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On June 12 2011 10:27 grush57 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 08:36 supersoft wrote:On June 12 2011 08:31 aprudds wrote:On June 12 2011 08:01 Kurumi wrote:On June 12 2011 07:46 aprudds wrote:
I have no intention on filling it with 5 posts in a row -_-. Since You were here(or are) why You didn't post anything helpful? People,what do You think about my Plan? The Plan Your plan isn't really a plan, but more of a set of guidelines that is mostly common sense in the first place. There isn't much to say other then yes it's reasonable. As for not posting anything helpful, I look at the facts and analysis, make my judgments, point out faulty logic, and post my thoughts. I am open to any suggestions and criticisms but you will need to be more specific then "be more useful." Personally I don't find your posting style to be very constructive; it clutters up the thread leading to people not wanting to read or listen to you. You need to work on clarity and conciseness within your posts. That being said there has been an improvement in your posting quality which I thank you for. lol, you and grush, you two are so obviously scum. Now you try to be serious and talk something smart etc. - Acting as if everything is normal and giving some nice advices isn't enough. Neither one of you even tryed to convince us, that someone other than you is guilty. Coming from someone who has just agreed with another's analysises, always stating the ovbious, and always quoting someone's analysis and then saying that u agree and go vote for them. Sounds scummy for yourself, and now ur calling people scum for doing analysis. I'm sorry for being indirect, but ok aprudds is definetly mafia by the way he is posting, and Vain and Treadmill are innocent. Happy?
Aw. poor mafia, about to get lynched and still can't defend himself.
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On June 12 2011 21:40 Kurumi wrote:
Grush.. You aren't third medic, are You? That's why You said Treadmill might be a vet.. You protected him! iGrok wanted his scumbuddies to hit Night 1(4KP possible):
GGQ(experienced,was on iGrok) - stacked 2 hits
DeMorcef(defended iGrok)
Treadmill(defended iGrok) - healed by Grush
They did not shoot people who attacked iGrok(besides GGQ,who made a brilliant post) because that would be suspicious, they went for the opposite.
Night 2(3KP possible):
Jackal58 (experienced)
Impervious (experienced)
Kurumi (somehow experienced) - healed by Grush
If You're the "real" medic, PLEASE DON'T COUNTER CLAIM.
I don't want to lose third blue thanks to lynch. Grush, please convince others. I will switch my vote to Vain after I get back from a little trip but.. I seriously need You to TALK.
The thing is:
We lynch Medic, no saves during the night. We lose Medic during the night, one save will be there.
I don't see a case where Mafia Goon would out town as Vet/another medic possible.
If that's the case, then Treadmill or whoever got healed and hit the first day can simply tell us what happened. It's funny how we haven't even investigated where that last KP went on night 1.
The other possibility is that Treadmill really is a vet and the mafia shot him once on night 1, and so it was a really bad scum slip (seems TOO obvious though). Whoever did take a hit should really come out now... I don't see the harm in that.
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On June 13 2011 06:31 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 05:40 Vain wrote:
I would also go for grush at this time. I'm reading the thread again and i can't find much more than 2 line posts. But this could of course be his way of playing mafia so look at the facts.
Voted for freeloader and unvote
Did not vote on Rookie44(gtrsrs)
Voted for amazingxkcd
His reasoning for the votes is also a bit off. A few quotes now and then wouldn't hurt.
Oh and btw gtrsrs. why do you start a post with "man treadmill your 100% scum scum scum scum fucking scum. And then: oh well don't mind that we'll just lynch Vain and grush57. And what the fuck. Derailing the thread with telling we probably have 7 scum? Really? That's not town play in my book. I would have labeled that as scum play if i weren't convinced you were town.
i will post now before kurumi goes flying mad with his lurker obsession. We have still 27 people in the game where a lot of people don't post that well thought out post This post is scum 101, Let me summarize it. im gonna vote for grush He plays a certain way, but that doesnt mean shit he votes a certain way, (insert conclusion?) Oh and btw gtrsr why do you suspect me, plz suspect treadmill instead or else ur scum Where did you conclude grush57 was mafia? Normally i would agree he is scum, just for posting bad, but grookie and jimbooo show that since this is a newbie game, not everyone will post as constructive. Also the day 1 posts of grtrs, whining about the haikus, was just asking for votes( in fact he literally asked for votes). Please explain again why you think grush is scum. That being said, you surely deserve your place on my FOS list : Treadmill
Grush
Vain
This post by AwesomeAll one of the mafia who was modkilled decreases my suspicion for Treadmill and Vain. I don't think he was planning to get mod-killed and he knew that Grush was about to be lynched so that was a safe bet. However, there's no reason to throw any of his remaining 2 mafia buddies under the bus before the lynch has even happened yet.
