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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 18:43 GMT
#381
He only has 7 posts, but I'll only include those that successfully brought something new to the table to discuss. They are all in the spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +


That was easy. Each and every one of his posts masquerades as having content, without really including anything worthwhile. It takes no stances and interestingly enough brings up mild opposition to LSB's plan. This isn't necessarily damning, but I want hiro to start taking definite stances. I want so see which lynch he would advocate today, and what he thinks about pretty much everything. This "posting just to get by" is bad for the town, and he isn't going to get away with it.

Yes this case is not extremely solid, but the PBP I originally wrote was all "no content" and "fluff" comments, which would have made my case longer than necessary for clarity, in essence hiro needs to give us more so we can actually assess his alignment, as reading over his posts reveals nothing.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 18:46 GMT
#382
On June 29 2011 03:36 DropBear wrote:
Whoa Drazerk, where did this come from?

As far as I can tell, you never really attacked Marshal in the first place. The only thing I can find is this and it's not exactly a wild accusation.
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:
Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )


What's the deal with the big claim of changing your mind? You never really attacked him. Plus you decide GMarshal is not scum based on hiro's posts? DOES NOT COMPUTE explain plz


I second this, explanation please, what does hiro have to do with me? ^_^
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 28 2011 18:48 GMT
#383
On June 29 2011 03:18 DropBear wrote:
@MIG


Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:01 Mig wrote:
On June 29 2011 02:37 DropBear wrote:

Dude saying that sinani's a lot more active isn't a town tell at all. Noone wants to be on that lurker list. It's not activity we are looking at, it's much more about content.

Why do you disagree with GM being Mafia? What do you mean by pro-town? Who are these better targets for day 1 you speak of?


Sinani has been useless every game he has played why is he more useless/scummy this game? Look at his first game as mafia he attempted to fake contribute heavily to stay under the radar. I haven't really seen him do any of that.

The better targets day 1 I think are guys like Jackal who aren't contributing and are playing out of character or someone like Eiii who promises to be pro town and contribute his thoughts then goes right back to lurking without actually providing any content.

On June 29 2011 02:31 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

So just because he is active as he was when he played town, he must be town now as well? In that case Jackal is townie, since he led a foolish day 1 lynch in the game i played with him as well.
+ Show Spoiler +
Metagaming is all good but focus on my arguments please, he got SUPER defensive when i accused Hiro, auto voted for me, went from super aggressive to backing up in 2 posts flat, made his voice worthless by saying he was looking for my 'tic'. What do you think about that?


No no active definitely does not just equal town, but I mean in general I would prefer to lynch someone less active day 1 because as long as GM is alive he is going to be active and so we are going to have a ton of information to use to determine whether he is town or mafia.

Hm I do agree though that GM's case against you is incredibly weak. But I will wait to see how he follows up on it before instantly declaring him scum for it.

I will say that If GM continues with just posting pro town advice and not any actual good analysis and scum hunting I would be willing to change my opinion about him.


First on sinani, you say he has a history about fake contributing as a mafia to blend in. Where are his real contributions this game that distinguish him from this game you mentioned?

Jackal has made a grand total of ONE post so far. How can you possibly make a behaviour call based on a single post? It's way too early to do that. You scare me Mr Mig!



aprudds please reconsider your vote on TAA. He is being very overenthusiastic yes but there's very low chance he's mafia. He's prodding everyone he thinks is dodgy and is going out of his way to generate discussion.


On the contrary DropBear, I don't find him overenthusiastic at all. I really like TAA's playstyle and I think he's doing more to help us than anyone else at the moment.

So GM and TAA agree on Hiro Protagonist. What I can tell you about Hiro's meta is that he's usually quite reserved, both as scum and as town. His borderline spam post style in this game is a new thing for me, but it could both be an attempt at improving his town game, or it could be him trying to distance himself from the quiet playstyle he's displayed as mafia.

All in all, I kind of like the vote on him.

