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On March 27 2011 03:11 Tackster wrote:
Nice list - glad im green.
However if you do ever have a real reason to think someone is blue its probably better if you claim they're green so mafia can't have extra information.
I may be wrong but it seems like it would work.
I kinda didn't think that bit.
Bum's claimed blue and there's a very good chance I'm wrong on the other two (2/23 people isn't good odds with no information other than what they've said).
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bum said he will trust us IG players in using our behind the scenes PMing and the IG quicktopic, without needing to give our reasons if it will hurt how we play IG later. so, he has my FOSes. shouldn't need reasons.
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On March 27 2011 03:12 Tackster wrote:
LOVE ME GODDAMN IT!!! IM NEEDY AND WANT HUGS...
I advise you don't be so needy. It doesn't help your case, sorry.
Damn, I need to stop apologizing in mafia.
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On March 27 2011 03:06 Tackster wrote:
Ok i've searched and searched and searched and I cannot find the post I'm looking for - someone help me!!
I was certain I read that Jackal had said something along the lines of:
...and then we shoot someone **with coags item**...
But I can't find it in your posts - or anyone else
And i definitely remember something along those lines..
Can anyone point me to the post im talking about?
It only exists in your mind.
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On March 27 2011 03:06 Tackster wrote:
Ok i've searched and searched and searched and I cannot find the post I'm looking for - someone help me!!
I was certain I read that Jackal had said something along the lines of:
...and then we shoot someone **with coags item**...
But I can't find it in your posts - or anyone else
And i definitely remember something along those lines..
Can anyone point me to the post im talking about?
caog talked about having a weapon, I do not think that jackal talked about using coags weapon.
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On March 27 2011 03:13 annul wrote:
bum said he will trust us IG players in using our behind the scenes PMing and the IG quicktopic, without needing to give our reasons if it will hurt how we play IG later. so, he has my FOSes. shouldn't need reasons.
I don't understand how this is a good idea...
The IG players have basically nothing more to go on than the main thread players today. In further nights/days once powers have been used and players have been dropped then yes our PM circle is more powerful.
But today all we know are our alignments, items and roles.
The only information we can share are those three things.
So how can the PM circle know any more than the main thread does? Sure we can make plans on how to use our items but then again people can steal.
Also the PM circle is not working with all of it's members. For a start the forum is not being used. SO how can Bum rely on a circle that is really just a crooked line?
Also if you think that Bum should rely on the IG PM guys to work things out then doesnt it make sense for you to out your reasons to me? How does working on your own in the circle count as the circle working together?
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Tackster i know lemonWalrus isnt scum
We have well over 50 conversations back a
I have posted here at TL with lemonWalrus for like 5 years now maybe 6. I know him very well. On top of that i have counted hundreds of town tells from him here and in thread that only an experienced mafia player would be able to possibly pull off against an extremely skeptical player such as myself.
I dont see why you are having such a hard time understanding that out of everyone in the game there are 3 people that i have an extremely strong town read on.
IF TOWN DOESNT TAKE MY WORD AT THIS POINT THEY ARE THROWING OUT AN ADVANTAGE.
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its because for all intents and purposes, IG is a mini mafia game. bum trusts our analysis. he knows there is lots of stuff behind the scenes that isn't obvious to the entire game.
^^^ are all things bum said/implied.
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Why do so many people's game play seem to be based on:
'I'm really really good just trust me for no reason'?
Coagulation:
Coagulation United States. March 27 2011 03:38. Posts 4510
IF TOWN DOESNT TAKE MY WORD AT THIS POINT THEY ARE THROWING OUT AN ADVANTAGE.
How is that an argument that town should follow? I believe the whole point of scum is to have people who give you advice and you just 'take their word'
Anyway you say you know Lemon for several centuries and I accept that this might in fact be very useful for town. However:
#1 This is his first game of mafia. You've never seen him behave like a mafia before.
#2 If you have and i quote 'hundreds' of town tells from him the why won't you out them. I don't understand why if you have this proof that he is town you can't share it with us.
And we do understand that you have a good read on them. However the game isn't called follow Coagulations good reads. We need to assess your abilities and we need to assess you alignment. So far you've given me 'i'm good just trust me'...
Annul you said:
annul United States. March 27 2011 03:40. Posts 1499
its because for all intents and purposes, IG is a mini mafia game. bum trusts our analysis. he knows there is lots of stuff behind the scenes that isn't obvious to the entire game.
