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youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 13 2010 13:18 GMT
#61
Something I don't think is being addressed is how newer players will treat veterans differently to other newer players. It's a lot, lot easier for Ace or L to sway the general opinion then someone like me. I'm definitely a victim of this and it sucks.

oh yeah i'm totally /in when this starts
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 13 2010 13:33 GMT
#62
Well honestly part of the reason I sway people is because after a ton of games where the Town didn't listen to me, and then I die people "get it" and realize I'm pretty good at finding Scum.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 13 2010 13:56 GMT
#63
I'd love to be /in on this. I think I've already learned a lot from hosting Insane mafia, but getting better is always good.
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 13 2010 19:26 GMT
#64
On November 13 2010 22:33 Ace wrote:
Well honestly part of the reason I sway people is because after a ton of games where the Town didn't listen to me, and then I die people "get it" and realize I'm pretty good at finding Scum.


I think people listen to you a lot more when you're mafia than when you're town haha.

But yes there is a very long list of games where town failed to listen. I don't even want to count.

On November 13 2010 22:18 youngminii wrote:
Something I don't think is being addressed is how newer players will treat veterans differently to other newer players. It's a lot, lot easier for Ace or L to sway the general opinion then someone like me. I'm definitely a victim of this and it sucks.

oh yeah i'm totally /in when this starts


Reputation is a double edged sword though. People listen to you more but you are also under much closer scrutiny and people are more apt to get suspicious of you for no reason other than you're alive.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 13 2010 19:27 GMT
#65
Let's get a first game going after BC's then.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
November 13 2010 20:31 GMT
#66
On November 14 2010 04:27 flamewheel wrote:
Let's get a first game going after BC's then.


when this actually starts, new thread please.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 13 2010 23:30 GMT
#67
On November 14 2010 04:26 Ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 22:18 youngminii wrote:
Something I don't think is being addressed is how newer players will treat veterans differently to other newer players. It's a lot, lot easier for Ace or L to sway the general opinion then someone like me. I'm definitely a victim of this and it sucks.

oh yeah i'm totally /in when this starts


Reputation is a double edged sword though. People listen to you more but you are also under much closer scrutiny and people are more apt to get suspicious of you for no reason other than you're alive.

It's more than that. You are under pressure to be very active, and people expect you to just be able to nab mafia every game without them doing anything. This can be great if you're mafia because it is pretty easy to build up sheep bandwagons, but it can be pretty stressful as town because you have to be on your game all the time.
Uff Da
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 13 2010 23:38 GMT
#68
Can I at least get in on a role list to just watch the game? I haven't done this before and would like to sit back and watch the game unfold from the other side of the looking glass
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 13 2010 23:41 GMT
#69
On November 14 2010 08:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Can I at least get in on a role list to just watch the game? I haven't done this before and would like to sit back and watch the game unfold from the other side of the looking glass

It's actually better for learning if you talk to the host and get roles in bits and pieces. As in you ask the host to check your reads as you make them, rather than just watching how everyone plays their role.
Uff Da
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 14 2010 06:11 GMT
#70
Well I would certainly be up for this. I'm another one of those newish mediocre players that half lurks his way though every game and I would like to change that. But I definitely need to wait until sengoku is over, I found out a few games ago that I cannot handle two games at once.
I can already see the ending
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
November 14 2010 06:51 GMT
#71
On November 14 2010 15:11 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I would certainly be up for this. I'm another one of those newish mediocre players that half lurks his way though every game and I would like to change that. But I definitely need to wait until sengoku is over, I found out a few games ago that I cannot handle two games at once.


Its ok if you can't do two games at once. I frown upon people playing in multiple games at one. Diverts attention and makes people less invested in each game. Just playing in one game should suck up enough time already. Ask Ver or Qatol. Multiple games also allows for slipups.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 14 2010 06:55 GMT
#72
On November 14 2010 15:51 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 15:11 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I would certainly be up for this. I'm another one of those newish mediocre players that half lurks his way though every game and I would like to change that. But I definitely need to wait until sengoku is over, I found out a few games ago that I cannot handle two games at once.