Sinani206 will you please make some kind of a contribution? Can you point us in the direction of a scummy player?
Computer says mafia
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 28 2011 18:49 GMT
#384
On June 29 2011 03:46 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:36 DropBear wrote:
Whoa Drazerk, where did this come from?

As far as I can tell, you never really attacked Marshal in the first place. The only thing I can find is this and it's not exactly a wild accusation.
On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:
Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )


What's the deal with the big claim of changing your mind? You never really attacked him. Plus you decide GMarshal is not scum based on hiro's posts? DOES NOT COMPUTE explain plz


I second this, explanation please, what does hiro have to do with me? ^_^


Nothing I was just commenting on what TAA asked me to do - Form an opinion on Hiro in doing so I formed an opinion on you but not him as he has actually posted nothing.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 18:51 GMT
#385
On June 29 2011 03:49 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:46 GMarshal wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:36 DropBear wrote:
Whoa Drazerk, where did this come from?

As far as I can tell, you never really attacked Marshal in the first place. The only thing I can find is this and it's not exactly a wild accusation.
On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:
Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )


What's the deal with the big claim of changing your mind? You never really attacked him. Plus you decide GMarshal is not scum based on hiro's posts? DOES NOT COMPUTE explain plz


I second this, explanation please, what does hiro have to do with me? ^_^


Nothing I was just commenting on what TAA asked me to do - Form an opinion on Hiro in doing so I formed an opinion on you but not him as he has actually posted nothing.

Oh, I misunderstood that point then.

Did you form an opinion on hiro though?

If so what is it?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 28 2011 18:54 GMT
#386
On June 29 2011 03:51 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:46 GMarshal wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:36 DropBear wrote:
Whoa Drazerk, where did this come from?

As far as I can tell, you never really attacked Marshal in the first place. The only thing I can find is this and it's not exactly a wild accusation.
On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:
Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )


What's the deal with the big claim of changing your mind? You never really attacked him. Plus you decide GMarshal is not scum based on hiro's posts? DOES NOT COMPUTE explain plz


I second this, explanation please, what does hiro have to do with me? ^_^


Nothing I was just commenting on what TAA asked me to do - Form an opinion on Hiro in doing so I formed an opinion on you but not him as he has actually posted nothing.

Oh, I misunderstood that point then.

Did you form an opinion on hiro though?

If so what is it?


Not really I admit he's playing pretty scummy but I am not sure if that is his play style or not as I've not seen other games with him.

He's one to keep an eye out on though and we should try and pressure him out of hiding.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 28 2011 18:55 GMT
#387
sorry im at my friend's house. I'll go read the thread once i get home.

BTW, im Kenpachi and Im a Townie.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
June 28 2011 18:56 GMT
#388
He read the Hiro posts but got inspired and in a wave of passion he continued to read GMs posts falling in love instantly. It didnt really have anything to do with Hiro's posts -.-
lets take a look
On June 29 2011 03:36 DropBear wrote:
Whoa Drazerk, where did this come from?

As far as I can tell, you never really attacked Marshal in the first place. The only thing I can find is this and it's not exactly a wild accusation.
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:
Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )


What's the deal with the big claim of changing your mind? You never really attacked him. Plus you decide GMarshal is not scum based on hiro's posts? DOES NOT COMPUTE explain plz

Well... I posted the reasons why i believe hes scum just a little lower.

And yes he is contradicting himself in that analysis, including praising GM for pointing out fatal mistakes of 201, and he didnt attack 201. He warned him being the good leader of the town he his, he helped 201 being a better Mafia player.
His next major post is pointing out a fatal mistake of 201

On June 28 2011 13:27 GMarshal wrote:
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This is the kind of stuff you REFRAIN from posting. If you think someone is soft claiming medic or DT or accidentally let slip their role then you DO NOT point it out.

The mafia might miss it, so its best if you don't call attention to it. By pointing it out you just painted a huge target on chaos13's back if he is town.


