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jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
April 24 2011 05:09 GMT
#3521
On April 24 2011 14:07 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:48 DropBear wrote:
Coag I never said you handed over a red list. By the blue list I mean this:

On April 16 2011 04:38 Coagulation wrote:
Scum BLUE Reads.

Protactinium - Confirmed DT bang bang MEDICS better Ptotect.

Lemonwalrus - good chance hes lurking blue.

kitaman27 - Has had a higher investment in this game than his usual playstyle.

Jackal58 - Hasnt tunneled a single time so hes clearly laying low this game. Might be assassin but he was pretty vocal about the other assassin being elected so that leaves blue.

CubEdIn - slight blue read on him. He came back into thread wanting blood so hes gonna be a good kill regardless to get the experienced players out of here.

bumAtLarge - Good analyzer but I think hes just a townie. Would be a good shot if you can stop him from catching scum.

LSB - Are we pretending your town still? ok you can be a blue again. (100$ says he cant resist all the role claims and claims super DT before im lynched)


Whether you were just fucking around or not, every single one of these people bar Protactinium was under consideration.


Will someone please tell me what the problem is here?


I think he's mad because it would mean our blues would have a good idea of who to protect/watch/track. However, mafia could anticipate that and hit other targets or something
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 24 2011 05:10 GMT
#3522
On April 24 2011 14:08 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 13:56 Coagulation wrote:
Wait can you please explain to me why you have a problem with me posting blue reads in thread?
whats the problem here?

Because they were legit. We actually tried to kill these people. Kita and bum already suspected each other to be blues going on their coordination in the first couple of days. It helped clear them and made things harder for everyone left.

That's enough from me for now, I want to watch the WeMade game. I'll be involved in the ban list discussion in the next few days. I also want to allow Qatol, BB and Meapak to say their bit.


LOL So you think that town is gonna take anything i say as truth when i flip red.

Your missing the big picture.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 05:16:56
April 24 2011 05:12 GMT
#3523
On April 24 2011 14:09 jaminz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 14:07 Coagulation wrote:
On April 24 2011 13:48 DropBear wrote:
Coag I never said you handed over a red list. By the blue list I mean this:

On April 16 2011 04:38 Coagulation wrote:
Scum BLUE Reads.

Protactinium - Confirmed DT bang bang MEDICS better Ptotect.

Lemonwalrus - good chance hes lurking blue.

kitaman27 - Has had a higher investment in this game than his usual playstyle.

Jackal58 - Hasnt tunneled a single time so hes clearly laying low this game. Might be assassin but he was pretty vocal about the other assassin being elected so that leaves blue.

CubEdIn - slight blue read on him. He came back into thread wanting blood so hes gonna be a good kill regardless to get the experienced players out of here.

bumAtLarge - Good analyzer but I think hes just a townie. Would be a good shot if you can stop him from catching scum.

LSB - Are we pretending your town still? ok you can be a blue again. (100$ says he cant resist all the role claims and claims super DT before im lynched)


Whether you were just fucking around or not, every single one of these people bar Protactinium was under consideration.


Will someone please tell me what the problem is here?


I think he's mad because it would mean our blues would have a good idea of who to protect/watch/track. However, mafia could anticipate that and hit other targets or something


Yeah im sure town is gonna rally around blue reads from a flipped scum as a confirmed town circle.
thats funny.

anyway the bottom line is there is no rule about being able to post blue reads as scum in thread. And for good reason. It would get pretty bad if people started to get modkilled for posting wifom and misinformation.
Im sorry your confused Dropbear but that blue list helped mafia more than it hurt mafia.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4404 Posts
April 24 2011 05:14 GMT
#3524
On April 24 2011 13:38 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
My entire plan of action was killed by Kita’s watching on M0nsterchef and follow-up claim. I should have fought against bum or DocH but I went after chaoser.


I dunno why you went after me out of all people. I'm pretty sure at that point Mr and Bum were pretty much cleared as townie and DrH was only suspected based on the fact that IF he was mafia, the mafia actually had a chance of winning so people were asking around about that.

