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On March 31 2011 07:18 tnkted wrote:
I understand what you are saying, but you should know: if you're going with this plan tonight, I will die. 100% certainty on that. I'm willing to do it, but you should be aware. Oh, and my plan will void roleblocks too so don't bother wasting any on me.
This is assuming that this other person doesn't get back to me.
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On March 31 2011 07:14 ilovejonn wrote:
tnkted i really hope your bus does something good.
Boy, me too man, me too.
How long till the night ends? I have to go afk for a little but I want to check back and see whats happening.
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On March 31 2011 07:17 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 07:11 tnkted wrote:On March 31 2011 06:38 bumatlarge wrote:We all make misreads. tackster was no different. Shoulda coulda woulda, but there is no need to worry about it anymore. Coag and jackal are town. Lemon is scum. Simple as that. All powers were used night 1, so aside from framers and other more hidden actions, it's basically KP, mindcontrol and the vote things. Here is how I was thinking it should go down. Jackal steal from Lemon, coagualtion attempt to shoot him. A medic protect coagulation and tnkted switch jackal and someone deemed scum. This way we win item game, as mafia would have to redirect or protect lemon, and the most effecient way to do that is have coag shoot jackal. Jackal's bus buddy gets hit, and 2KP would have to be used on coag to kill him. Leaving jackal alive. Tnkted you need to use your non MC'd bus maneuver, or no one gets the items. I'm assuming you are town, because if you dont die and the other townies die, then mafia wins IG and you will die.  Luckily mafia will have to focus on the IG while I completely fuck up their team. They better pray that they have about 4 DT covers and bulletproof vests tonight. I won't be going into detail about what my team will be doing, but it should be drastic. Yes sir, fearless leader. I'll use it. I'm not going to tell you who I'm switching jackal with though, so I would avoid killing that person just in case they are town or something. A DT check would probably be fine however. FYI, I probably won't use either of the two people you mentioned. I have an alternative plan where I could use the regular mode and avoid MC, but it would rely trusting that somebody else knows what they're doing. If this person knows what they're talking about, they should drop me a breadcrumb somewhere because I'll have to switch my plans pretty quickly. I was going to use this plan originally until you told me to do the anti-MC one, so post that shit ASAP friendly person! I think I know who you are. Don't put the crumb in a reply to me or this post though! The best way to do this is to make scum dive into wifom to figure out what you are going to do.
This should be WIFOM enough:
You're Tnkted. You're the bus driver, and there's 3 people in the item game. The mafia has been found and confirmed, it's now up to you to make sure mafia can't kill the other two townies.
Do you:
a). Use your anti-mind-controlling bus
b). Since scum knows you've got a anti-mind-control bus, you decide to use your normal bus since they probably won't try to MC you anyway.
Do you:
a). Switch Jackal with someone
b). Since they assume you're switching Jackal, you switch around Coagulation instead.
Do you:
a). Switch it to someone immune so mafia can safely gamble on who to bus
b). Switch it to someone that's acting very scummy, possibly resulting in a team-kill for the reds if they gamble wrong.
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Actually... maybe there is a way I can combine both plans... Hmm...
There might be some hope that I can live through the night after all!
If not, everyone, i bid you farewell.
To quote Palahniuk:
“I've met God across his long walnut desk with his diplomas hanging on the wall behind him, and God asks me, "Why?" Why did I cause so much pain? Didn't I realize that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness? Can't I see how we're all manifestations of love? I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God's got this all wrong. We are not special. We are not crap or trash, either. We just are. We just are, and what happens just happens. And God says, "No, that's not right." Yeah. Well. Whatever. You can't teach God anything.”