Why would he attack 201 about this if he was mafia? He would of just PM'd all of his mafia buddies and then worked on getting Chaos lynched / Killed


He then made a list, and a post about pro town atmosphere. Drazerk doesnt seem to get that while all of this SEEMS protown doesnt mean it IS protown. While his later game actions might have been more protown, the quotes Draz used are definitely not.

Maybe someone should read the analysis i posted?
its pretty good,
+ Show Spoiler +
turns out Drazerk is scum all along
dr Helvetica <3
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#389
On June 29 2011 03:54 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:51 GMarshal wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:49 Drazerk wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:46 GMarshal wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:36 DropBear wrote:
Whoa Drazerk, where did this come from?

As far as I can tell, you never really attacked Marshal in the first place. The only thing I can find is this and it's not exactly a wild accusation.
On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote:
Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive )


What's the deal with the big claim of changing your mind? You never really attacked him. Plus you decide GMarshal is not scum based on hiro's posts? DOES NOT COMPUTE explain plz


I second this, explanation please, what does hiro have to do with me? ^_^


Nothing I was just commenting on what TAA asked me to do - Form an opinion on Hiro in doing so I formed an opinion on you but not him as he has actually posted nothing.

Oh, I misunderstood that point then.

Did you form an opinion on hiro though?

If so what is it?


Not really I admit he's playing pretty scummy but I am not sure if that is his play style or not as I've not seen other games with him.

He's one to keep an eye out on though and we should try and pressure him out of hiding.

You should vote for him then. Nothing gets someone's attention like a nice noose drawing taut around the neck.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
June 28 2011 18:58 GMT
#390
On June 29 2011 03:48 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:18 DropBear wrote:
@MIG


On June 29 2011 03:01 Mig wrote:
On June 29 2011 02:37 DropBear wrote:

Dude saying that sinani's a lot more active isn't a town tell at all. Noone wants to be on that lurker list. It's not activity we are looking at, it's much more about content.

Why do you disagree with GM being Mafia? What do you mean by pro-town? Who are these better targets for day 1 you speak of?


Sinani has been useless every game he has played why is he more useless/scummy this game? Look at his first game as mafia he attempted to fake contribute heavily to stay under the radar. I haven't really seen him do any of that.

The better targets day 1 I think are guys like Jackal who aren't contributing and are playing out of character or someone like Eiii who promises to be pro town and contribute his thoughts then goes right back to lurking without actually providing any content.

On June 29 2011 02:31 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

So just because he is active as he was when he played town, he must be town now as well? In that case Jackal is townie, since he led a foolish day 1 lynch in the game i played with him as well.
+ Show Spoiler +
Metagaming is all good but focus on my arguments please, he got SUPER defensive when i accused Hiro, auto voted for me, went from super aggressive to backing up in 2 posts flat, made his voice worthless by saying he was looking for my 'tic'. What do you think about that?


No no active definitely does not just equal town, but I mean in general I would prefer to lynch someone less active day 1 because as long as GM is alive he is going to be active and so we are going to have a ton of information to use to determine whether he is town or mafia.

Hm I do agree though that GM's case against you is incredibly weak. But I will wait to see how he follows up on it before instantly declaring him scum for it.

I will say that If GM continues with just posting pro town advice and not any actual good analysis and scum hunting I would be willing to change my opinion about him.


First on sinani, you say he has a history about fake contributing as a mafia to blend in. Where are his real contributions this game that distinguish him from this game you mentioned?

Jackal has made a grand total of ONE post so far. How can you possibly make a behaviour call based on a single post? It's way too early to do that. You scare me Mr Mig!



aprudds please reconsider your vote on TAA. He is being very overenthusiastic yes but there's very low chance he's mafia. He's prodding everyone he thinks is dodgy and is going out of his way to generate discussion.


On the contrary DropBear, I don't find him overenthusiastic at all. I really like TAA's playstyle and I think he's doing more to help us than anyone else at the moment.

