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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Sorry if that was explained but I don't see it. He voted. What am I missing? | ||
LSB
United States5171 Posts
On June 29 2011 23:46 Caller wrote: they're all useless and say nothing. Show us why you don't think they're useless. You're avoiding the question. All you did was take my posts and collectively say their useless to try to build some kind of 'contribution' cause people have been on your back for trolling. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
I presume his role required him to do something or submit something he failed to do. | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On June 30 2011 01:31 LSB wrote: You're avoiding the question. All you did was take my posts and collectively say their useless to try to build some kind of 'contribution' cause people have been on your back for trolling. you have no question. It's very obvious why they are useless. Your job is to explain to the town why you think the rest of your posts have any merit at all when they are just euphemism for HMM DE HMM. also seeing as how nobody is ccing my claim I think we can conclude that I a) killed GMarshal with my one bullet b) am a Vigilante | ||
LSB
United States5171 Posts
On June 30 2011 01:34 Caller wrote: you have no question. It's very obvious why they are useless. Your job is to explain to the town why you think the rest of your posts have any merit at all when they are just euphemism for HMM DE HMM. also seeing as how nobody is ccing my claim I think we can conclude that I a) killed GMarshal with my one bullet b) am a Vigilante I haven't ruled out the possibility that you are the SK, or if the Mafia has access to a one time second KP. | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On June 30 2011 01:39 LSB wrote: I haven't ruled out the possibility that you are the SK, or if the Mafia has access to a one time second KP. a) Nice to know that you know there's an SK. Have something to share? b) you're wifoming out of your ass here. by that argument it turns out im actually an insane dt that was bussed onto a dead guy. Also you didn't answer my question. c) I would shoot you now if I could. I really, really want to. But ruining GMarshal's day takes priority. | ||
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
1) You trolled most day 1, called people scum for no reason and called deconduo and viscera obvtown for no reason either. Yet you failed to push the people you deemed scum with analysis, you just wanted town to not lynch. 2) Decon got modkilled, he claimed vig. Now you claim vig. Nice. 3) You claim to have shot GM, for no reason either, just because. Really? Why in hell would you shoot GM, if even you did not think he's scum? Also Mafia shot fucking GGQ? I went to his posts and fail to see why in hell mafia would shoot him. My theory is that decon shot him and now that he's dead you are claiming to have shot GGQ with no one to counter claim your bullshit. You are spreading doubt like there's no tomorrow and fucking up this thread. You are scum. So is VisceraEyes. | ||
LSB
United States5171 Posts
On June 29 2011 22:31 Caller wrote: This is me putting pressure on deconduo, since I don't believe his vig claim and I was pointing out the inconsistencies. This "one liner" says I lot, but I don't need to make a bulleted point list to pretend I'm saying more than one thing. Now answer my question, you have only brought up one instance that I agreed was a bit of spam, what about the other 13 posts? In fact, you have completely ignored the point and tried to distract people from it. On June 30 2011 01:43 Caller wrote: a) Nice to know that you know there's an SK. Have something to share? b) you're wifoming out of your ass here. by that argument it turns out im actually an insane dt that was bussed onto a dead guy. Also you didn't answer my question. c) I would shoot you now if I could. I really, really want to. But ruining GMarshal's day takes priority. The fact boils down to this. There is no way to know if you are pro-town or ainti town and therefore I am not putting you in the green box just because 2 people died night one. | ||
sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Okay guess what. Look at this shit. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
That was just Kurumi being Kurumi right? Somehow thinking that because of GCQ's history of being mafia that he'd be one again, I think he explained that like two posts down. By the way, I totally dig Caller's case on ilovejonn. But I hate the fact that he roleclaimed. So I'm kind of torn on where to take this at the moment. ilovejonn is definitely one of the best targets if someone i feeling triggerhappy. | ||
Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
I didn't even see that deconduo was mod killed when I made a post this morning. Now I'm very interested why. | ||
ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
