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By the way, any particular reason for no death post?  | ||
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As of day 1, there are 8 living players loyal to the Death Eaters, the Death Eater kill power is 3, and there are 10 living players with potential alternate victories remaining. Also this bit of information seems pretty significant. Almost 1/3 of the players have alternate motives that we have to be suspicious of. We have to be aware that a player may act pro-town for much of the game and suddenly betray us to meet their own goals. | ||
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On December 13 2010 02:01 LSB wrote: In all seriousness, Meapak will host Open elections and we should start scumhunting soon Just to confirm, was this your campaign promise Meapak? I was under the impression that you wanted to target a mayor candidate. Mind clearing that up? | ||
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On December 13 2010 10:58 annul wrote: It is the end of the first year up at Hogwarts. Harry Potter recently vanquished Quirrell, navigated the devil's snare trap, the flying key trap, the potion logic trap, and the chess game trap, to get there. In other words, nothing of great significance happened this year. One wonders what might happen in future years to affect the wizarding world and the loyalties of those within. . . Looking back at the night post, anyone find it weird that those three words were bolded? I assume "nothing", "future years" and "loyalties" must be role clues. Not sure what nothing could mean. Maybe Lockhart causing his victims to remember nothing? That could be a role blocker of some sort. Future years probably refers to either Trelawney or Firenze and their ability to predict the future somehow. Loyalties could refer to Snape or some other traitor. | ||
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On December 14 2010 09:41 orgolove wrote: Is this a slip? How do you know they had 3 hits on 3 different people? They could've stacked the hits on one person who happened to be bulletproof. I think the people who got hit need to claim. If it's only one person, then we definitely have a red here. Will those who are hit even be informed that they were hit? | ||
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On December 14 2010 09:57 jcarlsoniv wrote: How would this force mafia to act now? Kinda sounds like scum who wants to know why his hit didn't go through... Well someone confirming they were hit doesn't reveal why they weren't hit. Plus, it gives a confirmed townie to rally around. | ||
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On December 14 2010 10:04 Mr.Zergling wrote: I would indeed like to confirm this, yes I would. Can you also confirm that you group has an alternate win condition? | ||
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On December 14 2010 10:09 annul wrote: you can confirm or deny anything you want relating to your own abilities i would advise the town to read my mod note for gilderoy's flip before placing 100% stock in what people tell you, as even they may be unaware of aspects of their role in the future mod note: was going to be told upon first use of any of the five abilities (or end of night 2) that he only actually has the first ability used, whatever it happens to be. i actually told him earlier than this because i realized the role wouldn't work otherwise. So were the unlynchable and vet abilities considered to be the remaining two of the five abilities, which he needed to activate first? | ||
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On December 14 2010 14:35 LSB wrote: + Show Spoiler [Role Claim] + I am the Traitor. When Name Checked I am ****. When check my role shows up as "no role". When Alignment checked I am death eater. I also count as part of the death eaters when determining the KP. I win with the town. I was planning on giving myself up to the town once we killed a death eater to reduce the overall KP. But now it's too late. Anyways. I do have one special role though. I can pick a member and determine with absolute certainty if he is mafia, and who he killed. This is because I accompany him to the kill and help him do his business. Last night Orgolove hit RoL To prevent later speculation, you accompanied orgolove last night, right? So RoL did not dt check him like you suggested earlier? | ||
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On December 15 2010 01:43 Amber[LighT] wrote: This is not true. RoL was checking Opz before he died, not Orgolove. there is still the possibility that he was trying to push orgolove without role claiming. If that was the case though, I would assume LSB would say so, rather than allow him to get caught up in a lie. Meapak, did you inform LSB that the "scream" referred to a roleblocking ability against you or was LSB the first one to bring it up. If LSB was the first to mention it, I'm not sure how so many people can be accusing him of making it up, unless LSB was part of the team that caused the scream. | ||
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On December 15 2010 06:01 deconduo wrote: Big 'I Told You So' moment coming up. I wish he actually tried to defend himself rather than going afk. It appears he wants to be lynched at this point. It would be nice if he addressed the following questions: Why lie about RoL following oroglove? Why does meapak's role block make him harry? | ||
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On December 16 2010 12:41 LunarDestiny wrote: Let me give the entirety of my winning condition: I win if Parvati Patil, by any manner, wins. I don't know how to interpret the last part. I did some research and Parvati is 100% town. Well, lets get back to decide our next lynch. Your claim makes no sense. Why would your alternate win condition be: "I win if another town wins" The only way this makes sense if one of the two of you are scum. Am I missing something? Are you aware of your twins identity? | ||
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On December 16 2010 13:04 LunarDestiny wrote: My winning condition is as it is stated. Interpret however you want. Also, I don't know who my sister is. Well how do you interpret it? What other way does it make sense unless one of you two are scum? | ||
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On December 16 2010 13:40 Airbag wrote: those characters are not death eaters a little quick to accuse huh? Huh? Did you miss my point? I stated that an alternate win condition between two town members is the same as the general "you win when all the scum die" win condition. If there exists some sort of "house" win condition, then if they are all town, then that is also the same as the general town win condition. | ||
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On December 16 2010 14:14 pevergreen wrote: I figure none of you know who I am, so I'm kinda on a free streak to act however I want. Lets see if I've got this voting thing downpat. Nope, voting without posting a reason makes yourself suspicious. | ||
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On December 16 2010 20:19 why wrote: By the way, we can confirm (at least the characters of) 3 more people. Cho Chang or Roger Davies (the one not in the Ravenclaw House) can confirm by saying they are in the Ravenclaw and having no one dispute them (there are 4 total Ravenclaws on the list, 3 are in the House). There are 5 Gryffindor members on the player list (Harry Potter, Hermione, Colin Creevey, Angelina Johnson, and Pavarti Patil). 3 are in the house. The remaining 2 can claim to be part of the House and, if no one disputes, are confirmed. Coincidentally, I am in Gryffindor. I'm confused. jcarlsoniv lists his town-confirmed gryffindor allies as ghrur and oddo123. By saying that you are in Gryffindor do you mean you are part of this group too? Or are you separate from their group and just happen to have a character from the Gryffindor house? Also, would anyone from the ravenclaw/gryffindor houses like to share their alternate win conditions? | ||
