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On December 18 2010 23:32 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 18:54 Barundar wrote:On December 18 2010 18:44 orgolove wrote:
Fuck, should've hit DrH FUCK
and we lost both detectives to inactivity? jesus christ Why the fuck did you two choose TODAY to be inactive
FUCK pandain and his scumminess. I hope you're happy. -_- your Yum Yum crap loses games.
FoS DrH. Now. I don't think so. Neither Pandain nor DrH voted for each others, why would they do that if it could save them. My guess is Pandain checked DrH and confirmed him. If anything this proves to me I was wrong about Kitaman, he made it sound like both of them was scum... You've got to be kidding me. I 100% was pushing DrH. You were the one that tried to do a last minute switch over to the dt. FoS BarundarFoS CubEdIn You promissed me your vote give that certain conditions were met and you went afk FoS deconduo Absent for the entire day FoS ~OpZ~ And of course a big FoS DrHNevertheless, DrH dies at tomorrow's lynch. Vig hit would speed up the process.
-er-....i would of voted pandain again. i had absolutely zero to say about the discussion, and i thought pandain was scum. i've never seen him play like that before, and when i get on my comp and off my phone, ill post my analysis of him. personally i think im weak at analysis. atleast when im not 100% sure like you seem to be about drH. i was even noting the connection between the two. pandain played completely unlike himself, and i thought he was scum. ive pointed it out all game. my vote wasnt changing, so screw that for FoSing me. noT yo mention i was voting for RoL on the sole stipulation he lynched LSB. would you like me to look at someone tomorrow?
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On December 19 2010 01:22 kitaman27 wrote:
The activity in the town is extremely disappointing as well. One more vote would have switched the lynch and several people either chose to ignore pms or were just plain afk.
5. pevergreen (who replaced ghrur) - -apparently town alligned, but doesn't respond to allies pm's
I've replied to every PM I deem worth replying to.
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On December 19 2010 09:23 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 09:15 CubEdIn wrote:Wait I'm confused. Why was amber "saved" on night 1? As far as I know, he said that he lost one life. On December 14 2010 10:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:
i took a hit last night. (1 of 2 lives)
If a medic protected someone else it would be a very good idea for them to contact that person to start a mini-circle. There we go. So why is the arguing about who protected him, when he CLEARLY took a hit? Also, shouldn't the night post be coming in any minute now? I want to reveal a short series of PMs if I'm still alive. He couldn't have had two lives: he's a green.
Well then it means that he wasn't hit anyway. And that he lied.
I don't really like this game much. It's like house. Everyone lies.
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STILL need 2 night actions
one person with night actions decided to PM me something irrelevant instead of the night action
the other person is seemingly AFK
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kitaman27
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On December 19 2010 18:31 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 09:23 zeks wrote:On December 19 2010 09:15 CubEdIn wrote:Wait I'm confused. Why was amber "saved" on night 1? As far as I know, he said that he lost one life. On December 14 2010 10:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:
i took a hit last night. (1 of 2 lives)
If a medic protected someone else it would be a very good idea for them to contact that person to start a mini-circle. There we go. So why is the arguing about who protected him, when he CLEARLY took a hit? Also, shouldn't the night post be coming in any minute now? I want to reveal a short series of PMs if I'm still alive. He couldn't have had two lives: he's a green. Well then it means that he wasn't hit anyway. And that he lied. I don't really like this game much. It's like house. Everyone lies.
He was a green. Both Amber and the real medic said that he was hit. Are you saying they both lied? You seem pretty insistent to brush away this issue.
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I'm not brushing away anything, I just don't fking get it.
So far, 80% of what was important in this game seems to have gone through PMs.
I, unfortunately, am not part of any town circles, and the people I did speak to turned up dead. The ones that are not dead, said they don't trust me, so then what's the point of PMs.
I tried to take everything, including my thoughts on the issue in the thread, but people like YOU judge based on what you know from PMs AND the thread. I don't have that luxury.
