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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 19 2010 22:34 GMT
#1261
On December 20 2010 07:33 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
It seems that there is only 2 deaths, so one of mafia's KP failed or they stack KP which I think is unlikely.

I don't want to talk so much during night because I don't want to give information to mafia.

Lets me share some information now:
Zeks the Nymphadora Tonks contacted on day 2 and shared his role ability with me. At the time, I didn't trust him much because he said his ability work only 50% of the time. He could be a mafia who try to get information from me.
i feel safe enough to rc with you - interpret this however you want.

I am Nymphadora Tonks shapeshifter

my ability is essentially a modified martyr (shapeshift)

if i shapeshift into you, and an action is done on you
there is 50% it happens to me instead

if i shsapeshift into you and you are invisibility cloaked, and an action is done on you, then the action 100% happens to me


On night 3, he also contacted me and asked me who should he use his ability on. I was still uncomfortable enough to share information with him and asked him to use his ability on lurking townies (aka lurkers) because most night kills are used on lurking townies.
You have a protective role, so you should try to absorb from mafia. Looking back at past history, mafia have a tendency to target lurking townies to avoid protection from medics.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From zeks:
I claimed to kitaman27

Who should I use my ability on tonight?


Day Post seems to indicate mafia tried to kill 1 or more of the gryffindors, but they used their protection to stop it.


This is correct.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 19 2010 22:36 GMT
#1262
On December 20 2010 07:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
It seems that there is only 2 deaths, so one of mafia's KP failed or they stack KP which I think is unlikely.

I don't want to talk so much during night because I don't want to give information to mafia.

Lets me share some information now:
Zeks the Nymphadora Tonks contacted on day 2 and shared his role ability with me. At the time, I didn't trust him much because he said his ability work only 50% of the time. He could be a mafia who try to get information from me.
i feel safe enough to rc with you - interpret this however you want.

I am Nymphadora Tonks shapeshifter

my ability is essentially a modified martyr (shapeshift)

if i shapeshift into you, and an action is done on you
there is 50% it happens to me instead

if i shsapeshift into you and you are invisibility cloaked, and an action is done on you, then the action 100% happens to me


On night 3, he also contacted me and asked me who should he use his ability on. I was still uncomfortable enough to share information with him and asked him to use his ability on lurking townies (aka lurkers) because most night kills are used on lurking townies.
You have a protective role, so you should try to absorb from mafia. Looking back at past history, mafia have a tendency to target lurking townies to avoid protection from medics.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From zeks:
I claimed to kitaman27

Who should I use my ability on tonight?


It's very possible that he was shapeshifting into someone else, and they got hit, so he died instead. I wonder if annul would indicate this at all, or if zeks was indeed hit.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 19 2010 22:37 GMT
#1263
On December 20 2010 07:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
It seems that there is only 2 deaths, so one of mafia's KP failed or they stack KP which I think is unlikely.

I don't want to talk so much during night because I don't want to give information to mafia.

Lets me share some information now:
Zeks the Nymphadora Tonks contacted on day 2 and shared his role ability with me. At the time, I didn't trust him much because he said his ability work only 50% of the time. He could be a mafia who try to get information from me.
i feel safe enough to rc with you - interpret this however you want.

I am Nymphadora Tonks shapeshifter

my ability is essentially a modified martyr (shapeshift)

if i shapeshift into you, and an action is done on you
there is 50% it happens to me instead

if i shsapeshift into you and you are invisibility cloaked, and an action is done on you, then the action 100% happens to me


On night 3, he also contacted me and asked me who should he use his ability on. I was still uncomfortable enough to share information with him and asked him to use his ability on lurking townies (aka lurkers) because most night kills are used on lurking townies.
You have a protective role, so you should try to absorb from mafia. Looking back at past history, mafia have a tendency to target lurking townies to avoid protection from medics.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From zeks:
I claimed to kitaman27

Who should I use my ability on tonight?


if this is true, then he was cheating.

next time someone blatantly cheats in PM land, report it. they get modkilled.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
December 19 2010 22:39 GMT
#1264
Ok, daytime.