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On December 15 2010 05:28 Node wrote: So I've been substituted in and I think I'm up-to-date with everything that's happened so far. Nothing left to do but jump into it! Voting LSB. Only post in the thread. Not exactly jumping into it, now are we? Mind analyzing the person of your choice so we can at least have something out of you? | ||
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On December 17 2010 05:51 deconduo wrote: I'd recommend ghote to be investigated or lynched. He has one post in the thread and he voted for LSB as MoM. He has 3 hours to make a post or he is dead anyways. We still have 27 hours to vote, correct? | ||
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On December 04 2010 02:33 Radfield wrote: Events in my life are conspiring to keep me from playing mafia. Dr H, lynch me if you must, I don't deny my play has been poor. Sorry team Sounds familiar | ||
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On December 17 2010 09:17 tube wrote: actually i just haven't posted because today is my birthday and i've been hanging with friends/ doing college apps yeah Happy Birthday! So how come you haven't posted the previous 3 days? Its real tough to pick out the scum, when we have 1-2 posts to go by  | ||
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On December 17 2010 10:57 LunarDestiny wrote: Pandain does look suspicious, but he is posting even less in pokemafia. Well I would hope so, he is dead. Even before he died, he was a replacement for only like half a day, so that would probably explain why he didn't post much there. | ||
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Airbag first popped onto my radar when I saw the following post by jcarl: On December 16 2010 14:05 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hey Airbag, what ever happened to this? I imagine he'll be valuable tomorrow or day 4. Based on his sign-up date and quality of posting it was relatively clear that Airbag was a scum rather than a noob. Which made be question why on earth would the medic claim so early in the game. DrH himself made fun of coag for doing the same thing in the previous game. So I started pming him and here is where it lead: + Show Spoiler + Original Message From Airbag: That's a fair point. One reason I'm worried about name claiming is the threat of modkill from annul. Yes I'm a smurf. I was poking around as a noob to see if anybody would try to manipulate me via PM. LSB did and guess what he turned out to be? Jcarl claimed his role pretty quickly afterward so I'm pretty inclined to trust him. Yes I'm Pomfrey. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From kitaman27: Well here is my thought process. You are either a newbie or a smurf. I'm guessing the latter based upon your posts. From what it sounds like, you claimed medic to jcarl. I'm wondering why someone like yourself would be willing to medic claim. Either jcarl is a confirmed townie or you claimed medic as a way to gain his trust. Based on your response that you switched off Amber to Kenpachi, you seem to be sticking with your medic story. So you trust me enough to confirm your role, but not enough to state your name? The only reason I can think that you would be willing to give up one, but not the other is the case that you are worried about a duplicate name claim. Thoughts? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: I'm not name claiming yet. The circles have been leaky and I'm not completely confident that you're town. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From kitaman27: Ya I found it weird he would call you out like that rather than solve it in a pm. So you are Pomfrey? Airbag goes from not completely trusting me as town, to role claiming in a matter of minutes. What's even more odd? I had already recieved a pm that a dt type role had already located a Pomfrey. I pm'd annul to confirm that there were not duplicate role claims and he said that I was correct. That leads us to the fact that one of the two sources is lying. What do we do with liars? We lynch them. To further my case, here are some relevant posts: After a bunch of seemingly pro-town posts, here is the first one that pops out: On December 11 2010 13:54 Airbag wrote: hm thats a good point about LSB I'm not comfortable having him lynched since he is experienced but maybe he's good for a night 1 dt check? if we have a normal dt that is ToT The perfect situation for mafia. LSB is allowed to live, but a dt is used to help figure out what type of catch the Snape role is. On December 12 2010 11:47 Airbag wrote: I really feel now that if the mayor is elected honestly he should lynch LSB im thinking about what his goal and intention is: 1. to control/direct town the way HE wants it 2. to make a private vote (if he is mafia easily he can pretend they voted differently than they did) 3. fished on me to see if I might be blue 4. more interested in defending himself and making HIMSELF look good and pro-town than he is to actually find and kill mafia/contribute something useful that sort of arrogant attitude sounds like a mafia trying to force our trust and make us follow him who is better to lynch at this point? The Death Eaters aren't stupid. They know Snape is a good guy in the books. As a result, its extremely likely they take care of him early on due to traitor suspicions. Even more beneficial, they appear "pro-town" for taking out one of their own. Ask yourself this, if you were a death eater, would you want Snape around on your team? On December 16 2010 11:15 Airbag wrote: Dumbledore is dead? This is bad. The death eaters have been too good at blue sniping in this game. Is this all damage done by LSB or are there leaky circles? For now I'm not feeling good about Kenpachi but we should give him the benefit of the doubt. You're not feeling good about Kenpachi, yet you decided to move your protect off Amber to protect him? Hmm thats strange. On December 15 2010 08:40 Airbag wrote: It's really not gonna look good for you if he turns out to be a death eater. Easy for you to say, when you already know he is going to pop up scum. On December 16 2010 13:08 Airbag wrote: It seems pretty clear there was some sort of leak in a circle. So far I know there is a circle with: oddo123 deconduo jcarlsoniv Role fishing? As jcarl revealed later, deconduo is not part of the confirmed town group. On December 17 2010 08:33 Airbag wrote: With permission from annul granted in this thread, I'll be switching to my real account. Anyone find it a bit odd that he would even do this? The only motivation I can see is that he wanted to use his influence as a mafia veteran to steer the town one way or another. I pm'd zek questioning why he would vote for kenpachi. His response: On December 17 2010 11:38 zeks wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Why Sorry for the quick switch - but realized Airbag had switched too I've decided to put my trust in him for now after picking off LSB In summary, DrH claimed medic to individuals in order to gain their trust He makes a duplicate name claim, showing that he is lyingI It is true that he helped lynch LSB, but so did nearly everyone. It was almost unanimous afterall. In addition, lynching Snape can be beneficial to the mafia by eliminating a traitor and gaining town trust. In response, it is likely that DrH will paint me as scum that is trying to take out the town medic. Please ask yourself, why would I be willing to make a 1:1 mafia for town exchange. If after the lynch, he pops Pomfrey, then by all means, take me out next. Either way, we get a death eater. Lynch DrH | ||
