I just went out on a different mafia game so that I can do this one.
Mini Mafia V: Clues and Puzzles
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I just went out on a different mafia game so that I can do this one. | ||
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaara | ||
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OMG, that is the best character......which Q though? | ||
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On January 30 2011 02:03 Node wrote: While I agree that "disappeared in a giant burst of gravel" would seem to point towards Gaara, I don't think the story as a whole fits him that much. I don't know too much about the character, I'm just going by the Wikipedia article. Is there any plot in Naruto that mirrors the events in the day post at all? This all seems to state that the story as a whole will point to a specific person, rather than there being a small reference slipped in somewhere. This makes me think that Carlos the Jackal is the best fit so far. I mean, it's a string of hostage situations caused by a terrorist organization. Does that sound like anybody else? Obviously I'll be a little biased since my character is gaara, but Gaara used sand and in all cases he always left behind traces of sand and thats it, he never any traces of blood. There was a character in naruto who was like gaara but used rocks, but he didn't have a big role and wasn't related to gaara at all. If the clues are anything like XXXVI, then usually the entire post is reference to the person and there are 5-6 clues which point directly to that person which fit the entire post, not a small portion. Carlos the jackal seems like a very good match so far. Yesterday was the wife's birthday, so today I will have time to read the thread and I'll try to find hints. | ||
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On January 30 2011 03:35 darmousseh wrote: Obviously I'll be a little biased since my character is gaara, but Gaara used sand and in all cases he always left behind traces of sand and thats it, he never any traces of blood. There was a character in naruto who was like gaara but used rocks, but he didn't have a big role and wasn't related to gaara at all. If the clues are anything like XXXVI, then usually the entire post is reference to the person and there are 5-6 clues which point directly to that person which fit the entire post, not a small portion. Carlos the jackal seems like a very good match so far. Yesterday was the wife's birthday, so today I will have time to read the thread and I'll try to find hints. I just noticed that on some versions they block out the blood and on other versions its a bloody mess. Difference between the manga and the english anime i guess. | ||
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Carlos advocates radical Islamism in his book Revolutionary Islam, which expresses support for the terrorist attacks of Osama bin Laden as well as Saddam Hussein for resisting the United States. Radical islamism typically includes suicide bombing. This points to the part The Inspector replied, “No, the pirates killed everyone. And the pirates themselves? They would rather kill themselves than be captured” The pirates are irrational. Most pirates would rather be capture and have a chance to escape. The fact that they'd rather die indicates they are probably radical in some way. Another thing to note is that terrorism and being a pirate are very close to the same thing and in fact an 18th century british police force might see this as an act of piracy instead of terrorism. If you switch the word pirate to terrorist while reading the story I think it becomes even more pointed towards carlos the jackal. | ||
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On January 30 2011 07:14 Jackal58 wrote: To be fair to LSB and Gmarshall his wiki page is Jonathan Swift not Gulliver's Travels. Gulliver would open a whole new can of worms but Swift not necessarily so. I don't know how far afield from each persons page LSB may have drawn clues from but I don't see much on Swift. I would guess that if there was a major story that the author is known for or event that a character was a part of that it could relate to the character. I was actually looking through the different works your character wrote, but didn't come up with anything significant other than the radical islam part. | ||
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On January 30 2011 07:24 Pandain wrote: Pandas don't eat humans? And they eat bamboo for 99% of diet? Anyway, will be contributing with my thoughts shortly. I asked my wife and she said that they will occasionally attack humans but it is a very rare occurence. Even though their diet is mostly bamboo they will eat meat. However, pandas probably wouldn't eat the whole body and would leave a very mangled body left over. | ||
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Still deciding who to vote, but most likely jackal58 from evidence and post analysis. | ||
