into a mess discussing lurkers when that topic had already been resolved at the beginning of the game, and he stopped this. As town he loves making angry posts about how dumb town is being, and they almost always serve to get discussion back on track.
6: One thing I feel needs to be mentioned: We have five different people with 1-2 votes each on them. This won't do us any good, since scum can support any one of those arguments and make a sly vote that won't put them in the spotlight. We need to keep our lynch candidates to a small number so that scum are pressured to make a decision.
This is the post that made me write the analysis. I numbered the different parts for commenting.
1: this is the THIRD time he's defending Gmarshall. It's like he's some sort of demi-God for him. Why would he care so much if there are some people are voting for Gmarshall? Futhermore 2 people is hardly a bandwagon. Then tips our detectives to go and look for people accusing him but not pointing out who. man that's usefull.
2,3,4: Nothing too special here(or informative)
5: Well, he like Jackal that's for sure. Sucks his conclusion is totally flawed. You can even look it up. It was not Jackal who diverted discussion away from the lurker discussion. If you go back in the thread you will see that it was Dropbear and Drazerk who guided discussion to sinai206&201.
6: Fluff
+ Show Spoiler +On June 29 2011 05:33 chaos13 wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll.
What do you think of syllogism and sinani206?
Well he is accusing someone but its not that he is doing it. It is HOW he does it. This is like the softest accusation in the thread jet. If i were Vain(oh wait, i am) i would be surely trembling on my feet. Yeah, he accuses me but i could have just ignored him and no one would ever know because when i start posting again everything will be fine again>.<
+ Show Spoiler +[QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:39 chaos13 wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:34 Palmar wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 29 2011 05:33 chaos13 wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing Vain contribute some more. So far you have made very few posts, and only 2 of those were actually discussing players. The rest were directed towards RoL or some other topic. Right now you're looking to me like a mafia who is trying to avoid the lurker list, but being careful not to contribute much. The only thing of note you have done is defending theAwesomeAll.
What do you think of syllogism and sinani206?
Why does your town play always consist of soft defending and asking questions?
Or is that your scum play too?[/QUOTE]
That's just the way I roll as town. I generally ask questions without revealing my opinion first so I can compare someone's thoughts to mine. If I have a town read and people are attacking them, I'll generally defend them so we can avoid a bad lynch. When I find someone I think is scum, I'll make an analysis on them. However, I'm also happy to answer any questions directed towards me. I won't hold back my opinions.
I've only played one game as scum before, but my play in it consisted of attacking lurkers and being the town leader. I also voted for inactives/lurkers so I wouldn't have to be accountable for voting someone who flipped town. My play styles are very different.[/QUOTE]
And i refreshed the thread again. Meh, i would write this off as just fluff again.
Now if we look at the total picture(after you have read ALL of it). We see someone who is softly accusing people, doesn't have much content but many words, is drawing wrong conclusions. So...
This
Guy
Is
Scum
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He did this as town in PTP Vain, just sayin'
But yes, I don't like that style at all.
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Hmm, could use some better formatting. Mind that when i wrote this, i wasn't even accused by chaos13 and decided to wait a bit longer for more information. I really think this is our best bet right now and to put my money where my mouth is i will put my vote on him until someone MAYORLY slips up in my point of view.
On June 29 2011 05:59 Palmar wrote:
He did this as town in PTP Vain, just sayin'
But yes, I don't like that style at all.
Could be but i'm not just throwing away all my conclusions just because he played like this in PTP. My conclusion was he is scum and i stick to it
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+ Show Spoiler +Notice: This post is based on the fact that I've only read up to page 15. I shall catch up after submitting this.
What the Hell town?!
All this discussion of whether vig's should kill lurker or not needs to end NOW. It was an okay topic-starter but discussion of it has gone on way too long.
The mechanic of a free KP on lurkers is designed to DISCOURAGE LURKING. Why the hell would we not use it? If that game mechanic works correctly, then this should be a lurker-free game. Enforce the no-lurking rule with death and there wont be a lurking problem.
No one is going to be lurking, so quit worrying about it.
