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@Lanaia as the information is out there for all to see in 2 or 3 pieces I will out it for the group. Since mafia will be working harder to piece it then town I assume this is the pro-town thing to do. I think Jackal basically slipped it in one of his wonderful 'my math is flawless' posts.
Jackal, Coagulation, LemonWalrus are claiming cleared town.
Darmousseh, Annul, Tackster supposedly contain the 2 scum.
Jackal says the he has cleared the former three and has rounded down the scum to the latter three. Because he says the 3 'greens' think im the scummiest he wants to lynch me.
Some things to note:
-- The only contact I had before all of this began was with annul and nothing of worth has been mentioned. This has all been done without my knowledge.
-- the IG forum is not really being used - i've posted but no one is answering
-- Apparently these people think i'm the scummiest even though of the remaining three when the accusation was made I was the only one not FOSsed but in fact declared pro-town by some.
-- Coagulation and Lemon have publicly FOSsed me as Jackal said. However they haven't confirmed whether or not they have cleared jackal. My feelings are he has persuaded them that he's green and has buddied them by claiming he feels they are town
-- Jackals group have shared their item information. I feel this is anti-town.
-- Annul has so far not posted any FOSses on anyone in the IG that I have seen
-- Coagulation has defended Lemon vehemently without reason
-- Darmousseh has been afk, has just returned and in a PM he claimed that:
The biggest person to suspect you was jackal. He was trying to make a plan behind closed doors.
There's more points that I have mentioned before but I'll start you off with that!
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Jackal58 United States. March 27 2011 02:41. Posts 954 Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 02:35 Tackster wrote:
Thinking about it now if scum have a DT item then it does them no good really as far as the item game goes. That leaves them with other powers (such as a killing shot) with which they would be stronger. I assume that scum weren't given non-scummy items but since this is insane mafia and it's a mini-game then it's possible.
Anyway the point is if a town is lynched d1 and all the town use then even if none are killed at night scum could steal from 2 out of 3. That leaves us with little information to work with. If scum kill another town then that leaves us with almost no information...
Darmo what do you think of all greens agreeing to steal instead? Do you have a DT item you're confused what to do with?
@Jackal - correct you're ability to read has outed that I have a DT item and because I have little knowledge of the game I can't pick someone to use it on.
Seriously? After you managed to persuade others to out their items you're trying to out mine in the main thread?
Actually I just had a thought - what if coag and lemon are the scum and they're tricking jackal into lynching the town... ROFL
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On March 27 2011 02:35 Tackster wrote:
Thinking about it now if scum have a DT item then it does them no good really as far as the item game goes. That leaves them with other powers (such as a killing shot) with which they would be stronger. I assume that scum weren't given non-scummy items but since this is insane mafia and it's a mini-game then it's possible.
Anyway the point is if a town is lynched d1 and all the town use then even if none are killed at night scum could steal from 2 out of 3. That leaves us with little information to work with. If scum kill another town then that leaves us with almost no information...
Darmo what do you think of all greens agreeing to steal instead?
Hrm, I think that it doesn't really help nearly as much as using your item.
If all green agree to use their item and assuming no one is lynched then here are some possibilities
1. Everyone uses their item, this is the best case scenario since some items are really beneficial from town.
2. All but 1 (a red or black) use their item. We can identify the one who stole instead
3. All but 2 (the red and the black) use their item. We still get 2 uses and we can use claims to determine who is lying.
If town agrees to this plan, my guess is the scum will be too wimpy to try to steal and lie since lying is much harder to do than telling the truth.
There is a way I was thinking about using stealing, but it requires a confirmed townie. If there is someone in the group who is a confirmed townie (not confirmed by "he posts town-like", but really confirmed) then I will detail the plan out.
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On March 26 2011 15:46 Tackster wrote:
As far as the IG game goes I personally think all the greens should all agree to Defend until it goes to lower numbers. That way even if the scum only pretend to agree and use their items we might:
A) See what their items do
B) We could maybe work out who the scum is based on the effects of the items
C) Prevent scum from stealing any green items
as i told you before, i fully intend to steal tonight.
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On March 27 2011 02:31 Tackster wrote:Lastly there may be vig style powers in the IG. I feel giving scum a shot (assuming they have one - jackal keep saying either he or coagulation do)
Just to clarify - I have not said anything about what coag may or may not possess. Any claims he may make are his and his alone.