Also, I don't think the vigis were that weak at all, they cleared the table of all our suspects, making the next few day's lynches completely free for new suspects. Had the vigis not shot then we probably would have wasted a few days on LSB and whatnot

I panicked lol. I completely forgot the possibility of DocH being able to visit people at night undetected, plus I read kita's claim post just before I had to leave to go to an exam. When I got back I wanted to respond quickly and didn't think my arguments through anywhere near enough

As for the vigis, you're right I probably should have waited to see a action list to make such a call. Serejai did get shot night 2 after all. Someone shot mig and aidnai the medics though and neither was us
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4404 Posts
April 24 2011 05:15 GMT
#3525
On April 24 2011 14:12 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 14:09 jaminz wrote:
On April 24 2011 14:07 Coagulation wrote:
On April 24 2011 13:48 DropBear wrote:
Coag I never said you handed over a red list. By the blue list I mean this:

On April 16 2011 04:38 Coagulation wrote:
Scum BLUE Reads.

Protactinium - Confirmed DT bang bang MEDICS better Ptotect.

Lemonwalrus - good chance hes lurking blue.

kitaman27 - Has had a higher investment in this game than his usual playstyle.

Jackal58 - Hasnt tunneled a single time so hes clearly laying low this game. Might be assassin but he was pretty vocal about the other assassin being elected so that leaves blue.

CubEdIn - slight blue read on him. He came back into thread wanting blood so hes gonna be a good kill regardless to get the experienced players out of here.

bumAtLarge - Good analyzer but I think hes just a townie. Would be a good shot if you can stop him from catching scum.

LSB - Are we pretending your town still? ok you can be a blue again. (100$ says he cant resist all the role claims and claims super DT before im lynched)


Whether you were just fucking around or not, every single one of these people bar Protactinium was under consideration.


Will someone please tell me what the problem is here?


I think he's mad because it would mean our blues would have a good idea of who to protect/watch/track. However, mafia could anticipate that and hit other targets or something


Yeah im sure town is gonna rally around blue reads from a flipped scum as a confirmed town circle.
thats funny.

Well they did in the end, didn't they!
Sucker for nostalgia
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 24 2011 05:17 GMT
#3526
well it had nothing to do with my post.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
April 24 2011 05:34 GMT
#3527
Bum - I thought you were the most dangerous townie and played really well.

jaminz- I felt your heart break when you called me out even though I was defending you the whole game. <3

DropBear - It was tough trying to figure out what to do after all the shit went down with GM and coag. I think we did a decent job with what we had and you had some good ideas yourself. Australia is where it's at.

Trance - It was good to have at least 3 people trying to play and throwing ideas back and forth. By this time we had an unusually agreeable mafia organization, it just didn't feel right because everyone was so polite, chill, and generally pleasant. I mean that in a nice way though.

GM - Thanks for pushing to get me lynched so hard. It probably helped me survive as long as I did with good town cred.

conversion - I just picked on you because you had some suspicious posts that could easily be taken as scummy.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 24 2011 05:48 GMT
#3528
On April 24 2011 14:34 AirbladeOrange wrote:
GM - Thanks for pushing to get me lynched so hard. It probably helped me survive as long as I did with good town cred.


I figured I'd either get you lynched before I died and then I'd be able to use it for town cred "see I've been trying to get him lynched since day 1, since when does mafia tunnel on teammates?" or I'd die before I got you killed and then you'd look good

In retrospect I'm glad I died first, I hate bussing teammates ^_^

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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 24 2011 05:55 GMT
#3529
That got him so much town cred...I was like...no way....
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
April 24 2011 06:05 GMT
#3530
@scum team
I think you would have gotten better off killing players that had a clue (bum/kita/chaoser and very late jaminz) than sniping blues. Yes blues are powerful, but without strong town leaders they can't get good checks or protections off, and lynches can be mislead. You should have killed those players before they became a threat, and dealt with the blue threat through more planned fake claims and lategame roleblocks + kills in my opinion.

Blue sniping can be demoralizing for the town, but you also hit a good amount of suspicious bored townies with what looked like a carpet bombing of the low posters. When I saw the hitlist early on, I thought we where dealing with an inexperienced mafia team, at least most of my suspicion against DrH dropped, because I know he hunts active town players relentlessly.