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On January 30 2011 08:43 Jackal58 wrote: Actually there are 3 that really have no attachment unless you really stretch it. 1. chaoser Holden Caulfield - Catcher in the Rye doesn't set off anything 2. darmousseh Gaara - Gravel 3. CubEdIn Raiden - Teleportation - No bodies 4. GMarshal Jonathan Swift - Unless this includes Gulliver's Travels nothing but perhaps time period 5. shannn Q Omnipotent character that can do anything. Including everything in the day post 6. Node Dinosaur Comics Main Cast - Other than squashing log cabins not much 7. Jackal58 Ilich Ramírez Sánchez Comparing pirates to terrorists 8. DoctorHelvetica Thom_Yorke Eye Patch, Eraser, British 9. Mr. Wiggles Yossarian Bombardier, Missing peoples 10. Kenpachi Zaraki Kenpachi Captain, Eyepatch, Blood 11. Pandain Ling Ling Dead Panda. Not much. Perhaps this is the "puzzle" part. 3 that aren't connected? Not a ton of evidence to go on, but no one has really found anything more convincing than jackal58. If anyone find anything more convincing in the next 3-4 hours I might switch my vote. ##Vote: Jackal58 Also remember also the first post mentioned that the setting is 18th century britain so it is unlikely that we should use references to britain or english people as evidence of guilt. | ||
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On January 31 2011 10:56 LSB wrote: I won't actually do modkills this game, since I realize that if Mafia is inactive, the clues can just pown them But I am looking for replacements What will happen then instead? | ||
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Drop the bomb. Exterminate them all. | ||
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On February 01 2011 11:26 Kenpachi wrote: Well did anyone notice "Beethoven" in the openning picture? maybe thats the music sheet o_O Nice, the song listed is not the song pictured, but I don't think that is important. I've played that song before. | ||
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No i mean i played the song that was listed in the picture at the top, not the song from the clue ![]() I will try to figure it out though. | ||
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On February 01 2011 11:41 GMarshal wrote: A passing thought, the pictures could be a kind of puzzle with each picture standing for a word and then 4 out of the 5 words making a relevant phrase, I've been trying some permutations but haven't come up with anything yet. Yeah I'm trying the same thing. The other thought is that they simply relate to 4 clues from the person. | ||
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On February 01 2011 23:30 chaoser wrote: I can't seem to find this anywhere. I mean, I can find the song and I know when you google it+radiohead you get a video of the sound+AN but I can't seem to find the track listed on any of the OST It seems it's reverse. Radiohead has a song named "Motion Picture Soundtrack", however that youtube video is just a homemade video and not the official video. I couldn't find the original. Here's the album though. It was released in 2000. Highly unlikely it was used in a movie that existed 20 years before the album. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_A Another thing to note is that the word "Lego" means "play well" in danish http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Lego I'm still stuck on these clues :p | ||
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"W X Y Z" is a sentence about a very specific character. google W "find a semi related photo google X "find a semi related photo google Y "find a semi related photo google Z "find a semi related photo" google something else and add it to confuse people. So our goal should be to find the keywords for each photo and make a sentence or statement out of it. This is how I'm going to approach it unless someone finds something better. | ||
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Analysis of Raiden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiden_(Mortal_Kombat)#In_other_media Clue #1 Apocalypse Now note saying "drop the bomb". This makes me think of the word "armageddon" which is the title of one of the mortal kombat games. Also someone mentioned his abilities that sound like an explosion. Clue #2 Legos. Lego means "play well" in danish. Mortal Kombat is a game that you play. Both are things you play with. Clue #3 Snow. Nothing yet. Clue #4 Magic. "Raiden commands many supernatural abilities" directly from the wikipedia link Clue #5 Music. Nothing yet. So that is only 3 clues out of 5, but it's the best I've got. I found various references to other people (music to thom yorke, etc), but so far this is the only one I found with more than 1 possible reference. | ||