Just to clarify - I have not "kept" saying anything. I put it in my original plan. I reiterated it to bum.
I am not allowed to PM him so basically you guys all get to see what I would have sent him in a PM if I were allowed to.I'm much better at this game in PM land than I am in the game proper itself. I lose my patience too easily. It's a fault I'm working on.
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On March 26 2011 20:06 deconduo wrote:
Annul has said he has no read on Tack.
i never said i had no read on him
i said i did not tell jackal my read. big difference.
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On March 27 2011 02:42 Tackster wrote:@Lanaia as the information is out there for all to see in 2 or 3 pieces I will out it for the group. Since mafia will be working harder to piece it then town I assume this is the pro-town thing to do. I think Jackal basically slipped it in one of his wonderful 'my math is flawless' posts. Jackal, Coagulation, LemonWalrus are claiming cleared town. Darmousseh, Annul, Tackster supposedly contain the 2 scum. Jackal says the he has cleared the former three and has rounded down the scum to the latter three. Because he says the 3 'greens' think im the scummiest he wants to lynch me. Some things to note: -- The only contact I had before all of this began was with annul and nothing of worth has been mentioned. This has all been done without my knowledge. -- the IG forum is not really being used - i've posted but no one is answering -- Apparently these people think i'm the scummiest even though of the remaining three when the accusation was made I was the only one not FOSsed but in fact declared pro-town by some. -- Coagulation and Lemon have publicly FOSsed me as Jackal said. However they haven't confirmed whether or not they have cleared jackal. My feelings are he has persuaded them that he's green and has buddied them by claiming he feels they are town -- Jackals group have shared their item information. I feel this is anti-town. -- Annul has so far not posted any FOSses on anyone in the IG that I have seen -- Coagulation has defended Lemon vehemently without reason -- Darmousseh has been afk, has just returned and in a PM he claimed that: Show nested quote +The biggest person to suspect you was jackal. He was trying to make a plan behind closed doors. There's more points that I have mentioned before but I'll start you off with that!
Making a plan behind closed doors isn't that great.
How can they be clear, though?
If it has been done without your knowledge, then... should it really be valid? Maybe the other two have not been involved with this as well.
Do you think Coag and Lemon have some sort of pact?
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On March 27 2011 02:47 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 15:46 Tackster wrote:
As far as the IG game goes I personally think all the greens should all agree to Defend until it goes to lower numbers. That way even if the scum only pretend to agree and use their items we might:
A) See what their items do
B) We could maybe work out who the scum is based on the effects of the items
C) Prevent scum from stealing any green items
as i told you before, i fully intend to steal tonight.
If you plan on stealing, then my idea for everyone using their item in bunk.
I had a plan for the IG game involving stealing, but too many people have relayed information about the name of their item making it easy to cheat my plan. Time to think up a new plan.
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and i pretty much have no reason to do anything but defend at this point
my item is useless right now
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On March 27 2011 02:49 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 20:06 deconduo wrote:
Annul has said he has no read on Tack. i never said i had no read on him i said i did not tell jackal my read. big difference.
And I never claimed you did. I said you thought Lemonwalrus was scum.
That is what you told me, that is what I told town.
Town's collective IQ of a sea cucumber turned that into I said you said something I never said you said.
Say that 4 times fast after a few beers.
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On March 27 2011 02:51 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 02:42 Tackster wrote:@Lanaia as the information is out there for all to see in 2 or 3 pieces I will out it for the group. Since mafia will be working harder to piece it then town I assume this is the pro-town thing to do. I think Jackal basically slipped it in one of his wonderful 'my math is flawless' posts. Jackal, Coagulation, LemonWalrus are claiming cleared town. Darmousseh, Annul, Tackster supposedly contain the 2 scum. Jackal says the he has cleared the former three and has rounded down the scum to the latter three. Because he says the 3 'greens' think im the scummiest he wants to lynch me. Some things to note: -- The only contact I had before all of this began was with annul and nothing of worth has been mentioned. This has all been done without my knowledge. -- the IG forum is not really being used - i've posted but no one is answering -- Apparently these people think i'm the scummiest even though of the remaining three when the accusation was made I was the only one not FOSsed but in fact declared pro-town by some. -- Coagulation and Lemon have publicly FOSsed me as Jackal said. However they haven't confirmed whether or not they have cleared jackal. My feelings are he has persuaded them that he's green and has buddied them by claiming he feels they are town -- Jackals group have shared their item information. I feel this is anti-town. -- Annul has so far not posted any FOSses on anyone in the IG that I have seen -- Coagulation has defended Lemon vehemently without reason -- Darmousseh has been afk, has just returned and in a PM he claimed that: The biggest person to suspect you was jackal. He was trying to make a plan behind closed doors. There's more points that I have mentioned before but I'll start you off with that! Making a plan behind closed doors isn't that great. How can they be clear, though? If it has been done without your knowledge, then... should it really be valid? Maybe the other two have not been involved with this as well. Do you think Coag and Lemon have some sort of pact?