And I would probably just shut up and oblige, but from what I see so far, the PM circles blow. We lost a ton of blues, a ton of DTs, and we got one mafia who may or may not have turned town.
Now, even if town gets successful lynches every night, it's still very much in trouble. So no, I won't take people who lie lightly. It's the ONLY thing I have to go on. Unfortunately, the Amber thing is irrelevant to me now, because, even though he lied, he is dead. So I shall focus on the other guys who I've seen lying. Just wait for the night post.
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On December 19 2010 23:27 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 18:31 CubEdIn wrote:On December 19 2010 09:23 zeks wrote:On December 19 2010 09:15 CubEdIn wrote:Wait I'm confused. Why was amber "saved" on night 1? As far as I know, he said that he lost one life. On December 14 2010 10:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:
i took a hit last night. (1 of 2 lives)
If a medic protected someone else it would be a very good idea for them to contact that person to start a mini-circle. There we go. So why is the arguing about who protected him, when he CLEARLY took a hit? Also, shouldn't the night post be coming in any minute now? I want to reveal a short series of PMs if I'm still alive. He couldn't have had two lives: he's a green. Well then it means that he wasn't hit anyway. And that he lied. I don't really like this game much. It's like house. Everyone lies. He was a green. Both Amber and the real medic said that he was hit. Are you saying they both lied? You seem pretty insistent to brush away this issue.
....I responded sir.
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kitaman27
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On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote:
And I would probably just shut up and oblige, but from what I see so far, the PM circles blow. We lost a ton of blues, a ton of DTs, and we got one mafia who may or may not have turned town.
Fair enough, but the only two of those that I was in contact with was Kenpachi, who was modkilled, and Pandain, who was lynched while I pushed for DrH. The leak hasn't come from my circle.
On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote:
Now, even if town gets successful lynches every night, it's still very much in trouble. So no, I won't take people who lie lightly.
Yet you give DrH a free pass?
On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote:
Unfortunately, the Amber thing is irrelevant to me now, because, even though he lied, he is dead.
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote:
Just wait for the night post.
Agreed. DrH has not been protected by the real medic and he stated earlier in a pm that he cannot protect himself so if he survives the night hits then its pretty clear he is guilty. He will probably say the mafia let him live to create suspicion, but they really let him live because he is their leader.
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself.
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On December 19 2010 23:41 CubEdIn wrote:
I'm not brushing away anything, I just don't fking get it.
So far, 80% of what was important in this game seems to have gone through PMs.
I, unfortunately, am not part of any town circles, and the people I did speak to turned up dead. The ones that are not dead, said they don't trust me, so then what's the point of PMs.
I tried to take everything, including my thoughts on the issue in the thread, but people like YOU judge based on what you know from PMs AND the thread. I don't have that luxury.
And I would probably just shut up and oblige, but from what I see so far, the PM circles blow. We lost a ton of blues, a ton of DTs, and we got one mafia who may or may not have turned town.
Now, even if town gets successful lynches every night, it's still very much in trouble. So no, I won't take people who lie lightly. It's the ONLY thing I have to go on. Unfortunately, the Amber thing is irrelevant to me now, because, even though he lied, he is dead. So I shall focus on the other guys who I've seen lying. Just wait for the night post.
Yeah PM land seems to be killing town
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kitaman27
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On December 19 2010 09:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 23:32 kitaman27 wrote:On December 18 2010 18:54 Barundar wrote:On December 18 2010 18:44 orgolove wrote:
Fuck, should've hit DrH FUCK
and we lost both detectives to inactivity? jesus christ Why the fuck did you two choose TODAY to be inactive
FUCK pandain and his scumminess. I hope you're happy. -_- your Yum Yum crap loses games.