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On December 18 2010 02:16 Barundar wrote: Kitaman I feel like I'm missing something here. You say another one claimed Poppy, and that we should lynch both. I agree. So who is this other Poppy, in case you are lying to us about DrH? Are you asking me to publicly reveal Poppy's identity? That leads the mafia right to her. In the case that DrH does not come up scum (which won't happen) I will reveal the other Poppy. You may lynch me if I don't. At this time, however, DrH has been far more sneaky of the two. | ||
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On December 18 2010 02:20 CubEdIn wrote: I think he's saying that HE is Pomfrey, no? I say we ask annul to modkill both for role-claiming. Then we can have our lynch + a sure mafia. GG NP! 1) lol if I'm Pomfrey then I obviously wouldn't call out him myself. I would ask a pro-town person like jcarl to write up an accusation in my place. Interesting that we got two role fishes as the first two responses, however. 2) You want me to be modkilled? Don't recall ever claiming :p | ||
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On December 18 2010 02:28 Barundar wrote: I was refering to this sentence by Kitaman. He states we lynch them, but he only mentions one. We can only lynch one at a time. DrH makes an uncharacteristic role claim, while the other gets checked by a dt. DrH obviously seems more suspicious. Why reveal both names? | ||
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On December 18 2010 02:35 deconduo wrote: 99% sure Doc H isn't mafia. If you read one of my previous posts, LSB gave me PMs with the 2 of them talking. There was absolutely no reason for LSB to fake PMs from another mafia member at that point in the game. Here they are again: + Show Spoiler + I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself... ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: If you want, you can be the auditor. The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote. Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier. If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority. Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it. Didn't the whole LBS situation seem a little fishy to you though? He practically role claimed scum for some weird 1:1 trade with oroglove. PM's can be fabricated. In the previous game, there was a decent amount of discussion on mafia and fake pms. Why fake role claim if you are clean? | ||
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On December 18 2010 02:55 Barundar wrote: Sorry but I can't help but notice this comes up after there is pressure on why and pandain, and the moment I question the reasoning I get yelled at for fishing + I get PM's asking to my thoughts out of nowhere. From Pandain. Coordinated attack? Do you still disagree that the second medic should remain hidden until DrH's alignment has been revealed? I'm still not sure why the real medic should claim publicly. You think I'm working with pandain? I had my vote on pandain before this. When DrH flips red, I would suggest he is looked into as well based on how much he is soft defending him. | ||
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On December 18 2010 02:49 deconduo wrote: ##Vote Kitaman | ||
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On December 18 2010 04:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: No we should lynch Pandain. If pandain flips red then we'll lynch drh, if pandain is green then drh is somewhat cleared. I'd rather not lynch drh on the ouside chance he is a medic. But look at pandain, if drh is mafia than it would appear as though he switched identities in order to better defend pandain. Now (again speculating that drh is mafia) pandain must have a pretty valuable role for drh to have come out of hiding specifcally to defend him. Therefore if both drh and pandain are mafia than it makes more sense to lynch pandain first. If Pandain pops up green then we have nothing on DrH. Mafia defend townies all the time. It was DrH that was caught lying, not Pandain. We should lynch DrH first and analyze from there. | ||
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On December 18 2010 06:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: A DT can check me and confirm I am indeed Poppy Pomfrey. Someone already lied to Meapak and said they alignment checked me and found out I was red which annul confirmed could not happen. Kitaman won't tell who counter claimed but good job telling the mafia that I'm the healer. Hopefully the Bus Driver won't be stupid today and he'll switch me with somebody else so I don't die tonight. Elder. Cough Cough. | ||
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On December 18 2010 06:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I can't say anything to that except "No, I am Poppy Pomfrey and not the elder" so this doesn't really take the discussion anywhere. "found out I was red which annul confirmed could not happen." Wait a minute, are you saying annul confirmed you are not red? PM please? | ||
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On December 18 2010 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: annul specifically told me I could not quote it since you can not use direct mod quotes to confirm your alignment. I knew there were no insane roles because I read that in the OP. I asked annul why I would be alignment checked as red and he said that is impossible. I figured "hey maybe a bus driver switched me with a death eater so he got a bogus result" and he confirmed that is impossible as well. So the only explanation is that person lied to make me look red. I'd like to know who it was. I'm not going to allow you to change the subject anyways. I have called for your lynch because your double pommy claim contradiction and your scummy play, not because of some alignment check. If you are indeed medic, why role claim day one. Certainly that isn't something you approve of is it? | ||
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On December 18 2010 07:19 Coagulation wrote: its clearly based on pandains 1 post every 3 days being 3 minutes after lunardestiny post's that someone just roleclaimed DT Plus we all know how pandain loves to fake roleclaims (Even fakes roleclaims when hes town WTF?) Lets not let DrH spam the thread. I offer myself, the dt, and the medic he checked for lynch if we are wrong. Lynch DrH | ||
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On December 18 2010 07:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No matter what Pandain pops you should die because your posts = scum. It's that simple. I'm not basing everything on who is maybe defending someone else because that's a bullshit scumhunting tactic that rarely works. Scum fake disagreements, they attack eachother, they defend townies, this happens all the time. I would like to remind the town that DrH has been dodging my question and trying to move suspicion to one of his attackers. DrH why would you claim medic? That is something you clearly opposed in Salem. | ||
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On December 18 2010 07:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If mafia take the bait and try to railroad me like LSB did then I'm perfectly fine going 1:1. I trusted jcarls because he claimed his mason circle to me very early, something scum would never do. You're prefectly fine going 1:1? Fine. You and me are clearly not aligned. Since I was the one that caught you lying, we lynch you first. If you pop town, then we lynch me. 1:1 trade. Everyone happy? | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You've already been lynched. If I'm correct voting ended 10 minutes ago. We'll see what happens. No, voting ends at 7pm est as Annul stated. It is currently 6:14pm est. Please don't mislead the town into thinking its too late. | ||