Thus, I'm going to say that Treadmill and Vain are both town.
On June 13 2011 09:50 35spike1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 09:09 Alderan wrote:
Sorry for being so late to the party here lady's and gents, weekends are pretty busy for me, especially this weekend. Will SIGNIFICANTLY more active into tomorrow.
It seems that everyone has jumped on this Grush bandwagon, and I don't necessarily think that its a bad idea so I'm going to throw a vote there for the day.
I feel like analysis of Grush's posts at this point will be overly redundant in that I can only find a couple and they are by and large meaningless (the biggest tell being his association with iGork earlier in the game).
Lol, what a scum post. Apoligising for lack of activity, happily stating that he'll jump on the Grush bandwagon, and explaining that he can't be bothered checking out Grush's posts.
Similar reasoning here for Alderan. I doubt 35spike1 realized he was about to get mod-killed since he was posting in this thread, but seems wants us to suspect Alderan.
On June 13 2011 14:47 heist wrote:
All 3 mafia who died this day voted for amazingxkcd. I think it's a safe assumption that NO mafia voted for iGrok. I think we should continue this game based on this assumption.
Treadmill
Alderan
Blackone
Aprudds
Munk-E
These are the only ones left on that list.
Vain and teamsolid are the ones who voted for Jackal and thus of lower priority but still possibilities.
The ones on the list should be your DT targets.
The remaining suspects (who didn't vote iGrok) are Blackone, Aprudds, Munk-E, heist and myself.
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On June 13 2011 09:18 grush57 wrote:
I would like to inform you all, that Vain is definetly Town by the way he is acting, voting, and playing.
On the other hand, grush made this post AFTER it was already almost certain he was about to get lynched. Seems to me like he wants to mislead us into thinking Vain is mafia (rather than a different target) by defending him moments before getting lynched.
Again, I'd take from this that Vain is NOT mafia.
On June 13 2011 09:47 35spike1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 09:06 Vain wrote:On June 13 2011 08:58 aprudds wrote:
Since Grush doesn't seem to be defending himself I'll vote him. Sorry that I don't have much analysis, I'm just not very confident in my accusations.
Also can someone give me a second opinion on
treadmill
Senj
Kairo
Alderan
and their voting patterns. Noone has commented on it yet. You can't make a case just on voting patterns. Remember Impervious also voted that way? i thought you guys already decided senj was town somewhere on the line? I don't remember that, I think we're still unsure of Senj. I'm not sure about Treadmill, but he said he'll give us an analysis of Alderan so that'll be interesting. Kairo seems a bit lurky, + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 11:06 Kairo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 10:28 Impervious wrote:
It's currently a tie. I'm going to break it.
I feel like there's a strong case vs iGrok, although I am less sure of it than I am of xkcd.
I am a little surprised that no vigis took a shot last night. Our vigis may be inactive, or we may not even have any. Because I was sure the case for lynching xkcd was strong enough to warrant an early hit.
w/e. I'm voting xkcd for now. I feel that we were lucky that we did not get a third townie kill with misvigies, since it would have caused huge amounts of confusion. How likely is it that iGrok and xkcd is on the same team? What would it mean if a) iGrok flips green? b) iGrok flips red? c) xkcd flips green? d) xkcd flips red? My current vote stands for xkcd, but i can still be convinced to change. If any mafia try to affect the grok/xkcd vote situation they will have to leave footprints, which is useful. Is there any 95%+ identified mafia in any of the "what if" scenarios a-d that we can use our vigies on? Is there any 95%+ identified BLATANTLY OBVIOUS FOR MAFIA medic target in any of the "what if" scenarios a-d that we can use? Do NOT out blues for the mafia. There is no need to do any analysis for them. For some of this to be relevant: when does abilites resolve? is it by timer or simuntaneusly at the end of the night? when does medic/vigi PM timing (early/late) matter?I believe this is potentially a double-edged sword, since stressing a decision for mafia could be useful while a premature medic/vigi decision could be really really bad. What would be nice would be to force a win/win situation for the town, but I can not see such a path clearly at this time. is the mafia allowed to change their targets during the night?Given: If targets are allowed to be changed and abilities resolve simuntaneusly at the end of the night then much of this post is garbage. Just one of his posts I found, it's mostly fluff, trying to seem like he's doing something. The a) b) c) d) is him trying to push the work onto other people.
