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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 09 2011 20:58 GMT
#984
On June 10 2011 05:02 Jackal58 wrote:
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On June 10 2011 04:50 supersoft wrote:
haha, since i believe that both iGrok and amazinxdc are scum, it'll be super interesting to see who voted last ;-)

Might be me. I haven't convinced myself that either are town or either are scum. I'm leaning more towards Jimboo but I haven't made up my mind there either.


Since you were terribly wrong with you last accusation, that's ok. But let me tell you, if iGrok is innocent, you will probably be the next potential GF.

On June 10 2011 05:32 grush57 wrote:
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On June 10 2011 05:12 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:05 blackone wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:47 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:44 blackone wrote:
##Vote: amazingxkcd

You gotta go far,kid.
Not.
Guess one bullet between Your puny little coward eyes will teach You something?

I'd love to answer you, but I'm not exactly sure what you're accusing me of. Or what I need to be teached.

Joining on bandwagon without explanation,Puny Rat.

You didn't say that to the people who joined on the iGrok bandwagon without explanation.


What's the goal of your post? seriously, are you feared that you could be the next? Why does it bother you, if Kurumi pressures ppl that don't deliver an explanation for their votes?

On June 10 2011 05:40 Kurumi wrote:
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On June 10 2011 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:23 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:21 blackone wrote:
I have nothing new to contribute to the accusations against amazingxkcd and I don't see the need for making a post with "hey guys, just so you know, gonna vote amazingxkcd now".

Thanks,I won't even regret shooting Your puny scum face.


Both players have pretty evidence leading to believe they are both scum iGrok may be a higher priority for some but i don't see why you want to jump down this guys throat for picking one of the two Scum

Because we can't allow scum to blend in any bandwagon. It is really easy to bus and take credit for it "I was on the right side of the lynch". Everyone suspicious who jumps on bandwagon needs to get called out and pressured.


exactly. Scum wants to bandwagon quietly, when it's already too late to shift the process.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 09 2011 21:09 GMT
#986
On June 10 2011 05:30 Pyo wrote:
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On June 10 2011 04:50 supersoft wrote:
haha, since i believe that both iGrok and amazinxdc are scum, it'll be super interesting to see who voted last ;-)


Hmm, so if the lynch target doesn't end up voting (and gets modkilled), does the next highest voting get lynched?


interesting question. if the lynch target doesn't end up voting (and gets modkilled), does the next highest voting get lynched?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 10 2011 04:50 GMT
#1066
you guys just suck. when i went to bed iGork was leading the votes.
then this arrogant idiot jackal came along talking shit + iGork kept QQing... and all of the sudden you fools lynch the DT. nice!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 10 2011 04:55 GMT
#1067
good for us the mods counted the votes wrongly ;-) amazing isn't dead. iGork is.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 10 2011 05:07 GMT
#1069
On June 10 2011 03:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Vote Tally:

iGrok 10
Pyo
Gtrsrs
Sprungjeezy
Kurumi
Supersoft
omgCRAZY
Xedat
Kairo
monsterDrakar
TranceStorm

Amazingxkcd 8
Treadmill
grush57
Xedat
Kairo
Teamsolid
Impervious
Cherubael
Alderan
CjrNinja
35spike1

Jackal58 1
Amazingxkcd

Jimbooo 1
Heist

iGrok is leading the lynch with 10 votes. A little over 9 hours remain.


it was counted at first. You can't just uncount, if you first counted it. How should Xedat know, that in the final post it won't count?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 10 2011 05:29 GMT
#1079
On June 10 2011 14:21 aprudds wrote:
XKCD-13
Treadmill
grush57
teamsolid
Impervious
cherubael
Alderan
35spike1
TheAwesomeAll
blackone
aprudds
iGrok
Munk-E
Senj

iGrok-11
Pyo
gtrsrs
Sprungjeezy
Kurumi
supersoft
CjrNinja
omgCRAZY
Xedat
Kairo
Drazerk
freeloader625

