EPTTL Mafia XXXVIII - Page 173
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jaminz
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 24 2011 03:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: because you're mafia and the roleblocker is dead and you're faking it to be consistent with your scumbuddy barundar's claims I really don't think barundar is mafia and that the last two are in these four players TranceStorm -> Very Inactive DarthThienAn -> very Inactive Conversion -> very Inactive ilovejonn I'd say it's conversion and TS. TS was against the proct election, using VERY poor logic and fearmongering while being extremely wishy washy There is always the possibility that he is a mafia pretending to be an assassin in order to win himself an elected position on the merits of the arguments he listed earlier. Fear of proct being mafia being spread here... But I'm not particularly inclined to this view because as of right now because that strategy would be exceedingly risky at the very beginning of the game. Backs out here... Of course, what should happen if he were to be elected, and both bodyguards were to die? The chances are slim of course, but the fact is that he could switch sides at critical moments (i.e. when he is one of the deciding votes between the mafia and town). Does it again... Oh and lastly, I don't think he would be able to 'ally with mafia' like he claims if he weren't elected since another assassin would take him out to further their own chances at victory. Backs out again... Then he is passive aggressive on DrH's election Personally, I think that Dr. H has been the most town to me because of his aggressive approach. I don't think any mafia would want to make that aggressive of a start at the beginning of a game - they'd rather appear more passive to the town. and then Dr. H's accusations seem a bit erratic and scattergun and may cause trouble later down the road Notice how he's not ok with Proct's potential problems down the road but he's totally ok with DrH's problems down the road. Hmmm Later on he goes back on his words about proct and writes Hmmm Proact, I haven't fully read through your entire post and I trust you as pro-town but I have a question. All of a sudden he trusts proct to be pro-town. And then he posts this gem during the time when every other mafia we've lynched thus far was trying to bus Serejai so that GM and Coag issue could be shelved for the day. On April 15 2011 08:31 TranceStorm wrote: I just got back to this thread, and jesus christ I have missed so much. Personally, I feel that Serejai is definitely mafia because of his almost complete lack of comprehension in his posts. If you read his comments in some other threads, they seem rational and well thought-out as in he was definitely trying to understand the situation at hand. Here, however, he doesn't act like he's actively trying to understand whats going on and blatantly makes statements that defy logic What motivation would he have for doing so if he were town? From my cursory glance at the thread, no one has seemed to step up and deny that Serejai is probably a mafia, but everyone seems to glide over the issue to focus on other lynch targets. I think this is currently misguided, we can't know for certain if any of those people are mafia or not so we should wait for a few more night actions. On the other hand, we have an almost guaranteed mafia in the form of Serejai. The likelihood that Serejai is mafia is far greater than that of any of the other players, each of whom seems to have lots of supporters and detractors. Later on he again switches his position on Proct Hmm. I guess that takes away from the validity of my points, but I still don't trust that Proact is the actual DT since there have been slip-ups. He then continues to be inactive, going along with the town on every vote afterwards. At this point, I think, in regards to the GM/Coag debacle, the mafia was pretty much forced to bus both of them and hoped to hide in the shadows of the inactives while slowly trying to kill the blues and finally hit the big town players (Me, bodyguards, DrH). We lynch AO today, if he flips red, we lynch Conversion or TranceStorm tomorrow. I'm sure at least one of them is mafia and if there's still one mafia left after lynching both, we move onto DarthThienAn -> very Inactive ilovejohn | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
It doesn't make sense, does it? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 24 2011 05:09 Conversion wrote: If AO is mafia, and I as well, why would he tunnel me so hard and try to bus me when there's four mafia left? It doesn't make sense, does it? Bussing is a very possible strategy since they've been pretty much doing it all game. At this point though, it doesn't matter. We have enough town players to deal with the mafia because they'll only have 1 KP left. We lynch AO, we lynch you or TS, and then we either win or lynch DTA/ilovejohn and we should have won the game at that point. Mafia can choose to draw it out for 5 more day/night cycles but it's not going to do much. TranceStorm -> Very Inactive DarthThienAn -> very Inactive Conversion -> very Inactive ilovejonn 2 of 4 in here. We have a lot of days left till LYLO, especially since DrH is also a vet. It's pretty much GG if AO flips red at this point. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