So GM and TAA agree on Hiro Protagonist. What I can tell you about Hiro's meta is that he's usually quite reserved, both as scum and as town. His borderline spam post style in this game is a new thing for me, but it could both be an attempt at improving his town game, or it could be him trying to distance himself from the quiet playstyle he's displayed as mafia.

All in all, I kind of like the vote on him.

Sinani206 will you please make some kind of a contribution? Can you point us in the direction of a scummy player?

???????? Dude. Hiro's been reserved as both scum and town in the past, but he's distancing himself from his quiet playstyle of mafia? Isn't that distancing himself from his town play as well? How can you tell the difference?

Marshal you are attacking him DESPITE THE FACT HIS VERY FIRST POST WAS TO CARBON COPY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

Hiro hasn't shown me anything dodgy yet at all.
Sucker for nostalgia
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 28 2011 19:03 GMT
#391
On June 29 2011 03:58 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:48 Palmar wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:18 DropBear wrote:
@MIG


On June 29 2011 03:01 Mig wrote:
On June 29 2011 02:37 DropBear wrote:

Dude saying that sinani's a lot more active isn't a town tell at all. Noone wants to be on that lurker list. It's not activity we are looking at, it's much more about content.

Why do you disagree with GM being Mafia? What do you mean by pro-town? Who are these better targets for day 1 you speak of?


Sinani has been useless every game he has played why is he more useless/scummy this game? Look at his first game as mafia he attempted to fake contribute heavily to stay under the radar. I haven't really seen him do any of that.

The better targets day 1 I think are guys like Jackal who aren't contributing and are playing out of character or someone like Eiii who promises to be pro town and contribute his thoughts then goes right back to lurking without actually providing any content.

On June 29 2011 02:31 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

So just because he is active as he was when he played town, he must be town now as well? In that case Jackal is townie, since he led a foolish day 1 lynch in the game i played with him as well.
+ Show Spoiler +
Metagaming is all good but focus on my arguments please, he got SUPER defensive when i accused Hiro, auto voted for me, went from super aggressive to backing up in 2 posts flat, made his voice worthless by saying he was looking for my 'tic'. What do you think about that?


No no active definitely does not just equal town, but I mean in general I would prefer to lynch someone less active day 1 because as long as GM is alive he is going to be active and so we are going to have a ton of information to use to determine whether he is town or mafia.

Hm I do agree though that GM's case against you is incredibly weak. But I will wait to see how he follows up on it before instantly declaring him scum for it.

I will say that If GM continues with just posting pro town advice and not any actual good analysis and scum hunting I would be willing to change my opinion about him.


First on sinani, you say he has a history about fake contributing as a mafia to blend in. Where are his real contributions this game that distinguish him from this game you mentioned?

Jackal has made a grand total of ONE post so far. How can you possibly make a behaviour call based on a single post? It's way too early to do that. You scare me Mr Mig!



aprudds please reconsider your vote on TAA. He is being very overenthusiastic yes but there's very low chance he's mafia. He's prodding everyone he thinks is dodgy and is going out of his way to generate discussion.


On the contrary DropBear, I don't find him overenthusiastic at all. I really like TAA's playstyle and I think he's doing more to help us than anyone else at the moment.

So GM and TAA agree on Hiro Protagonist. What I can tell you about Hiro's meta is that he's usually quite reserved, both as scum and as town. His borderline spam post style in this game is a new thing for me, but it could both be an attempt at improving his town game, or it could be him trying to distance himself from the quiet playstyle he's displayed as mafia.

All in all, I kind of like the vote on him.

Sinani206 will you please make some kind of a contribution? Can you point us in the direction of a scummy player?

???????? Dude. Hiro's been reserved as both scum and town in the past, but he's distancing himself from his quiet playstyle of mafia? Isn't that distancing himself from his town play as well? How can you tell the difference?

Marshal you are attacking him DESPITE THE FACT HIS VERY FIRST POST WAS TO CARBON COPY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

Hiro hasn't shown me anything dodgy yet at all.