Kairo, not that we were suspecting him anyhow, is probably town.
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On June 13 2011 09:47 35spike1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2011 09:06 Vain wrote:On June 13 2011 08:58 aprudds wrote:
Since Grush doesn't seem to be defending himself I'll vote him. Sorry that I don't have much analysis, I'm just not very confident in my accusations.
Also can someone give me a second opinion on
treadmill
Senj
Kairo
Alderan
and their voting patterns. Noone has commented on it yet. You can't make a case just on voting patterns. Remember Impervious also voted that way? i thought you guys already decided senj was town somewhere on the line? I don't remember that, I think we're still unsure of Senj. I'm not sure about Treadmill, but he said he'll give us an analysis of Alderan so that'll be interesting. Kairo seems a bit lurky, + Show Spoiler +On June 09 2011 11:06 Kairo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2011 10:28 Impervious wrote:
It's currently a tie. I'm going to break it.
I feel like there's a strong case vs iGrok, although I am less sure of it than I am of xkcd.
I am a little surprised that no vigis took a shot last night. Our vigis may be inactive, or we may not even have any. Because I was sure the case for lynching xkcd was strong enough to warrant an early hit.
w/e. I'm voting xkcd for now. I feel that we were lucky that we did not get a third townie kill with misvigies, since it would have caused huge amounts of confusion. How likely is it that iGrok and xkcd is on the same team? What would it mean if a) iGrok flips green? b) iGrok flips red? c) xkcd flips green? d) xkcd flips red? My current vote stands for xkcd, but i can still be convinced to change. If any mafia try to affect the grok/xkcd vote situation they will have to leave footprints, which is useful. Is there any 95%+ identified mafia in any of the "what if" scenarios a-d that we can use our vigies on? Is there any 95%+ identified BLATANTLY OBVIOUS FOR MAFIA medic target in any of the "what if" scenarios a-d that we can use? Do NOT out blues for the mafia. There is no need to do any analysis for them. For some of this to be relevant: when does abilites resolve? is it by timer or simuntaneusly at the end of the night? when does medic/vigi PM timing (early/late) matter?I believe this is potentially a double-edged sword, since stressing a decision for mafia could be useful while a premature medic/vigi decision could be really really bad. What would be nice would be to force a win/win situation for the town, but I can not see such a path clearly at this time. is the mafia allowed to change their targets during the night?Given: If targets are allowed to be changed and abilities resolve simuntaneusly at the end of the night then much of this post is garbage. Just one of his posts I found, it's mostly fluff, trying to seem like he's doing something. The a) b) c) d) is him trying to push the work onto other people.
Further decreases my suspicion for Treadmill (already pretty much cleared from TheAwesomeAll) and Senj.
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More analysis of 35spike1:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2011 19:42 35spike1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 18:44 Kurumi wrote:On June 11 2011 18:39 heist wrote:
It's easy to say that Treadmill's analysis is dead wrong in hindsight. I can completely understand defending iGrok at that point in time. I personally wanted to avoid another bandwagon lynch. And you guys have to admit that you were presenting a very biased analysis which if looked at in another light could have just as easily held iGrok as townie. Don't know if it was iGrok's plan but I felt bad for the guy getting tunneled so hard haha.
Anyways I'm willing to admit I was wrong, but looking to our lynch, I also think grush57 is our main candidate. Bandwagoned freeloader early on, has mostly useless posts, and I feel like he voted for amazingxkcd as soon as he felt "safe" to do so (after Treadmill posted his defense and voted for amazing)
Grush57 is still not dead and I called for vigi hit,pity You vigis TT About "bandwagon lynch" Every lynch is a bandwagon of some kind. The guy with the most votes wins,the thing about bandwagon is how fast it is forming and on what kind of evidence. When we've got accurate DT check votes will storm from every side really fast. I thought we get accurate DT checks now that GF is dead. I think Freeloader should be added to this list, he hasn't really contributed to anything and seems to post only to state who he's voting for.
Freeloader confirmed as town.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 10 2011 17:23 35spike1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 16:44 Pyo wrote:On June 10 2011 13:49 Senj wrote:
Wow. I couldn't have been more wrong about anyone this game. wrong about whom? I presume he's talking about this Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 12:33 Senj wrote:
Time's running out and my prime suspect looks like he's about to get himself mod-killed. I'd rather not waste my vote on Jimbooo.
My vote is going towards amazingxkcd. His day 1 activity, especially the first post and then several after attacking others for making fluff first posts are my basis here.