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On December 18 2010 07:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If mafia take the bait and try to railroad me like LSB did then I'm perfectly fine going 1:1. I trusted jcarls because he claimed his mason circle to me very early, something scum would never do. Is the rest of the town seriously ok with this response? He is saying he is baiting a mafia by claiming medic. Yet he is also saying he claimed to jcarl because he trusts him. What stops the mafia from just killing you after you claim medic. You're not making sense. Everyone be careful of a last minute mafia ninja towards Why. | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yeah it couldn't be that I just misunderstood the time zone difference it must be a secret plan to mislead everybody. Don't be ridiculous. Sorry if you took offense. P.S. Watch out for your 10k post if you plan to use it for something special | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Oh kitaman's lies and misdirection stacks up I see. Seems like he is desperate to get me lynched, not above making shit up at all. Perhaps a bit too desperate to be mafia but look at how far scum went in Insane Mafia to get me killed. Not too implausible. You agree I'm not scum? Great. Then I'm not lying about you being scum. Awesome. Lets lynch you now that we agree. | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:27 LunarDestiny wrote: I say yes. He did almost nothing in the game. Then a lot of people voted to lynch him. The moment I say, "If you are Kitaman's dt, please claim to me" Pandain claimed to me immediately. But he is not Kitaman's dt. So he went from lurkering, to being lynch. The moment he saw a chance to survive, he suddenly becomes active like shit. Now he is saying that a tracker/watcher contacted him. WTF. DrH was the one caught lying. Pandain has been scummy, but DrH is a sure thing. | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:36 CubEdIn wrote: Sorry, but unless I missed something, it's only you that can so far confirm that you have a "double" for DrH's role. So shouldn't the "double" be lynched? DrH first and if not I'll reveal the other double. Guaranteed scum kill there. I'm not saying you're lying, but the fact that you came out with this a few hours before the night and you already got a ton of votes make me feel very suspicious. Either you're trying to protect Pandain, but make it less obvious by disagreeing with him, or you have something to gain if DrH dies tonight. Yes I have something to gain if DrH dies tonight. The whole town does. He is a death eater. No, I did not come a few hours before night. I came out at noon. That is more than enough time for the town to make an educated decision and for DrH to respond to my accusation. I'm sorry, but it seems too easy to say: If he's not red, then lynch me. So far we've seen two unlynchables in this game. How do we know you're not a third? If this would've happened yesterday, DrH would've been clearly the lynch for this phase of the game, but so close to night end? And a wagon of 6-7 votes looks suspicious, you must at least admit that. Huh? Why would a mafia be unlychable? That would mean they can never die. | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He also said that if I were checked I would come back town and that is impossible that I returned a death-eater aligned result. Whoever said that is lying. The reason he said that is because you are elder. | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:54 CubEdIn wrote: Fair enough, then how did the DT find out he is mafia? What's the point of the elder if he turns out red in dt checks? Your accusation is starting to look very full of holes. I accused DrH because the real medic was already checked. That resulted in a double medic claim. I did not have DrH dt checked. | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This argument is shitty because you are assuming that I am the Elder and that they are the "real medic". Is is not possible that it is the opposite scenario? Yes. But the other medic did not claim day one. Thus, you get lynched first. Surely you are happy about a 1:1 scum trade right? | ||
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On December 18 2010 09:03 ilovejonn wrote: No, I have a placeholder, re read the last page. Kinda weird that you refused to commit either way while waiting for time to run out. By the way, you know placeholder votes go in the voting thread next time, right? | ||
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On December 18 2010 09:09 ilovejonn wrote: That is a pretty ridiculous claim, if Dr.H flips green there are clear signs of liars, and yet you want to waste a lynch on me? Look, I am not a lie detector okay? I need time to process my thoughts, I haven't even ate yet since I woke up to read through the pages. If I vote for someone I need to at least give a reason and not just bandwagon. And when DrH flips red there are still better choices than ilovejonn. But lets not get ahead of ourselves. | ||
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Town riot if it takes more than an hour. | ||
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On December 18 2010 18:54 Barundar wrote: I don't think so. Neither Pandain nor DrH voted for each others, why would they do that if it could save them. My guess is Pandain checked DrH and confirmed him. If anything this proves to me I was wrong about Kitaman, he made it sound like both of them was scum... You've got to be kidding me. I 100% was pushing DrH. You were the one that tried to do a last minute switch over to the dt. FoS Barundar FoS CubEdIn You promissed me your vote give that certain conditions were met and you went afk FoS deconduo Absent for the entire day FoS ~OpZ~ And of course a big FoS DrH Nevertheless, DrH dies at tomorrow's lynch. Vig hit would speed up the process. | ||
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On December 19 2010 00:08 deconduo wrote: You are being extremely fucking stupid. I promised you my vote? WTF? You are talking out of your hole. + Show Spoiler + Original Message From kitaman27: DrH posted in the thread he knew jcarl was town. There is your timeline. Will you change your opinion of him now? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Timelines. I bet he claimed well before jcarl said he was in the gryffindor house. If not, then I will change my opinion of him because that would be a really scummy thing to do. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From kitaman27: The problem is that he made the same claim to our mod-confirmed townie. What reason is there to deceive jcarl? It seems more like a move to gain his trust by medic claiming as an apparent noob. I guess you are entitled to your opinion I'm not sure spreading the vote out to oroglove, node or tube helps focus the lynch though. I said I would change my opinion on him. NOTHING about voting for him, or giving you my vote. Of course you were wrong/lying as well, the timelines did fit. Last night DrH was DEFENDING pandain, even with his own ass on the line. You are telling me thats scum play? Clearly you need to learn how to play this game. "Timelines. I bet he claimed well before jcarl said he was in the gryffindor house. If not, then I will change my opinion of him because that would be a really scummy thing to do." DrH DID NOT claim well before jcarl told him he was in the gryffindor house. I assumed "change my opinion because that would be really scummy" meant you would vote for him since the timelines DID NOT fit. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica wrote: I trusted jcarls because he claimed his mason circle to me very early, something scum would never do. This came first. "I bet he claimed well before jcarl said he was in the gryffindor house. If not, then I will change my opinion of him because that would be a really scummy thing to do." See? jcarl claimed mason, then DrH medic claimed. He did not claim well before. Still DrH, not you, remains the target. | ||