Its not *that* he agreed, but how he went about agreeing with me. "I 100% agree" adds nothing new to the discussion, while he could have made new points or explained his reasoning. That is what bothers me, not the agreement. Its really easy to say "I agree", harder to actually contribute arguments. My beef with him isn't what he has said, its what he *hasn't* said, which is anything that is new or controversial. Honestly I'm not sure of his alignment, but I want to be which is why I'm voting for him, to encourage him to make a case on someone else, or a contribution, anything I can use to figure him out really.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 28 2011 19:04 GMT
#392
On June 29 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
sorry im at my friend's house. I'll go read the thread once i get home.

BTW, im Kenpachi and Im a Townie.


Hi, will you contribute and try to help this game, or just watch the town fail and then ragequit?
Computer says mafia
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 28 2011 19:11 GMT
#393
Ok Im going to flush out the hiding Hiro for now - He's not got any case against him and we need him to speak up more

But don't worry 206 I will not forget about you
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
June 28 2011 19:12 GMT
#394
All right, so sorry I've been away since last night. Today has been busier than expected.
The LSB kill doesn't entirely make sense to me, but I suppose yes, he was kind of obviously town.

On June 28 2011 18:06 gtrsrs wrote:
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On June 28 2011 11:54 GMarshal wrote:
gtrsrs. Hi. Pull shit like you did in SNMMIV, where you essentially sabotaged the town by creating a horrible day 1 atmosphere and I will absolutely *relish* your death. I don't want to kill you, but if you threaten this towns chances at victory I will.


lol
okay tough guy

anyways jesus christ i was out moving furniture at my g/f's house all day and there's like 16 pages to read. def not gonna even attempt until tomorrow morning/afternoon. i might already even be dead! :x

Someone feels hostile and I don't much care for this attitude. Why would he say he might already be dead? Logically, this doesn't make sense to me.

Everyone feels so strongly about GM. I think he's town. He has acted very much in the way he did the last game I played with him. In that game, I knew he was town.

Again, I don't really think it is all that likely and is mostly WIFOM that everyone on the lurker list will be town. Sure, if you get a mafia result, it may be miller, but, it still very well could be scum.

On June 28 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:
Hey I have an idea. Let's drop the lurker discussion. RoL in his divine infinite wisdom put mechanics into the game that allow blues to specifically deal with the issue. It would seem to me any further discussion of the issue is an attempt by scum to lure out our dt's and vigis. It serves no other purpose at this point. Would seem to me that's what got LSB shot. Scum took a chance on him being a DT.

Sinani206- Wtf dude? Leaders are scum? You prefer town to be all about flailing arms and pissing contests? Aimless drifting and lynch votes easily influenced by your scumbuddies? Seriously man that's the scummiest assertion so far in this game.


##Vote:Sinani206



It feels very weird to agree with Jackal, but here I do. Leaders tend to be good for town, in my experience, especially with a lot of newer players around. I don't see taking the lead scummy and it does bother me that people don't like that.


On June 29 2011 00:21 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
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On June 29 2011 00:09 youngminii wrote:
i like the way you think theawesomeall

don't worry about palmar though, he's always like this
i can only think of gmarshal as the best dt candidate for now

okay i'm gonna head off now i'll be back when i wake up

if GM is scum, he is GF. Please dont check him.

Why would scum make their GF the most obvious GF choice? If he is scum, which I doubt, I think he's anything else. But I really think he's town. But DTs should do what they think is best.

The amount of jumping about is astounding.

On June 29 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
sorry im at my friend's house. I'll go read the thread once i get home.

BTW, im Kenpachi and Im a Townie.

What the hell Kenpachi? Why... WHY did you say that? I feel this probably wasn't in your best interests, sorry bud. However, you're actually town, so...


<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
June 28 2011 19:13 GMT
#395
On June 29 2011 04:03 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 03:58 DropBear wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:48 Palmar wrote:
On June 29 2011 03:18 DropBear wrote:
@MIG


On June 29 2011 03:01 Mig wrote:
On June 29 2011 02:37 DropBear wrote:

Dude saying that sinani's a lot more active isn't a town tell at all. Noone wants to be on that lurker list. It's not activity we are looking at, it's much more about content.

