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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 09 2013 11:18 GMT
#681
On August 08 2013 06:37 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, another crazy voting mechanic: Inverse Majority. You may vote for as many people as you like each day, voting for each person a maximum of once. If you do not have a majority of people voting for you, you die. Any number of people may die each day. If there are less than 3 (or some other appropriate number) of town aligned players alive, town loses. You may not unvote, because that would make the host's life a nightmare.


I like this! Do it do it do it
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 09 2013 13:27 GMT
#682
On August 09 2013 20:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 06:37 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, another crazy voting mechanic: Inverse Majority. You may vote for as many people as you like each day, voting for each person a maximum of once. If you do not have a majority of people voting for you, you die. Any number of people may die each day. If there are less than 3 (or some other appropriate number) of town aligned players alive, town loses. You may not unvote, because that would make the host's life a nightmare.


I like this! Do it do it do it


Is this the same as "You can vote for as many people as you want, if anyone has a majority, they die", since one is the inverse of the other I guess
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
August 10 2013 00:38 GMT
#683
On August 09 2013 22:27 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 20:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 08 2013 06:37 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, another crazy voting mechanic: Inverse Majority. You may vote for as many people as you like each day, voting for each person a maximum of once. If you do not have a majority of people voting for you, you die. Any number of people may die each day. If there are less than 3 (or some other appropriate number) of town aligned players alive, town loses. You may not unvote, because that would make the host's life a nightmare.


I like this! Do it do it do it


Is this the same as "You can vote for as many people as you want, if anyone has a majority, they die", since one is the inverse of the other I guess


Well, it's slightly different, as it punishes lurkers more this way. Instead of convincing people NOT to vote for you, you have to convince people TO vote for you. People in not in the thread simply can't do this.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 10 2013 08:30 GMT
#684
Gotcha, interesting mechanic..
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 15 2013 13:19 GMT
#685
Puppeteer Mafia

7 Town vs 2 Mafia, all smurf accounts

The puppeteer (who requests the role privately pre-game) controls the accounts of both mafia players.

Think someone could pull it off?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 15 2013 13:22 GMT
#686
God that sounds amazing and awful to do
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 15 2013 13:28 GMT
#687
I think I could have a good go at pulling it off.

Whether I'd want to is another matter entirely :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 14:05:47
October 15 2013 14:05 GMT
#688
Lol I always feel like you're on the verge of breaking down when managing ONE scum account.
edit: Although I guess there's no micro managing other scum players so there's that
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2013 14:10 GMT
#689
I somehow have a feeling Risen would be the best guy in this Schizophrenia mafia. :p
table for two on a tv tray
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#690
Hahahahahahaha I shit you not I was thinking about a game where people controlled two accounts. It was brought on by listening to + Show Spoiler +
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 15 2013 15:18 GMT
#691
Maybe kitaman, he's shown he can fabricate conversations all by himself
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
October 15 2013 17:00 GMT
#692
Yeah, he'd instantly get caught basically. Just tell everybody to make a gigantic wall of text at the same time. The ones that spend the most time doing so are the 2 scum accounts (since the guy has to make 1 wall of text at a time).

At least that's what I'd tell everybody to do if I was town. Or just force people to have conversations, even if it's about anything at all (like which ice cream is better, zabaione, mint with chips, or dulce de leche; I can catch scum with that conversation alone ).
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 15 2013 17:40 GMT
#693
On October 16 2013 02:00 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah, he'd instantly get caught basically. Just tell everybody to make a gigantic wall of text at the same time. The ones that spend the most time doing so are the 2 scum accounts (since the guy has to make 1 wall of text at a time).


That's assuming that you can get 9 players in the thread during the same five minute period, which almost certainly isn't going to happen. Even if everyone was around, I don't think that would work perfectly.

As for conversations, they may be time intensive, but assuming time is not a factor for the player who volunteers, I think it's possible to get through.

Availability during certain times of the day may become an issue if you can start to notice a pattern, but in a game that is relatively short I think it can be overlooked if you are relatively active on both accounts.