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5. pevergreen (who replaced ghrur) - -apparently town alligned, but doesn't respond to allies pm's 14. Node - At least shows up to vote, but still no posts. 19. oddo123 -apparently town alligned, but doesn't respond to allies pm's 21. ~OpZ~ -absent 27. Mr.Zergling -absent 29. zeks -shows up to state that he isn't going to vote 30. tube - has no posts and votes for our confirmed dt. Modkill? 31. GGQ -absent | ||
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----------------------------------------- Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: No I didn't protect Amber. I protected Kenpachi last night and he was hit. I haven't been reading the thread as much as I should have been. I'll share my opinions later. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From kitaman27: heh figures the Doctor gets the medic role So I take it that you were the one that protected Amber night one? He seemed to claim vet or something after the hit. Not sure why. This should be more than enough evidence against DrH now. Amber clearly wasn't some type of vet role as she claimed so she had to have been protected night one. The only possibility is that there are two medics, however if that is true it doesn't make sense for both of them to name claim Pomfrey. DrH also claims to have protected kenpachi and says he was hit. I gave kenpachi multiple pms to try and confirm this but he was afk. All three kp were accounted for on night two so this is clearly a lie. If I die do not allow DrH or his scumbuddies to use the excuse that "the mafia clearly killed me to make him look suspicions" | ||
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On December 19 2010 05:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: meapak saved amber on night one. it is clear also that a bus driver switched somebody with kenpachi, thus explaining the third hit. But you said kenpachi was hit. Now you are saying he was bus driver switched? | ||
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On December 19 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: yes meaning he was hit and the death was redirected. How would you know he was hit then? Unless you were the one sending the hit? | ||
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On December 19 2010 07:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: EBWOP what drh said is false, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I protected myself night one. Is that enough to get you to trust me? Another lie. | ||
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On December 19 2010 18:31 CubEdIn wrote: Well then it means that he wasn't hit anyway. And that he lied. I don't really like this game much. It's like house. Everyone lies. He was a green. Both Amber and the real medic said that he was hit. Are you saying they both lied? You seem pretty insistent to brush away this issue. | ||
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On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: And I would probably just shut up and oblige, but from what I see so far, the PM circles blow. We lost a ton of blues, a ton of DTs, and we got one mafia who may or may not have turned town. Fair enough, but the only two of those that I was in contact with was Kenpachi, who was modkilled, and Pandain, who was lynched while I pushed for DrH. The leak hasn't come from my circle. On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: Now, even if town gets successful lynches every night, it's still very much in trouble. So no, I won't take people who lie lightly. Yet you give DrH a free pass? On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: Unfortunately, the Amber thing is irrelevant to me now, because, even though he lied, he is dead. But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one. On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote: Just wait for the night post. Agreed. DrH has not been protected by the real medic and he stated earlier in a pm that he cannot protect himself so if he survives the night hits then its pretty clear he is guilty. He will probably say the mafia let him live to create suspicion, but they really let him live because he is their leader. Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. | ||
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On December 19 2010 09:39 ~OpZ~ wrote: -er-....i would of voted pandain again. i had absolutely zero to say about the discussion, and i thought pandain was scum. i've never seen him play like that before, and when i get on my comp and off my phone, ill post my analysis of him. personally i think im weak at analysis. atleast when im not 100% sure like you seem to be about drH. i was even noting the connection between the two. pandain played completely unlike himself, and i thought he was scum. ive pointed it out all game. my vote wasnt changing, so screw that for FoSing me. noT yo mention i was voting for RoL on the sole stipulation he lynched LSB. would you like me to look at someone tomorrow? Its tough to give a free pass to those who lynched the dt, when I had proposed a 1:1 trade for scum. If you believe that I am 100% sure, then why would you vote for pandain again? I agree his weird "claim" to be my dt was bizarre, but DrH was the sure thing. If you want to look at someone, I would suggest waiting until after the DrH lynch, but the choice is yours. | ||
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On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote: So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far. You must have missed this, or chose to ignore it, but Meapak claimed a type of medic too. DrH stated that Meapak protected Amber night one and Meapak responded that this was a lie. The real pomfrey told me that they protected Amber night one. That means the other pomfrey is a fraud. On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote: What really? You would want him to try and "out" the other person? That would be incredibly anti-town. Seriously, if you're wrong about him, when DrH dies, you will have to produce the other person or else it's your head that will roll 100%. Why would he try and give the mafia a free hit? (assuming you are correct, and that other medic is the real one). You are either confused or defending your scumbuddy to the death. That makes no sense at all. They both claimed the same name. One of them is scum, the other is not. If DrH is pomfrey then he knows 100% that the other medic is scum. This would NOT be giving the mafia a free hit. On December 20 2010 00:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: Just gonna correct this, but he has asked you numerous times to produce both the medic, and dt that called him out. So this is incorrect to say. I will not say that it makes him any less scummy tho, but I can understand why you'd want someone calling you red to come out. He's arguing with you, and you're nothing more than a proxy. I just read through all his posts and couldn't find a reference to where he asked me to produce the other medic and the dt that checked the real medic. Though he has suggested numerous times that he is ok with a 1:1 trade, but then follows that up by saying I'm scum so I won't reveal the other medic. Lets follow his wishes and lynch him tonight, and we can lynch the other medic the next day. On December 20 2010 00:46 ~OpZ~ wrote: No Cubedin, DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person, I believe, the story is has gotten name checked as Pomfrey by Kenpachi? Yes DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person has been checked as Pomfrey, but that person was not kenpachi. | ||
