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Aite here goes nothing
I’m vigilante, I used my one bullet to shoot GMarshal on Night 1. Why? Because I’m a prick. I also sodomized GGQ, but that was mafia killing him.
Anyways here’s how its going down;
Ilovejonn is scummy as shit because like Radfield mentioned Ilovejonn is more neutral than his neutralness Neutral Minister of Switzerland. He only goes after obvious trolls like me and Kurumi, while just mumbling about how “oh we gotta help the town and save the children.”
So here’s a post by post debunking of his posts.
Totally forgot VisceraEyes replaced chaoser. Point still stands but I guess we'll have to see what Vis posts.
~says nothing while still “contributes”
Oh and scratch what I said about Hesmyrr, forgot he was replaced by Palmar... stupid me.
~see above
Please, if you have time to post right now if you're at work or whatever then do it right now. I'd love to see how I'm the strongest case for Day 1 lynch. Oh, and what happened to we should lynch inactive/lurkers? If you can convince the whole town to lynch me when I'm at work 6 pm - 1 am I'll be amazed, and also depressed. Remember when Radfield said it a Day 1 no-lynch isn't too bad? Yeah, that's where I disagree with him. There are plenty of lynch candidates right now.
Also, what happened to the people saying we should never no-lynch yet are not doing anything about it. Look at how many lone votes on a single person there are. The way things are heading right now by deadline comes there won't even be a lynch if we can't come down to 2 targets max.
I'm going to hold off on Vis since he just subbed in and made points allowing us to see where he stand on things, but my vote stays on deconduo. I don't know what he is trying to do but it's not helping town. How can he prove after the night that he is a vig and shot someone and not just scum/SK? As been said by tons of people it's all wifom.
We can either buckle down on 1 lurker/troll and 1 person we think is scummy, better than having more than 4 targets up for lynch. Kurumi/Caller + deconduo would be my choices. FOS on people voting for no reason and people having a lone vote on very weak cases.
He does three scummy things here. Firstly, his defense isn’t “I’m not scummy because your logic sucks” or “Why lynch me when we can lynch xyz” but instead “Everybody but me is a better lynch.” Secondly, he says “look at all these people that aren’t acting according to town policy, we should kill them.” Who gives a fuck about town policy. Mafia are the ones that would tend NOT to break town policy openly like me and Kurumi are, because they don’t want to attract attention. On the other hand, I simply don’t give a fuck, and do what I want. If anything (and this is the third point), your “we should lynch inactives and unverifiable roleclaims” is a staple “I don’t want to attract attention please focus on someone so I can sheep along accordingly” tactic.
Anyways the only thing that’s preventing me from flat out shooting him tonight (well, aside from my lack of bullets) is the fact that he clearly hasn’t been paying attention to the thread. As a mafia, I know that I always double read my posts to make sure I didn’t make a slipup or a mistake. The fact that Ilovejonn has made several fuckups involving peoples’ names leads me to believe two things:
a) He’s a townie because his mafia buddies would’ve kept him updated, or he would’ve at least double checked.
b) He doesn’t give a shit about what’s posted in the thread as long as he doesn’t get killed. Which is scummy.
Gentlemen, I leave the rest to you.
Coming up next is why I voted LSB, why deconduo was legit, why Kurumi probably isn’t scummy, and why BC should be killed day 2 if he doesn’t do a certain something. All this and much much more in the 10 O Clock News.
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lol caller.
I am looking forward to this.
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On June 29 2011 15:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
The fact is, there's a reasonable argument FOR a No Lynch under certain circumstances where town is concerned (See RoL's post on the matter).
Conversely, there is literally NO time Mafia would choose to No Lynch over mislynching a townie. I don't care who's on the team, I don't care if they risk exposure by doing so, it is 100% of the time better to lynch a townie than it is to No Lynch.
And Mafia would KNOW I'm town.
So I can't stress this enough guys. I'd bet almost anything in the world that the remainder of the scum-team is on this list. My guesses are in red, for what it's worth.
BloodyC0bbler, sandroba, Radfield, deconduo, Amber[Light], Jackal58, Palmar
If I die tonight (which I find likely), take a GOOD HARD LOOK at the people on this list.
BLAH BLAH BLAH
You should really do your homework before you assume something.
If I were mafia and my scum buddy was a few votes away from being lynched I'd definitely choose a no lynch first. Conversely, [YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE?] if there were two people who I knew were town and were causing a LOT of mayhem, I, as scum, would rather go for a no lynch instead of exposing my team by vote-training. Both scenarios are entirely possible.