FoS DrH. Now. I don't think so. Neither Pandain nor DrH voted for each others, why would they do that if it could save them. My guess is Pandain checked DrH and confirmed him. If anything this proves to me I was wrong about Kitaman, he made it sound like both of them was scum... You've got to be kidding me. I 100% was pushing DrH. You were the one that tried to do a last minute switch over to the dt. FoS BarundarFoS CubEdIn You promissed me your vote give that certain conditions were met and you went afk FoS deconduo Absent for the entire day FoS ~OpZ~ And of course a big FoS DrHNevertheless, DrH dies at tomorrow's lynch. Vig hit would speed up the process. -er-....i would of voted pandain again. i had absolutely zero to say about the discussion, and i thought pandain was scum. i've never seen him play like that before, and when i get on my comp and off my phone, ill post my analysis of him. personally i think im weak at analysis. atleast when im not 100% sure like you seem to be about drH. i was even noting the connection between the two. pandain played completely unlike himself, and i thought he was scum. ive pointed it out all game. my vote wasnt changing, so screw that for FoSing me. noT yo mention i was voting for RoL on the sole stipulation he lynched LSB. would you like me to look at someone tomorrow?
Its tough to give a free pass to those who lynched the dt, when I had proposed a 1:1 trade for scum. If you believe that I am 100% sure, then why would you vote for pandain again? I agree his weird "claim" to be my dt was bizarre, but DrH was the sure thing. If you want to look at someone, I would suggest waiting until after the DrH lynch, but the choice is yours.
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On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself.
Just gonna correct this, but he has asked you numerous times to produce both the medic, and dt that called him out. So this is incorrect to say. I will not say that it makes him any less scummy tho, but I can understand why you'd want someone calling you red to come out. He's arguing with you, and you're nothing more than a proxy.
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On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Yet you give DrH a free pass?
Ummm, no?
If by "a free pass" you mean "did not vote for him", I made my reasons pretty clear in the thread. I basically had a choice of trusting you, or going after Pandain. I chose the latter, and as soon as daytime comes, I will show you why.
On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no?
If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far.
On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Agreed. DrH has not been protected by the real medic and he stated earlier in a pm that he cannot protect himself so if he survives the night hits then its pretty clear he is guilty. He will probably say the mafia let him live to create suspicion, but they really let him live because he is their leader.
I will make a comment about this as soon as daytime comes. Let's just see.
On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself.
What really? You would want him to try and "out" the other person? That would be incredibly anti-town.
Seriously, if you're wrong about him, when DrH dies, you will have to produce the other person or else it's your head that will roll 100%. Why would he try and give the mafia a free hit? (assuming you are correct, and that other medic is the real one).
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On December 20 2010 00:19 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 09:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:On December 18 2010 23:32 kitaman27 wrote:On December 18 2010 18:54 Barundar wrote:On December 18 2010 18:44 orgolove wrote:
Fuck, should've hit DrH FUCK
and we lost both detectives to inactivity? jesus christ Why the fuck did you two choose TODAY to be inactive
FUCK pandain and his scumminess. I hope you're happy. -_- your Yum Yum crap loses games.
FoS DrH. Now. I don't think so. Neither Pandain nor DrH voted for each others, why would they do that if it could save them. My guess is Pandain checked DrH and confirmed him. If anything this proves to me I was wrong about Kitaman, he made it sound like both of them was scum... You've got to be kidding me. I 100% was pushing DrH. You were the one that tried to do a last minute switch over to the dt. FoS BarundarFoS CubEdIn You promissed me your vote give that certain conditions were met and you went afk FoS deconduo Absent for the entire day FoS ~OpZ~ And of course a big FoS DrHNevertheless, DrH dies at tomorrow's lynch. Vig hit would speed up the process. -er-....i would of voted pandain again. i had absolutely zero to say about the discussion, and i thought pandain was scum. i've never seen him play like that before, and when i get on my comp and off my phone, ill post my analysis of him. personally i think im weak at analysis. atleast when im not 100% sure like you seem to be about drH. i was even noting the connection between the two. pandain played completely unlike himself, and i thought he was scum. ive pointed it out all game. my vote wasnt changing, so screw that for FoSing me. noT yo mention i was voting for RoL on the sole stipulation he lynched LSB. would you like me to look at someone tomorrow? Its tough to give a free pass to those who lynched the dt, when I had proposed a 1:1 trade for scum. If you believe that I am 100% sure, then why would you vote for pandain again? I agree his weird "claim" to be my dt was bizarre, but DrH was the sure thing. If you want to look at someone, I would suggest waiting until after the DrH lynch, but the choice is yours.