Did a recount, can someone check it?


yes it's wrong:

igork

1 Pyo
2 gtrsrs
3 Sprungjeezy
4 Kurumi
5 supersoft
6 CjrNinja
7 omgCRAZY
8 Xedat
9 Kairo
10 monsterDrakar
11 TranceStorm
12 Drazerk
13 reeloader625

amazing

1 Treadmill
2 grush57
3 Impervious
4 cherubael
5 Alderan
6 35spike1
7 TheAwesomeAll
8 blackone
9 aprudds
10 iGrok
11 Munk-E
12 Senj
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 10 2011 09:57 GMT
#1112
i will burst out all my thoughts a second before the night finishes.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 10 2011 14:18 GMT
#1144
On June 10 2011 22:18 teamsolid wrote:
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On June 10 2011 22:00 Jackal58 wrote:
If you are a vigilante put your gun away. We may very well need you later in the game.

Are you trying to save yourself?

Ever since you've got painted as the next target at the top of the list.


what list are you talking about?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 11 2011 09:10 GMT
#1198
On June 11 2011 16:37 gtrsrs wrote:
scratch that. i think the case against Vain is actually stronger and more well-analyzed and more people feel that he is mafia than grush57. gonna go ahead and pressure ##vote: Vain instead


Vain didn't vote against amazinxdc.
iGrok was too valuable as GF for the mafia. They probably all voted against amazinxdc. therefor we have to kill these obvious scums from first.

my suggestion is either TheAwesomeAll or aprudds just by their votingbehaviour. I'll go through their posts later, maybe someone could help me out there a little.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 11 2011 09:25 GMT
#1199
also this guy is very suspicious to me cherubael
I'm going to vote for him.


On June 11 2011 11:36 Pyo wrote:
I was going to do a post by post analysis of everyone that didn't vote for iGrok, but I'm just too lazy and only got through half of the list. Here are my analyses on some of them in case I die tonight. Nothing super conclusive here, but hopefully someone can use it to compare with their own notes:

Lurkers/low post counts:
Aril
+ Show Spoiler +
day 1 - kurumi
day 2 - jackal58

doesn't like voting for freeloader

defends accusation by cherubael

says he won't be on tomorrow and is voting ahead of time

makes a huge long list of random people - a ridiculous post combining "this will get me killed" and a huge long list of people, some of which are confirmed townies

sets up a script to parse posts - again says "yay for getting mafia killed because only a stupid confirmed townie would post this"

Munk-E
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1 - lafali
Day 2 - amazingxkcd

analysis of freeloader, lafali, aprudds, TheAwesomeAll

goes after lafali

long analysis of amazingxkcd

cherubael
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1 - freeloader
Day 2 - amazingxkcd

agrees with accusation of freeloader

again agreeing with accusation of freeloader

further aggression against freeloader; aggression toward Aril when he defends freeloader

aggression against 35spike

says case against xkcd is stronger than case against iGrok; aggression against supersoft; appologizes for inactivity

all around overly aggressive to everyone. I've sort of rethought my original position on him. he's probably not mafia (it would be odd for them to go around attacking everyone).

blackone
+ Show Spoiler +
Day 1 - freeloader
Day 2 - amazingxkcd

admonishes iGrok for haikus

analysis of freeloader; doesn't really reach any conclusion

points out that the voting for rookie is stupid

defends treadmill from kurumi accusation (don't remember context so can't interpret)

points out my errors in logic, says i might be scummy for trying to get the possibly existent 3rd target to keep quiet

confused by kurumi saying random shit

explaining vote for amazingxkcd after kurumi harasses him

more detail on why xkcd - says iGrok is probably GF, but case against xkcd is stronger


others:
Alderan
+ Show Spoiler +
day 1 - rookie
day 2 - xkcd

Defends freeloader as misguided town

again assess freeloader as just being new

explains that what kurumi does is not good

says that xkcd's first post is bad (stating the premise of the game)