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Hi everyone. First of all, the Raiden reference. I don't see how it connects to the body disappearances. If you mean the ability to teleport, Raiden has the ability to teleport himself, not other things (at least in the games and movies, but I guess it can be interpreted). Second of all, I got Kenpachi covered, I watched bleach and I liked the character. A few main traits are: - loves battle, lives for it, but is fair, would not kill people with arrows or a wall - uses his sword and that's about it - is really fast and really really powerful, especially when he removes his eye-patch - has a skewed view on honor, I can't really explain this, but basically he'll follow "honor" rules, but doesn't respect many things in general. Also, if he would be killing something, there would be A LOT of blood around. I did a quick look at the profiles and Gaara seems to be the strongest clue (with the crushing and sand and all), but I didn't have time to carefully analyze all of them yet. Will be back in the evening for more hunting. Suggesting gaara is the strongest clue, but then saying he doesn't have time to analyze yet. Crap. Sorry for missing the vote. I've been working on my dissertation paper all night. I forgot to check this as well. I'm really sorry Elesbee. Didn't do any more analysis or contribute and missed the lynching vote. you're right. I'm bad at weekends. And this time i had a horrible monday as well. I'll try and pick up the pace tomorrow. Still inactive On February 01 2011 19:30 CubEdIn wrote: Actually it's god of thunder, so that one is more than a bit of a stretch, but I agree the other two can point to me, somewhat. Some relation to Gaara: "he was rejected by his peers and fellow villagers for being the host of a tailed beast" - legos "Gaara's development from this state into a highly withdrawn, sadistic character" - exterminate them all Also, the snow trails could represent his lonely path to finding adversaries worthy of battling. But ignore that, let's get to the good part. Dr.H. 1. Music -> Thom Yorke - check 2. Legos -> Thom Yorke is in a band, might imply that 3. Apocalypse now -> The Motion Picture Soundtrack (song on OST of Apocalypse Now, the movie) was made by Radiohead, and guess who is the lead singer for Radiohead? Thom Yorke. 4. Hocus Pocus / Cards -> Radiohead has a song called "House of Cards" Need I find more? ![]() Some suspicion is put out and he is the first to respond (so much for being inactive). Also reraises suspecion on gaara for no apparent reason other than to divert attention away from himself. Then immediately finds a few random references (even an obscure one based on a homemade youtube video) and suggests he doesn't need to find more evidence. erm... P.S.: ##Vote DoctorHelvetica 7 minutes later votes for DrH. On February 01 2011 23:42 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah, you're right, it doesn't seem to be in the official OST. I just saw the video posted on youtube, vimeo, and other sites. But it still can't be dismissed as a clue just because it's not on the OST, just not that strong of a clue. Which is what you'd expect from LSB in the first place. ![]() Admits he just randomly found the video (which is only possible if you search for the words "radiohead apocolypse now") then suggests that LSB made the clues very obscure, but from the previous day, it seems once you find the overall reference or theme, the clues just roll together quickly. Analysis, plus 3 clues in my previous post. CubEdIn is mafia | ||
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On February 02 2011 02:42 CubEdIn wrote: P.S.: Q from Star Treck also fits all your findings: #1. He could end all life, give life, etc. => He could easily cause apocalypse #2. Legos! He was playing with Picard, changing the flow of time, etc. #3. Magic... well... supernatural abilities, like you said. Is anyone seriously buying this? Dr.H is clearly tied due to Music + Apocalypse now. There's no way that both of them are wrong. Show me a better connection than Apocalypse Now / Radiohead video. How the hell does "Apocalypse sounds like Armageddon which is part of the tile of a MK movie" fit better than googling: Apocalypse Now Radiohead -> BAM. I think the fact that it's from apocalypse now is actually irrelevant. The note suggests dropping the bomb and killing everyone. From the wikipedia "In Raiden's ending, he becomes extremely powerful after defeating Blaze. To make sure no other realm will possibly threaten Earthrealm again, he destroys them all." | ||
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On February 02 2011 02:51 CubEdIn wrote: Ok. Fine. Since you're so sure, we'll lynch me first. Then, when I flip green, town lynches you and DrH. Deal? Eh i'm not 100% sure about anything yet which is why I haven't voted. | ||
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On February 03 2011 06:46 chaoser wrote: Oops, I mean, right now we're at 7 to 2 if Cube flips green we'll be 5 to 2 if I get lynched we'll be at 3 to 2 (assuming I'm green) I hope at THIS point, you guys lynch Kenpachi/Dr. H if both cubedin and I flip green. So basically we gets 2 mess ups total. Also we will get a ton of information based on who gets killed at night. Also we have veterans (not sure how many). As long as we don't lynch veterans we will get 1 extra chance to find a red. Cubed hasn't claimed vet so I think he is the safest vote we can go with based on clues. If it doesn't work out and we can't find definitive clues tomorrow, then we should go with analysis. | ||