Why do you disagree with GM being Mafia? What do you mean by pro-town? Who are these better targets for day 1 you speak of?


Sinani has been useless every game he has played why is he more useless/scummy this game? Look at his first game as mafia he attempted to fake contribute heavily to stay under the radar. I haven't really seen him do any of that.

The better targets day 1 I think are guys like Jackal who aren't contributing and are playing out of character or someone like Eiii who promises to be pro town and contribute his thoughts then goes right back to lurking without actually providing any content.

On June 29 2011 02:31 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

So just because he is active as he was when he played town, he must be town now as well? In that case Jackal is townie, since he led a foolish day 1 lynch in the game i played with him as well.
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Metagaming is all good but focus on my arguments please, he got SUPER defensive when i accused Hiro, auto voted for me, went from super aggressive to backing up in 2 posts flat, made his voice worthless by saying he was looking for my 'tic'. What do you think about that?


No no active definitely does not just equal town, but I mean in general I would prefer to lynch someone less active day 1 because as long as GM is alive he is going to be active and so we are going to have a ton of information to use to determine whether he is town or mafia.

Hm I do agree though that GM's case against you is incredibly weak. But I will wait to see how he follows up on it before instantly declaring him scum for it.

I will say that If GM continues with just posting pro town advice and not any actual good analysis and scum hunting I would be willing to change my opinion about him.


First on sinani, you say he has a history about fake contributing as a mafia to blend in. Where are his real contributions this game that distinguish him from this game you mentioned?

Jackal has made a grand total of ONE post so far. How can you possibly make a behaviour call based on a single post? It's way too early to do that. You scare me Mr Mig!



aprudds please reconsider your vote on TAA. He is being very overenthusiastic yes but there's very low chance he's mafia. He's prodding everyone he thinks is dodgy and is going out of his way to generate discussion.


On the contrary DropBear, I don't find him overenthusiastic at all. I really like TAA's playstyle and I think he's doing more to help us than anyone else at the moment.

So GM and TAA agree on Hiro Protagonist. What I can tell you about Hiro's meta is that he's usually quite reserved, both as scum and as town. His borderline spam post style in this game is a new thing for me, but it could both be an attempt at improving his town game, or it could be him trying to distance himself from the quiet playstyle he's displayed as mafia.

All in all, I kind of like the vote on him.

Sinani206 will you please make some kind of a contribution? Can you point us in the direction of a scummy player?

???????? Dude. Hiro's been reserved as both scum and town in the past, but he's distancing himself from his quiet playstyle of mafia? Isn't that distancing himself from his town play as well? How can you tell the difference?

Marshal you are attacking him DESPITE THE FACT HIS VERY FIRST POST WAS TO CARBON COPY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

Hiro hasn't shown me anything dodgy yet at all.

Its not *that* he agreed, but how he went about agreeing with me. "I 100% agree" adds nothing new to the discussion, while he could have made new points or explained his reasoning. That is what bothers me, not the agreement. Its really easy to say "I agree", harder to actually contribute arguments. My beef with him isn't what he has said, its what he *hasn't* said, which is anything that is new or controversial. Honestly I'm not sure of his alignment, but I want to be which is why I'm voting for him, to encourage him to make a case on someone else, or a contribution, anything I can use to figure him out really.

You say stuff and he agrees with you. Isn't the whole point of this game to try and get people convinced... if you vote to lynch everyone who agrees with you then you are gonna start getting ignored pretty fast dude

He did go on and expand anyway.

On June 28 2011 12:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sup town!

I am 100% behind Gmarshal about lurkers/trolls. that is all I have to say about that.

so everyone, lets get into it: towns lurker KP should be used once any lurker list is up. As such, I doubt very much that we will need to do a policy lynch on lurkers (which is something I almost always advocate).