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On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote: Well you're right. I'm confused as hell. I understood that there are two Pomfreys. I understood that someone protected Amber, but that someone was not DrH (or Meapakk). However, I don't see why this constitutes a case against DrH, that's all. Just try to EXPLAIN other than incriminate me. DrH claimed medic, correct? Then how would he know what Meapakk did? And why would he say that meapakk defended Amber if he didn't know that for sure. These are things that I just don't understand. I did not bring up my case against DrH because he did not protect Amber. I didn't even bring this up until after the Pandain lynch. Here is the thought process: 1) Two people claim to be Pomfrey 2) I must decide which of the two is more scummy to push for lynch reasons against DrH: -He claimed medic on day one/two to multiple people after stating what a dumb move this is in Salem -He starts off as a smurf and then switches to his real account to influence the town -The other pomfrey was checked by a dt 3) I publicly reveal DrH's claim as pomfrey and push for his lynch 4) The mafia know whether or not DrH is the real pomfrey, they choose to spare him. Instead, the only people who vote DrH are myself, a couple of mod-confirmed townies, and a few others. Rather than taking a 1:1 trade the town decides to push someone they deem more suspicious, who turns out to be a dt. Why did he say Meapak protected Amber? To cover the fact that Amber wasn't protected by him. This later was shown to be a lie. On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote: Again, you're looking at this from your perspective alone. I do not know that there are two people who claimed Pomfrey. Only YOU know that, we just have to believe you. So from my point of view, I know that DrH said he's Pomfrey and that you said that's a lie. Even if DrH IS pomfrey, then he has YOU, who KNOWS who that other guy is, and when he flips green you will HAVE to give us his identity. I don't think anyone has denied the fact that there are two Pomfrey claims. Above you even admit its probably true with "I understood that there are two Pomfreys." If after the DrH lynch, I refuse to give up the other Pomfrey then I will vote myself for lynch. I suggest you do as well. On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote: Explain to me how my logic doesn't work? Why would anyone reveal the identity of BOTH people who claimed Pomfrey in the thread? Really, just try to slowly explain it to me as if I was a retard. Scenario 1 -> DrH is blue. => The other Pomfrey is a red. They would not kill DrH because then you would out the red. Unless they could kill all the people who know the red's identity, they would have to let DrH live. It would be in Mafia's interest that the town doesn't know the red's identity, correct? Scenario 2 -> DrH is red. => The other Pomfrey is blue. Mafia would like to know his name because he's a medic. It would be in Mafia's interest that the medic is revealed to the town (and to them, obviously). -> this would be giving mafia a free hit, it's what I was referring to. Claiming in public = free information for Mafia. That's how I see it. Please explain where I am wrong, because I feel pretty retarded right now. Agreed. I am not revealing the other medic until DrH is dead. That is what I have been saying. The problem was that if DrH is Pomfrey then he must know the other Pomfrey is red. I know if I were in his place I would be desperate to stop the fake claimer rather than brush off the accusation and focus my efforts on some weak gryffindor claim by Why. | ||
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On December 18 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He also said that if I were checked I would come back town and that is impossible that I returned a death-eater aligned result. Whoever said that is lying. lol what? My dt checked a pomfrey. My dt did not check DrH as red. Don't fall for this misdirection. On December 18 2010 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm not lying. Your DT can go ahead and check me so we can lynch the fake claimer. He is not calling for the dt's identity. He is asking the dt to check him because he is the elder. On December 18 2010 18:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So I'm FoS'd for defending our DT and protecting the other one right? Good logic. Maybe we can lynch all those fake DT's who said I was red now. All those fake Dt's that said he was red? Again misdirection. My dt checked someone that came up pomfrey. My dt did not check him as red. | ||
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On December 20 2010 06:36 deconduo wrote: 3. Airbag/DoctorHelvetica 11. CubEdIn 12. Meapak_Ziphh 9. Coagulation 13. Barundar 14. Node 15. chaoser 17. kitaman27 20. orgolove 21. ~OpZ~ 30. tube All remaining mafia are in this group somewhere, along with Ollivander, Nicolas Flamel and either Harry/Hermione. All we need to work out is which is which. Opps, you forgot one. Let me fix that for you. ##Vote DrH | ||
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On December 20 2010 06:49 deconduo wrote: Because I don't think he is. And considering this is potential mylo, I'd like to know who his counterclaim is. We have no information except that 'someone investigated someone and that someone was Poppy and not drh and then someone told kitaman' Huge help that is. Please explain to me why you don't think DrH is Lord Voldermont. He claimed medic day one, lied about Meapak protecting Amber night one, he lied about protecting kenpachi night two, he switches to his real account to influence the town. We wouldn't be in a potential mylo situation if the town had listened to me in the first place. Can you also please elaborate on your potential death condition tomorrow? | ||
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On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote: I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. lol? Because he double name claimed. On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote: One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman. You are trying to discredit my claim by making it sound overly confusing. A dt checked the real Poppy. DrH later claims Poppy. DrH should be lynched. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. Yes we do. DrH said kenpachi was hit night two. The hit points are all accounted for. When I called him on it, he later changed his story that kenpachi was bus-drivered instead. If he was bus-drivered then he never would have known he was hit in the first place. His claims are all over the place. This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal. lol early in the day? I started this bandwagon on Friday morning. Cmon now. | ||
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On December 20 2010 07:37 annul wrote: if this is true, then he was cheating. next time someone blatantly cheats in PM land, report it. they get modkilled. For the record, I didn't ask him to claim to me. | ||