I don't know why the hell discussion of that took up at least +3 pages. It's useless discussion that EASILY allows scum to blend in and look like their contributing, while fattening up this thread. Come on vets, one of you guys should have noticed how useless that discussion was 
Here's a few posts that I just can't ignore.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 21:06 DropBear wrote:Marshal the vote you have on AwesomeAll is pure OMGUS. Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:38 GMarshal wrote:
A pro-town atmosphere is one in which it is possible to scumhunt and read the thread without having to wade through crap. Its explained in Ver's town guide, but basically it means no mud flinging, no beating dead horses, avoiding unjustified OMGUS and generally behaving as gentlemen towards each other. If we do this we can generate and use information, it will also encourage newer posters to post. Thats the theory at least ^_^
This is a bit contradictory dude. What else about AwesomeAll makes you suspicious of him, other than that he directly disagreed with and voted for you? Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 16:25 GMarshal wrote:On June 28 2011 16:14 sandroba wrote:
OK, I'm very convinced GM is scum right now. The fact that LSB died is plain and simple. The moment he proposed his plan he was confirmed town, as no mafia would ever propose a plan like that.
The reason I think he is mafia is because
1) He ninja'ed me and identified it, and as such we know he is capable of doing it (I don't think any other player realise this yet, amongst the active)
2) He claimed to have thought of the plan, but as scum he obviously did not mention it until LSB did.
3) He's pushing vigs to shoot lurkers, when clearly mafia won't be there.
4) YM is posting completely anti-town stuff about blues. Mafia still has 2 kp left so LOL at medics not protecting people today. Also RB doesn't do shit to vigilante. The fact that GM did not catch on this can only mean 1 of the 2: YM is also scum with GM or YM is tripping hard and GM knows he's town and must maintain his position earlier of YM being town to not rise any suspicion. Either way GM is scum. Sure thing. Please post a more coherent argument. Let me reply to what you have 1.) Duh, anyone with a braincell should have known LSB was town. 2.) I thought of a *similar* plan, but I couldn't (still can't) think of a way to make use of it without having DTs claim. I am against ousting blue roles. 3.) Yes I am. I made my case why, and you should understand it. Vigis have a lurker only KP, they might as well use it, no? All lurkers are traitors, by definition. Ace said it best in my first game, I think, kill scum, and those who will not help you kill scum (not an exact quote, but I don't feel like looking it up) 4.) He admitted to fucking up with the medic thing, because he thought scum had 1 kp. If I think someone is scum I call them out on it. I just think YM is playing poorly, but not necessarily scummy. remember what we said about bad plans? Hell I missed that he made a posts about medics till you pointed it out and I had to go back and check. I don't see your case, but if you bring up any new points I will gladly answer them, so far it seems to me that you are dead set on me being mafia for some reason. I won't appeal to meta, but my alignment should be evident by now. Regarding point 3. How is using town KP to kill bored townies good?
The LSB hit has brought a few things to light: - Medics should have protected someone they think is town already by now. The really early LSB shot shows that Mafia are underway with planning already. Any delay in choosing a Medic protect is detrimental. Their shots have to be used today so get protecting sooner rather than later! - Mafia are killing lurkers too. LSB hardly posted before he was shot. I don't think we should be trying to lynch lurkers, let the detectives, mafia and vigis take care of that. - Scum don't want to be on the detective checklists so they will increase their activity. What we should be doing is looking at people who have increased their activity compared to normal, not like we normally do in finding people who try to hide more. Someone read this post and tell me if it contributes anything. Owait it doesnt? It's just very fluffy. The only part of this post that's worth reading is the very beginning where DB mentions OMGUS. Regarding what DB said about point 3. The way you word it makes it sound like we're killing innocent townies. Any and every Townie knows/should know that lurking is doing more harm then good to Town. If they don't give a rat's ass about the game then that's their damn fault. Allowing lurkers to live and not actually *play* the game is scummy behavior itself.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 28 2011 21:25 DropBear wrote:Henry VI has been setting off alarm bells for me early. He originally set me off with his first several posts all being one-liners all directed at his mate. He has easily had the most pointless contribution so far. His largest post is this: Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:Pro-Town atmosphere would ideally be: - No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum, if they are, town has already lost.
- No spamming.
As has been mentioned before, all spamming does is derail town. It makes posts hard to find and confuses people so that scum are harder to analyse and pin for what they really are.
- Active scumhunting.
Scumhunting is obviously very pro-town. It gives the town a good discussion point and helps (obviously) find mafia. No reason not to do this.
- No lurking.
Lurking is confusing for all players who aren't lurking. It makes you hard to analyse. Obviously with all the anti-lurking abilities in this game, it isn't much of an issue, but keep this in mind.
That pretty much covers it. If anyone has any additions, feel free to share. Keep all of these points in mind when posting and analyzing. Off to play some SotIS and then go to sleep. Probably won't check the thread until morning. Good night folks! This makes no sense to me at all. You are actively saying that we should kill people who try and lead the town and you also want to kill people who are lurking. Not only this, scum hunting is bona-fide town leadership! What middle ground do you want people to fill? Let's look at this again. Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:44 sinani206 wrote:
[*]No taking lead.