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On March 31 2011 06:51 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 05:48 Kenpachi wrote:On March 30 2011 16:14 chaoser wrote:TacksterBrownBear Coagulation Jackal58 kevconsim Lemonwalrus Meapak_Ziphh Mr. Wiggles orgolove RebirthOfLeGenD tnkted Amber[LighT] GGQ Beneather Eiii Insanious LemonwalrusiGrok deconduo Tackster ilovejonn CubEdIn bumatlarge Rean chaoser OriginalName Kavdragon Lanaia Kenpachi I requested that people vote for LW at 9:00 PM EST, 1 hour before lynch Here are the few that did: On March 30 2011 10:29 Kenpachi wrote:
##unvote Tackster
##vote LemonWalrus On March 30 2011 10:25 Lanaia wrote:
##Unvote Tackster
##vote LemonWalrus
On March 30 2011 10:18 Kavdragon wrote:
##Unvote Kenpachi
##Vote Lemonwalrus
On March 30 2011 10:10 OriginalName wrote:
##Unvote Tackster
##Vote LemonWalrus I don't think mafia would dare change their votes at that point. 6 votes were already on LW, any more off Tack and onto LW might have snowballed. So if LW flips red, these people have earned tons of green points in my book or Black. We could be 3rd Party. I know Kav is one. Lololol. Cause blacks are totally going to stick their neck out for reds. Really Kenpachi?
????? what?
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On March 31 2011 07:24 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2011 07:17 Kavdragon wrote:On March 31 2011 07:11 tnkted wrote:On March 31 2011 06:38 bumatlarge wrote:We all make misreads. tackster was no different. Shoulda coulda woulda, but there is no need to worry about it anymore. Coag and jackal are town. Lemon is scum. Simple as that. All powers were used night 1, so aside from framers and other more hidden actions, it's basically KP, mindcontrol and the vote things. Here is how I was thinking it should go down. Jackal steal from Lemon, coagualtion attempt to shoot him. A medic protect coagulation and tnkted switch jackal and someone deemed scum. This way we win item game, as mafia would have to redirect or protect lemon, and the most effecient way to do that is have coag shoot jackal. Jackal's bus buddy gets hit, and 2KP would have to be used on coag to kill him. Leaving jackal alive. Tnkted you need to use your non MC'd bus maneuver, or no one gets the items. I'm assuming you are town, because if you dont die and the other townies die, then mafia wins IG and you will die. Luckily mafia will have to focus on the IG while I completely fuck up their team. They better pray that they have about 4 DT covers and bulletproof vests tonight. I won't be going into detail about what my team will be doing, but it should be drastic. Yes sir, fearless leader. I'll use it. I'm not going to tell you who I'm switching jackal with though, so I would avoid killing that person just in case they are town or something. A DT check would probably be fine however. FYI, I probably won't use either of the two people you mentioned. I have an alternative plan where I could use the regular mode and avoid MC, but it would rely trusting that somebody else knows what they're doing. If this person knows what they're talking about, they should drop me a breadcrumb somewhere because I'll have to switch my plans pretty quickly. I was going to use this plan originally until you told me to do the anti-MC one, so post that shit ASAP friendly person! I think I know who you are. Don't put the crumb in a reply to me or this post though! The best way to do this is to make scum dive into wifom to figure out what you are going to do. This should be WIFOM enough: You're Tnkted. You're the bus driver, and there's 3 people in the item game. The mafia has been found and confirmed, it's now up to you to make sure mafia can't kill the other two townies. Do you: a). Use your anti-mind-controlling bus b). Since scum knows you've got a anti-mind-control bus, you decide to use your normal bus since they probably won't try to MC you anyway. Do you: a). Switch Jackal with someone b). Since they assume you're switching Jackal, you switch around Coagulation instead. Do you: a). Switch it to someone immune so mafia can safely gamble on who to bus b). Switch it to someone that's acting very scummy, possibly resulting in a team-kill for the reds if they gamble wrong.
oh yeah, i forgot to mention: I lied about my plans in one crucial part in my previous posts here. Not the 'being bus driver' part, or anything like that, but in a part that will seriously gum up the works if mafia believes everything I've said here.
Or, I'm lying about this. Nobody knows! :D
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On March 31 2011 07:26 tnkted wrote:
Actually... maybe there is a way I can combine both plans... Hmm...
There might be some hope that I can live through the night after all!
If not, everyone, i bid you farewell.