Here is why I voted for Pandain.
These are the only PMs that I've had with him the whole game:


then i was redirected -.-
*sigh
u mind if i say this in thread? Not you who said, but in general?
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From CubEdIn:
Wow, you just gone screwed up.

I'm only gonna tell you this, and not out it on the thread because I don't want to role-claim.

You did not check Airball on night 2, because I was spying on him that night. He was not visited by anyone.

So, sorry, but my vote stays that way. Unless Annul lied to me.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Pandain:
-.-
its how i play kingmaker
its also how i play when i can only be on for 1 hour a day according to my parents -.-
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From CubEdIn:
Well I'm sorry but you're being awfully quiet.

And you must admit it's exactly how you played kingmaker.
If you weren't such a lurker in this game i would've never set my sights on you.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Pandain:
why are you lynching me
you scum you


And since I'm out there now:
Someone visited Airbag/DrH tonight. And since he's still alive, I'm gonna guess it was a DT, or a medic. I'm not asking you guys to claim, but if you're in a town circle, it should at least prove that I'm not making up my role.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 19 2010 22:40 GMT
#1265
From the day post:

"Wow, a coin flip may decide the fate of our city," NotAnnul said. "It is for this very reason the six-layer system was implemented in the first place," he continued.


If zeks' ability was 50% chance, a coin flip would determine if he died or not by shapeshifting into someone who was hit.

I can't find the 6 layer system, where did annul post that?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
December 19 2010 22:41 GMT
#1266
On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote:
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.

I will assure you that the dt who checked the other medic is town and thus, not lying.
So it goes like this:
Dr.H claimed to be Poppy.
A town dt checked a person who is not Dr.H as Poppy
The town dt contacted kitaman and say he checked Poppy who is not Dr.H.
Dr.H lied about being Poppy.
We should lynch Dr.H because he claimed to be Poppy but we found out he is lying. Also, Dr.H still says he is Poppy.

Both the dt and Kitaman pmed me.
The dt confirmed that he is Kitaman's dt.
Kitaman confirmed that dt's name.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 19 2010 22:43 GMT
#1267
On December 20 2010 07:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I can't find the 6 layer system, where did annul post that?


night 1 post.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 19 2010 22:45 GMT
#1268
On December 20 2010 07:43 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I can't find the 6 layer system, where did annul post that?


night 1 post.


Thanks.

1. Substitution roles.
2. Protection roles
3. Investigation roles.
4. Non-standard kill roles.
5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills.
6. Voldemort's personal kill.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 19 2010 22:47 GMT
#1269
On December 20 2010 07:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote:
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.

I will assure you that the dt who checked the other medic is town and thus, not lying.
So it goes like this:
Dr.H claimed to be Poppy.
A town dt checked a person who is not Dr.H as Poppy
The town dt contacted kitaman and say he checked Poppy who is not Dr.H.
Dr.H lied about being Poppy.
We should lynch Dr.H because he claimed to be Poppy but we found out he is lying. Also, Dr.H still says he is Poppy.

Both the dt and Kitaman pmed me.
The dt confirmed that he is Kitaman's dt.
Kitaman confirmed that dt's name.


How do you know the DT is town?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
December 19 2010 22:47 GMT
#1270
On December 20 2010 07:37 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
It seems that there is only 2 deaths, so one of mafia's KP failed or they stack KP which I think is unlikely.

I don't want to talk so much during night because I don't want to give information to mafia.

Lets me share some information now:
Zeks the Nymphadora Tonks contacted on day 2 and shared his role ability with me. At the time, I didn't trust him much because he said his ability work only 50% of the time. He could be a mafia who try to get information from me.
i feel safe enough to rc with you - interpret this however you want.