Just a mere bodybag more or less in this game anyways. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
TranceStorm -> Very Inactive DarthThienAn -> very Inactive Conversion -> very Inactive ilovejonn 2 of 4 in here. We have a lot of days left till LYLO, especially since DrH is also a vet. It's pretty much GG if AO flips red at this point. Should read like that, not other way...TL Crashing x_x | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
So really, if AO flips red, mafia should just concede so the next games can start... | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 24 2011 06:27 Barundar wrote: I'd add kenpachi to your list chaoser, but more importantly mafia has to chop through a bunch of townies, starting with jaminz, bodyguards, drh, you, and then the rest of us, before they even have a shot at winning. And we kill them at same rate. So really, if AO flips red, mafia should just concede so the next games can start... Kenpachi finally made the Townie list because DropBear tried so damn hard to get him lynched. AO is an exemption since it was early game but with 4 mafia members left, they're not going to tunnel bus their own member, especially since at the time DropBear wasn't being looked at at all. | ||
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Barundar
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 24 2011 06:42 Barundar wrote: Fair enough. Same logic works for conversion with regards to AO though :/ I just said it's different because that was early game where it was ok. Not to mention that we really don't know what GM would have done had he been elected. I was pretty vocal in getting LSB/ON lynched. GM could have very well said ok, I'll listen to you. This was a calculated tunnel by DropBear when there were only 4 mafia left. There were no reasons for him to tunnel bus a fellow mafia at all. There wasn't even any pressure on him at the time | ||
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Barundar
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 24 2011 07:16 Barundar wrote: I'm not talking about AO. I'm talking about conversion. Me and AO was the only ones voting for conversion before Jaminz claimed, and AO voted for him yesterday as well. I doubt he would bus conversion at this stage of the game. hmm...this is true...let me look back on things then | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 24 2011 05:25 chaoser wrote: Mafia can choose to draw it out for 5 more day/night cycles but it's not going to do much. TranceStorm -> Very Inactive DarthThienAn -> very Inactive Conversion -> very Inactive ilovejonn 2 of 4 in here. We have a lot of days left till LYLO, especially since DrH is also a vet. It's pretty much GG if AO flips red at this point. Should read like that, not other way...TL Crashing x_x Hey, why do we know that DrH is a vet ? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Because if he was mafia then he would have had to plan for the GM/Coag debacle way before it began. His actions show that he's 90% not mafia. On the off chance we're in the 10% that he is, it's so out there that the game deserves to be won by mafia if that's the case. Either way, we have like 7-8 days to work through and there's only 2 mafia left. I looked over the conversion/AO thing and ok, if AO flips red, we can move on to TranceStorm -> Very Inactive DarthThienAn -> very Inactive ilovejonn with Conversion coming in as a Day 4 lynch. There's 16 townies so even if we mislynch all of them and 4 of us die assuming no more vets/medics, then it'll still be 8 townies to 2 and we can out vote them even if DrH was a mafia. Either way, it's very very unlikely for it. Basically town can't lose at this point unless somehow DrH and I are the mafia. DUHH DUHHH DUHHHHHHHHHHHH At this point it's pretty GG for them. Should just concede and not waste time -_- | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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ilovejonn
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Barundar
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On April 24 2011 08:28 ilovejonn wrote: I mean this game is so boring even the OP isn't updated anymore. I wouldn't put the blame on BB, if that's what you mean. It's been a wonky game with some huge slips and some really good games have just been released, exams are hitting for a lot of people. I've felt that I've been phoning it in for a while now. | ||
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