...Have you really not looked at Pandain's posting history this game? Or even read my post you just quoted? Seriously? Just because you seem 100% sure, does not by any means make you right. I'd of been willing to lynch Pandain Day 2 just based on his behavior. Which is why I voted for him to begin with.
Not to mention he just claims DT. Like this:
On December 18 2010 07:50 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 07:40 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 18 2010 07:02 LunarDestiny wrote:
Kitaman, have your dt personally claim to me and I will prove that I am town to him also.
If my prove is flawed in that it is not enough to prove I am 100% town, then either one of you can tell town. If I am mafia, town also knows Mr.Zergling is mafia. Pandain, read this again please. Don't claim to me if you are not Kitaman's dt. Dude tricked me into released the forum... I will release it if Pandain is lynch and is mafia. Pandain, if you are town... wtf in ever said i was his dt -.- Okay yes, I am an ability dt. I have the power to check people's abilities. Night one i checked RoL. Night two I checked Airball and got the result "Pandain is abilityi DT" *sigh
Kinda suspect claim. We've all seen mafia try and claim DT to get out of a lynch. Sadly, the next few games, it will probably work now.
Just like I'd probably vote for oddo123, for being more inactive than pandain, but I'm addressing him under the assumption he's in a House.
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On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far.
No Cubedin, DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person, I believe, the story is has gotten name checked as Pomfrey by Kenpachi?
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far.
You must have missed this, or chose to ignore it, but Meapak claimed a type of medic too. DrH stated that Meapak protected Amber night one and Meapak responded that this was a lie. The real pomfrey told me that they protected Amber night one. That means the other pomfrey is a fraud.
On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. What really? You would want him to try and "out" the other person? That would be incredibly anti-town. Seriously, if you're wrong about him, when DrH dies, you will have to produce the other person or else it's your head that will roll 100%. Why would he try and give the mafia a free hit? (assuming you are correct, and that other medic is the real one).
You are either confused or defending your scumbuddy to the death. That makes no sense at all. They both claimed the same name. One of them is scum, the other is not. If DrH is pomfrey then he knows 100% that the other medic is scum. This would NOT be giving the mafia a free hit.
On December 20 2010 00:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. Just gonna correct this, but he has asked you numerous times to produce both the medic, and dt that called him out. So this is incorrect to say. I will not say that it makes him any less scummy tho, but I can understand why you'd want someone calling you red to come out. He's arguing with you, and you're nothing more than a proxy.
I just read through all his posts and couldn't find a reference to where he asked me to produce the other medic and the dt that checked the real medic. Though he has suggested numerous times that he is ok with a 1:1 trade, but then follows that up by saying I'm scum so I won't reveal the other medic. Lets follow his wishes and lynch him tonight, and we can lynch the other medic the next day.
On December 20 2010 00:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far. No Cubedin, DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person, I believe, the story is has gotten name checked as Pomfrey by Kenpachi?
Yes DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person has been checked as Pomfrey, but that person was not kenpachi.