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Clue #1: “Mistah Wiggles, He dead.” is a reference from Heart of Darkness Clue #2 And at that moment, LSB had a terrible heart attack Picture #1: Apocolypse Now reference which is based on Heart of Darkness Picture #2: Two dead aliens. Possible dead of a heart attack Nothing on the other the 3 pictures yet, but those could probably narrow it down. In general there is a common theme which is the word heart. I have found two people whom have the word heart in their wikipedia page and mean something specific Pandain Ling Ling Ling ling died of a heart attack. Chaoser: Holden Caulfield While the cause of death in "Catcher" is leukemia, here it is due to an unspecified heart condition. I'm only putting these up in case I get killed tonight :p. I will be adding further clues as I find them. I think analyzing these people's posts would be good too. Pandain has barely contributed and it's possible pic #3 are bear tracks. Any help would be much appreciated. | ||
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On February 04 2011 12:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Doesn't everyone have to send a message? If not then I propose Myself: AB Node: CD Darmousseh: E This sounds good to me if not every has to give a message. If everyone does have to give a message then I'm looking at other methods, but the best plan i can come up with has a 60% chance of success by default and a 75% chance of success if node and DrH are both townies. We can also separate people whom we suspect are colluding together to increase the odds even more. That plan is Myself ABC Node D DrH E Randomly assign D to 2 others and E to the other 2. The premuation to figure out the percentages is below. + Show Spoiler + M is for Mafia, T is for townie M D D D D D D D D D D E E E E E E E E E E M D D D D E E E E E E D D D D D D E E E E T D E E E D D D E E E D D D E E E D D D E T E D E E D E E D D E D E E D D E D D E D T E E D E E D E D E D E D E D E D D E D D T E E E D E E D E D D E E D E D D E D D D | ||
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Actually I came up with a better plan Myself ABC Node CD Everyone else CE A good (1 - 0) B good (1 - 0) C good (5 - 2) D good (1 - 0) E good (3 - 2) | ||
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If node is by chance mafia, then D will be corrupt which will lead to a townie. We lynch that person and find hes townie and then lynch node next day. If i'm mafia (which i'm not, but for the purpose of the plan) then the clues will be corrupt and we end up lynching the townie and node and finally myself. If both of us are mafia then town wins! after lynching the townie on the first night. In all 3 cases we discover at least 1 mafia and lose at most 2 townies (if i'm lying). I think this is definitely the best plan since we get 100% guaranteed information. | ||
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On February 04 2011 13:40 LSB wrote: Because there exists a solution that would result in instant town win, I will add in a rule. "In order for Bloodycobbler to be able to accept a clue, there must be at least 3 messengers sending in a message" (Note the messages can be corrupted/uncorrupted. So 2 townies, and 1 mafia sending a message would be fine) Dangit LSB I spent like 15 minutes figuring out the perfect plan lol. | ||
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On February 04 2011 13:43 LSB wrote: Ignore that I figured out a way to counter it uh oh, now I have to think of how it could be possibly countered. | ||
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Me townie Node townie Person picked is one of the 5: Lynch => mafia. Me townie Node Mafia Person picked is one of 5: lynch => green, then lynch node Person picked is me, lynch node Me mafia Node townie Person picked is one of 5, lynch => green, lynch node => green, lynch me Person picked is node, lynch => me Me mafia Node mafia Person picked is one of 5, lynch => green, lynch node => red, lynch me In general If the person flipped is me or node then lynch node and then lynch me (if neccesary) If the person flipped is someone else then lynch that person, if that person is green then lynch me and node. (at least one green) The worst possible outcome is 4 town 1 mafia. (minus night kill) The best possible outcome is 6 town 1 mafia. Since I am town this means Worst possible outcome 5 town 1 mafia Best possible outcome 6 town 1 mafia This would be a volunteer job node, if you are mafia you will get yourself killed, otherwise you will help us find a mafia | ||
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![]() Oh and I just realized the counter. The counter plan would be changing the plan at the last second, but if I did that it would be obvious I was scum. Vote for the perfect plan! ##Vote: darmousseh | ||
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On February 04 2011 15:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Alright. ##Vote: darmousseh If you played us witht he Pandain accusation you deserve an award. Really subtle mafia play if so. I have no idea about pandain now, since he was hit then he's either a vet or a green with a medic or the mafia is trying to confuse us all by somehow getting the medic to protect him while hitting themselves. That would be amazing if true. I really thought I had something solid when I found all the clues with the word heart in it. Now I'm not so sure :/ Alright guys this plan is 100% solid though. I've been trying to think of a way to corrupt it, but I can't think of any. If you find any holes please say them. | ||