Your logic hasn't been helping you, and your credibility is going down the toilet.
Since Viscera is just talking out of his ass at this point I'll let him keep doing it until we lynch him, but this is EXACTLY what I warned the town about in my very first post during Day 1. Everything that I wanted to avoid actually ended up happening:
-Town couldn't pick just 2 targets to lynch
-Town couldn't reach any magic number
-Town couldn't trust each other, so the integrity of the town went out the window
-We no-lynched, the worst possible thing for the town to do.
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Why I voted LSB
LSB has dropped more one-liners than Horatio Crane.
On June 29 2011 00:28 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,read PYPI,I was Mafia here,together with Chezinu,Caller,Ace,tnkted and Gmarshal as a mole.
I will gladly answer everything. Missed that game. All right, I'll take a look at it
On June 29 2011 07:53 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 07:48 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:45 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 07:43 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:42 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 07:35 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around. And mafia do want to draw attention to themselves? Yeah. How about looking at all the people defending Fishball saying he has contributed a lot. Theres at least 4 people who have said so yet every time I asked them to point out a SINGLE post they have failed to do so. Palmar, ROL, BC, Kurumi have all claimed as such but refuse to back it up. Certain mafia like to draw attention to themselves, certain mafia don't. I just don't see why a vig would like to draw attention to himself. See, if Fishball was really mafia, the only thing that's gonna happen tonight is the roleblocker is going to pay you a visit, and all that's left is an angry town wondering why there is only one dead body. As for people defending Fishball, well by the pigeonhole principle states that not all of them can be mafia, and certainly I'd like more proof of his contributions, but saying someone is mafia because people are defending him is pretty wifom. And you know theres a roleblocker how exactly? Because in nearly every game there is a roleblocker or some sort for balance purposes. If there is a roleblocker and Fishball is mafia then yes, I will be blocked. Then I'm going to have a fun day tomorrow that will probably, given how most people are acting so far, end up with me lynched. However if Fishball is town then I'm sure mafia will be happy to let me kill him. Win-Win situation. Exactly, so you see why a vig would never claim?
On June 29 2011 07:47 LSB wrote:
And it would be naive to try to argue that there isn't one.
On June 29 2011 07:45 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 07:43 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:42 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 07:35 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around. And mafia do want to draw attention to themselves? Yeah. How about looking at all the people defending Fishball saying he has contributed a lot. Theres at least 4 people who have said so yet every time I asked them to point out a SINGLE post they have failed to do so. Palmar, ROL, BC, Kurumi have all claimed as such but refuse to back it up. Certain mafia like to draw attention to themselves, certain mafia don't. I just don't see why a vig would like to draw attention to himself. See, if Fishball was really mafia, the only thing that's gonna happen tonight is the roleblocker is going to pay you a visit, and all that's left is an angry town wondering why there is only one dead body. As for people defending Fishball, well by the pigeonhole principle states that not all of them can be mafia, and certainly I'd like more proof of his contributions, but saying someone is mafia because people are defending him is pretty wifom. And you know theres a roleblocker how exactly? Because in nearly every game there is a roleblocker or some sort for balance purposes.
On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:
Of course, both can't be mafia, and if you told me to pick one, I'd pick decon.
So
Unvote
##Vote: Deconduo
On June 29 2011 00:23 LSB wrote:
Oooh that makes more sense.
##VOTE: Chaoser
Placeholder vote. But I still think we should look at Kurumi
He’s also Lord Ispeculateaboutsetupinsteadofwhosmafiaasidefromeasytroll
On June 29 2011 00:46 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,read PYPI,I was Mafia here,together with Chezinu,Caller,Ace,tnkted and Gmarshal as a mole.
I will gladly answer everything. Your aggressiveness is new (from what I've gathered), your mafia experience is not. So I'll stick you back in the null reads box since Palmar cleared up his analysis.