I always make plans behind closed doors. Making plans here is useless.
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Jackal58 United States. March 27 2011 02:56. Posts 957Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 02:51 Lanaia wrote:
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Making a plan behind closed doors isn't that great.
How can they be clear, though?
If it has been done without your knowledge, then... should it really be valid? Maybe the other two have not been involved with this as well.
Do you think Coag and Lemon have some sort of pact? I always make plans behind closed doors. Making plans here is useless.
Least town sided view I've ever heard
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HEY bumatlarge:
in order of scumminess, i have:
jackal + tackster tied for level of scum
darmo.
myself (obviously), lemon, and coag are good people. i also do not suspect darm nearly as much as the other two.
if you need my reasons, let me know. but i don't think you do.
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Ok i've searched and searched and searched and I cannot find the post I'm looking for - someone help me!!
I was certain I read that Jackal had said something along the lines of:
...and then we shoot someone **with coags item**...
But I can't find it in your posts - or anyone else
And i definitely remember something along those lines..
Can anyone point me to the post im talking about?
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LOL annul I definitely want reasons - list them please
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Good chance a fair amount of this is wrong.
1. RebirthOfLeGenD
2. Jackal58**
3. OriginalName
4. Kenpachi
5. deconduo
6. Kavdragon
7. darmousseh **
8. bumatlarge
9. GMarshal
10. Coagulation **
11. orgolove
12. chaoser
13. Meapak_Ziphh
14. annul **
15. kevconsim
16. Mr. Wiggles
17. CubEdIn
18. GGQ
19. ilovejonn
20. Amber[LighT]
21. BrownBear
22. Lemonwalrus**
23. Rean
24. tnkted
25. Tackster **
26. Lanaia
27. iGrok
28. Beneather
29. Insanious
30. Eiii
bold = scum, blue = police force, green = townie, italics = unsure.
Reasons:
I can't read most of the lurkers because there is little to nothing to actually read.
No CC on bum.
I know I'm town.
Tackster is very protown at this point and as such, I don't think he is scum.
Annul isn't scum, I'm fairly certain now. (Sorry I thought you were scum earlier)
I can't see the things Insanious has been doing with a scum motivation, thus he's town.
I don't know why, but I think both Kav and RoL are blue.
The fact someone said Lemon's been talking a lot in PM but not in the thread bothers me.
I think iGrok is scum at this point, I don't really have a reason for this.
tnkted doesn't appear to be scum motivated/I don't see him being scum with what he's been up to.
Most of my scum reads are gut reads, tbh.
A lot of the town seem just like town.
Chaoser has been town motivated.
GMarshal has been town motivated.
deconduo has been town motivated.
Cube and MrWiggles are gutreads.
Some things I have a tough time explaining myself with.
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On March 27 2011 03:07 Tackster wrote:
LOL annul I definitely want reasons - list them please
if bum wants them, i shall give them.
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I meant a fair amount of it might be wrong because, well.... I don't have reads on 11 people and I know they have an alignment.
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Nice list - glad im green.
However if you do ever have a real reason to think someone is blue its probably better if you claim they're green so mafia can't have extra information.
I may be wrong but it seems like it would work.
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Everyone refuses to give me reasons for FOSsing me.
Jackal gives me a reason based on his flawed 'i know who town is fo sho'
Coag and Lemon just want to kill me
And now Annul FOSses me as much as Jackal but won't say why...
LOVE ME GODDAMN IT!!! IM NEEDY AND WANT HUGS...
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