Btw, I thought that this would be interesting, iGroks Do-Not-Lynch List. Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 03:08 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:56 Alderan wrote:On June 07 2011 02:53 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:43 Vain wrote:On June 07 2011 02:31 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.
First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.
I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before? Euh, i meant town. Jackal stated that when he was town he's just as hard to analyze. Iirc he was not scum the other games Jackal played with him. + Show Spoiler +On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going. AmazingxkcdI've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts.
It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it
This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:
interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.
Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:
Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.
For town: aidnai, GMarshal
For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13
LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide
So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.
@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.
You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town. @iGrok and @Jackal58; I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58. About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion. Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day. He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not. He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK. Ok, yeah that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, I'm starting to see how Kurumi could be a townie, but I could also see him as a scum who felt the pressure and is trying to change his tune. I still don't thing he should be lynched today. I'm trying to think of who should be, but I really don't know :/ But you agree that it shouldn't be freeloader? Yeah. Here's my "Don't Lynch" list (in no particular order): Me ^^ Jackal58 Vain GGQ Kurumi Treadmill 35spike1 CrJninja Xedat aprudds Actually, looking back, I'm going to put my vote on Drazerk, for twice voting without saying shit. (He might've posted once or twice, but absolutely no substance, only bandwagonning). And his reasoning was Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 03:26 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 03:11 Kurumi wrote:On June 07 2011 03:08 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:56 Alderan wrote:On June 07 2011 02:53 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:43 Vain wrote:On June 07 2011 02:31 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.
First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.
I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before? Euh, i meant town. Jackal stated that when he was town he's just as hard to analyze. Iirc he was not scum the other games Jackal played with him. + Show Spoiler +On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going. AmazingxkcdI've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts.
It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it
This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:
interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.
Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:
Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.
For town: aidnai, GMarshal
For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13
LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide
So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.
@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.
You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town. @iGrok and @Jackal58; I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58. About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion. Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day. He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not. He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK. Ok, yeah that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, I'm starting to see how Kurumi could be a townie, but I could also see him as a scum who felt the pressure and is trying to change his tune. I still don't thing he should be lynched today. I'm trying to think of who should be, but I really don't know :/ But you agree that it shouldn't be freeloader? Yeah. Here's my "Don't Lynch" list (in no particular order): Me ^^ Jackal58 Vain GGQ Kurumi Treadmill 35spike1 CrJninja Xedat aprudds Actually, looking back, I'm going to put my vote on Drazerk, for twice voting without saying shit. (He might've posted once or twice, but absolutely no substance, only bandwagonning). That's pretty big list. Care to explain why those people shouldn't be lynched? Me: I'm Town. Jackal, Vain, GGQ: I want to know who among you is also town. Kurumi: I don't know what to think about him, but I want to know more. As the game progresses he's gotten better imo, so I'm waiting to see how he turns out. Treadmill, 35spike1, CrJNinja, Xedat, aprudds: Hes not afraid to say what he thinks, and did some decent analysis. These people should be watched closely, I myself am still keeping an eye on Treadmill.
As if we needed it, more evidence that Treadmill is town.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2011 09:31 35spike1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 00:06 Kurumi wrote:THE PLAN Hello Townies! Planning ahead our play is a really good way to get on the right track. I want to make some points for us to follow. - We shall not accept lurking. Active lurking (not posting but responding almost immediately to any sort of attack) is treated as scummy and will be punished.
- We shall not accept posters who do not express their feelings about players, are extremely cautious and have vague opinions about everything.
- We shall not accept people jumping on bandwagons without good explanation. Saying:
"They have already pointed that out"
"They seem scummy to me"
QUOTE: Player X is scum because Y,Z /QUOTE "I agree"
Is NOT enough!
- We shall not accept people who post without substance just to appear they contribute.
"Bandwagonner Johnny is scummish, because noone would jump on such bandwagon without good evidence. The lynch of Scum Joe wouldn't help, his posting thus far was good.
(Notice lack of expressing thoughts,those are empty statements,without anything linking person talking to the case,there's no "I think" "He is good lynch because of his errors like here: *insert post*" "His posting was good because here: *insert post* he tried to pressure Dianne the Lurker and after it I think Dianne painted herself as scum."
- We shall not accept people who bring down every plan,try to silence discussion and divert attention without strong evidence on someone else.
