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annul
United States2841 Posts
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annul
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:20 Jackal58 wrote: I knew when I put up my plan I would be target #1. I did it anyways. Because it is in towns best interest. Coag is town. LW is town. I am town. I possess towns night KP. I have outlined the 3 separate scenarios that can occur off of a Tackster lynch. I stand by my plan. I stand by my lynch decision. My target is Tackster. Ok if bum picks Tack, I'm lynching you tomorrow when Tack flips town. Someone who blindly tunnels until he gets what he wants is no good, regardless of alignment. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
I would ask that (as you stated i believe) you find out why i am being accused of scum. If the argument is that this is a general consensus then you can read back to see that: #1 it has not in fact always been consensus(annul and darmo were not in on this to begin) #2 the IG provides no information that the main thread doesnt have and as such any consensus in the IG is dependant on what is said in this thread anyway #3 there is definite band wagoning going on Now i'm not going to be on for long so i'm going to try and keep this brief yet detail the important stuff. Bum please find out if there's any more information then what is in the main thread. It seems people in the IG are FOSsing because of what is said in the main thread as this is their only source of information. If so this information is no more useful then everyones ideas. If there is more information available (which i doubt) analyze it and discuss it with your circle. If there is information in there detailing me as scum (which i dont think there can be especially as jackal has admitted i may not in fact be scum) then probe it for fallacies which there will be. Please ask for votes from people not in the IG anyway. I think you'll see that I have some believers in the main thread and that must give me some weight, however little. Lastly do try and read through the events today carefully as there have been many good points made and we need to decide on strategy as well. My vote on who is mafia in the IG would be [boldJackal[/bold]. He seems to have sown much dissent. He has given baseless arguments. He has claimed secret information no one else is privy to. He is obviously tunneling without a reason. His arguments have clearly been 'trust me because i am right'. Many people in the thread here in fact feel he is untrustworthy and generally wrong in his lynches. Please get individual information for why people are calling me scum. There really is no basis to this argument. I hope that other's will defend me between when i log off and when night 1 begins. Lastly - I assume no one will bother making these claims anymore but being lynched night 1 will in no way put me off paying mafia on the forums so please dont let that influence your vote. I may be new but im not a baby. I'll be on for a while longer tonight. I look forward to the morning to see if I still can use the game as an excuse to not do work! | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:13 bumatlarge wrote: Alright, I just want confirmation on this from all. Even if two are scum, three of you who are town have a strong feeling that tackster is scum, even with what he has posted in the thread? I'll be honest and fair. Out of Tackster Annul and Darm 2 are scum. I picked Tack simply because I saw him as the easiest lynch. If you want to lynch darm I'm cool with that as well. The longer this has gone on the more I think annul is the town out of those 3. It is a numbers game. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:23 deconduo wrote: Ok if bum picks Tack, I'm lynching you tomorrow when Tack flips town. Someone who blindly tunnels until he gets what he wants is no good, regardless of alignment. Doesn't matter how he flips. I'm shooting you tonight. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:25 Jackal58 wrote: Doesn't matter how he flips. I'm shooting you tonight. Cool story bro. So you admit could be wrong about tack. After being totally 100% certain up to now. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Finally off from work for a day. Just wanted to ask the reasoning behind lynching from the item game? It seems kind of stupid statistically speaking. There is a 1/3 chance a player is anti town in both the item game and in the actual game. 1) Scum is on their own in the IG, no scumbuddies 2) 4 townies are guaranteed to be among them with PM rights, so they should have a large say in which among them gets lynched. 3) They are likely to be picked off at a faster pace then the rest of the town Thank you jackal, that is what I wanted to hear. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
Jackal58 United States. March 27 2011 05:25. Posts 963 Doesn't matter how he flips. I'm shooting you tonight. Jackal you couldn't possibly say more anti-town things in one single game... | ||
