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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 07 2012 15:26 GMT
#441
You're going to need to cohost a game and get a check of approval before you can host.

Setup looks ok, decent flavor.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 16:04:19
August 07 2012 15:43 GMT
#442
I do not think Bomb artist and Tactical Air Controller are good roles. The point of medics is to prevent mafia from immediately killing all the good players and the presence of these roles will basically make medics useless or they will at least be forced to protect sub-optimal targets. I guess the bomb artist will force the other mafia team to target lower profile players, but KGB can still kill whoever they want unless medics take a huge risk. Each mafia team having only 1 normal KP helps, but I'm still not a fan.

There is also potentially huge variance as bomb artist might kill multiple blues and even other mafia every night.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 16:18 GMT
#443
On August 08 2012 00:43 syllogism wrote:
I do not think Bomb artist and Tactical Air Controller are good roles. The point of medics is to prevent mafia from immediately killing all the good players and the presence of these roles will basically make medics useless or they will at least be forced to protect sub-optimal targets. I guess the bomb artist will force the other mafia team to target lower profile players, but KGB can still kill whoever they want unless medics take a huge risk. Each mafia team having only 1 normal KP helps, but I'm still not a fan.

There is also potentially huge variance as bomb artist might kill multiple blues and even other mafia every night.


Ah, I think I should have been clearer then--the Bomb Artist is a 1-shot deal. Once the bomb is used up, he becomes a normal goon.
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 16:24 GMT
#444
On August 08 2012 00:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would be interested in co-hosting it if you do not mind me dabbling as first time host/co-host.


Sounds great. I'll put up the thread shortly.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 16:28:19
August 07 2012 16:27 GMT
#445
On August 08 2012 01:24 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 00:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would be interested in co-hosting it if you do not mind me dabbling as first time host/co-host.


Sounds great. I'll put up the thread shortly.

Do you even read notice the sticky threads?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 07 2012 16:28 GMT
#446
On August 08 2012 01:27 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 01:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would be interested in co-hosting it if you do not mind me dabbling as first time host/co-host.


Sounds great. I'll put up the thread shortly.

Do you even read notice the sticky threads?


or even easier, your last post on this very page lol
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 07 2012 16:29 GMT
#447
On August 08 2012 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 01:27 iGrok wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would be interested in co-hosting it if you do not mind me dabbling as first time host/co-host.


Sounds great. I'll put up the thread shortly.

Do you even read notice the sticky threads?


or even easier, your last post on this very page lol

I know, right?
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 16:36 GMT
#448
On August 08 2012 01:29 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:27 iGrok wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would be interested in co-hosting it if you do not mind me dabbling as first time host/co-host.


Sounds great. I'll put up the thread shortly.

Do you even read notice the sticky threads?


or even easier, your last post on this very page lol

I know, right?


I'm sorry, am I doing something wrong?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 16:39:18
August 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#449
On August 08 2012 01:36 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 01:29 iGrok wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:27 iGrok wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would be interested in co-hosting it if you do not mind me dabbling as first time host/co-host.


Sounds great. I'll put up the thread shortly.

Do you even read notice the sticky threads?


or even easier, your last post on this very page lol

I know, right?


I'm sorry, am I doing something wrong?

Go read the Active Games thread. Carefully.

And while you're at it, probably the other sticky threads as well.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#450
you are supposed to be a co-host first then get approval for your hosting prowess before being allowd to host Read iGrok
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 16:38:33
August 07 2012 16:37 GMT
#451
On August 08 2012 01:36 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 01:29 iGrok wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:27 iGrok wrote:
On August 08 2012 01:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On August 08 2012 00:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would be interested in co-hosting it if you do not mind me dabbling as first time host/co-host.


Sounds great. I'll put up the thread shortly.

Do you even read notice the sticky threads?


or even easier, your last post on this very page lol

I know, right?


I'm sorry, am I doing something wrong?


In the same sense that we encourage newbies to play newbie games before playing in regular games, we require hosts to co-host a game and then get permission before hosting. Also, games only come out of the hosting queue in order and in a timely fashion so we don't have periods with explosions of games hosted or no games hosted.