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On February 04 2011 16:43 shannn wrote: I don't get all of this puzzle mafia thing lol. So if I understand this right. The end result will reveal a name but we don't know what side he is on right? So if you pair him up to another person you'll know what the other side is too? This is so confusing lol. I don't get at the part of darmousseh what happens when both are town. From my understanding it's if no corruption means we'll get a mafia name? Else we get a townie name and then we figure out what the other is after we lynch the townie? Basically we need to get 5 messages to the person. As long as we send the 5 messages uncorrupted, we will get the name of a mafia player. If one of the messages is corrupted, then we will get the name of a townie (we won't know that the message is corrupt). In order to corrupt a message, there have to be at least as many mafia or more sending that message. So in my plan, if node is mafia, then message D will be corrupt which will cause the name revealed to point to a townie since the # of mafia giving the message (1) is greater than the # of townies giving the message (0). My plan works based on the logic of the puzzle. In any scenario we will get the name of 1 mafia. I am town and if node is town then messages A B and D will be good. Message C will also be good since everyone is sending message C and message E will be good since we have 5 people sending it and there are at most 2 mafia in the game. This means we will get the name of a mafia whom we can lynch. You can read about the other scenarios in the post above. Ask if you have more questions. | ||
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On February 04 2011 20:36 Pandain wrote: Why not just do something like this? Dmosh-ABC Chaoser: D Node: E. No matter what we get mafia result, unless I'm missing something. By having everyone else do E as well, we can group E together and make the # of lynches required to figure out the mafia 1 less. There is a simplification of my plan too [Not proposing yet] Darmousseh ABC Node D Everyone else E Here's the thing too, if node is mafia and volunteers, then we discover him and lynch him by 2nd day, if node node is mafia and doesn't like the plan, we can pick someone else to be the 2nd likely townie, and then get a clue pointing towards node or the other mafia. If he is townie, then we will be 100% ok with the plan (unless he finds something all of us didn't catch, but doesn't announce it). | ||
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On February 05 2011 02:26 shannn wrote: As much as you think that's bulletproof there's still the possibility even though it's unlikely at this point that you're mafia. I'm not saying you are but just pointing out that your plan isn't 100% foolproof for town. You might as well be mafia and then we're lynching 2 townies untill we discover that you're mafia and then we don't have any connection to the other mafia if you were. Seems like mafia's best bet to get as less harmfull of this ridiculous good plan. By stalling enough time for town to discover mafia members as late as possible. My scenario above is highly unlikely but just pointing the possible scenario of your plan for you ![]() Very true, if I am mafia then this would be the most optimal choice of my plan, however, a good mafia would never have come up with the plan that will produce a mafia anyway and instead the mafia will be stalling and suggesting that we simply override the vote and continue the game normally. If you believe someone else is more likely green than myself, then suggest that person instead, but I want what is best for town and so i'm willing to volunteer for it. | ||
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On February 05 2011 04:47 shannn wrote: What do u mean with original plan? Darmousseh's plan is the same concept. Take 2 people and lynch the name we get from BC. The scenario's that comes out of it is the same from the plan he posted previous page. The original plan will still get the same results. The will produce identical results. Just keep me and node as the two highest possible townies and go from there. I already voted so lets do it. | ||
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Either chaoser or node is mafia. I guess we will find out soon. I really hope it's chaoser because we trusted node to be green. | ||
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On February 05 2011 12:14 chaoser wrote: GL town, lynch me. and then lynch Darm after, I'm the medic. Why the heck would a medic ever claim being a medic if they were about to be lynched? That would be giving the mafia information and free reign to kill whomever they please with fear of being blocked by the medic. If you are really the medic then claiming to be medic is the worst possible thing you could do to help us win. If you are a medic and truly have the best interest of town in mind, then it's better to claim green or claim vet. The only scenario you could possibly want to do this is if there is a small chance you can influence the lynch otherwise and if you were a vet in order to soak up the next hit from mafia. Given that this situation is highly unlikely, i'm now highly confident node is green and that you are mafia and am glad we won't have to waste a lynch on node or I. | ||