On June 29 2011 00:20 LSB wrote:For the record if the deadline was tonight, I would be voting Chaoser for lurking. Of course, the deadline isn't tonight, so no need to hurry the decision. Now to look at Kurumi. Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 21:56 Palmar wrote:Hi, I want to write a little piece on the most helpful player in town. He thinks he's Ace, but he isn't. Also, he's bad. And he's scum. On June 27 2011 19:33 Kurumi wrote:
GGQ was killed because he is lucky when it comes to being mafia,gg vigilante. Nice analysis, only someone like you could honestly think such bullshit, but no worries, you can just hide behind the fact that "you're trolling". Oh wait, that's bad for town too. On June 27 2011 22:57 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,why the heck are You discussing night hits when we don't know shit,why do You suspect Caller killing GGQ? I know there are people with motive to kill GGQ,but betting it on Caller just because is dumb. I think we should leave Night hits for now. If you know something that the town doesnt, care to share? On June 28 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
I will continue herping derping till something worth a while comes or two men in black come to my house. ok, so you're not only being deliberately bad, but you're also refusing to try to help. There's nothing to it but scum. Can we just shoot him yet? Intresting analysis. But why does "trolling" make someone mafia? If trolling makes someone mafia, shouldn't Caller also be in that list? Now to add my own two cents. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) I haven't played with Kurumi yet, but a quick overview over his posting history shows that he normally isn't this aggressive. In addition, I don't believe he has played as mafia yet here, and the first time as mafia is always difficult. Could the aggressiveness be a sign of defensiveness? Or did I skim over his posts in XL too much? + Show Spoiler [Spam] +On June 28 2011 21:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 21:37 deconduo wrote:
I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:
-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.
-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.
If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.
If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight. No you're not. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Dtq68.jpg) Ooh that's a clever flowchart, doesn't seem that fun but it helps
On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Show nested quote +Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around.
On June 29 2011 07:42 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 07:35 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around. And mafia do want to draw attention to themselves? Yeah. How about looking at all the people defending Fishball saying he has contributed a lot. Theres at least 4 people who have said so yet every time I asked them to point out a SINGLE post they have failed to do so. Palmar, ROL, BC, Kurumi have all claimed as such but refuse to back it up. Certain mafia like to draw attention to themselves, certain mafia don't. I just don't see why a vig would like to draw attention to himself. See, if Fishball was really mafia, the only thing that's gonna happen tonight is the roleblocker is going to pay you a visit, and all that's left is an angry town wondering why there is only one dead body. As for people defending Fishball, well by the pigeonhole principle states that not all of them can be mafia, and certainly I'd like more proof of his contributions, but saying someone is mafia because people are defending him is pretty wifom.
In other words, in about 15 posts LSB has not said one goddamn thing and got away with it. He's either a blue or scum, and I feel LSB would be far more aggressive if he were a blue than he is now.
This has been the 9:15 news.
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On June 29 2011 16:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC, I'm not concerned about the 'world of hurt' you're going to bring on me. First of all, I called you out SPECIFICALLY to prove that you're ACTIVELY lurking.
You never once analyzed me. Not. Once. You never even posted after I'd been replaced in until near the deadline.
And you're right...your town play IS obvious. Obviously NOT how you're playing this game.
Also, I've voted for 3 people. Palmar, Amber and for like 2 secs LSB, which was IMMEDIATELY retracted as I never felt he was scummy and I admitted that. That's not flailing about. Yes, I DID plead for my life. If you DARE call that scummy, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo guy.
You don't find me scummy at all. And chances are, if you were town, you wouldn't find me scummy then either.
You've got a long road ahead of you if you plan to A) put me in a world of hurt, B) Analyze everyone who didn't vote for me and C) try and push ILJ for lynch tomorrow as you'll SURELY kill me tonight. I don't envy you, sir.
So do what you have to do. I'm but a small fish in a big pond here. But not quite as scummy a fish as you'd hoped. Kisses!
Says the guy who not only managed to get lynched on the first day in PTP, but also used an ability that I gave him to take out BC, a player who was playing pro-town from the start.
Maybe you could enlighten us with your analysis of BC's obviously anti-town play in both of these games.
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lmao this is entertaining
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On June 29 2011 22:31 Caller wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Why I voted LSBLSB has dropped more one-liners than Horatio Crane. On June 29 2011 00:28 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,read PYPI,I was Mafia here,together with Chezinu,Caller,Ace,tnkted and Gmarshal as a mole.