I am Nymphadora Tonks shapeshifter

my ability is essentially a modified martyr (shapeshift)

if i shapeshift into you, and an action is done on you
there is 50% it happens to me instead

if i shsapeshift into you and you are invisibility cloaked, and an action is done on you, then the action 100% happens to me


On night 3, he also contacted me and asked me who should he use his ability on. I was still uncomfortable enough to share information with him and asked him to use his ability on lurking townies (aka lurkers) because most night kills are used on lurking townies.
You have a protective role, so you should try to absorb from mafia. Looking back at past history, mafia have a tendency to target lurking townies to avoid protection from medics.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From zeks:
I claimed to kitaman27

Who should I use my ability on tonight?


if this is true, then he was cheating.

next time someone blatantly cheats in PM land, report it. they get modkilled.


For the record, I didn't ask him to claim to me.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
December 19 2010 22:49 GMT
#1271
So I like, claimed my power and stuff.
Pretend like you noticed.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 19 2010 22:51 GMT
#1272
On December 20 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
So I like, claimed my power and stuff.
Pretend like you noticed.


Who did you watch the other nights?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 19 2010 22:52 GMT
#1273
On December 20 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
So I like, claimed my power and stuff.
Pretend like you noticed.


Assuming we can knock you off that list as well, we're left with:

12. Meapak_Ziphh
9. Coagulation
13. Barundar
14. Node
15. chaoser
17. kitaman27
20. orgolove
21. ~OpZ~
30. tube
PROVISIONALLY: Dr. H (But I still don't think he is maf)

If we know who this mysterious DT and medic are we can start doing some proper lynching.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 19 2010 22:54 GMT
#1274
If a DT checks person X, and person X is bussed with person Y. Will the DT be told person Y's name and not realise the bussing took place?
Mr.Zergling
Profile Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
December 19 2010 22:55 GMT
#1275
On December 20 2010 07:52 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
So I like, claimed my power and stuff.
Pretend like you noticed.


Assuming we can knock you off that list as well, we're left with:

12. Meapak_Ziphh
9. Coagulation
13. Barundar
14. Node
15. chaoser
17. kitaman27
20. orgolove
21. ~OpZ~
30. tube
PROVISIONALLY: Dr. H (But I still don't think he is maf)

If we know who this mysterious DT and medic are we can start doing some proper lynching.


I am kind of a mixed role: DT/Roleblocker/Medic
~9001 lings at 5 min? No Problem
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 19 2010 22:55 GMT
#1276
On December 20 2010 07:47 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote:
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.

I will assure you that the dt who checked the other medic is town and thus, not lying.
So it goes like this:
Dr.H claimed to be Poppy.
A town dt checked a person who is not Dr.H as Poppy
The town dt contacted kitaman and say he checked Poppy who is not Dr.H.
Dr.H lied about being Poppy.
We should lynch Dr.H because he claimed to be Poppy but we found out he is lying. Also, Dr.H still says he is Poppy.

Both the dt and Kitaman pmed me.
The dt confirmed that he is Kitaman's dt.
Kitaman confirmed that dt's name.


How do you know the DT is town?


We now have 3 players vouching for this player's towniness. How many do you want for you to believe it? If this is all some huge convoluted scum lie, then you know exactly who to look for.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 19 2010 22:56 GMT
#1277
On December 20 2010 07:54 deconduo wrote:
If a DT checks person X, and person X is bussed with person Y. Will the DT be told person Y's name and not realise the bussing took place?


the DT will be told "Y is ______"

DTs will always know the bus happened, and will be told the bussed player's information
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 19 2010 22:57 GMT
#1278
On December 20 2010 07:55 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:47 deconduo wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote:
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.