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On December 20 2010 01:03 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far. You must have missed this, or chose to ignore it, but Meapak claimed a type of medic too. DrH stated that Meapak protected Amber night one and Meapak responded that this was a lie. The real pomfrey told me that they protected Amber night one. That means the other pomfrey is a fraud. Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. What really? You would want him to try and "out" the other person? That would be incredibly anti-town. Seriously, if you're wrong about him, when DrH dies, you will have to produce the other person or else it's your head that will roll 100%. Why would he try and give the mafia a free hit? (assuming you are correct, and that other medic is the real one). You are either confused or defending your scumbuddy to the death. That makes no sense at all. They both claimed the same name. One of them is scum, the other is not. If DrH is pomfrey then he knows 100% that the other medic is scum. This would NOT be giving the mafia a free hit. Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. Just gonna correct this, but he has asked you numerous times to produce both the medic, and dt that called him out. So this is incorrect to say. I will not say that it makes him any less scummy tho, but I can understand why you'd want someone calling you red to come out. He's arguing with you, and you're nothing more than a proxy. I just read through all his posts and couldn't find a reference to where he asked me to produce the other medic and the dt that checked the real medic. Though he has suggested numerous times that he is ok with a 1:1 trade, but then follows that up by saying I'm scum so I won't reveal the other medic. Lets follow his wishes and lynch him tonight, and we can lynch the other medic the next day. Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 00:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far. No Cubedin, DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person, I believe, the story is has gotten name checked as Pomfrey by Kenpachi? Yes DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person has been checked as Pomfrey, but that person was not kenpachi.
Well you're right. I'm confused as hell.
I understood that there are two Pomfreys.
I understood that someone protected Amber, but that someone was not DrH (or Meapakk). However, I don't see why this constitutes a case against DrH, that's all. Just try to EXPLAIN other than incriminate me.
DrH claimed medic, correct? Then how would he know what Meapakk did? And why would he say that meapakk defended Amber if he didn't know that for sure. These are things that I just don't understand.
You are either confused or defending your scumbuddy to the death. That makes no sense at all. They both claimed the same name. One of them is scum, the other is not. If DrH is pomfrey then he knows 100% that the other medic is scum. This would NOT be giving the mafia a free hit.
Again, you're looking at this from your perspective alone. I do not know that there are two people who claimed Pomfrey. Only YOU know that, we just have to believe you.
So from my point of view, I know that DrH said he's Pomfrey and that you said that's a lie. Even if DrH IS pomfrey, then he has YOU, who KNOWS who that other guy is, and when he flips green you will HAVE to give us his identity.
Explain to me how my logic doesn't work? Why would anyone reveal the identity of BOTH people who claimed Pomfrey in the thread?
Really, just try to slowly explain it to me as if I was a retard.
Scenario 1 -> DrH is blue.
=> The other Pomfrey is a red. They would not kill DrH because then you would out the red. Unless they could kill all the people who know the red's identity, they would have to let DrH live. It would be in Mafia's interest that the town doesn't know the red's identity, correct?
Scenario 2 -> DrH is red.
=> The other Pomfrey is blue. Mafia would like to know his name because he's a medic. It would be in Mafia's interest that the medic is revealed to the town (and to them, obviously). -> this would be giving mafia a free hit, it's what I was referring to. Claiming in public = free information for Mafia.
That's how I see it. Please explain where I am wrong, because I feel pretty retarded right now.
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On December 18 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 08:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
I change my vote.
A town confirmed dt claim to me and say that he checked Dr.H and he is mafia.
Annul also say that mafia can not buss dt check and any means.
So the dt check is 100% legit.
Dr.H is a sure lynch. He also said that if I were checked I would come back town and that is impossible that I returned a death-eater aligned result. Whoever said that is lying.
On December 18 2010 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 08:30 kitaman27 wrote:On December 18 2010 08:27 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 18 2010 08:21 Barundar wrote:
Is pandain the safest lynch at this point? I say yes. He did almost nothing in the game. Then a lot of people voted to lynch him. The moment I say, "If you are Kitaman's dt, please claim to me" Pandain claimed to me immediately. But he is not Kitaman's dt. So he went from lurkering, to being lynch. The moment he saw a chance to survive, he suddenly becomes active like shit. Now he is saying that a tracker/watcher contacted him. WTF. DrH was the one caught lying. Pandain has been scummy, but DrH is a sure thing. I'm not lying. Your DT can go ahead and check me so we can lynch the fake claimer.