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On February 05 2011 13:50 Kenpachi wrote: oh now we decide to go my way ##Unvote Chaoser ##vote Kenpachi yo dude i think Kenpachi has been spouting random shit and his contributed jackshit + Show Spoiler + no its not sarcasm just being as protown as possible What the heck is going on? | ||
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Lol, you are really a bad mafia DrH if you are mafia. Townies would never be this desperate to deviate from a plan. My guess is that you are going all-in with putting yourself on the line in order to save chaoser or node. Everyone, i've been going under the assumption that DrH was green for almost the entire game giving him pms and talking strategy in order to find the best method to determine the mafia, releaving my plans before I post in the thread sometimes, but in the end I think he just was bussing his entire team to set himself up as the last mafia in order to try to win. If he can convince you to never kill him or the mafia (node or chaoser) then he has won as mafia. Stay with the original plan and we win town ![]() If chaoser is red, i recommend lynching DrH next. | ||
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On February 06 2011 07:12 chaoser wrote: I hope all the conversation revolving around my death/claim will help =D Yeah, if you are the medic chaoser, i'm very sorry you got chosen, but then that means we know node is mafia. We will probably lynch DrH afterwards. | ||
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On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote: If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd. That's a great point. His plan actually sets it up to save node by killing me first followed by killing you. That gives him and node the greatest chance of surviving. | ||
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Also DrH if you are mafia, great idea to keep node alive as long as possible. I'm not 100% confident you are mafia, but you are sure acting like it now. Now that I think about it cubed was right about the clues on day 2 all along. The clues on day 2 don't fit node at all, but they might fit you. Too bad cubed plays so aggressively and scum-like or we might have gone with his clues. Now that I know node is scum, I get to spend time looking for clues in the day 2 post for the actual person to find that last scumbag. Based on the clues on day 2, drh and shann had the most evidence against them on that day other than cubed's insane town play, since chaoser didn't say he protected pandain, he is definitely a vet and my previous clue hunting was flawed. Time to go clue hunting again. | ||
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I'm not 100% convinced DrH is mafia. But he seems to be going back on his word suggesting altering the plan. If DrH is mafia he is taking a huge risk, after we lynch node (whether now or next lynch) DrH immediately becomes suspect #1, so it would seem that is a retarded idea by him since it's such a huge risk. This makes me think that the real mafia is hiding among the remaining participants. If you guys deviate from the plan and kill me tonight, then everyone will regret it. Deviation is exactly what the mafia wants and needs since I came up with a plan that would get 100% guaranteed information. If i was truly mafia I would never have pushed for such a great plan. Look at the first one i contributed. I didn't think it was possible to get guaranteed information so i found a plan with 60% success, but I found a way to get 100% success and now you guys are being tricked into thinking that I am mafia. I will continue looking at the clues to see if i find anything. | ||
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On February 08 2011 13:21 shannn wrote: I thought darmousseh was the one who came up with the plan and with the people. I remember darmousseh making a post about it that he suggested the plan to drH which is suspicious now that he says drH was the one suggesting Node should be the volunteer. And I've said it before. If we got townie out of it then it's still going to be a guess. Post behavior can help us but we don't have much on those 2 in the first place. Node didn't do anything whereas darmousseh did a lot in day 3. It does say something about Node just being quiet but something scummy? We people are forgetting that there are 2 mafia left. The 2nd mafia will help the other mafia in order to get a mafia win right here. We need to tread carefully how we approach this. We know darmousseh or node is mafia and the other one must be helping them just to push for the wrong vote. Kenpachi and Gmarshall being like sheeps should think for themselves rather than listening to others. You 2 are the perfect people to bait for mafia right now. I can't imagine Node being mafia but darmousseh just PM'ed me accusing that Node and I was mafia that both of us are convincing others to vote against darmousseh but like I said before. Node hasn't said anything and I know I'm town. What would the reason darmousseh pming me have if he were mafia? Most logical would be that he's trying to save town which would make me think about it but it may as well be a last ditch effort to bring me off my path to finding mafia. Shann, that was the most brilliant post ever, but I think I just figured it out. So I promised clues and here they are. Suspect Q http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounter_at_Farpoint Q threatens to destroy humanity for its crimes. Using his magical powers he forces picard and the others to pass a test. Twice he freezes people to show his power, once at a random lieutenant, then again he freezes lieutenant yar. Eventually picard and the others discover the secret of farpoint station which is the two trapped aliens. Clue #1 threatens to destroy humanity Clue #2 two trapped aliens, or a reference to the fact that Q froze exactly 2 people.