Feel free to add something to that list. I hope it is good enough for us to catch scum and hopefully get it lynched. What do you mean by "We shall not accept...". Are we going to insta-lynch people for it, or just pressure them? Otherwise, it's all just basics. @ Vain, where you have you been? I'm sure you're completely happy that Grush is under fire atm but if you don't speak up, you'll be next. This would be a good place for you to start I WILL NOT ACCEPT LURKERS
Again, Treadmill confirmed as town.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2011 17:20 35spike1 wrote:
Lol... Guys, we need to get some conversation going. Otherwise lurkers will lurk and town will fail.
Suggests that the remaining mafia may not be lurkers.
More analysis of TheAwesomeAll:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2011 15:23 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2011 13:02 gtrsrs wrote:
i agree with trancestorm's analysis of Vain, and i agree 100%. i think we should pressure Vain.
the other main mafia candidate for me is still grush57. i looked through his last ~15 posts in this topic and they were ALL < 3 lines except for 1 which was 3 lines. none of them have anything of value at all, except the one that's 3 lines.
in that post he declares that mafia likes to stay quiet so as to divert our attention. this is fallacious. mafia likes to actively lurk so we target the quiet people and they blend in. with ~15 posts that say nothing, a pressure vote on me, and ultimately a vote for amazingxkcd, i'm sticking with my gut that grush is mafia
grush or vain hopefully take a bullet tonight, if not, we need to lynch one of them for sure tomorrow. my next biggest candidate is treadmill, followed by abrupps and teamsolid.
town list for sure is:
pyo
gtrsrs
trancestorm
xedat
kurumi
jackal based on his day 1 voting for falafi i think Munk e is town as well.
Increases suspicion of Munk-E, although it could've very well been an attempt by TheAwesomeAll to build town cred.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2011 16:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
youre timings were pretty unfortunate, why did you vote xkcd if you suspected he was DT?
Treadmill once again attacked by TheAwesomeAll
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Sorry, one of the posts above, I was referring to Treadmill, actually meant to say Vain
+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2011 09:31 35spike1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 00:06 Kurumi wrote:THE PLAN Hello Townies! Planning ahead our play is a really good way to get on the right track. I want to make some points for us to follow. - We shall not accept lurking. Active lurking (not posting but responding almost immediately to any sort of attack) is treated as scummy and will be punished.
- We shall not accept posters who do not express their feelings about players, are extremely cautious and have vague opinions about everything.
- We shall not accept people jumping on bandwagons without good explanation. Saying:
"They have already pointed that out"
"They seem scummy to me"
QUOTE: Player X is scum because Y,Z /QUOTE "I agree"
Is NOT enough!
- We shall not accept people who post without substance just to appear they contribute.
"Bandwagonner Johnny is scummish, because noone would jump on such bandwagon without good evidence. The lynch of Scum Joe wouldn't help, his posting thus far was good.
(Notice lack of expressing thoughts,those are empty statements,without anything linking person talking to the case,there's no "I think" "He is good lynch because of his errors like here: *insert post*" "His posting was good because here: *insert post* he tried to pressure Dianne the Lurker and after it I think Dianne painted herself as scum."
- We shall not accept people who bring down every plan,try to silence discussion and divert attention without strong evidence on someone else.
Feel free to add something to that list. I hope it is good enough for us to catch scum and hopefully get it lynched. What do you mean by "We shall not accept...". Are we going to insta-lynch people for it, or just pressure them? Otherwise, it's all just basics. @ Vain, where you have you been? I'm sure you're completely happy that Grush is under fire atm but if you don't speak up, you'll be next. This would be a good place for you to start I WILL NOT ACCEPT LURKERS
Again, Vain confirmed as town.
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On June 14 2011 04:00 Kurumi wrote:
Alderan
Blackone
Aprudds
Munk-E
Are our main suspect list,right? I will take care of Blackone and Aprudds,brb. We need to narrow that thing to 2-3 suspects.
Alderan can be taken off due to 35spike1 attacking him. heist should still be on though, especially after his wall-of-text defense of iGrok early on in the game.
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At this point, I would recommend using at least 1 vig shot (if we have any) on whoever you believe is most suspicious out of this list. It will help us reduce our list of suspects for tomorrow and also give us more to analyze. There's still 17 town left at this point, and mafia only have 1 KP per night.
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Yea, I've gotta agree with TranceStorm, it's looking like Blackone and Aprudds are the last two mafia.
Feel free to gg if I'm right 
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Honestly, this game is pretty much over. I expect the 2nd mafioso to just get mod-killed before we even find him.
It's time to GG
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GG, thanks Mods for hosting this game. My 1st one, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Sucks there were so many mod kills, but what can you do.
I would also be curious to see the mafia thread, esp. I wanna see iGrok's reaction to getting accused/getting lynched lol
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