On December 18 2010 18:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 18:44 orgolove wrote:
Fuck, should've hit DrH FUCK
and we lost both detectives to inactivity? jesus christ Why the fuck did you two choose TODAY to be inactive
FUCK pandain and his scumminess. I hope you're happy. -_- your Yum Yum crap loses games.
FoS DrH. Now. So I'm FoS'd for defending our DT and protecting the other one right? Good logic. Maybe we can lynch all those fake DT's who said I was red now.
I took all that as waiting for the DT.
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kitaman27
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On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 01:03 kitaman27 wrote:On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far. You must have missed this, or chose to ignore it, but Meapak claimed a type of medic too. DrH stated that Meapak protected Amber night one and Meapak responded that this was a lie. The real pomfrey told me that they protected Amber night one. That means the other pomfrey is a fraud. On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. What really? You would want him to try and "out" the other person? That would be incredibly anti-town. Seriously, if you're wrong about him, when DrH dies, you will have to produce the other person or else it's your head that will roll 100%. Why would he try and give the mafia a free hit? (assuming you are correct, and that other medic is the real one). You are either confused or defending your scumbuddy to the death. That makes no sense at all. They both claimed the same name. One of them is scum, the other is not. If DrH is pomfrey then he knows 100% that the other medic is scum. This would NOT be giving the mafia a free hit. On December 20 2010 00:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Anyone find it weird that he is not desperate to find out the identity of the real medic? If there is a double name claim and he is really pomfrey than the other medic is 100% guilty. Instead he portrays me as a "misguided" town and spends his time defending himself. Just gonna correct this, but he has asked you numerous times to produce both the medic, and dt that called him out. So this is incorrect to say. I will not say that it makes him any less scummy tho, but I can understand why you'd want someone calling you red to come out. He's arguing with you, and you're nothing more than a proxy. I just read through all his posts and couldn't find a reference to where he asked me to produce the other medic and the dt that checked the real medic. Though he has suggested numerous times that he is ok with a 1:1 trade, but then follows that up by saying I'm scum so I won't reveal the other medic. Lets follow his wishes and lynch him tonight, and we can lynch the other medic the next day. On December 20 2010 00:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:On December 20 2010 00:24 CubEdIn wrote:On December 20 2010 00:13 kitaman27 wrote:
But the point is that Amber not dieing on night one validates the real medic and discredits the fake one.
So you're saying that there's only one medic left in the whole game? And it can't be DrH because he said that he did not protect Amber? Fair enough, but how do we know there's just one more medic left? There have been 3DTs so far, we could easily have more medics, no? If there's a reason why we think it's just one medic left, then I missed it, and if it's irrefutable, then that's the best proof against DrH that I've seen so far. No Cubedin, DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person, I believe, the story is has gotten name checked as Pomfrey by Kenpachi? Yes DrH has claimed Pomfrey. Another person has been checked as Pomfrey, but that person was not kenpachi. Well you're right. I'm confused as hell. I understood that there are two Pomfreys. I understood that someone protected Amber, but that someone was not DrH (or Meapakk). However, I don't see why this constitutes a case against DrH, that's all. Just try to EXPLAIN other than incriminate me. DrH claimed medic, correct? Then how would he know what Meapakk did? And why would he say that meapakk defended Amber if he didn't know that for sure. These are things that I just don't understand.
I did not bring up my case against DrH because he did not protect Amber. I didn't even bring this up until after the Pandain lynch. Here is the thought process:
1) Two people claim to be Pomfrey
2) I must decide which of the two is more scummy to push for lynch
reasons against DrH:
-He claimed medic on day one/two to multiple people after stating what a dumb move this is in Salem
-He starts off as a smurf and then switches to his real account to influence the town
-The other pomfrey was checked by a dt
3) I publicly reveal DrH's claim as pomfrey and push for his lynch
4) The mafia know whether or not DrH is the real pomfrey, they choose to spare him. Instead, the only people who vote DrH are myself, a couple of mod-confirmed townies, and a few others. Rather than taking a 1:1 trade the town decides to push someone they deem more suspicious, who turns out to be a dt.