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:24 Jackal58 wrote: I'll be honest and fair. Out of Tackster Annul and Darm 2 are scum. I picked Tack simply because I saw him as the easiest lynch. If you want to lynch darm I'm cool with that as well. The longer this has gone on the more I think annul is the town out of those 3. It is a numbers game. WOW, so now it goes from "Tack is 100% scum" to "Tack is probably scum, im pretty sure... not really" We are hanging the towns hopes of killing a scum, on someone who continuously lies to town to try to get them to do what he wants... Jackal is scummy scum scum scum. On March 27 2011 05:25 Jackal58 wrote: Doesn't matter how he flips. I'm shooting you tonight. Ok, we need to lynch jackal tonight. He says he has the towns only KP, and is going to use it WITHOUT TOWN INPUT. This is just as dangerous as a scum. - - - - Not to mention, coag said he had a weapon... doesn't that mean KP? Is Jackal lying? - - - - As well, it would be very easy for Jackal to say "I am town KP" while being mafia or 3rd party and using their KP to look like a vig... - - - - Jackal looks more and more scummy as the day goes on. | ||
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:27 bumatlarge wrote: 1) Scum is on their own in the IG, no scumbuddies 2) 4 townies are guaranteed to be among them with PM rights, so they should have a large say in which among them gets lynched. 3) They are likely to be picked off at a faster pace then the rest of the town Thank you jackal, that is what I wanted to hear. umm... scum have their scum buddies on the IG... Its not like the PM circle is closed. Both scum are getting PMs, and both scum are relaying everything to their scum buddies. The scum are then talking about what their scum player is going to do in the IG... The town is focusing almost 100% on the IG, so the scum will focus there too... Vs point #2... a PM circle just makes it easier for a scum to manipulate the town... They get to PM things that not everyone gets to hear (as has been seen in town... Jackal, coag, and lemon get more info than annul, darmousseh, or tack). This just means its easier for scum to manipulate people... 1 on 1 scum are more powerful. 3) Not necessarily... only if town focuses on item game as well... red cannot focus on item game unless town is using KP vs item game. Black will NOT use KP vs item game till night 2... Why would they attack into item game, when they could leave it as 1 town vs 1 black... terrible idea. just my $0.02 | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:41 Jackal58 wrote: If you sheep could read you'd already have seen where 3 or 4 times including my original post regarding my plan I have always admitted I might be wrong. Ok then, you ARE wrong. Pick someone else. | ||
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:41 Jackal58 wrote: If you sheep could read you'd already have seen where 3 or 4 times including my original post regarding my plan I have always admitted I might be wrong. Because insulting the people your trying to convince is a good way to get people to follow you... give us something to change our minds. Give us PMs, give us proof... The only thing that I can go on when looking at who to lynch is the stuff in thread. In thread Tackster looks town and you look scum. If you want to change my mind you have to prove it... give me PMs. Give me something to change my mind. Because you NEVER will sway ANYONE simply going "guys... believe me, I'm town I swear!" | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Tackster
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:22 annul wrote: i would actually take out jackal first if it were me ;\ This is what I want to hear. No pussy shit here annul give me your TRUE CONVICTIONS. I'm assuming both tackster and jackal regardless of alignment want to stay alive so they should want the other killed. Tackster - Jackal Jackal - Tackster Annul - Jackal Coagulation - Tackster Lemon - Tack? Darm - Tack? Change it at anytime. My team is discussing this now. @insanious, I know they are in PM contact, but if we add weight to what the IG players say, defending in the IG game becomes genuine, or a scum tactic. I am leaning heavily against jackal as of right now, even if it's 2:4. I can't really ignore a unanimous decision, but since they are starting to seem a bit more unsure, or having better scum reads on others besides the main lynchees, then I will definitely take yours and everyone else's strong analyses for tackster and against jackal into account. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On March 27 2011 05:45 Insanious wrote: If you want to change my mind you have to prove it... give me PMs. Give me something to change my mind. Because you NEVER will sway ANYONE simply going "guys... believe me, I'm town I swear!" QFT. But seriously, Jackal, why isn't it necessary to give us proof? Same to annul. | ||
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annul
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