On June 29 2011 22:08 Caller wrote: Aite here goes nothing I’m vigilante, I used my one bullet to shoot GMarshal on Night 1. Why? Because I’m a prick. I also sodomized GGQ, but that was mafia killing him. Anyways here’s how its going down; Ilovejonn is scummy as shit because like Radfield mentioned Ilovejonn is more neutral than his neutralness Neutral Minister of Switzerland. He only goes after obvious trolls like me and Kurumi, while just mumbling about how “oh we gotta help the town and save the children.” So here’s a post by post debunking of his posts. ~says nothing while still “contributes” ~see above He does three scummy things here. Firstly, his defense isn’t “I’m not scummy because your logic sucks” or “Why lynch me when we can lynch xyz” but instead “Everybody but me is a better lynch.” Secondly, he says “look at all these people that aren’t acting according to town policy, we should kill them.” Who gives a fuck about town policy. Mafia are the ones that would tend NOT to break town policy openly like me and Kurumi are, because they don’t want to attract attention. On the other hand, I simply don’t give a fuck, and do what I want. If anything (and this is the third point), your “we should lynch inactives and unverifiable roleclaims” is a staple “I don’t want to attract attention please focus on someone so I can sheep along accordingly” tactic. Anyways the only thing that’s preventing me from flat out shooting him tonight (well, aside from my lack of bullets) is the fact that he clearly hasn’t been paying attention to the thread. As a mafia, I know that I always double read my posts to make sure I didn’t make a slipup or a mistake. The fact that Ilovejonn has made several fuckups involving peoples’ names leads me to believe two things: a) He’s a townie because his mafia buddies would’ve kept him updated, or he would’ve at least double checked. b) He doesn’t give a shit about what’s posted in the thread as long as he doesn’t get killed. Which is scummy. Gentlemen, I leave the rest to you. Coming up next is why I voted LSB, why deconduo was legit, why Kurumi probably isn’t scummy, and why BC should be killed day 2 if he doesn’t do a certain something. All this and much much more in the 10 O Clock News. Sad, if the only thing you've got is that I'm posting "neutral" and only going after obvious trolls. Go read my post on why I voted deconduo. Btw if you've been posting like you've been posting before all these things I would've still went after you. How on earth are we supposed to determine one's alignment if all they post is trash? It's like Kenpachi all over again. He does three scummy things here. Firstly, his defense isn’t “I’m not scummy because your logic sucks” or “Why lynch me when we can lynch xyz” but instead “Everybody but me is a better lynch.” Secondly, he says “look at all these people that aren’t acting according to town policy, we should kill them.” Who gives a fuck about town policy. Mafia are the ones that would tend NOT to break town policy openly like me and Kurumi are, because they don’t want to attract attention. On the other hand, I simply don’t give a fuck, and do what I want. If anything (and this is the third point), your “we should lynch inactives and unverifiable roleclaims” is a staple “I don’t want to attract attention please focus on someone so I can sheep along accordingly” tactic. I find this to be quite hilarious. My "defense" didn't consist of whatever you said because a) there was no logic behind people making 1 liners calling and agreeing that I'm scum (you're the first here), therefore I would not have been doing “I’m not scummy because your logic sucks” and b) “Why lynch me when we can lynch xyz” is exactly what I did. Selective quoting much? Have you read all my posts? I mean hell, even in the post that you've quoted at the end I said that we should lynch you/Kurumi and deconduo. How is that not providing an alternative to lynching me? c) If you want to interpret me saying "I'd love to see how I'm the strongest case for a Day 1 lynch" as "Everybody but me is a better lynch" then you're wrong. I've always said that we should be having 2 targets max and I stuck with one of mine the whole day. By your 2nd and 3rd points. Not giving a flying fuck and your general attitude although not making you scum, isn't really pro-town either. If townie were to be like this because it shows how they are attracting attention to themselves therefore they're not mafia, then we'd probably have a no-lynch every Day. Is that what you want? It is exactly these kind of people besides scum that we need to get rid of in order for the town to have a clear focus, all townies should have to be on the same page in this no-flip game or we won't be able to accomplish anything (like Day 1). On the matter of not noticing the replacements, make of it whatever you guys will, I ain't going to make any excuse for it besides the fact that I indeed made a mistake. On a side note, if you're saying that I'm playing "safe" or "neutral", I remember Radfield saying he'd push for me after work. Then he gets off work and goes "oh dear, no one did the work for me to push for ilj while I was gone? oh well I'll just hold off til tmr to post more about him." He also said that I was marginally a better lynch target because I'm scummier than both decon/Vis, yet he "didn't want to provide more targets to the fray." THAT imo is playing safe. If you've got time to post at work, truly believe that I'm a scummy target, you would have had the balls to convince town to switch their votes to me. I'm sure with so many lone votes that people would've been willing to switch over if you did so. But why didn't he do it? He's afraid. He's afraid that people won't switch, and