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On March 27 2011 06:36 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:32 deconduo wrote:On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote:On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote:
I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/. This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items. You skip by the question once again. You have not given an shred of any sort of evidence against him other than your opinion. You can't even find ONE scummy post. bullshit i have posted scummy PM's i got from him and analyzed them and showed people why i think they are scummy 2 times. go back and read the thread dont tell me i havnt found "ONE" scummy thing.
Both PMs you posted were sent AFTER you decided he was scum. Neither PMs are scummy, you just gave shitty reasons.
He doesn't deny being scum - LOL
He doesn't give opinions on who thinks is scum - why should he being giving opinions in a PM if no one has asked for them. In a previous game with you (orgah IIRC), you EXPLICITLY SAID you don't give out opinions in PM unless you feel like it because its dangerous.
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Everything Jackal and Coag have said is basically a lie. Has no basis in anything, and we are basing our kills on it.
Hell, they cant even defend themselves against simple questions like "what makes you think this?" which is a basic question for anyone when calling scum.
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On March 27 2011 06:36 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:32 deconduo wrote:On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote:On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote:
I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/. This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items. You skip by the question once again. You have not given an shred of any sort of evidence against him other than your opinion. You can't even find ONE scummy post. bullshit i have posted scummy PM's i got from him and analyzed them and showed people why i think they are scummy 2 times. go back and read the thread dont tell me i havnt found "ONE" scummy thing.
Do you mean this one coag?
Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 13:14 Coagulation wrote:also heres a scummy fucking PM from tack for all you bitching about why we think hes scummy. Original Message From Tackster:
Any thoughts on this game?
Red/Black FoSes
Original Message From Coagulation:
im pretty sure its you and darm.
Original Message From Tackster:
I'll take some reasons if you have any...
Also im catching up on thread so bear with me He doesnt deny it at all more worried about finding out how we possibly could have known hes scum. a townie would say fuck you bitch im town you moron.
Or is there more? Want to compile to view easier.
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Coagulation United States. March 26 2011 14:32. Posts 4518Show nested quote +From: Tackster [ 53 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: RE: Item Game
Date: 3/26/11 14:14
OK Guys there is obviously a circling of wagons going on here... I'm PMing this to all mini-game players with a pearl of wisdom:
THERE IS SCUM IN THE MINI-GAME
We each need to rely on our OWN opinions and we need to realise that strategy is going to win the mini-game not dumb luck.
So I expect everybody in the mini-game to reply to this PM and evaluate me using my bloody opinion as well...
2 of us are mafia and they will be the one's sowing dissent and FOSsing the others.
We need to work out our Steal/Defend/Use strategy, we need to try and assess item powers and get scum to slip.
If you're all going to genuflect to Jackal veteran status and ignore me this is going to auto-fail for town.
Also apart from Jackal and Coagulation I don't really see many IG related posts.
The mayorship is seems basically decided, right now the only 2 worries are how will we handle this mini-game and how will we out the scum.
Yours Expectantly,
A backstabbed green See your acting scummy over and over again i have pointed it out i will point it out here in this pm you just sent everyone. YOU DONT GIVE AN OPINION AT ALL ON WHO YOU THINK IS SCUM. YOU EXPECT EVERYONE ELSE TO TELL YOU WHO IS SCUM. BIG FLUFFY PM THAT ADDED 0 INFORMATION. Super scummy
#1 That PM first of all clearly states that i'm opening an avenue of communication.
#2 I'm hardly going to discuss scum tells with a PM thats going to EVERYONE in the circle
#3 Others in the IG can confirm I in fact have discusses my FOSses with them. Annul, lemon and darmo have definitely heard my opinions on the matter. On the other hand Jackal replies to my saying 'you're scum' and you surprisngly enough did not reply...
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If you've been paying close attention to the thread, it'd be obvious that annul and coag are the most townish, Lemon in a close third. I'm reading tackster and jackal as about 50% likely town, and darm is probably some sort of scum. I'd kill darm, and then the consensus (with extra weight given to the almost certain townies annul and coag) of the town would chose tomorrow's kill.
That obviously leaves us with a dilemma between jack and tack (lol). As an intellectual exersise, lets pretend that they are both mafia and examine their play from the mafias point of view:
Jack is acting like a deeply stupid mafia. He is drawing attention to himself, throwing wild accusations, and making very anti-town statements. If he was drawing attention to himself after he gained a history of pro-town statements it'd be different, but...
Tack is acting like a very smart mafia. When he smelled danger, he immediately took to the thread and started to defend himself with well reasoned arguements and reasonable appeals for support and mercy.
What is more likely? That jackal is very stupid or that tack is very smart?
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On March 27 2011 06:40 Tackster wrote:
Coagulation even if I were to agree that the posts were scummy - which of course they werent
and i were to agree you did analysis on them - which you didnt, you just said 'look scum' and left it there
you still are referencing PMs that occured AFTER you FOSsed me.