To quote Palahniuk:
“I've met God across his long walnut desk with his diplomas hanging on the wall behind him, and God asks me, "Why?" Why did I cause so much pain? Didn't I realize that each of us is a sacred, unique snowflake of special unique specialness? Can't I see how we're all manifestations of love? I look at God behind his desk, taking notes on a pad, but God's got this all wrong. We are not special. We are not crap or trash, either. We just are. We just are, and what happens just happens. And God says, "No, that's not right." Yeah. Well. Whatever. You can't teach God anything.”
god is a tunneler.
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On March 31 2011 07:18 tnkted wrote:
I understand what you are saying, but you should know: if you're going with this plan tonight, I will die. 100% certainty on that. I'm willing to do it, but you should be aware. Oh, and my plan will void roleblocks too so don't bother wasting any on me.
This is assuming that this other person doesn't get back to me.
Sometimes we get roles that require us to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the game. In the original insane mafia I was a zombie so the only way my KP would be useful was for me to die, so I tried as hard as possible to get the mafia to hate me enough to off me. You may not make it to the end but you're going to really help get the town get some good items for the future.
I think we should start looking at some of the people who fucked up last night and switched back and forth. We should also look at some of the people who didn't hop the bandwagon, including myself.
It's not as though I would have switched my vote. Coag you should know this more than anyone else in this game that the last time a last minute vote train was created it caused the mafia to be safe. I was on the other side of the glass in that scenario and even if I was able to switch my vote, I wouldn't have. There's no way I could sit there and believe that a last minute vote train wasn't somehow encouraged by mafia activity. My gut was wrong though and it sucks to have to bite that loss, but can you really blame the players who voted for tack and stuck with him after almost a unanimous vote? It seemed almost too certain.
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tnked - how do we know you're not scum, and by not giving out your plan, you're going to lose it for town?
If you know 100% sure that your bus can't be MCed or anything like that, then just switch coag/jackal with Insaneous/Eiii and be done with it. How would mafia be able to deter those plans?
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P.S.: if you can't be RBed, why tell mafia and not let them waste rbs on you?
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On March 31 2011 08:32 CubEdIn wrote:
P.S.: if you can't be RBed, why tell mafia and not let them waste rbs on you?
I'm fine with him not telling us his plan. I really don't think he's scum right now.
But I agree that it wasn't in his best interest to say that unless it's solely for wifom.
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You're forgetting that it's because of the night 1 switch that we didn't have info on Lemon, which would have resulted in a 100% lynch. Don't be quick to dismiss him as being scum. If you were scum and you had BD, it makes perfect sense to keep your player out of the IG at night, no? And who better to switch him with than the only confirmed blue, just in case the bodyguards die.
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On March 31 2011 08:38 CubEdIn wrote:
You're forgetting that it's because of the night 1 switch that we didn't have info on Lemon, which would have resulted in a 100% lynch. Don't be quick to dismiss him as being scum. If you were scum and you had BD, it makes perfect sense to keep your player out of the IG at night, no? And who better to switch him with than the only confirmed blue, just in case the bodyguards die.
Exactly. You going to get lynched tnkted if you don't do your non-MC able bus plan
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For the record, I think that Eiii is MUCH more likly scum than beneather. I would lean towards bussing him if I were you.
Also, Wifom is needed because simply bussing Jackal with mafia won't pervent Mafia from hitting mafia in order to kill Jackal. He cannot publiclly say who he is going to bus, or IF he i going to bus. This way Mafia cannot hit Either Jackal OR mafia without a chance of hitting mafia.
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EBWODP:
Mafia = Group
mafia = single person
Sorry if that was confusing.
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Well moves sent in. I think I'll be able to avoid dying tonight. I'll explain after the night flip what I did.
Assuming I'm alive of course.
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On March 31 2011 09:29 tnkted wrote:
Half hour left, right?
No, an hour and a half i thought.
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I suggest you explain 1 minute before the day post, so that people can't change their votes but your post is not based on what is revealed in the day post.
Know what I'm saying? I want to know that your explanation makes sense before you know what happened during the night.
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