What is this behind the scenes stuff? Where are the scenes? Currently we have hidden talks going on in a PM circle which are resulting in people clamoring that they have DEFINITE answers. You yourself are being FOSsed in this game and yet you're insisting that closed doors are the best solution.
There is nothing going on in the IG at the moment that is obscured from the main game. In later days there may be some interesting mechanics at work what with items being stolen and items being used. But for today there are vague claims being made based on what has been said in this thread.
You seem to want to get lynched by terrific trio because you want to keep a secret that doesnt exist.
@Bum Please do use the input from the item game. But judge it for what it is, use the input from the main thread players and then vote what you feel is right. Talk to the other blues about. In no way should you auto-vote based on this group of IG players. I have stated why before and i'll list it for you again. We have a tunneler, a self-confirmed and a master of secrets. They seem like heroes from Mystery Men.
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On March 27 2011 03:38 Coagulation wrote:
i have counted hundreds of town tells from him here and in thread that only an experienced mafia player would be able to possibly pull off against an extremely skeptical player such as myself.
I dont see why you are having such a hard time understanding that out of everyone in the game there are 3 people that i have an extremely strong town read on.
IF TOWN DOESNT TAKE MY WORD AT THIS POINT THEY ARE THROWING OUT AN ADVANTAGE.
Point out the hundreds of town tells if you dont mind, explain it in small words too, I can be dense sometimes. I refuse to take any defense thats "I am more experienced and can see invisible tells" if you can see them you can point it out.
@all the people in the IG who think we should just trust them, that is utter BS, its mafia a game of behavior analysis, if you can get a read based on behavior you can point out what that read is based on. let me say it now, I REFUSE to "just trust you" because you have information you don't want to share. Secrecy and withholding information is ANTI TOWN, huge FoS on everyone who just wants me to trust them without providing reasoning.
Give me reasons so I can nail scum to the wall later, rather than selling me smoke please.
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On March 27 2011 03:56 Tackster wrote:
There is nothing going on in the IG at the moment that is obscured from the main game.
this is 100% false
don't act like you know who i am in PM chat with. that's the entire point of PM chat: you DON'T know.
i have my reasons for FOSing you and jackal. if bum needs them, i will tell him.
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On March 27 2011 03:02 Tackster wrote:Show nested quote +Jackal58 United States. March 27 2011 02:56. Posts 957On March 27 2011 02:51 Lanaia wrote:
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Making a plan behind closed doors isn't that great.
How can they be clear, though?
If it has been done without your knowledge, then... should it really be valid? Maybe the other two have not been involved with this as well.
Do you think Coag and Lemon have some sort of pact? I always make plans behind closed doors. Making plans here is useless. Least town sided view I've ever heard
If you can put together a plan of action outside the eyes of scum and employ it to towns advantage what is scummy about that? It happened to great effect in XXXVII. Ser Apsi and Foolishness raped scum. LSB Coag and I raped scum.
Kevconsim and why followed my plan to win the end game. What is scummy about killing scum? Why would I put together a plan in front of scum? You're not very good at this yet are you?
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On March 26 2011 16:20 bumatlarge wrote:
Since people in the IG have kept quiet about most things, I'll trust them just saying who is scum.
so, he probably doesn't need my reasoning.
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On March 27 2011 04:03 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 16:20 bumatlarge wrote:
Since people in the IG have kept quiet about most things, I'll trust them just saying who is scum.
so, he probably doesn't need my reasoning.
Then I think bum is being stupid, giving reasons gives us accountability, so that when someone is making the arguments based on flawed logic we can screw them over. If you do not provide reasons you are not playing pro town.
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Day ends in 9 hours right? apparently none of the town wants to vote -_-. Bum, can I ask what the opinions of your blue circle is? And who you're going to be lynching?
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Can Red and Black Players PM/communicate privately with each other?
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GMarshal how fun would a game of mafia be between us two?
GMarshal: I claim town
Tackster: Me too
GMarshal: But I know that I am town
Tackster: Reasonable point. I admit defeat
**Town Wins**
And now to poke fun against the guys I'm trying to get answers from:
Annul: I claim town
Jackal: Me too
Annul: Can I be mayor?
Jackal: From your scumtells I can tell you are mafia
Annul: Are you sure?
Jackal: Trust me, I am pro
Annul: Ok
**Mafia Wins**
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"Annul: Are you sure?
Jackal: Trust me, I am pro
Annul: Ok"
would never happen
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EPT