I will gladly answer everything. Missed that game. All right, I'll take a look at it On June 29 2011 07:53 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 07:48 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:45 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 07:43 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:42 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 07:35 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around. And mafia do want to draw attention to themselves? Yeah. How about looking at all the people defending Fishball saying he has contributed a lot. Theres at least 4 people who have said so yet every time I asked them to point out a SINGLE post they have failed to do so. Palmar, ROL, BC, Kurumi have all claimed as such but refuse to back it up. Certain mafia like to draw attention to themselves, certain mafia don't. I just don't see why a vig would like to draw attention to himself. See, if Fishball was really mafia, the only thing that's gonna happen tonight is the roleblocker is going to pay you a visit, and all that's left is an angry town wondering why there is only one dead body. As for people defending Fishball, well by the pigeonhole principle states that not all of them can be mafia, and certainly I'd like more proof of his contributions, but saying someone is mafia because people are defending him is pretty wifom. And you know theres a roleblocker how exactly? Because in nearly every game there is a roleblocker or some sort for balance purposes. If there is a roleblocker and Fishball is mafia then yes, I will be blocked. Then I'm going to have a fun day tomorrow that will probably, given how most people are acting so far, end up with me lynched. However if Fishball is town then I'm sure mafia will be happy to let me kill him. Win-Win situation. Exactly, so you see why a vig would never claim? On June 29 2011 07:47 LSB wrote:
And it would be naive to try to argue that there isn't one. On June 29 2011 07:45 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 07:43 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:42 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 07:35 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around. And mafia do want to draw attention to themselves? Yeah. How about looking at all the people defending Fishball saying he has contributed a lot. Theres at least 4 people who have said so yet every time I asked them to point out a SINGLE post they have failed to do so. Palmar, ROL, BC, Kurumi have all claimed as such but refuse to back it up. Certain mafia like to draw attention to themselves, certain mafia don't. I just don't see why a vig would like to draw attention to himself. See, if Fishball was really mafia, the only thing that's gonna happen tonight is the roleblocker is going to pay you a visit, and all that's left is an angry town wondering why there is only one dead body. As for people defending Fishball, well by the pigeonhole principle states that not all of them can be mafia, and certainly I'd like more proof of his contributions, but saying someone is mafia because people are defending him is pretty wifom. And you know theres a roleblocker how exactly? Because in nearly every game there is a roleblocker or some sort for balance purposes. On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:
Of course, both can't be mafia, and if you told me to pick one, I'd pick decon.
So
Unvote
##Vote: Deconduo On June 29 2011 00:23 LSB wrote:
Oooh that makes more sense.
##VOTE: Chaoser
Placeholder vote. But I still think we should look at Kurumi He’s also Lord Ispeculateaboutsetupinsteadofwhosmafiaasidefromeasytroll On June 29 2011 00:46 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:27 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,read PYPI,I was Mafia here,together with Chezinu,Caller,Ace,tnkted and Gmarshal as a mole.
I will gladly answer everything. Your aggressiveness is new (from what I've gathered), your mafia experience is not. So I'll stick you back in the null reads box since Palmar cleared up his analysis. On June 29 2011 00:20 LSB wrote:For the record if the deadline was tonight, I would be voting Chaoser for lurking. Of course, the deadline isn't tonight, so no need to hurry the decision. Now to look at Kurumi. Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 21:56 Palmar wrote:Hi, I want to write a little piece on the most helpful player in town. He thinks he's Ace, but he isn't. Also, he's bad. And he's scum. On June 27 2011 19:33 Kurumi wrote:
GGQ was killed because he is lucky when it comes to being mafia,gg vigilante. Nice analysis, only someone like you could honestly think such bullshit, but no worries, you can just hide behind the fact that "you're trolling". Oh wait, that's bad for town too. On June 27 2011 22:57 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,why the heck are You discussing night hits when we don't know shit,why do You suspect Caller killing GGQ? I know there are people with motive to kill GGQ,but betting it on Caller just because is dumb. I think we should leave Night hits for now. If you know something that the town doesnt, care to share? On June 28 2011 02:53 Kurumi wrote:
I will continue herping derping till something worth a while comes or two men in black come to my house. ok, so you're not only being deliberately bad, but you're also refusing to try to help. There's nothing to it but scum. Can we just shoot him yet? Intresting analysis. But why does "trolling" make someone mafia? If trolling makes someone mafia, shouldn't Caller also be in that list? Now to add my own two cents. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) I haven't played with Kurumi yet, but a quick overview over his posting history shows that he normally isn't this aggressive. In addition, I don't believe he has played as mafia yet here, and the first time as mafia is always difficult. Could the aggressiveness be a sign of defensiveness? Or did I skim over his posts in XL too much? + Show Spoiler [Spam] +On June 28 2011 21:56 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 21:37 deconduo wrote:
I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:
-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.
-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.
If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.