Its ok if you can't do two games at once. I frown upon people playing in multiple games at one. Diverts attention and makes people less invested in each game. Just playing in one game should suck up enough time already. Ask Ver or Qatol. Multiple games also allows for slipups.

God spending up to 10 hours a day on XXVIII was ridiculous. So much lurking so much planning so much PM crafting. Definitely couldn't have handled two games at once.

Of course a new thread will be started. It's just like any other game.
Amber if you want the role list up to you but listen to le Qatol (too lazy to check now)
youngminii not looking to change how veterans are viewed too much. Just trying to even out the playing ground more.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 14 2010 07:14 GMT
#73
On November 14 2010 04:27 flamewheel wrote:
Let's get a first game going after BC's then.

Me and BC were actually talking and I think we are going to try to turn this into some sort of bootcamp game, but we haven't really talked specifically on how that is going to work out. I figured boot camp games would be small not 30ish players but I will talk with him and we will post something soon hopefully.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 14 2010 07:48 GMT
#74
There are like 20 people who have asked for permision to view the mafia thread and are currently waiting acceptance. Someone should PM Plexa and have him let those people in before this starts so they have a chance to observe/participate in a normal game like this right off the bat.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 14 2010 08:07 GMT
#75
lol you should of just PMed Plexa instead of posting here o_O
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
November 14 2010 08:25 GMT
#76
On November 14 2010 16:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 04:27 flamewheel wrote:
Let's get a first game going after BC's then.

Me and BC were actually talking and I think we are going to try to turn this into some sort of bootcamp game, but we haven't really talked specifically on how that is going to work out. I figured boot camp games would be small not 30ish players but I will talk with him and we will post something soon hopefully.

That can work even if it's smaller than 30.

Going to come up with a list of pre-determined setups that hosts can be used (tweaked for 25, 30, 35, etc.) since that makes it more clearly defined than letting a host "tweak a setup within reason".

On November 14 2010 16:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
There are like 20 people who have asked for permision to view the mafia thread and are currently waiting acceptance. Someone should PM Plexa and have him let those people in before this starts so they have a chance to observe/participate in a normal game like this right off the bat.

I don't think Plexa likes being disturbed much with regards to this. He does it periodically enough though, so they won't have too long to wait.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 14 2010 08:53 GMT
#77
Since I'm a nub who hasn't won a game here at TL yet, I'll be /in when this starts, any unexpected time commitments notwithstanding.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
November 14 2010 18:27 GMT
#78
This might be the first large roster normal game I'm actually considering of joining in.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
November 14 2010 19:07 GMT
#79
On November 14 2010 16:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 04:27 flamewheel wrote:
Let's get a first game going after BC's then.

Me and BC were actually talking and I think we are going to try to turn this into some sort of bootcamp game, but we haven't really talked specifically on how that is going to work out. I figured boot camp games would be small not 30ish players but I will talk with him and we will post something soon hopefully.


20-30 is best imo, preferably closer to 30. The 30 person games have been the standard and gotten consistently solid results.

If bootcamp games are too small then they'll just get stale over time due to less variety.
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
November 14 2010 19:50 GMT
#80
On November 14 2010 15:55 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 15:51 Incognito wrote:
On November 14 2010 15:11 DCLXVI wrote:
Well I would certainly be up for this. I'm another one of those newish mediocre players that half lurks his way though every game and I would like to change that. But I definitely need to wait until sengoku is over, I found out a few games ago that I cannot handle two games at once.


Its ok if you can't do two games at once. I frown upon people playing in multiple games at one. Diverts attention and makes people less invested in each game. Just playing in one game should suck up enough time already. Ask Ver or Qatol. Multiple games also allows for slipups.

God spending up to 10 hours a day on XXVIII was ridiculous. So much lurking so much planning so much PM crafting. Definitely couldn't have handled two games at once.

Of course a new thread will be started. It's just like any other game.
Amber if you want the role list up to you but listen to le Qatol (too lazy to check now)
youngminii not looking to change how veterans are viewed too much. Just trying to even out the playing ground more.


I will probably do Qatols suggestion. I'll keep checking and get in touch with the mods. Good luck to the newbies
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
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