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On March 27 2011 05:49 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 05:45 Insanious wrote: If you want to change my mind you have to prove it... give me PMs. Give me something to change my mind.
Because you NEVER will sway ANYONE simply going "guys... believe me, I'm town I swear!" QFT. But seriously, Jackal, why isn't it necessary to give us proof? Same to annul. Because none of us have any "proof". I can tell you what items LW and coag have. But I'm not going to. I can't prove coag and LW are town any more than I could prove LSB and coag were town in XXXVII.
Bum if you want to lynch me go for it. But then lynch darm tack and annul in the next 3 days. Probably be too late but hey. What the hell. I'll be dead.
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I'm definitely in the lynch jackal camp right now. His reaction to his being suspected is almost exactly identical to another game which I played where he was mafia. I don't have enough of a read on tack to say anything. I also suspect one of annul/coag is probably black since black wants to kill mafia too, but I have no cause for it other than that they are playing very strategical right now.
Lynch jackal imo.
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dont get me wrong, i DEFINITELY think tackster is scum.
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On March 27 2011 05:57 darmousseh wrote: I'm definitely in the lynch jackal camp right now. His reaction to his being suspected is almost exactly identical to another game which I played where he was mafia. I don't have enough of a read on tack to say anything. I also suspect one of annul/coag is probably black since black wants to kill mafia too, but I have no cause for it other than that they are playing very strategical right now.
Lynch jackal imo. Clues and puzzles???? I was dead day 1 no matter what I did. Thank you LSB.
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On March 27 2011 05:59 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 05:57 darmousseh wrote: I'm definitely in the lynch jackal camp right now. His reaction to his being suspected is almost exactly identical to another game which I played where he was mafia. I don't have enough of a read on tack to say anything. I also suspect one of annul/coag is probably black since black wants to kill mafia too, but I have no cause for it other than that they are playing very strategical right now.
Lynch jackal imo. Clues and puzzles???? I was dead day 1 no matter what I did. Thank you LSB. 
haha, yeah, the clues were a little too obvious.
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On March 27 2011 05:58 annul wrote: dont get me wrong, i DEFINITELY think tackster is scum. If you're the 4th townie he has to be.
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On March 27 2011 05:59 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 05:57 darmousseh wrote: I'm definitely in the lynch jackal camp right now. His reaction to his being suspected is almost exactly identical to another game which I played where he was mafia. I don't have enough of a read on tack to say anything. I also suspect one of annul/coag is probably black since black wants to kill mafia too, but I have no cause for it other than that they are playing very strategical right now.
Lynch jackal imo. Clues and puzzles???? I was dead day 1 no matter what I did. Thank you LSB. 
If you look in the Day post, there are references to the Blacks being backed up by businesses. This is clearly a clue referencing OPEC. Case Solved!
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@bum
Vote Jackal. Secondary vote for darmousseh.
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If you lynch jackal im gonna be fucking pissed.
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WE HAVE PLANS SET IN MOTION TO CONFIRM EACH OTHER IF YOU HAVE TO LYNCH JACKAL DO IT DAY 2 FOR FUCKS SAKE.
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On March 27 2011 06:08 Coagulation wrote: WE HAVE PLANS SET IN MOTION TO CONFIRM EACH OTHER IF YOU HAVE TO LYNCH JACKAL DO IT DAY 2 FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Says two of you with no proof.
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I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/.
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My god this thread goes fast.
Ok, I'm operating with borrowed time so I can't be nearly as verbose as I'm sure you would all like me to, but I'm gonna try to answer the questions that have been asked of the IG players.
Now a lot of this is based on PMs, a lot on the thread, and quite a bit on just good old fashioned hunches as well.
My reads on my fellow IG players is as follows. (I'm going to reveal how these have changed over time too because I think it is the kind of information that might fit well into one of your fancy analysis posts)
In alphabetical order:
Annul At the start of the game, long before our pm circle became active, I was sure he was scum because I thought he was derailing the thread needlessly and that just seemed scummy. Since then I have slowly made a 180 on him and am now reasonably certain that he is town. I haven't pm'ed him a lot.