If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight. No you're not. Ooh that's a clever flowchart, doesn't seem that fun but it helps On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Show nested quote +Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around. On June 29 2011 07:42 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 07:35 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around. And mafia do want to draw attention to themselves? Yeah. How about looking at all the people defending Fishball saying he has contributed a lot. Theres at least 4 people who have said so yet every time I asked them to point out a SINGLE post they have failed to do so. Palmar, ROL, BC, Kurumi have all claimed as such but refuse to back it up. Certain mafia like to draw attention to themselves, certain mafia don't. I just don't see why a vig would like to draw attention to himself. See, if Fishball was really mafia, the only thing that's gonna happen tonight is the roleblocker is going to pay you a visit, and all that's left is an angry town wondering why there is only one dead body. As for people defending Fishball, well by the pigeonhole principle states that not all of them can be mafia, and certainly I'd like more proof of his contributions, but saying someone is mafia because people are defending him is pretty wifom. In other words, in about 15 posts LSB has not said one goddamn thing and got away with it. He's either a blue or scum, and I feel LSB would be far more aggressive if he were a blue than he is now. This has been the 9:15 news.
After reading his analysis on me and deconduo, I did say I'd shoot him on the spot if I can.
Anyways, I'm really busy at work now, couldn't even post a thing yesterday. I will be busy for the next couple days. Was going to make a major move, but just don't have the time right now to type it up and constantly pay attention to it, it probably wouldn't matter anyways. *cough*
Just trying to squeeze in a post and read some of the thread right now while getting my morning refreshments. Hopefully I can drop by again during lunch break.
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lol I am so happy caller is actually doing work now. That post on LSB will save me some time later on. On the bright side, I can now stop labeling you as effortless troll!
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Why Kurumi isn’t scummy
Kurumi is a self-admitted not good at mafia player. That means he is more prone to making the typical scumslips that mafia would make. Either that or he would totally clam up like he did in PYP. Yet Kurumi hasn’t slipped up: if anything, he’s acting just as troll here as he is normally. He’s playing VERY aggressively, calling people out, not even pretending to be contributing, and etc. Mafia DON’T do this. Especially not good ones. And since he hasn’t slipped up in like 10000 posts, I think he’s either a normal townie, or a suicide bomber.
Why BC is fishy:
BC always has all the mafia by day 2. Unfortunately, he also usually dies by Day 2. BC hasn’t contributed much-well, he has contributed, but not in the sense that I’m talking about. He’s just acting… so damn fishy. I can’t pin anything on him because there’s nothing to pin him on, but he’s just acting so damn fishy that my gut says to keep an eye on him.
more to come when I feel like it
RoL just scumslipped
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On June 29 2011 22:31 Caller wrote:
In other words, in about 15 posts LSB has not said one goddamn thing and got away with it. He's either a blue or scum, and I feel LSB would be far more aggressive if he were a blue than he is now.
Well... I don't really have annul to tunnel day 1, and I don't find anyone one else convincingly scum. So I'm sitting back for now
Oh yeah, and you kindof missed a few larger posts that said some stuff in that massive wall of text. What's up with the widesweeeping generalization?
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On June 29 2011 23:19 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 22:31 Caller wrote:
In other words, in about 15 posts LSB has not said one goddamn thing and got away with it. He's either a blue or scum, and I feel LSB would be far more aggressive if he were a blue than he is now.
Well... I don't really have annul to tunnel day 1, and I don't find anyone one else convincingly scum. So I'm sitting back for now Oh yeah, and you kindof missed a few larger posts that said some stuff in that massive wall of text. What's up with the widesweeeping generalization?
why dont you enlighten us as to the nature of these posts
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Like what? the only one that I can think of that is useless when taken in context is this one
On June 29 2011 00:23 LSB wrote:
Oooh that makes more sense.
##VOTE: Chaoser
Placeholder vote. But I still think we should look at Kurumi
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On June 29 2011 23:25 LSB wrote:Like what? the only one that I can think of that is useless when taken in context is this one Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:23 LSB wrote:
Oooh that makes more sense.
##VOTE: Chaoser
Placeholder vote. But I still think we should look at Kurumi
they're all useless and say nothing. Show us why you don't think they're useless.
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On June 29 2011 23:05 Caller wrote:
Why Kurumi isn’t scummy
Kurumi is a self-admitted not good at mafia player. That means he is more prone to making the typical scumslips that mafia would make. Either that or he would totally clam up like he did in PYP. Yet Kurumi hasn’t slipped up: if anything, he’s acting just as troll here as he is normally. He’s playing VERY aggressively, calling people out, not even pretending to be contributing, and etc. Mafia DON’T do this. Especially not good ones. And since he hasn’t slipped up in like 10000 posts, I think he’s either a normal townie, or a suicide bomber.