I will assure you that the dt who checked the other medic is town and thus, not lying.
So it goes like this:
Dr.H claimed to be Poppy.
A town dt checked a person who is not Dr.H as Poppy
The town dt contacted kitaman and say he checked Poppy who is not Dr.H.
Dr.H lied about being Poppy.
We should lynch Dr.H because he claimed to be Poppy but we found out he is lying. Also, Dr.H still says he is Poppy.

Both the dt and Kitaman pmed me.
The dt confirmed that he is Kitaman's dt.
Kitaman confirmed that dt's name.


How do you know the DT is town?


We now have 3 players vouching for this player's towniness. How many do you want for you to believe it? If this is all some huge convoluted scum lie, then you know exactly who to look for.


You are vouching for them but how do YOU know he is town? Has he nameclaimed? Did someone DT check him? Is he in one of the circles?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 19 2010 22:59 GMT
#1279
On December 20 2010 07:57 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:55 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:47 deconduo wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote:
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.

I will assure you that the dt who checked the other medic is town and thus, not lying.
So it goes like this:
Dr.H claimed to be Poppy.
A town dt checked a person who is not Dr.H as Poppy
The town dt contacted kitaman and say he checked Poppy who is not Dr.H.
Dr.H lied about being Poppy.
We should lynch Dr.H because he claimed to be Poppy but we found out he is lying. Also, Dr.H still says he is Poppy.

Both the dt and Kitaman pmed me.
The dt confirmed that he is Kitaman's dt.
Kitaman confirmed that dt's name.


How do you know the DT is town?


We now have 3 players vouching for this player's towniness. How many do you want for you to believe it? If this is all some huge convoluted scum lie, then you know exactly who to look for.


You are vouching for them but how do YOU know he is town? Has he nameclaimed? Did someone DT check him? Is he in one of the circles?


You sure are fishing quite a bit my friend.

He is in a mod-confirmed town circle.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
December 19 2010 22:59 GMT
#1280
On December 20 2010 07:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 07:57 deconduo wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:55 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:47 deconduo wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:41 LunarDestiny wrote:
On December 20 2010 07:07 orgolove wrote:
I don't get why DrH became a sudden target of everyone's investigations. I was afk for about half a day, and suddenly half the town wants him dead. Looking back, all I can see is that there's layers upon layers of lies.

One of you are claiming that one of your friends investigated someone else and he was doctor, and that friend said that that someone he investigated was not DrH, and that someone who knew his friend knew that DrH was not Poppy then told you kitaman.

By comparison, we saw that Amber was not a veteran as he had claimed, and thus he had to have been protected by a medic. Further Kenpachi was modkilled, not killed by a mafia. So we don't know for sure if DrH is actually lying. DrH was also one of the instrumental voices (as AirBag) in lynching LSB, who turned out to be 100% red.

This is MYLO. I am as suspicious of DrH (or any one of you) as anyone else. But I'm not going to vote to lynch anyone unless we get something 100% concrete. And that's especially considering how many LIES there were in this game - you might still be lying right now, and trying to start a bandwagon early in the day to seal the deal.

I will assure you that the dt who checked the other medic is town and thus, not lying.
So it goes like this:
Dr.H claimed to be Poppy.
A town dt checked a person who is not Dr.H as Poppy
The town dt contacted kitaman and say he checked Poppy who is not Dr.H.
Dr.H lied about being Poppy.
We should lynch Dr.H because he claimed to be Poppy but we found out he is lying. Also, Dr.H still says he is Poppy.

Both the dt and Kitaman pmed me.
The dt confirmed that he is Kitaman's dt.
Kitaman confirmed that dt's name.


How do you know the DT is town?


We now have 3 players vouching for this player's towniness. How many do you want for you to believe it? If this is all some huge convoluted scum lie, then you know exactly who to look for.


You are vouching for them but how do YOU know he is town? Has he nameclaimed? Did someone DT check him? Is he in one of the circles?


You sure are fishing quite a bit my friend.

He is in a mod-confirmed town circle.


Fine. I still think something happened to mess it up, but I'll vote for Dr. H
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