points out xkcd's aggressive defense

list of suspicious people - first accusation of xkcd; also identifies grush as suspicious

formatting clarification

responds to iGrok's advice

declares his vote for xkcd; points out a contradiciton by iGrok

joke post

attempt to convince others not to vote for freeloader

welcomes impervious to the game

disagrees with TranceStorm

response to being called scum by jackal

isn't convinced rookie is blue-fishing

warns rookie that he'll get lynched if he doesn't defend himself

isn't convinced rookie is scum, but still votes for him for lack of a better target

disagrees with impervious about protecting experienced people under suspicion as mafia are likely to keep anyone under suspicion alive

suggests that if we have a medic that medic should decide for themselves who to protect

says that it is not jackal's fault that everyone bandwagoned rookie

again advocates lynching xkcd

advocates voting for xkcd, but keeping an eye on jackal and iGrok

explains vote for rookie as having missed the blue-tell

says xkcd should repost analysis of iGrok

"oh fuck" in response to xkcd flipping blue

"Wow..." in response to iGrok flipping GF

teamsolid
+ Show Spoiler +
day 1 - freeloader
day 2 - jackal58

thinks freeloader is suspicious, but warns against latching onto random posts and picking at tiny details; says mafia would likely be people that are lurking

suggests dt check for senj because of bandwagoning on rookie

comments on only 2 dying

praises GGQ's dying words; says only person we have solid evidence on is xkcd. Acknowledges that iGrok could be GF, but would be a big loss to town if he was town; thinks mafia would be lurking

seconds impervious's defense of iGrok (later post says he meant to quote heist's defense of iGrok); says that he doesn't think that any of iGrok's posts are suspicious. (CONTRADICTION: if they aren't suspicious, why do you acknowledge that iGrok could be GF).

brings up Ver's guide; says xkcd's post was good and analyzed people well; says he doesn't think xkcd is mafia anymore because why would mafia waste time making epic long postl decides to look into jackal more

further defends xkcd; points out that some think xkcd is DT

says a jackal post is scummy, defends xkcd, votes for jackal because he thinks xkcd is DT

says he was right about xkcd being DT (good read btw - I actually missed the discussion on xkcd possibly being a DT)

says jackal is top of his list; suspicious of Sprungjeezy, me, 35spike for "discrediting" xkcd; says later votes for xkcd are suspicious if iGrok flips GF

says I suck ;(

responds to me wondering why xkcd didn't save himself (turns out he shouldn't have had to, but w/e)

senj
+ Show Spoiler +
day 1 - rookie44
day 2 - amazingxkcd

defends freeloader

defends iGrok because iGrok is the only one to provide analysis so far

is suspicious of Jimbooo because of arguments brought up by TranceStorm

bandwagons on rookie after Jackal's misread

defends his rookie vote timing (given that xkcd is blue, i guess it could be a coincidence)

defends voting for rookie

apologizes for inactivity

long analysis post about Jimbooo and him being indecisive about voting during day 1, but doesn't explicitly accuse him but points out his indecision - ironic given that the post itself is him being indecisive.

pointing out that Jimbooo has disappeared from TL

responds to Kurumi asking if we should vigi shoot grush

responds to kurumi and TranceStorm

says he is still voting for Jimbooo, but is worried that he'll get modkilled so will analyze xkcd and iGrok

finds it weird that both iGrok and xkcd defend themselves; notices a slight contradiction between iGroks's statements; but as of this point it looks as if an iGrok lynch is inevitable

complains about tdAdonis's lack of posting.

encourages xkcd to defend himself

explains why he is voting for xkcd - "His day 1 activity, especially the first post and then several after attacking others for making fluff first posts are my basis here"