Why BC is fishy:
BC always has all the mafia by day 2. Unfortunately, he also usually dies by Day 2. BC hasn’t contributed much-well, he has contributed, but not in the sense that I’m talking about. He’s just acting… so damn fishy. I can’t pin anything on him because there’s nothing to pin him on, but he’s just acting so damn fishy that my gut says to keep an eye on him.
more to come when I feel like it
RoL just scumslipped
You're probably right about Kurumi. I reached that conclusion myself.
Btw, Viscera is not scum
This game is easy, now we just kill, in no particular order
RoL
Radfield
BC
Fishball
ILJ
Chez
Scamp
Jackal
Sandroba
If not every mafia is dead by then we lynch in the following order
Caller
Amber
VisceraEyes
and Kurumi and I are the last people standing.
I see no flaw in my plan, it is 100% scumproof and anyone that disagrees is scum.
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fuck, I forgot LSB
meh, he should be shot anyway.
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On June 29 2011 23:05 Caller wrote:
Why Kurumi isn’t scummy
Kurumi is a self-admitted not good at mafia player. That means he is more prone to making the typical scumslips that mafia would make. Either that or he would totally clam up like he did in PYP. Yet Kurumi hasn’t slipped up: if anything, he’s acting just as troll here as he is normally. He’s playing VERY aggressively, calling people out, not even pretending to be contributing, and etc. Mafia DON’T do this. Especially not good ones. And since he hasn’t slipped up in like 10000 posts, I think he’s either a normal townie, or a suicide bomber.
Why BC is fishy:
BC always has all the mafia by day 2. Unfortunately, he also usually dies by Day 2. BC hasn’t contributed much-well, he has contributed, but not in the sense that I’m talking about. He’s just acting… so damn fishy. I can’t pin anything on him because there’s nothing to pin him on, but he’s just acting so damn fishy that my gut says to keep an eye on him.
more to come when I feel like it
RoL just scumslipped
Rofl?
Caller don't skew shit. The most reds i have ever had by day 2 is 2 of like a 6 man team. I also usually live into day 4-5 more often than not. You literally have no idea what my town play is like.
I will let people go back and look at my game history and realize i'm not full of shit. If the only thing you have to make me seem "scummy" is my "meta" then chances are i'm not red. For shame caller, you know better.
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Caller, I'm not sure how you get to the conclusion that missing things in thread is somehow a townie-tell. If anything, mafia make more game related mistakes because they are skim-reading the thread, and not spending time scum hunting. ILJ missed both subs, which is a fairly clear sign that he wasn't reading through the thread.
Palmar: I'm not super convinced that Viscera is scum, but he is certainly a long way off of prob-town. That being said, he's likely off the chopping block for now as we have better targets.
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On June 30 2011 00:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 23:05 Caller wrote:
Why Kurumi isn’t scummy
Kurumi is a self-admitted not good at mafia player. That means he is more prone to making the typical scumslips that mafia would make. Either that or he would totally clam up like he did in PYP. Yet Kurumi hasn’t slipped up: if anything, he’s acting just as troll here as he is normally. He’s playing VERY aggressively, calling people out, not even pretending to be contributing, and etc. Mafia DON’T do this. Especially not good ones. And since he hasn’t slipped up in like 10000 posts, I think he’s either a normal townie, or a suicide bomber.
Why BC is fishy:
BC always has all the mafia by day 2. Unfortunately, he also usually dies by Day 2. BC hasn’t contributed much-well, he has contributed, but not in the sense that I’m talking about. He’s just acting… so damn fishy. I can’t pin anything on him because there’s nothing to pin him on, but he’s just acting so damn fishy that my gut says to keep an eye on him.
more to come when I feel like it
RoL just scumslipped Rofl? Caller don't skew shit. The most reds i have ever had by day 2 is 2 of like a 6 man team. I also usually live into day 4-5 more often than not. You literally have no idea what my town play is like. I will let people go back and look at my game history and realize i'm not full of shit. If the only thing you have to make me seem "scummy" is my "meta" then chances are i'm not red. For shame caller, you know better.
no i don't
fishycobbler
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Well, my credibility is officially shot. Anyone asking for my opinion is now scum looking to deceive town with nonsense (apparently).
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