Being a "leader" seems really scummy to me. I just have this innate bias that leaders are mafia, and even though there is quite a slim chance of them being scum
They probably aren't scum but we should kill them anyway. Right. This post is a whole lot of nothing. FoS Henry VI. Holy cow DB, you did a GREAT job with totally twisting this man's words around. Can you pleaase point out where he said "we should kill people who try and lead the town", because I just can't seem to find it. Sinani was just making his distrust of leaders known to everyone. This is Mafia after all, you can't blame us for having trust issues. I really don't think that warrants for an FoS. The second part of this "contributing" post, DropBear quotes from the same paragraph HE JUST QUOTED.You're calling his post a "whole lot of nothing", but you're doing the Exact. Same. Thing. So much for contribution.
These are two minor things, but I noticed that as soon as DropBear brought up the Sinani/Nisani twins, Drazerk came in out of nowhere on Page 16 and hopped on the wagon. When I finish reading the remaining 7 pages (fml) I might go back and make some comments on his posting, if no one's beaten me to it.
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On June 29 2011 06:04 Vain wrote:Hmm, could use some better formatting. Mind that when i wrote this, i wasn't even accused by chaos13 and decided to wait a bit longer for more information. I really think this is our best bet right now and to put my money where my mouth is i will put my vote on him until someone MAYORLY slips up in my point of view. Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 05:59 Palmar wrote:
He did this as town in PTP Vain, just sayin'
But yes, I don't like that style at all. Could be but i'm not just throwing away all my conclusions just because he played like this in PTP. My conclusion was he is scum and i stick to it
yeah, you have all my support in going after him.
It's a scummy style of play.
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On June 29 2011 06:08 Cthsazsa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Notice: This post is based on the fact that I've only read up to page 15. I shall catch up after submitting this. What the Hell town?! All this discussion of whether vig's should kill lurker or not needs to end NOW. It was an okay topic-starter but discussion of it has gone on way too long. The mechanic of a free KP on lurkers is designed to DISCOURAGE LURKING. Why the hell would we not use it? If that game mechanic works correctly, then this should be a lurker-free game. Enforce the no-lurking rule with death and there wont be a lurking problem. No one is going to be lurking, so quit worrying about it.I don't know why the hell discussion of that took up at least +3 pages. It's useless discussion that EASILY allows scum to blend in and look like their contributing, while fattening up this thread. Come on vets, one of you guys should have noticed how useless that discussion was
um, the lurker discussion ended ages ago. You might want to catch up fully before yelling at people to stop doing something that they're no longer doing.
Also, there are in fact some lurkers. (Hi Kenpachi) We're just not talking about them. We are instead discussing who to lynch.
What do you think of syllogism?
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I'm off for a while, might not be back in the next 6 or so hours.
Also every time RoL posts in the thread I have a mini-heart attack.
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On June 29 2011 06:18 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 06:08 Cthsazsa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Notice: This post is based on the fact that I've only read up to page 15. I shall catch up after submitting this. What the Hell town?! All this discussion of whether vig's should kill lurker or not needs to end NOW. It was an okay topic-starter but discussion of it has gone on way too long. The mechanic of a free KP on lurkers is designed to DISCOURAGE LURKING. Why the hell would we not use it? If that game mechanic works correctly, then this should be a lurker-free game. Enforce the no-lurking rule with death and there wont be a lurking problem. No one is going to be lurking, so quit worrying about it.I don't know why the hell discussion of that took up at least +3 pages. It's useless discussion that EASILY allows scum to blend in and look like their contributing, while fattening up this thread. Come on vets, one of you guys should have noticed how useless that discussion was um, the lurker discussion ended ages ago. You might want to catch up fully before yelling at people to stop doing something that they're no longer doing. Also, there are in fact some lurkers. (Hi Kenpachi) We're just not talking about them. We are instead discussing who to lynch. What do you think of syllogism?
Oh, i don't know, What do you think about chaos13? Haven't you read what Sandroba wrote?
On June 29 2011 01:04 sandroba wrote:
Okay, go read syllogism big post about medics optmization and ask yourself if it makes sense for mafia to be posting that. Now go DT check drazek, because he's scum.
He made one thoughtful post and for the rest has been defending himself and hasn't posted anything full of fluff. Not a very great chance to be scum if you ask me.
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Havent followed this thread at all, will be back later tonight with a post, I hope.
I'm not mafia, though.
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EPT
