Can you clarify some of the rules for me? As far as I can tell as an sleeper agent you can never kill each other, is that correct? even if the votes goes:
3x agent1 2xagent2 1xtownie, the target will be townie? Also cell leader can use the message ability only once per game?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.

In the above situation, agent1 would be killed. Unless there is a tie, or only agent targets, the GF cannot switch the kill.

The GF has a rather active role this game: its his job to somehow alert his agents to the names of all the other agents, precisely so that they don't vote for each other.

However, we are making a slight change to the GF role. He will now be allowed to send one message at dawn and another at dusk.

Eiii

United States2566 Posts

April 24 2011 02:00 GMT

#67

GF's role is to let his agents know who their fellow agents are, but according to the rules he can't outright say the names or breadcrumb them, so it kind of sounds like he's not supposed to talk about the agents at all. What's considered a breadcrumb, then? If all the agents vote for agent 1 is saying 'you guys voted for an agent' a breadcrumb? Is taking words from an agent's posts to use as the night message a breadcrumb?

I suppose I'm just confused since it seems like the GF has to toe some mysterious line where anything past it is considered too easy to decipher. :S

Mr. Wiggles

Canada5894 Posts

April 24 2011 02:13 GMT

#68

So are the messages sent through the day/night posts, or are they sent through PM?

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

April 24 2011 02:32 GMT

#69

Here's chaoser's take on the no-crumb part:

i thought it was an interesting mechanic, cause then it's about the GF figuring out waysto tell his agents who is who without us knowing, through the messenges. If it's particularly clever and we don't catch on to it, then i'd applaud the GF for beign so smart and his agents for figuring it out

Looking at it more and more, I'm inclined to remove the breadcrumbing restriction from the messages. I'll listen to any public feedback though.

Messages are sent through PM as follows: GF pms me with message and recipient, I pm recipient with message.

EDIT: Bolded for emphasis.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

April 24 2011 02:58 GMT

#70

XXXVIII is over :D id appreciate it if you start it asap

Mr. Wiggles

Canada5894 Posts

April 24 2011 03:07 GMT

#71

Wait, so does he only get to send one message to one agent, one message to all the agents, or one message to each agent separately, once per evening/night?

Also, what's the restriction on five words, for example, can you send string of letters/numbers, like AHOJOSFZOBKFJAKBAJJKBKNO, like a cipher, and then send the key to solve it, or does that break the rule? Also, I'm assuming you can't actually send names (of ANY player), just breadcrumbs?

LSB

United States5171 Posts

April 24 2011 04:25 GMT

#72

/out
/in as replacement

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

April 24 2011 07:36 GMT

#73

Blue for super emphasis:

The crumbing in messages restriction has been removed. It was leading this game to be more like a themed-game, and less like a normal game with one (radically) different mechanic.

So to revise and clarify how GF and Agents work:

AGENTS: Do not know the names of ANY other RED players. Each night, they submit via pm to MYSELF AND CHAOSER the name of they player they think should be killed. Agents show up NOT TOWN to Investigations.

GF: Knows the names of all other RED names. always returns "Insufficient Information for Analysis". In the event of a TIE in voting, or if ALL nominations are agents, may cast tiebreaking vote. In the event of death, flips GF and a new GF is RNG'd between remaining Agents. May send a message consisting of 5 words or 20 characters to any agent at dawn and dusk of each day. Submit it like a normal action. The message can't contain the name of any player. The message is PM'd to both myself and chaoser. We will send it to the player you specify. Cute attempts to get around the "No Names" rule will result in the message being "lost". Feel free to crumb, just don't put the name (or any form of the name) in there. If all agents are dead, you may choose each kill.

MAFIA GENERAL RULES: Mafia wins when they outnumber Town and Town has no killing roles remaining.

OP will be updated to reflect this.

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

April 24 2011 07:37 GMT

#74

Oh, and we will start at 10:00pm EST the day that the now-empty slot is filled.

Eiii

United States2566 Posts

April 24 2011 08:08 GMT

#75

Oh, I thought the message would be broadcast to all agents! Hmm, that changes things...

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

April 24 2011 08:27 GMT

#76

/in

iGrok

United States5142 Posts

April 24 2011 09:04 GMT

#77

Very well, we will begin at 10:00 pm EST today. That's 11:00 am KST (TL time).

Roles will be pm'd to you by 9:00 pm. If there are any further clarification questions, ask now ^^