(the aliens are blue which is what they look like in the show too. Also one lego guy has a suit which looks similar to the one in the episode. Clue #3 Q's freezing ability Clue #4 Q's magical ability. Here are some clips from the show + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + The final thing is that the heart of darkness is a reference to the fact that Q judged that humanity was dangerous + Show Spoiler + But you can't deny Captain, that you're still a dangerous, savage child-race. PICARD Most certainly I deny it. I agree that we still were when ... (indicating) ... humans wore costumes like that four hundred years ago... "Q" (MARINE CAPTAIN) At which time you slaughtered millions in silly arguments about how to divide the resources of your little world. And four hundred years before that you were murdering each other in quarrels over tribal god-images. And since there have been no indications that humans will ever change ..... Which is almost the entire premise of the book heart of darkness. My new plan then is this, vote shann and town wins ![]() ##Unvote ##Vote: Shannn | ||
darmousseh
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In the jackal clues, LSB found a single event from the wikipedia and expanded. This is the same, LSB probably went to the page, found the first reference (which is the farpoint station episode) and then picked some stuff from it (Q's freezing ability, the throne room scene, Q's threatening to destroy humanity, his magical powers). Since he said he took the pictures himself, it leads me to believe the alien with the suit is intentional. People had found references to Q earlier, but I think the kicker was remembering the freezing scene and then the snow scene clue makes sense and the fact that it seems to point to a very specific event (farpoint episode). Also on the clues #2 the lego scene is reminiscent of the judgement room in the episode. | ||
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On February 08 2011 14:13 shannn wrote: It is amazing that people are not focussing on the task at hand too. I won't say no to accuse someone but there are 2 people now which atleast 1 of them is mafia. Yet people are now diverting from the plan EVEN the creator. We've figured out the scenario's which is if the lynched is town which is true then the remaining people has atleast 1 mafia. But everyone ignores this. Analysing their post behavior is top priority yet not doing that. Especially with the 2 sheeps, town is surely going to lose when 2 mafia is voting against me. Now that I think you are mafia from the day 2 clues, your volunteering to take node's spot make sense since the clues on you fit for day 2 and there are no clues to fit node yet. If you were in nodes position and got lynched instead of node, then we would have absolutely no clues to go on after that. Since you knew that a mafia would get lynched with my plan, you tried to do what you described earlier as "damage control" and sac yourself in order to ensure that node survives since we have no clues. Node would then probably take that opportunity to criticize DrH and try to get town to mislynch. The reason you did this was because you believed town would stick 100% with my original plan. When DrH started to propose lynching me instead, you used that opportunity to try to win the game, but now you are backed into a corner you didn't see, which is figuring out the clues and lynching you instead. | ||
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Original Message From darmousseh: There is no connection between jonathan swift and heart of darkness. Do you understand that everything that has happened, that you have done, makes perfect sense if you are mafia? | ||
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On February 09 2011 11:18 LSB wrote: Yeah. The thing was you had to figure out that the 4 pictures corresponded to the four parts of the story. Specifically pointing to one thing. Sort of like Jackel, I picked on thing and built a theme around it When I thought about gulliver's travels I saw the lego reference, but I wouldn't describe his hate of the yahoo as xenophobic since yahoos are humans (metaphorically). At that point I gave up since I didn't see anything with music or magic. | ||
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1. cubedin reacting crazily doesn't mean he's mafia. 2. town are sheep 3. don't look too much into clues, i really thought i had it with the Q clues ![]() 4. town aligned players tend to talk a lot more than mafia. 5. Be very suspicious when there aren't very many reactions to a plan (like my plan to determine mafia with the puzzle). | ||
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