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On December 20 2010 08:03 CubEdIn wrote: Meh, my power is a bit odd. I can't tell who checks my target, or what they do. But once I check someone, I can see actions against them for the rest of the game (or until I die). If any of the other "watches" could be verified I would have said something. But the other watches were rather useless. Night #1: LSB. He was visited by someone. Night #2: Airbag. He was not visited by anyone. Night #3: Airbag. He was visited by someone & zeks - he was also visited by someone, obviously. I know it's convenient, but I checked LSB because he was scummy as hell. And I checked zeks because he seemed very pro-town, but in last night's debacle he chose not to vote, which I found very suspicious. So yeah. I can check whoever you want me to check, and I'll still have my sights on Airbag. "camera fanatic. able to take a picture of a player once per game. because pictures move in the wizarding world, you are able to see every action that player takes (but not the target)." Fair enough I somewhat trust you now. I take it this is what you are claiming? | ||
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On December 20 2010 07:55 Mr.Zergling wrote: I am kind of a mixed role: DT/Roleblocker/Medic Meapak already hinted at ollivander so you can remove him off your list. Chaoser was replaced by Gabriel. | ||
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On December 20 2010 08:32 CubEdIn wrote: Well, after the game started, I watched the entire Harry Potter series and realized why my character had this power. It made sense in the movie, at least, I don't know about the books. Either way, as I told pandain and others in this game. I'm not fond of claiming names. It ruins the game (obviously). If you guys think you can use my powers, then just tell me who to track (via PM, preferably) and I will. If not, then don't. I have shared as much as I could, if not too much. Lets wait to resolve this mess until later. DrH is our target right now. | ||
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On December 20 2010 08:51 Barundar wrote: I think Kitaman is lying about extra DT and whatnot. Based on his dedication, Jcarl "confirmed" him. Obvious he is Voldemort or real Poppy, and at the moment it's down to a flip between him and DrH. Kitaman said DrH and Pandain was scum. DrH said Pandain was not scum. Kitaman could have been lying about both. DrH could have been right about Pandain beceause he was scum. Town would be safer to find scum elsewhere. vote Coagulation lolz | ||
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On December 20 2010 09:07 Barundar wrote: So you deny? I'm very aware its mislynch or lose. I see 7 mafia alive, and a shortlist of people it can be. There is a better chance of hitting scum from that list than through kitaman/drh You think I'm lying about my Dt? Lunar already confirmed the existence of my dt. Are you saying me, my dt and lunar are all lying? | ||
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On December 20 2010 09:23 Barundar wrote: I say you are lying about your identity, and it hurts town. Especially when it's so glaringly obvious. How are we supposed to trust you? Deconduo's list. So first I'm lying about my dt and now I'm lying about my identity? Heh. | ||
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On December 20 2010 10:58 Mr.Zergling wrote: Here we go, one part of powers is gender DT, and Kitaman is female Sigh I suppose I better role claim then + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.ohthescandal.com/home/getithere/sites/ohthescandal.com/htdocs/wp-content/uploads/potter_bra.jpg) You are a cross-dressing Harry Potter. By day you the hero of the wizarding world, but by night you let your feminine side go wild. All gender checks that take place during the night will appear as female. You win with town. | ||
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On December 20 2010 14:06 orgolove wrote: With all this lynching of DrH, I can't help but bring back the spectres of annul's last victory in DrH's experimental Mafia. Just like this, we had seen a "confirmed" blue/group of blues 100% sure that the person we were lynching is a red. Then suddenly, the person that EVERYBODY was so sure about, that he was such a definite blue, turned out to be a master of disguise. I'm looking at you Annul. This is a truly crucial lynch for us. Are we 100% sure that the person leading the charge is clearly a blue? In this game, there has been clear instances where 1) targets of actions were switched 2) many, many confirmed blues lied (see: the veteran claim) 3) people fake roleclaimed Here again it feels like we are being led on by the tongue through the fingers of a godfather or some other sort of role that lets you hide your true identity. And I'm getting a similar vibe from the people leading the discussion to lynch DrH right now - why specifically. *Facepalm Might I suggest that the mafia take this time to bus your scumbuddy? I'm really getting tired of responding to these type of posts. | ||
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On December 20 2010 15:02 orgolove wrote: I'm hardly inclined to trust you when even confirmed blues... you know... lied? So Amber trying to draw a second hit must mean I'm lying about a totally unrelated subject, right? | ||
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On December 20 2010 17:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok so the last PM I sent to GGQ before his death was suggesting he bus me with drh. Since he died I don't know if his role went through but if it did and he bussed who I suggested than that might explain why drh was visited. Mind if I ask why? I clearly suggested a vig hit on him last night..... | ||
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On December 21 2010 00:24 kitaman27 wrote: Mind if I ask why? I clearly suggested a vig hit on him last night..... Nevermind. I forgot it would kill him if they decided to hit you. | ||
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On December 21 2010 13:35 Gabriel wrote: Voting DRH and playing my "lurker" card. grats on your second post | ||
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On December 21 2010 13:50 Coagulation wrote: mafia feel free to support your scum leader anytime. sorta like you did yesterday? :/ | ||
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On December 17 2010 12:15 Coagulation wrote: ##vote Pandain Yes pandain was scummy, blah blah blah | ||
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On December 21 2010 14:13 Coagulation wrote: you fucking voted him too. The only reason i didnt jump on the lynch DOCH bandwagon earlier is because i have no access to your town circle how the fuck am i supposed to believe anything you guys said 100% if i dont know if ur fucking mafia or not. anyway at this point based on the way doch has completely given up on defending himself he is 100% scum The difference is my vote changed after the DrH double name claim debacle, yours did not. You didn't have to believe us 100%. You had to make the best decision based on the information provided. Considering the evidence against DrH, I think that best decision was pretty clear. There are several others who came out looking far worse, however, so no worries just yet. | ||
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On December 22 2010 01:11 annul wrote: i have gotten news of cheats in this game. Gabriel (who replaced chaoser) the Parvati Patil has been modkilled. + Show Spoiler + you have replaced chaoser. ********************************** you are Parvati Patil! you love your sister, Padma Patil, so much, that if she wins the game by any manner, you will consider it a personal victory as well! you are otherwise powerless. you win with town. thank you to the person -- who i will keep unidentified -- who brought this to my attention. evidently gabriel name claimed without provocation in PM land. ;( 3 players with alt wins remain. Whoa he potentially ruins not one, but two games? What a jerk. I have a feeling there is something lunar is not telling us based on the alternate win condtion, but things are looking pretty grim. Town pretty much has to agree on the next 6 lynches without a single stray vote. | ||
