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On April 24 2011 10:25 bumatlarge wrote:gg finally lol, that was a lot of blues. I was kinda worried dr h would call me out when i claimed as the 3rd medic phew Mafia was really passive this game aside from GM and coag. You got a spice it up a bit guys, claim and suggest things before you get caught! I also kinda expected a lack of DTs when I saw NN but no millers 
There are members of the mafia team who did not talk to the team at all this game and refused to play period. Mafia was 3 members down till after gm/serejai/coag died, then 1 became more team oriented. Two never played.
There was a fair bit of stuff that went on via talks on irc between mafia and hosts that led to alot of bad blood after day 2. In which they almost gg'd out right then. I am proud to see the few ones who were left do as well as they did however.
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gg guys was definitely fun. Kita, chaoser, bum, barundar all played really well. Also I want to say sorry to GGQ 2nd night I debated for a long long time on who I should protect and I almost saved him thinking they might be targeting the less obvious people. But ended up just going the safe route and protecting bum.
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I might as well be the first to say this...
DRH WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU RUN FOR MAYOR WHEN YOUR A VET?! YOU ARE ALREADY SOAKING UP A KILL, LET SOMEBODY ELSE RUN
I was so angry when you killed kav I almost hit something, but I let it go. I'm not even angry anymore. Im actually glad I died night 1, saved me some ragin' in the thread.
But jesus christ I was angry.
DrH: All the love in the world man, no lie, no hard feelings, but its smarter to not run for mayor when you are already bulletproof.
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kitaman27
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On April 24 2011 11:01 Mig wrote:
gg guys was definitely fun. Kita, chaoser, bum, barundar all played really well. Also I want to say sorry to GGQ 2nd night I debated for a long long time on who I should protect and I almost saved him thinking they might be targeting the less obvious people. But ended up just going the safe route and protecting bum.
lol bum had 3 blues on him day 1. He's that pro.
Two of the three nights jaminz and I on were on the same person :p
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I think town was OP for having 2 cubedins.
But other than that gg. I'm sad about the amount of inactivity in this, but it was really easy to observe once I had died lol.
Yay, I won as town! Sort of.
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Why did mafia shoot me, whyyyyy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Also protact needed to shoot Eiii to complete my master plan, but it never did. 
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2 questions.
Which one of you nimrods shot me.
How did Proact and others manage to play under one name?
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On April 24 2011 12:30 Jackal58 wrote:
2 questions.
Which one of you nimrods shot me.
How did Proact and others manage to play under one name?
I shot the medic, so don't worry. :p
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The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit.
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you.
Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed.
EDIT: Huge thanks to BC for advising me thought, his advice and guidance kept me from messing up any worse than I did
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On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit.
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you.
Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed.
I had you and Coag both pegged. And then Proact totally fucked over my ability to proceed. I simply could not go along with a liar with 3rd party motivations.
Damnation he pissed me off. If he had picked anybody but Coag.
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On April 24 2011 12:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit.
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you.
Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed.
I had you and Coag both pegged. And then Proact totally fucked over my ability to proceed. I simply could not go along with a liar with 3rd party motivations. Damnation he pissed me off. If he had picked anybody but Coag.
Coag wanted me to lynch you if I got mayor and shoot you night one otherwise, I thought it a poor idea.
As far as allying with the assassin, I couldn't understand how any townie in his right mind could even think of it, it was just mindboggling that an assassin got *any* support, at all.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
I'm still kinda confused on how the pardoner ability was supposed to work. It said in the description the pardoner was not immune to lynch, but from how BrownBear described it, it sounds like it would be impossible to lynch the pardoner with his pardon in hand.
Just curious, why the dt claim? Did you have plans for it? Seems tough to pull off.
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On April 24 2011 12:49 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely. I'm still kinda confused on how the pardoner ability was supposed to work. It said in the description the pardoner was not immune to lynch, but from how BrownBear described it, it sounds like it would be impossible to lynch the pardoner with his pardon in hand. Just curious, why the dt claim? Did you have plans for it? Seems tough to pull off.
I needed to prove 100% protac was lying, and that seemed to me the only way I could "know" that was how DTs worked, and yes I had plans for the DT claim, including bussing one of our team members and proceeding to lead the town in circles.
Really though my only mildly successful plan was "clearing" AO by accusing him multiple times
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On April 24 2011 10:27 BrownBear wrote:
Qatol will be making a thread soon to discuss some of the... interesting things that happened this game. Those will be discussed when the thread is made, so I'll ask you guys to sit tight for a little bit longer.
I'll try to do this tomorrow. I have a really bad headache right now and I'm running a fever, so I really don't feel like doing this tonight.
If I have PMed you about protact and you haven't replied, please do so soon.
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On April 24 2011 12:48 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 12:42 Jackal58 wrote:On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit.
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you.
Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed.
I had you and Coag both pegged. And then Proact totally fucked over my ability to proceed. I simply could not go along with a liar with 3rd party motivations. Damnation he pissed me off. If he had picked anybody but Coag. Coag wanted me to lynch you if I got mayor and shoot you night one otherwise, I thought it a poor idea. As far as allying with the assassin, I couldn't understand how any townie in his right mind could even think of it, it was just mindboggling that an assassin got *any* support, at all.
I'd rather have an assassin in office and have control over his KP/check over a red. Simple as that
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On April 24 2011 12:53 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 12:48 GMarshal wrote:On April 24 2011 12:42 Jackal58 wrote:On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit.
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you.
Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed.