he's afraid people will tell him off that what he just did was to cause more confusion to town by adding more lynch targets. Also, he has been spreading fog everywhere and making me seem like the bad guy out of everything. Notice how all he's been doing is agreeing with people that I'm scum, yet wants other people to do all the work for him? Caller helped, and now Palmar has been calling me scum without saying anything besides that. And then he told people to mull over my posts and see how neutral they are, and potentially come up with their own conclusions. Radfield was leaning townie from the beginning, but now he's just more and more scummy in my eyes. | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On June 30 2011 02:17 sandroba wrote: Caller, pardon me for being skeptic but I don't buy your claim at all. Let's look through the facts shall we: 1) You trolled most day 1, called people scum for no reason and called deconduo and viscera obvtown for no reason either. Yet you failed to push the people you deemed scum with analysis, you just wanted town to not lynch. 2) Decon got modkilled, he claimed vig. Now you claim vig. Nice. 3) You claim to have shot GM, for no reason either, just because. Really? Why in hell would you shoot GM, if even you did not think he's scum? Also Mafia shot fucking GGQ? I went to his posts and fail to see why in hell mafia would shoot him. My theory is that decon shot him and now that he's dead you are claiming to have shot GGQ with no one to counter claim your bullshit. You are spreading doubt like there's no tomorrow and fucking up this thread. You are scum. So is VisceraEyes. 1. lol, as if I give a fuck about being lynched. And I wanted town to lynch. I just wanted them to lynch obvious active lurking LSB whom has suddenly exploded with activity as soon as I provoked him, not obvious townie Kurumi and herp derp inactivity Viscera whateverhisnameis. I also did it to provoke people. 2. ironically, its because of the modkill that I can't explain my reasoning for this. 3. i) IS THAT A SCUMSLIP I SEE? My theory is that decon shot him and now that he's dead you are claiming to have shot GGQ with no one to counter claim your bullshit. I'm claiming to (and did, thank you very much) have shot GMarshal. You still think I shot GGQ. Why? Was it because I claimed to have sodomized him? Then why do or did you not jump on that remark? I think I know the reason. It's because you shot GGQ. Combined with your sucking up to GM before I proceeded to shoot him in the face, combined with your not asking questions on why GMarshal died, I think you just went from "possibly stupid townie" to "herp derp mafia." Especially when this is your response otherwise: On June 28 2011 05:30 sandroba wrote: @Caller What made you suspicious of GGQ in the first place? I see some people explaining how GGQ was a good vig hit, but you haven't done so yourself. Why did you hit him? ii) If it wasn't mafia it sure as fuck wasn't me. sandroba, in case you didn't notice, decon had, just like me, one bullet. And he still had it. And he didn't claim that he shot GGQ. Why would I claim I shot of all people fucking GMarshal? Besides, why the fuck would I claim vigilante if I was mafia? Of all the damn roles in the game to claim, especially in a CLOSED setup, where I could easily say "oh I was veteran I took a hit last night" just to throw the town into even MORE confusion, seeing a potential 3 night hits, why would I claim vigilante? No, as you said, it's far easier to defend your fellow mafia. On June 25 2011 19:04 sandroba wrote: I've thought a lot about this and came to the conclusion that mafia's optimal strat is going to be defending their team without fear, since no flips mean they keep hidden even after a scum lynch. p.s. i read the rest of that post, and it don't matter. | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On June 30 2011 03:36 ilovejonn wrote: Sad, if the only thing you've got is that I'm posting "neutral" and only going after obvious trolls. Go read my post on why I voted deconduo. Btw if you've been posting like you've been posting before all these things I would've still went after you. How on earth are we supposed to determine one's alignment if all they post is trash? It's like Kenpachi all over again. Ironically, posting neutral and only going after obvious trolls is a very "safe" strategy, one that players do when they don't want to risk their lives to get mafia. You know, players like... scum. I find this to be quite hilarious. My "defense" didn't consist of whatever you said because a) there was no logic behind people making 1 liners calling and agreeing that I'm scum (you're the first here), therefore I would not have been doing “I’m not scummy because your logic sucks” and b) “Why lynch me when we can lynch xyz” is exactly what I did. Selective quoting much? Have you read all my posts? I mean hell, even in the post that you've quoted at the end I said that we should lynch you/Kurumi and deconduo. How is that not providing an alternative to lynching me? c) If you want to interpret me saying "I'd love to see how I'm the strongest case for a Day 1 lynch" as "Everybody but me is a better lynch" then you're wrong. I've always said that we should be having 2 targets max and I stuck with one of mine the whole day. Brah, you basically said "I don't care who among