E: ah! iGrok with the ultimate ninja
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 16:41:57
August 07 2012 16:41 GMT
#452
@Blazinghand:
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 16:42 GMT
#453
Ah ok. Well, I guess we can shelve this for now, eager to help co-host a game.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 07 2012 16:47 GMT
#454
I'd consider allowing you to cohost one, if the players/mods are in approval of me hosting a mini
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
August 07 2012 17:10 GMT
#455
Okay, thanks! Prplhz mentioned that I'm being considered to help with flavor writing, so I could definitely help you in that regard.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 10 2012 15:46 GMT
#456
The Dwarf Fortress Mini Mafia gave me a cool idea. Why not have a game that actually plays out like Dwarf Fortress. The game would start out with 7 players, 1 of which is a vampire. There would be reserve players who would make up migrant waves (which can also contain vampires).Instead of days and nights you have seasons, each season the fortress lynches someone and the vampires get to drain some dwarves of blood. The host would also implement random events (goblin invasions, carp attacks etc.) to add more fun.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 10 2012 16:27 GMT
#457
That sounds pretty interesting. It might be difficult coordinating players to wait 72 hours after game starts to get into it, but I could see it going like this: 7 initial dwarves, of which at least one is a vampire, then a wave of 3 more that show up at the start of N1, then a wave of 3 more that arrive at the start of D2, and between the initial dwarves and the two waves there are 3 scum.

You'd definitely need to get everyone on the field by the start of D2, because a LOT of how town scumhunts is via voting history, and letting 1-2 scum get off scot-free from D1 is a huge advantage. Adding another investigative role for town, or giving them a slightly beefier blue setup, would definitely be necessary. Alternatively, you could add a rule that the scum can't kill N1 to balance out a couple scum being able to entirely dodge the D1 lynch.

When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
August 20 2012 19:54 GMT
#458
I am loathe to double post but I thought of something cool and was wondering what people would think of this mechanic. I think it's better thought through than the Artosis Pylon one.

Basically you have a typical game, but there are no blue roles. Instead, each day, in addition to voting who gets lynched, Town votes to grant their blue powers to people of their choice. In a medium-small game, maybe this would be like 3 blues, 1 lynch. So as a townie you'd cast 3 votes for various players you think deserve a blue role (but not yourself) and 1 vote for a player you'd like to lynch. The top 3 role-earners each secretly select a role from the role bucket to have for the night (such as 24 hour mason recruiter, 1-shot jailkeeper, 1-shot tracker, veteran, hatter etc) which of course they can claim, and use. They get their results back at the end of the night, and a mason or Senator of course doesn't get results back and keeps their power until the end of the next day, after which it dissipates.

The entire town setup would be VTs and Mafia would have maybe a framer or a godfather but not an RB since that would be too easy to aim. The number of blue powers would decrease as the number of townies decreased, until eventually there are no more blue powers.

Thoughts? Might be too hard if mafia couldn't snipe blue roles? I think it's kind of a cool mechanic but might be a bit unwieldy with the extra elections.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 20 2012 22:04 GMT
#459
I think the problem with something like that is that scum gets an auto blue snipe which will always cancel out one of the roles. Either that or all the blue pickers would choose vet and scum would be hard pressed to actually kill anyone. Also if the town happened to vote for 3 scum to get the roles scum can't kill a blue and it basically gives town three huge scum reads. Of course scum could fake this to waste a lynch. It's a set up that would have to be really carefully balanced to work well.
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 20 2012 22:05 GMT
#460
On August 21 2012 04:54 Blazinghand wrote:
I am loathe to double post but I thought of something cool and was wondering what people would think of this mechanic. I think it's better thought through than the Artosis Pylon one.

Basically you have a typical game, but there are no blue roles. Instead, each day, in addition to voting who gets lynched, Town votes to grant their blue powers to people of their choice. In a medium-small game, maybe this would be like 3 blues, 1 lynch. So as a townie you'd cast 3 votes for various players you think deserve a blue role (but not yourself) and 1 vote for a player you'd like to lynch. The top 3 role-earners each secretly select a role from the role bucket to have for the night (such as 24 hour mason recruiter, 1-shot jailkeeper, 1-shot tracker, veteran, hatter etc) which of course they can claim, and use. They get their results back at the end of the night, and a mason or Senator of course doesn't get results back and keeps their power until the end of the next day, after which it dissipates.

The entire town setup would be VTs and Mafia would have maybe a framer or a godfather but not an RB since that would be too easy to aim. The number of blue powers would decrease as the number of townies decreased, until eventually there are no more blue powers.

Thoughts? Might be too hard if mafia couldn't snipe blue roles? I think it's kind of a cool mechanic but might be a bit unwieldy with the extra elections.


Election Mafia

Not exactly what you described (People have roles) but pretty similar.
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