This is of course just my opinion and I'm sure other's differ .

Oh and I did absolutely nothing good except not getting lynched this game. Gief survivor role please lol.
Bartundar
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 06:10:12
April 24 2011 06:09 GMT
#3531
From the XXXVII game analysis:

2. Mafia cannot stand up to an organized town. I'd like to know about mafia's night kill strategy. It seems to me that the day 3/4/5 NKs were extremely weak. Major town analysts got away surviving in favor of killing a few no no names, some of who where suspicious. In this type of game, you do not let major town analysts get away with goading the town, even if they are momentarily incorrect about their suspects. The thing is, when a major town analyst is worng, mafia generally won't oppose them strongly. But its hard to pop up in strong opposition when that analyst suddenly changes his mind and votes for scum. Its really uncomfortable for mafia to pop their heads up to defend against a correct accusation when they haven't been doing so all along.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4404 Posts
April 24 2011 06:23 GMT
#3532
On April 24 2011 15:09 chaoser wrote:
From the XXXVII game analysis:

Show nested quote +
2. Mafia cannot stand up to an organized town. I'd like to know about mafia's night kill strategy. It seems to me that the day 3/4/5 NKs were extremely weak. Major town analysts got away surviving in favor of killing a few no no names, some of who where suspicious. In this type of game, you do not let major town analysts get away with goading the town, even if they are momentarily incorrect about their suspects. The thing is, when a major town analyst is worng, mafia generally won't oppose them strongly. But its hard to pop up in strong opposition when that analyst suddenly changes his mind and votes for scum. Its really uncomfortable for mafia to pop their heads up to defend against a correct accusation when they haven't been doing so all along.


I forgot about this writeup. I studied the one for XXX extensively. I guess it got proved correct again

I wanted to keep bum and kita alive to help take down DocH. It was a big mistake.

Also, TranceStorm was very much in favour of killing urashimakt and jaminz night 3, we should have listened to him
Sucker for nostalgia
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 06:29:11
April 24 2011 06:24 GMT
#3533
In my opinion you should have just let town mislynch jaminz. He is exactly the type of player that town would lynch over his actual check just because of the amount of suspicion against him.

Urishmakt hit a town with his bullet I think?

But whats done is done
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 06:28:30
April 24 2011 06:28 GMT
#3534
I suck
Bartundar
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 24 2011 06:29 GMT
#3535
DropBear: if you and Meapak do grudgematch, I want to cast it ^^
SUNSFANNED
jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
April 24 2011 06:31 GMT
#3536
I was kind of surprised at how much suspicion I raised by not posting. It wasn't even a strategy in this case, I was legitimately way behind in reading the thread and actually asked to be subbed out at one point haha. Luckily I got my shit together and stayed in, but damn that was close. Thanks to the mafia and everyone else for keeping me alive! Kind of bit you in the butt though AO ; )
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
The_Roist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States58 Posts
April 24 2011 06:42 GMT
#3537
I'll try to be more active the next time I play, GG.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
April 24 2011 06:46 GMT
#3538
On April 16 2011 14:04 aidnai wrote:
gg
EDIT: Hope it wasn't a damn vigi grr...
EDIT 2: Congrats eiii for slipping day 1 and somehow still winning?!

i had a premonition about this but i couldnt exactly say
vigis plz dont shoot me
now could i...

oh well
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 24 2011 06:59 GMT
#3539
On April 24 2011 13:25 DropBear wrote:
Congratulations to Eiii for winning the assassin game, despite your major slip. We took out Wiggles for you so you owe us


haha, that wasn't a slip! When I posted that, the assassins didn't even know how many assassins there were. It wasn't said in the assassin PM, and wasn't mentioned in the OP either-- I really did just confuse 'three banhammers' for 'three assassins'. After I posted that, BB sent out a PM to me (and probably the other assassins as well) confirming that there were three assassins

Anyway I just kind of lucked into a win. :S I'll take it though!
:3
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 07:05:09
April 24 2011 06:59 GMT
#3540
Can we hurry up and ban flamewheel ver and incog?

What I mean to say is we need to ban smurfing altogether
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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