Accidentally posting under the wrong account has potential to ruin the game however.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 03:05:15
October 16 2013 03:04 GMT
#694
You have like 3 days to do that (or whatever didn't read OP lol). You can make people "post in bulk" in chunks each time. 2-3 players all post with each other, you analize that shit (who are surely not based on the same account, etc). Then you have different 2-3 people do the same. Etc you keep going until you have a network of connections and you could (theoretically) logically conclude what the scumteam is.
You can alsostrike out scumteams that way. If you think 2 guys are the scum, force them to be the ones talking and shit to each other. If at least one of them is town he'll try his hardest to, and will convince you he's not with the same account as the other guy. If both are scum he'll most likely fail, since I doubt anybody here is an expert ventriloquist that has a half second reaction time.
Do this day by day, and you can solve the game with like 0 scumhunting.

Also, good luck faking behaviour. The moment you see 2 different people say "dear" you instantly catch puppeteer marv, whether marv is the bestest scum ever or not. Same with others.

This game seems stacked heavily against the scum/puppeteer

EDIT: Wut, I thought we were talking about a game that was going on lol. Forgot this is the TL Idea Factory thread
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 16 2013 03:41 GMT
#695
I dunno man gonzaw. Scum can have devious minds.
No gg, No skill.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
October 16 2013 04:46 GMT
#696
I nominate Kita or Risen
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 16 2013 09:19 GMT
#697
On October 16 2013 12:04 gonzaw wrote:

Also, good luck faking behaviour. The moment you see 2 different people say "dear" you instantly catch puppeteer marv, whether marv is the bestest scum ever or not. Same with others.



I'm well aware of my own posting tells you know
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 09:33:23
October 16 2013 09:32 GMT
#698
On October 16 2013 18:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 12:04 gonzaw wrote:

Also, good luck faking behaviour. The moment you see 2 different people say "dear" you instantly catch puppeteer marv, whether marv is the bestest scum ever or not. Same with others.



I'm well aware of my own posting tells you know


So you are claiming these puppet slips were deliberate?
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2013 07:08 gonzaw wrote:
that was when he saw the bartender.
Dear God!

he fell in love instantly

they started talking, they spend good time together
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 01 2013 06:39 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 06:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Dear mafia,
Just a reminder:

The Church
You win when all Town forces are dead.

It's impossible for me to be a serial killer.


Why are you speaking to them in thread? Weren't you communicating with them secretly?
Also you might as well just say "Dear austin" by this point, wouldn't you?
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 29 2013 02:30 gonzaw wrote:
EBWOP:

Show nested quote +

Disclaimer: I'm assuming there are either 4 scum and 1 3P, or 4 scum. If it's not actually like that the above options may differ....and if it's not actually like that fuck the system dear god


If option 1 is the true case...I don't know if there is only just 3 scum and 1 3P, in which case only 1 of austin/Xata is scum.
Discuss


Also while you are aware of the posting tells you know about are you aware of the posting tells you don't know about?

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 16 2013 09:39 GMT
#699
Got me on all counts :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
October 16 2013 10:15 GMT
#700
It doesn't sound that difficult if someone can do both high interval concise posts and some semi-active chunk-posting at the same time. Posting style would essentially come down to writing it like a character in a story. Then it comes down to practicing a character's voice out of game first.

If you're just doing it for the sake of a single Mafia game, you're unlikely to do it perfectly, but if you've had a lot of practice with one character beforehand, you're never going to break voice.

Arguably a lot of authors write most characters the same when it comes to sentence structure and the more subtle aspects of word choice and idiosyncracies, yes, and maybe if people have such a small player pool to look at they would be able to make connections and pattern reads over time. But I'm sure some people could handle two accounts successfully, since if you've had long practice with a character, you will learn an emotional range and logic system completely unlike your own.

It's one of the things I look for in Mafia, since what people as scum essentially have to do is write a character as much like themselves as possible, but not quite.

By the way, if you force people to post at the same time, or to each other, what makes you think they won't set themselves up to look like a much slower typer on one than the other? The variance is still going to be in the normal range pretty much, since very few people actually sit and do minute-to-minute exchanges.

I'm not saying I could do it, by the way; I don't have the speed for it even on a good day, I think
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