You haven't mentioned any material from before you made your mind up.
Nobody could say anything about you until I posted my plan. You were inactive. Now you're the towns darling.
If I had put forth darm or annul you'd still be lurking.
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On March 27 2011 06:53 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:40 Tackster wrote:
Coagulation even if I were to agree that the posts were scummy - which of course they werent
and i were to agree you did analysis on them - which you didnt, you just said 'look scum' and left it there
you still are referencing PMs that occured AFTER you FOSsed me.
You haven't mentioned any material from before you made your mind up. Nobody could say anything about you until I posted my plan. You were inactive. Now you're the towns darling. If I had put forth darm or annul you'd still be lurking.
At what point was he inactive? He's been posting since the game started. He has 100 posts, all of them in this thread. You are making shit up once again.
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@Jackal
Actually i was posting loads during this thread before I went to bed. I sleep therefore I am mafia? Ask deconduo - he's my room mate. Think mafia have a huge plan to trick people through my dreams?
Besides if you have reasons to think it's me then how come you just said you couldnt tell cos i was inactive?
@Tnkted - i like hate your analysis for the reason that when i flip green i suddenly aren't smart...
But anyway if i were town i would behave the same
If Jackal were town he would behave differently
Can you agree with that tnkted?
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bumatlarge: i remembered that jackal at least attempted to reply to the breadcrumb post challenge, even if he did so with what i would consider an "obvious" line of tnk's.... tackster didn't at all. it makes me a little more weary to pop jackal today, since he MAY have something from the BC post.
but other than that, since i think they are both scum, tackster is probably much more dangerous, since he appears to be intelligent enough to get out of kills. do we want another pandain?
consider this when you consider where my "vote" stands.
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annul i basically outed my PM post and MUCH later jackal did...
I'll go find it for you
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On March 27 2011 07:05 annul wrote:
bumatlarge: i remembered that jackal at least attempted to reply to the breadcrumb post challenge, even if he did so with what i would consider an "obvious" line of tnk's.... tackster didn't at all. it makes me a little more weary to pop jackal today, since he MAY have something from the BC post.
tackster responded to the breadcrumbs already in a previous post.
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no, i want to see a response to the TOWNIE ALIGNMENT pm. the one that explicitly says you are town. not the one from kita talking about how a role PM is soon to come. the original alignment PM.
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because i suspect the kita one was sent to everybody. at least it makes sense to send to all IG players, which means both scum teams have it.
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Tackster Ireland. March 26 2011 14:34. Posts 102
Lol my PM asked for people to actually converse with me. You're either seeing scum where you want to or trying to create problems for town. Thanks for outing that btw I think it shows how reasonable I am!
As a townie I am sitting tight till i get more information...
And you should too
11 Hours Later!!!
Jackal58 United States. March 27 2011 01:01. Posts 968
On March 27 2011 00:51 Insanious wrote:
So... Jackal you do realize YOU and darmousseh are the ONLY players in the item game that have NOT shown that they know what the town alignment PM is...
So basically YOU and darmousseh DID NOT GET ONE.
You are a normal townie, sit tight, you'll get your role in 24 hours
Townie is in green. Twinkle toes told me to look in role PMs Then said Oh sorry I meant alignment PMs. that's when I quit playing his game. It's bs any ways.
Not copied - typed out. Sit tight while I nail your scummy ass to the wall.
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oh haha i didn't mean to insult your intelligence if you're green!
I very specifically have not drawn any conclusions on whether you or jackal is scum. I think that darm needs to die the most atm. I think if jackal was scum hed try to get you killed because you have the weakest reputation out of the people in the IG. However, he could be accusing you because you have acted the scummiest in the tiny social circle of the IG, which I don't know anything about. I'm sure that theres going to be a very elaborate system of checks and counterchecks and roleblocking going on tonight with you and jackal if we lynch darm, so I think we should wait until that happens before we deal with you.
Darm needs to die. We can deal with the tack vs jack scenario tomorrow.
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On March 27 2011 06:59 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:53 Jackal58 wrote:On March 27 2011 06:40 Tackster wrote:
Coagulation even if I were to agree that the posts were scummy - which of course they werent
and i were to agree you did analysis on them - which you didnt, you just said 'look scum' and left it there
you still are referencing PMs that occured AFTER you FOSsed me.
You haven't mentioned any material from before you made your mind up. Nobody could say anything about you until I posted my plan. You were inactive. Now you're the towns darling. If I had put forth darm or annul you'd still be lurking. At what point was he inactive? He's been posting since the game started. He has 100 posts, all of them in this thread. You are making shit up once again.
Ya you're right. 40 posts arguing with annul and another 60 omgusing me.
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yeah, that doesnt prove anything to me. it makes sense for kita to send that specific phrase to everyone in item game, not just the town.
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and i put the townie in green to make it obvious...
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okay, never mind, i am a dumb
ignore the post where i say to let jackal live for possible BCing.
they both BCed something that doesnt mean anything
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