"Wow. I couldn't have been more wrong about anyone this game." Probably refering to all three of his accusees (rookie, jimbooo, xkcd)

heist
+ Show Spoiler +
day 1 - amazingxkcd
day 2 - Jimbooo

thinks freeloader's last two posts were suspicious

confusion about rolecounts

confusion cleared up

justifies making an inactives list

diverts attention away from iGrok toward grush57; analyzes grush's posting history to be mostly one-liners

advises people who voted for freeloader to reconsider; pushes going after lurkers; says grush, supersoft, lafali, amazingxkcd, and gtrsrs are suspicious. Says there are two strategies for how town should vote day 1 - doesn't make much sense

posts vote counts and wants to know why people voted for monstrerDrakar and Drazerk

criticizes supersoft's arbitrary vote. wants to get supersoft's read on the other person who voted monsterDrakar (Xedat)

"mafia will do whatever it takes to seem like a townie"

bad formatting making a quoted post look like his own; admonishing xkcd for being defensive and casting suspicioun on everyone and bandwagoning drazerk; says xkcd and rookie have similar chances of being scum

clarifies formating from previous post

really doesn't want people voting freeloader; really going after xkcd

noticed lafali unvoting freeloader after bandwagon started to change; noticed jimbooo did the same thing; accuses jimbooo, suggests killing xkcd as well.

declares that he's gunning for jimbooo

his expreience

defense that iGrok can't be GF because mafia wouldn't kill off a townie supporter of the GF (ignores the fact that iGrok had heat on him, so it was perfectly reasonable to try to establish cred)

says person who was hit should acknowledge that they were hit and survived.

long defense of iGrok. Seems like he's going really far out of his way to defend him.

it's clear heist really doesn't like me.

says kurumi is probably town given that xkcd flipped blue

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 11 2011 17:46 GMT
#1227
On June 12 2011 00:01 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:10 supersoft wrote:
Vain didn't vote against amazinxdc.
iGrok was too valuable as GF for the mafia. They probably all voted against amazinxdc. therefor we have to kill these obvious scums from first.


while the bolded part is true, you're insinuating that vain voted against iGrok, which is also not true. he voted to kill Jackal, which means we can't ignore him completely.


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On June 11 2011 18:10 supersoft wrote:
my suggestion is either TheAwesomeAll or aprudds just by their votingbehaviour. I'll go through their posts later, maybe someone could help me out there a little.


i think it would be unwise to split our attention amongst several possible candidates and instead focus on the two LIKELY candidates for lynch.

something's a bit fishy about this post. noted.


feel free to note whatever you want.

Mafia lost their GF just so barely, that i don't think, that any mafioso didn't try to get amazingxdc lynched instead. They could have saved iGrok, and the game would have been pretty tough for town.
That's my reason, why I think Vain is not the best choice for todays lynch.

my primarysuspects are cherubael, grush57, TheAwesomeAll and aprudds. All voted amazingxdc and in the first round all of them voted for obvious townies. + All of them defended iGrok and attacked amazingxdc. + All of them made only useless posts.



supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 11 2011 17:47 GMT
#1228
On June 12 2011 02:44 Kurumi wrote:
Could someone elaborate why Pyo is cleared?


he was the first person who voted iGork. Why should mafia start a potential bandwagonlynch of their GF?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#1246
On June 12 2011 04:24 grush57 wrote:
Alright, Time to get Serious, the most suspicous people right now are me(:O), aprudds, Treadmill, and Vain.

First off, Aprudds.

Looking throughout his posts, he had no analysis, 90% of it saying nothing or saying ovbious things and restating what others said. All 1 or 2 liners, he is basically what I was doing.
Scum? Probably, not 100% sure so would be best as a dt check/vig.

Second, Treadmill.