Caller/Kurumi/Deconduo we should lynch as long as its one of them" which basically is "anybody but me." Literally, no, it wouldn't make sense. But Mafia as a game would totally fail if everything was meant to be taken literally. By your 2nd and 3rd points. Not giving a flying fuck and your general attitude although not making you scum, isn't really pro-town either. If townie were to be like this because it shows how they are attracting attention to themselves therefore they're not mafia, then we'd probably have a no-lynch every Day. Is that what you want? It is exactly these kind of people besides scum that we need to get rid of in order for the town to have a clear focus, all townies should have to be on the same page in this no-flip game or we won't be able to accomplish anything (like Day 1). Pro-town. That's a phrase I use a lot. When I'm fucking scum. If I'm not scum, then unless there's a village idiot role (and there isn't), I by definition must be "pro-fucking-town." And you seem to know a lot about who's scum and who isn't. Also, what the fuck is "getting rid of these kinds of people?" Are you an L smurf or something? Or just mafia? On a side note, if you're saying that I'm playing "safe" or "neutral", I remember Radfield saying he'd push for me after work. Then he gets off work and goes "oh dear, no one did the work for me to push for ilj while I was gone? oh well I'll just hold off til tmr to post more about him." He also said that I was marginally a better lynch target because I'm scummier than both decon/Vis, yet he "didn't want to provide more targets to the fray." THAT imo is playing safe. If you've got time to post at work, truly believe that I'm a scummy target, you would have had the balls to convince town to switch their votes to me. I'm sure with so many lone votes that people would've been willing to switch over if you did so. But why didn't he do it? He's afraid. He's afraid that people won't switch, and he's afraid people will tell him off that what he just did was to cause more confusion to town by adding more lynch targets. Also, he has been spreading fog everywhere and making me seem like the bad guy out of everything. Notice how all he's been doing is agreeing with people that I'm scum, yet wants other people to do all the work for him? Caller helped, and now Palmar has been calling me scum without saying anything besides that. And then he told people to mull over my posts and see how neutral they are, and potentially come up with their own conclusions. Radfield was leaning townie from the beginning, but now he's just more and more scummy in my eyes. Radfield is going to be killed between now and Day 3. Don't worry about him. For now, let me summarize your argument as this: Caller says ILJ is playing safe/neutral, therefore he is scummy. ILJ acknowledges he is neutral (read above) but denies that makes him scummy. ILJ says that Radfield is playing safe/neutral, therefore he is scummy. Therefore, we establish that safe/neutral = scummy. And since ILJ acknowledged he is neutral... ... do I really need to spell this out for you? | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
How can you tell that decon had 1 bullet? And about defending teamates, isn't that what you have been doing with viscera all along? The quote of deconduo is he jumping on kurumi when he thought he was claiming to have killed GGQ. That supports my theory, which I have stated above. | ||
Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On June 30 2011 04:58 sandroba wrote: @caller LOL nice that you nitpick on the fact that I mistyped GGQ instead of GM. How can you tell that decon had 1 bullet? And about defending teamates, isn't that what you have been doing with viscera all along? The quote of deconduo is he jumping on kurumi when he thought he was claiming to have killed GGQ. That supports my theory, which I have stated above. wat alright no point arguing with scum who dont even bother reading the thread too bad i have no bullets left | ||
Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
he's not doing that in rol's real time mafia, so I'm hanging him day 1 there for not tunneling me. By the way, where did all the discussion about radfield being mafia go? I think he's mafia. Also RoL said I was saying smart stuff so he's probably mafia too. | ||
Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On June 30 2011 04:58 sandroba wrote: @caller LOL nice that you nitpick on the fact that I mistyped GGQ instead of GM. How can you tell that decon had 1 bullet? And about defending teamates, isn't that what you have been doing with viscera all along? The quote of deconduo is he jumping on kurumi when he thought he was claiming to have killed GGQ. That supports my theory, which I have stated above. Decon said so. On June 28 2011 22:23 deconduo wrote: The shady Iraqis who sold me my shotgun only gave me one bullet. ______________________________________________________________ On June 27 2011 23:43 Caller wrote: I dont understand why nobody believes that I annihilated GGQ's ass do you doubt the size of my penis? On June 29 2011 01:09 Caller wrote: i already claimed Drive By Sodomite.keep digging your own grave, it gives me a hardon. That'll make it all the more painful in your annihilation, huehuehue Does this shit ever stop? | ||
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