Coagulation I've thought he was town from the beginning. I know I know, we are friends, and you guys think that has something to do with it, but the thing is, the only way we could POSSIBLY be on the same side is if we were both town. So working together, unless one of us is so dense as to let the other one puppet them completely, will help town. Coag and I have been actively PMing each other since pretty much the start of the game, I know some of you say that is scum behavior for me to PM lots and post little, but we are trying to get something in the works to win the item game for town, and if we post details of it it won't work...so you are just going to have to give us a day or two to do our thing.
darmousseh I've got a scum read on him, but in his defense, a lot of it is process of elimination because i see 4 town reads in IG. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he flips town, but at the end of the day, we need to win the item game, if we lose a green or two in the process that sucks, but i think the town can stomach a 2/2 trade that gets us some nifty items and some confirmed townies. I just woke up to my first pm from him, I intend to pm him back, and if he survives the lynch to pm him more in the future to get an actual read on him.
Jackal58 I think he is town, and I intend to go along with his plan completely until such time as it starts spilling green blood. He is brazen and outspoken, and if he really is town he not only is flirting with a lynch but he is forcing both scum factions to pay very close attention to him. I think that is a benefit to his plan that not many people have thought about. He is basically forcing scum hands if they want any chance at winning the item game. I expect IG to be a bloodbath, but I think jackal's plan gives us the best chance of a green/some greens to be the ones left standing. I have pm'ed him a bit, second most after coag.
Lemonwalrus That's me. I've got a town read on me. I've also got a town alignment pm on me. I'm pretty sure this guy is town. bitch hasn't pmed me at all yet though, so maybe he is hiding something.
Tackster I've got a scum read on him, and so does coag, who's townishness and reading skills i trust completely. We've started pming a bit recently, but I had to sleep before we really got anywhere. I think his defense of himself in the thread (which a ton of you are falling for hook line and sinker) seems like a desperate attempt to throw blame everywhere he can just to avoid getting lynched. I only hope that his scum buddies were dumb enough to support him to give us some analysis material when he flips scum.
I think our best bet as town is to lynch Tack. If he flips scum, continue with jackal's plan, if he flips town...well, see who we've got left standing after night kills and start analyzing where every IG player stood on the decision and why.
I could see an argument for lynching darm, but I would rather we lynch Tack because personally I have a stronger read on him. I would not be at all surprised if darm flips town, so I'd like to wait till I have a better read on him before we possibly waste a lynch on him.
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On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote: I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/.
This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items.
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On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote: I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/. This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items.
You skip by the question once again. You have not given an shred of any sort of evidence against him other than your opinion. You can't even find ONE scummy post.
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On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote: I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/. This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items. No, this is a post from a disgruntled town, because I don't get to play the game till IG is dealt with.
If I analyze someone I get:
"Just wait till IG is done, and we will see what happens"
If I ask for someone to explain them selves:
"I'm part of IG, I don't need to explain my self"
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This game is not fun for me in anyway, simply because the IG players are doing thier own things and the rest of town doesn't get to do anything till it is over.
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On March 27 2011 06:32 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote:On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote: I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/. This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items. You skip by the question once again. You have not given an shred of any sort of evidence against him other than your opinion. You can't even find ONE scummy post.
bullshit i have posted scummy PM's i got from him and analyzed them and showed people why i think they are scummy 2 times. go back and read the thread dont tell me i havnt found "ONE" scummy thing.
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On March 27 2011 06:33 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote:On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote: I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"
When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"
Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/. This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items. No, this is a post from a disgruntled town, because I don't get to play the game till IG is dealt with. If I analyze someone I get: "Just wait till IG is done, and we will see what happens" If I ask for someone to explain them selves: "I'm part of IG, I don't need to explain my self" - - - This game is not fun for me in anyway, simply because the IG players are doing thier own things and the rest of town doesn't get to do anything till it is over.
sorry im not worried about you having fun im worried about town winning.
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Coagulation even if I were to agree that the posts were scummy - which of course they werent
and i were to agree you did analysis on them - which you didnt, you just said 'look scum' and left it there
you still are referencing PMs that occured AFTER you FOSsed me.
You haven't mentioned any material from before you made your mind up.
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Also you guys said you had confirmed each other as town. Your plans are based on each other being town.
Jackal is saying he's certain because you three are totally confirmed
Coagulation United States. March 27 2011 06:08. Posts 4518 WE HAVE PLANS SET IN MOTION TO CONFIRM EACH OTHER IF YOU HAVE TO LYNCH JACKAL DO IT DAY 2 FOR FUCKS SAKE.
That quote says you havent confirmed shit
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