Why did he say Meapak protected Amber? To cover the fact that Amber wasn't protected by him. This later was shown to be a lie.
On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +
You are either confused or defending your scumbuddy to the death. That makes no sense at all. They both claimed the same name. One of them is scum, the other is not. If DrH is pomfrey then he knows 100% that the other medic is scum. This would NOT be giving the mafia a free hit.
Again, you're looking at this from your perspective alone. I do not know that there are two people who claimed Pomfrey. Only YOU know that, we just have to believe you. So from my point of view, I know that DrH said he's Pomfrey and that you said that's a lie. Even if DrH IS pomfrey, then he has YOU, who KNOWS who that other guy is, and when he flips green you will HAVE to give us his identity.
I don't think anyone has denied the fact that there are two Pomfrey claims. Above you even admit its probably true with "I understood that there are two Pomfreys." If after the DrH lynch, I refuse to give up the other Pomfrey then I will vote myself for lynch. I suggest you do as well.
On December 20 2010 01:23 CubEdIn wrote:
Explain to me how my logic doesn't work? Why would anyone reveal the identity of BOTH people who claimed Pomfrey in the thread?
Really, just try to slowly explain it to me as if I was a retard.
Scenario 1 -> DrH is blue.
=> The other Pomfrey is a red. They would not kill DrH because then you would out the red. Unless they could kill all the people who know the red's identity, they would have to let DrH live. It would be in Mafia's interest that the town doesn't know the red's identity, correct?
Scenario 2 -> DrH is red.
=> The other Pomfrey is blue. Mafia would like to know his name because he's a medic. It would be in Mafia's interest that the medic is revealed to the town (and to them, obviously). -> this would be giving mafia a free hit, it's what I was referring to. Claiming in public = free information for Mafia.
That's how I see it. Please explain where I am wrong, because I feel pretty retarded right now.
Agreed. I am not revealing the other medic until DrH is dead. That is what I have been saying.
The problem was that if DrH is Pomfrey then he must know the other Pomfrey is red. I know if I were in his place I would be desperate to stop the fake claimer rather than brush off the accusation and focus my efforts on some weak gryffindor claim by Why.
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On December 18 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 08:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
I change my vote.
A town confirmed dt claim to me and say that he checked Dr.H and he is mafia.
Annul also say that mafia can not buss dt check and any means.
So the dt check is 100% legit.
Dr.H is a sure lynch. He also said that if I were checked I would come back town and that is impossible that I returned a death-eater aligned result. Whoever said that is lying.
lol what? My dt checked a pomfrey. My dt did not check DrH as red. Don't fall for this misdirection.
On December 18 2010 08:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 08:30 kitaman27 wrote:On December 18 2010 08:27 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 18 2010 08:21 Barundar wrote:
Is pandain the safest lynch at this point? I say yes. He did almost nothing in the game. Then a lot of people voted to lynch him. The moment I say, "If you are Kitaman's dt, please claim to me" Pandain claimed to me immediately. But he is not Kitaman's dt. So he went from lurkering, to being lynch. The moment he saw a chance to survive, he suddenly becomes active like shit. Now he is saying that a tracker/watcher contacted him. WTF. DrH was the one caught lying. Pandain has been scummy, but DrH is a sure thing. I'm not lying. Your DT can go ahead and check me so we can lynch the fake claimer.
He is not calling for the dt's identity. He is asking the dt to check him because he is the elder.
On December 18 2010 18:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 18:44 orgolove wrote:
Fuck, should've hit DrH FUCK
and we lost both detectives to inactivity? jesus christ Why the fuck did you two choose TODAY to be inactive
FUCK pandain and his scumminess. I hope you're happy. -_- your Yum Yum crap loses games.
FoS DrH. Now. So I'm FoS'd for defending our DT and protecting the other one right? Good logic. Maybe we can lynch all those fake DT's who said I was red now.
All those fake Dt's that said he was red? Again misdirection. My dt checked someone that came up pomfrey. My dt did not check him as red.
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