I had you and Coag both pegged. And then Proact totally fucked over my ability to proceed. I simply could not go along with a liar with 3rd party motivations. Damnation he pissed me off. If he had picked anybody but Coag. Coag wanted me to lynch you if I got mayor and shoot you night one otherwise, I thought it a poor idea. As far as allying with the assassin, I couldn't understand how any townie in his right mind could even think of it, it was just mindboggling that an assassin got *any* support, at all. I'd rather have an assassin in office and have control over his KP/check over a red. Simple as that
And this is where I disagree, you have no control over his KP or his check, he is going to use them however he damn well pleases, what are you going to do if he dosn't follow your orders? lynch him? Thats a wasted town kp which you *need* to use on scum, not on 100% guaranteed not mafia. Thats why I thought it was utter madness , you just ensured 3 kp are going to play out with no way of controlling them, more likely than not they'll end up hitting lurking blues.
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On April 24 2011 12:52 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 12:49 kitaman27 wrote:On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely. I'm still kinda confused on how the pardoner ability was supposed to work. It said in the description the pardoner was not immune to lynch, but from how BrownBear described it, it sounds like it would be impossible to lynch the pardoner with his pardon in hand. Just curious, why the dt claim? Did you have plans for it? Seems tough to pull off. I needed to prove 100% protac was lying, and that seemed to me the only way I could "know" that was how DTs worked, and yes I had plans for the DT claim, including bussing one of our team members and proceeding to lead the town in circles. Really though my only mildly successful plan was "clearing" AO by accusing him multiple times
You and AO had me pretty much completely convinced that he was a blue. With you accusing him and him defending me, I was pretty damn sure he was town aligned. I was so insanely surprised when I saw that he ended up killing kita.
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I thought your speech about morals and principles was extremely hilarious btw GM. But I see how you felt now that we all know what happened rofl. But still, "I'll nvr use my pardoner powers, NO I'LL USE IT HOWEVER I DAMN WELL PLEASE!". haha.
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On April 24 2011 12:56 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 12:53 chaoser wrote:On April 24 2011 12:48 GMarshal wrote:On April 24 2011 12:42 Jackal58 wrote:On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit.
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you.
Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed.
I had you and Coag both pegged. And then Proact totally fucked over my ability to proceed. I simply could not go along with a liar with 3rd party motivations. Damnation he pissed me off. If he had picked anybody but Coag. Coag wanted me to lynch you if I got mayor and shoot you night one otherwise, I thought it a poor idea. As far as allying with the assassin, I couldn't understand how any townie in his right mind could even think of it, it was just mindboggling that an assassin got *any* support, at all. I'd rather have an assassin in office and have control over his KP/check over a red. Simple as that And this is where I disagree, you have no control over his KP or his check, he is going to use them however he damn well pleases, what are you going to do if he dosn't follow your orders? lynch him? Thats a wasted town kp which you *need* to use on scum, not on 100% guaranteed not mafia. Thats why I thought it was utter madness , you just ensured 3 kp are going to play out with no way of controlling them, more likely than not they'll end up hitting lurking blues.
And I'm saying he would never do that because it would lead straight to his lynch aka him losing the game. Town knows he needs to survive to win and he knows he needs to help town to survive. If he's running and telling town he's assassin then we have mutual ambitions to a certain extent. He wants to win assassin game and so wouldn't betray town since we'd lynch him.
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On April 24 2011 13:02 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 12:56 GMarshal wrote:On April 24 2011 12:53 chaoser wrote:On April 24 2011 12:48 GMarshal wrote:On April 24 2011 12:42 Jackal58 wrote:On April 24 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:
The game was fun, my death day two kind of hurt the mafia, and having two modkills didn't help one bit.
Anyway, I dont mind the screwup with the pardoner, mistakes happen, the important part of it is that we learn from them. If its any consolation, I like this new pardoner quite a bit, and I'd like to see it in another game, its fun to have in there, although I'd prefer that it lynch the runner up rather than end the day entirely.
Also, awards to chaoser for having me pegged from the start, DropBear and AO for trying hard for me, which is not always easy in a situation as demoralizing as this my lynch seemed day two, and an award to bum for being a battle-medic, I was convinced you were a vet trying to get me to shoot you.
Either way gg wp. Its a shame my first run as a mafia team leader ended up with my team being crushed.
I had you and Coag both pegged. And then Proact totally fucked over my ability to proceed. I simply could not go along with a liar with 3rd party motivations. Damnation he pissed me off. If he had picked anybody but Coag. Coag wanted me to lynch you if I got mayor and shoot you night one otherwise, I thought it a poor idea. As far as allying with the assassin, I couldn't understand how any townie in his right mind could even think of it, it was just mindboggling that an assassin got *any* support, at all. I'd rather have an assassin in office and have control over his KP/check over a red. Simple as that And this is where I disagree, you have no control over his KP or his check, he is going to use them however he damn well pleases, what are you going to do if he dosn't follow your orders? lynch him? Thats a wasted town kp which you *need* to use on scum, not on 100% guaranteed not mafia. Thats why I thought it was utter madness , you just ensured 3 kp are going to play out with no way of controlling them, more likely than not they'll end up hitting lurking blues. And I'm saying he would never do that because it would lead straight to his lynch aka him losing the game. Town knows he needs to survive to win and he knows he needs to help town to survive. If he's running and telling town he's assassin then we have mutual ambitions to a certain extent. He wants to win assassin game and so wouldn't betray town since we'd lynch him.
The thing is, if he thinks he can win the assassin game with a hit, he's going to try to do it most likely. Then that means that if he misses, town is forced to lynch him, and you also get into a situation where he can blackmail town with the names of the BGs too. You can't really control him, you can just limit your risk. For example, if BGs got sniped, would he have still continued to help town?
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