Conversely: mafia, with the lurker mod on, will try and be spammy. Vigs, please,please,PLEASE, just shoot anyone that is cluttering up the thread with nonsense.

Kill people as soon as a list comes up plus vig hit anyone who is being active. You want new and controversial, you got new and controversial.

I think you and sinani are on a scum team together. As soon as hiro comes up as an alternative, which was brought up by TAA, you're jumping on.


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Canada1142 Posts
June 28 2011 19:18 GMT
#396
When is the deadline for lynch? I seem to have missed that and/or it just says TIME in the OP.
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GMarshal
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June 28 2011 19:20 GMT
#397
On June 29 2011 04:13 DropBear wrote:

TOWN READS

youngminii
TheAwesomeAll
syllogism

SCUM READS
sinani206
GMarshal
Mig


1.) I am NOT advocating lynching Hiro, just pressuring him. Please don't misrepresent me.
2.) DON'T POST GREEN READS. It only makes them mafia targets and helps us not at all
3.) Please limit your scum list to two people in the interest of concentrating your (and our) focus
4.) 'm not derailing your sinani206 lynch, the case against him ("I don't like leaders") seems to be extremely weak, and it does *not* merit a lynch. If you had a decent case, then you could argue about me derailing your wagon, but I fail to see what distinguishes sinani206 from his clone and a bunch of other posters.


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USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 19:24:52
June 28 2011 19:24 GMT
#398
On June 29 2011 04:18 Lanaia wrote:
When is the deadline for lynch? I seem to have missed that and/or it just says TIME in the OP.

12AM EST tomorrow.

Now in my attempt to use the time command 12pm EST =
05:00 GMT (+00:00)
The above should be converted to everyone's timezones.

This leaves roughly 33 hours left until the lynch.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 28 2011 19:36 GMT
#399
On June 29 2011 04:20 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 04:13 DropBear wrote:

TOWN READS

youngminii
TheAwesomeAll
syllogism

SCUM READS
sinani206
GMarshal
Mig


1.) I am NOT advocating lynching Hiro, just pressuring him. Please don't misrepresent me.
2.) DON'T POST GREEN READS. It only makes them mafia targets and helps us not at all
3.) Please limit your scum list to two people in the interest of concentrating your (and our) focus
4.) 'm not derailing your sinani206 lynch, the case against him ("I don't like leaders") seems to be extremely weak, and it does *not* merit a lynch. If you had a decent case, then you could argue about me derailing your wagon, but I fail to see what distinguishes sinani206 from his clone and a bunch of other posters.




Dropbear always does this shit.

He was mafia in PTP and I think he posted like 4 analysis in day one.

That just doesn't make sense.
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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
June 28 2011 19:43 GMT
#400
The case against sinani206 is so weak i tend to believe mafia intervened. DropBear started it, Drazerk jumped on it waiting to vote untill Pralam did and after that Jackal joined.
The main thing that still makes my case against GM strong is this:
Why would the mafia all of the sudden start a random bandwagon?
The discussion at that point was about 2 things.
Lurkers(sigh) and wether or not GM was red.
Unless the information getting posted about lurkers was Super Awesome i dont think the mafia would stick their neck out for that. Therefore if either GM or Drazerk flips red, the other one is red as well.
Thats why i have been begging to the blues to poke them.

If however it turns out they arent im clueless, Sinani wouldnt make sense, YM seems to not contribute to much, syllo maybe, aprudd hasnt really posted, but thats all guessing. So far GM-Drazerk have looked most scummy to me.

I kinda feel bad for GM his defense relies on Drazerk
On June 29 2011 01:35 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 29 2011 01:28 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote:
On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:

a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.

It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.

But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing.


Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game )

Do you really think they are both scum? seems a bit unlikely doesnt it?


From my experience the more unlikely something is the more likely it is to happen ... if that makes any sense at all


Why not have both of them as mafia would be pretty easy to hide as "RL friends"
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