His explanations on why he thought xcd was scum. Then, his defence and explanation about him being "pals" with iGrok and thinking xcd was scum.After that, saying gtsrs not to ask questions? And later saying only 8 mafia. Facepalming for lynching xcd. More about the wrong vote count, and then saying that xcd probably checked Kurumi,(which I think can all be agreed upon is true).
And that was all which was recent. Before, he was defending iGrok, which was all wrong and saying why he thinks xcd is scum.
Is he scum? I'm not really sure. I mean sure he was wrong about iGrok and xcd, but a lot of us made that mistake too, and atleast Treadmill provided explanations and didn't lurk like a lot of us. So, I think he is townie.(Maybe Vet)

Third, Vain.

Alright, so he is pretty much avoiding mafia. Took me forever to find his profile for post history. But, he was posting in various other threads in TL. Latest post was 1000 something and before was 600 and then 500 posts in the XL thread. The latest post was him stating what happened basically and saying Kurumi is town(which i agree with) and about jackal defending lafali(intentionally or not). Saying Jackal or iGrok have to be mafia(which was right), explained everything etc. Not a scummy post at all. Later post.. says crap, shouldn't of voted rookie, lost all medics. Other post... Agreeing with Impervious about jackal being mafia... analyzing rookie, saying he spams and is scummy, anazlyses post by post. wasn't sure about iGrok being town or mafia, and questioning Kurmi being town.
Scum? Well, he is/was avoiding the heat from everyone else, but all his posts are town like and include analysis, and it looks like they were all right. But then again, if he is scum he would know exactly who would be town/mafia. Would probably good for a DT check.

Me?

Well, all my posts have been 1-2 liner posts that say absolutely nothing and are verry scummish, especially for not explaining my votes, and contradicting myself. And yes gtsrs, I am now scrambling to save myself, just like anyone else would. First time for an actual towny post, but could be result of my noobiness. Sorry for my posts before, and I'll try to act my role from now on. The choice is up to you if you think I'm town based on this post and my posts or if I'm scum trying to save myself. I hope this satisfies all of you who wanted me to post something that contributes, and I hope you make the right choice of killing de scummz.

Man, I feel accomplished writing all this(lol) but I hope this is good enough, because It doesn't feel up to par to the rest of your's.



hahaha, so everyone is innocent on that list? please! you don't have to save your scumbuddys. But thank you very much for that list!
We aren't stupid.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#1249
it's colorful?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 11 2011 23:36 GMT
#1251
On June 12 2011 08:31 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 08:01 Kurumi wrote:
On June 12 2011 07:46 aprudds wrote:
I have no intention on filling it with 5 posts in a row -_-.

Since You were here(or are) why You didn't post anything helpful?
People,what do You think about my Plan?
The Plan

Your plan isn't really a plan, but more of a set of guidelines that is mostly common sense in the first place. There isn't much to say other then yes it's reasonable.

As for not posting anything helpful, I look at the facts and analysis, make my judgments, point out faulty logic, and post my thoughts. I am open to any suggestions and criticisms but you will need to be more specific then "be more useful."

Personally I don't find your posting style to be very constructive; it clutters up the thread leading to people not wanting to read or listen to you. You need to work on clarity and conciseness within your posts. That being said there has been an improvement in your posting quality which I thank you for.



lol, you and grush, you two are so obviously scum.
Now you try to be serious and talk something smart etc. - Acting as if everything is normal and giving some nice advices isn't enough. Neither one of you even tryed to convince us, that someone other than you is guilty.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2011 13:59 GMT
#1265
okay we need a statement from treadmill/Grush. This information changes everything.

Treadmill is probably innocent. He was the first who voted on amazingxdc, so his vote wasn't supposed to start a conter-bandwagon to the iGrokthing.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 13 2011 04:59 GMT
#1324
2 mafioso and 18 townies
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 14 2011 05:18 GMT
#1366
when does the night end? it's now 25 hours
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 14 2011 07:52 GMT
#1374
mhm alderan and munk-E should be todays target. sadly i'll write an exam at 7/16... until then i can't contribute too much...
i also think that theblackone is an idiot, but he's town.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 15 2011 12:09 GMT
#1390
there is probably no vigi left over...
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