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9-6 current 7-6 night hits 7-5 lynch 5-5 night hits (town lose) The two modkills were very unfortunate. It basically means we have to stop a hit tonight even if we correctly lynch for the remainder of the game. I have an idea of the lynch order, but I won't reveal it just yet. Is the receiver of the Potter ability allowed to role claim via to others? | ||
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On December 22 2010 06:52 kitaman27 wrote: 15 remain: 9-6 current 7-6 night hits 7-5 lynch 5-5 night hits (town lose) The two modkills were very unfortunate. It basically means we have to stop a hit tonight even if we correctly lynch for the remainder of the game. I have an idea of the lynch order, but I won't reveal it just yet. Is the receiver of the Potter ability allowed to role claim via pm to others? EBWOP | ||
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On December 22 2010 06:58 annul wrote: yes, you have always been able to claim abilities. just not your name. the potter recipient can claim what it is thanks, requesting Potter ability claim through pm please. | ||
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On December 22 2010 07:03 deconduo wrote: Also, if someone who is not jcarl/pever claims to be a gryffindor student, they are a counterclaim to why. They should speak up now. Also, we are welcome to any Hufflepuff counterclaims as well  | ||
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Barundar dies tonight. All remaining town must vote for him. Do not get distracted by any scum tactics. | ||
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Both hits have been accounted for. He is lying. | ||
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On December 23 2010 06:40 CubEdIn wrote: Oh we really didn't care about that. I never trusted kita in PMs. But the group decided to roleblock kita and hit Node+Meapak (thinking that who tf would cover meapak's ass). I suggested MrZ and deconduo (cuz decon claimed to me that he had no powers via pm early in the game). But yeah, the town seems rather stacked. We did an awesome job with hits and lynches at start, and you still had awesome abilities left. All mafia had was a roleblock and the ability to tell which of us gets targeted at night (but without knowing by what or by whom). Node was the vet with the invisibility cloak which he gave to me so the role block didn't work. I protected Meapak last night as my medic target. It was surprising how I thought the towns unwillingness to lynch DrH would lead to our downfall, yet in reality it practically revealed the entire scum list. | ||
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It was pretty unfortunate for scum that DrH decided to claim pomfrey to pomfrey. I knew I couldn't name claim so at first I pm'd the town I trusted the most who was Meapak and told him I had a dt check that appeared red. Meapak was hesistant to call out DrH so I had to call him out myself. I would have thought it was fairly obvious that I was pomfrey since I was "100%" sure, yet the town didn't buy it. Jcarl was the dt to check me, but he wasn't allowed to role claim either so instead he just strongly supported me. Nice job by scum to squeeze out the extra day. | ||
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On December 23 2010 06:55 CubEdIn wrote: Also lol @ kita trying to get me to claim Creevy. As if! hehe your response was even better: "I guess that I can say that I don't like photography as much as I like paintings, you know, in the same way that Dumbledore loved art." You actually made me have to google a few characters. How evil :p | ||
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On December 23 2010 06:59 annul wrote: i was not so sure about the balance of this game, but i really do think that on the whole, it turned out to be pretty fine. town was in MYLO and would have lost in two cycles if they didnt block a hit. it was very close at the end, and only at the last phase of the game did the town put the pieces together and nail down the six mafia i dont think the mason circles were so imba. 2 circles of 3, unknown to each other... I was really paranoid about Lunar with her twin alternate win. None of the 6 ever mentioned the house vs house win condtions even after we trusted each other. We're lucky we didn't decide to lynch him earlier >.< | ||
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On December 23 2010 07:01 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah but role claiming is not what caused our demise. It was matching the role with the name. Take that and combine it with a couple of mod-confirmed circles, and it gives the mafia 0 chance to blend in by claiming. I mean, I had basically no role to claim, since I was sure that most of them have already been claimed. Think about how this game would've worked if there was NO name list whatsoever. Sure, you can say that you have 3 allies, but how will you ever be sure about the rest unless you DT them? Without name claims, I think we would have had coag, opz, Barundar and yourself from the pandain lynch. Its hard to tell though. opz vs GGQ was tough to tell, both were relatively inactive, but the hit on GGQ fixed that. tube had like 3 posts the entire game and hasn't posted for 5 days. We didn't really have anything on him besides the fact that he was voting anti-town. deconduo was really the only other townie we didn't really trust (besides lunar with her twin win condition), but I guess things worked out in the end. | ||
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On December 23 2010 07:33 Incognito wrote: Wait...So town manages to get 2 out of 8 mafia while losing 3/5 of their members in the process and STILL win? Something isnt right here... You're so pessimistic. Town missed on one lynch the entire game (lets ignore electing a scum as mayor :p). Think of it this way: The town plays dead the first three days to extract vital information and the proceeds with 7 consecutive scum lynches. -_- | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On December 23 2010 18:27 CubEdIn wrote: We realized that when kita said that hits have been accounted for. ALL town was working together (well we weren't sure about deconduo but other than him...) The second hit actually wasn't accounted for, but I wasn't going to give Barundar a chance to escape the lynch. It probably would have turned up eventually though. P.S. Awesome day/night posts from annul. They were definitely fun to read. Thanks for hosting ^_^ | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On December 26 2010 18:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't like the way Kitaman played though. Lying to get someone who you think is scum lynched is never a good idea, because you need to account for the fact that you just might maybe be wrong. Well in that situation I knew I wasn't wrong since there couldn't be two Pomfreys, but I get what you are saying. The dt story was true since jcarl did check the real pomfrey, but I agree I should have went about it better. At the time, I had thought I was the only protection ability still alive and the numbers looked like we would to have to stop a hit or two so I didn't claim medic, but perhaps I should have. | ||
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