EPTOn October 11 2010 13:04 youngminii wrote:
oops i mean zombie
oops i mean zombie
A zombie is just like a townie in regular mafia. They make up the bulk of the town's population, but don't have any special abilities
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A zombie is just like a townie in regular mafia. They make up the bulk of the town's population, but don't have any special abilities | ||
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DrH: Stealth involved, and something that can cling to walls BC: Anything fire related Incognito: Music affiliations, and the strength required to push over book shelves Qatol: Silver and hammers, the maniacal laughter could be something as well Korynne: gun shot Meeple: psychotic killer, but well versed in using a knife since he went for an artery Now these clues are certainly not damning, they never are on the first night. Some of them are meant to lead us on a wild goose chase, and some might be our first steps towards finding mafia and vampire scum. Anybody else catch anything of interest? | ||
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On October 11 2010 13:22 CubEdIn wrote: No, that's actually good insight on what we should be paying attention for. Will there be such clues each morning? Yeah that's how it goes. And usually as the game goes the clues become more and more damning towards certain players, which is one method the town can use to bust scum | ||
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On October 11 2010 13:26 jodogohoo wrote: wait so... did the game start yet? It's getting restarted, DrH is resending roles and has to rewrite the day post. So slight delay in the action for now | ||
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On October 11 2010 13:41 NB wrote: great post, thanks alot ^^ also when the game start, it would be night first right? i mean considering there are people being killed, there should be a night b4 that so the mafia and vampire decided who to killed :<.... or those people who were dead on 1st day are randomly chosen? It actually starts with day. The night before the mods and other people not in the game get killed off and clues are left behind. So the mafia and vamps don't pick any of the victims in DrH's first day post | ||
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On October 11 2010 14:06 NB wrote: no, mafia in real life is a game where you sit in a round table and play mafia xD... night: everyone heads down and close eyes, day: discuss =D.... 1 game might take 10 mins, might take 3 hours... what is a bandwagon T_T A bandwagon is when a bunch of people follow one thought relatively blindly because everyone else is doing it. So if someone suggests some idea and you see a bunch of people going "yeah that sounds good" without any real thought to it, that's an example of a bandwagon | ||
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The voting list is somewhere to keep a close eye on as well. If some people switch their votes a lot it may indicate they are just trying to hop on the latest bandwagon for safety. The Masq clue seems pretty convincing right now, but I'm going to hold my vote a little longer after I get to finishing the last couple pages and letting the discussion go a little further. | ||
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On October 12 2010 04:35 Bill Murray wrote: I have to agree with youngminii on that clue analysis... it feels TOO EASY. That being said, masq's actions of chainsaw defending Veldril is pretty fucking scummy in and of itself. My only problem is if Veldril is buddying up to masq as town, and masq is really our jack'o'lantern. I wouldnt want to get rid of a MH on D1. MH = mad hatter which is the same thing as jack o lantern in this game. d1 = day 1 Yeah I know what MH and D1 are lol, I've played some games of mafia before. I agree though, the clues on the first day especially can be misleading or simply too obvious. It's the posting actions of individuals that we should be most concerned about, coupled with voting tendencies and wild changes in who an individual votes for in a given day. We also have the difficult task of managing where our blue roles should be focused on tonight. With so many people there are a lot of options, and a lot of ways it could go wrong. This seems to me to be more important than first day lynch vote. Sure it's possible we'll hit scum, and we may even get wind of a trail that leads to a lot of it, but as in most games unfortunately a vanilla townie gets the rope. The blue roles need to get planning and so that they can establish their circle and hopefully find scum in a more convincing manner than clue analysis. | ||
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On October 12 2010 06:04 Coagulation wrote: well fuck. I had no idea so what exactly is the point of being zombie then? everyone else gets actions and stuff to influence/control the game. and i get the cannon fodder role? lame. Not exactly. Zombies make up the bulk of the population, so they have the strongest voting power during the day. If you can get the Zombies rallied behind a cause, especially with the aid of some blues, town will get to vote whoever they want so long as they maintain their numbers. Also since there are so many townies, we have the greatest number of doing post analyses and clue analyses for our cause. | ||
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On October 12 2010 06:16 Coagulation wrote: well who are the blues?? I don't know if you're really this unaware of the rules or way the game works...Blues aren't going to out themselves so early in the game | ||
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On October 12 2010 06:18 NB wrote: lolol, what you stated there is the BASIC of any mafia games.... I believe veteran players are 2 step further than you to manipulate clues and analysis. If you have read manga such at "death note", "bakuman", "liar game" you should be able to see what is going on here. I'm trying to give the basics since he seems to be so unaware of how this game is played that I thought I'd lay down the foundation for him. I'm aware of how mafia games are played, I've played in plenty of them on and off this forum | ||
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On October 12 2010 06:25 NB wrote: he has 1k9 posts for god shake.... its so clear that he is joking around.... =.= he cant possibly go around accusing people before reading the rules.... He has that many posts, but if you check his history this is his first mafia game, on TL at least. So yeah, even with 1900+ posts its possible someone has never played the game before | ||
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On October 12 2010 06:33 NB wrote: ...NO! he joined TL in 2006, I joined TL in 2008 (i have multiple accounts that had been banned) and i have experienced enough. If you can face all the trolls and the fanboys after each BW games, you clearly have enough power to rule 4chan. and why are you defending him... are you 2 trying to frame something up? ~_~ Defending him? I'm just trying to explain to you why I was answering his questions since you questioned it. | ||
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On October 12 2010 08:33 aztrorisk wrote: actually, your wrong, like in the above quote, it all comes down to a guessing game. Trust me, the vampires and mafia both have big risks in this situation. 5 hrs left to decide. You do know it's 1 day +5 hours before nightfall right? | ||
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On October 12 2010 08:45 aztrorisk wrote: It ends on Tuesday at midnight which is technically in 5 hrs because 12:00 am is considered the next day unless Doctor H changed it to wednesday at midnight It's 1day +5, already spoken with DrH about it | ||
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On October 12 2010 14:34 QuickStriker wrote: Just wanted to restate what I said here. Thegilaboy, if you were here, it's just nothing personal.... it's to settle our unfinished duel... :D You're a dick  Man there is a lot of spam on this board, some people really need to tone down on the useless one-liners with no substance. Anyway, I tried catching up this morning, after wading through a lot of shit: Orglove is either a very enthusiastic townie, or he is a red trying to hold the reigns over a lot of newbies who will come to rely on his spreadsheet and and what I'll call "assessments." Spreadsheets are very useful, but you posting yours in every post is actually revealing information you should keep to yourself at times. But hey, you could be a very active townie and I might be off on my suspicions, I just think you might want to tone down on the spreadsheet since it has been found to be incorrect three times now I believe. I know we really want to get our first day's lynch in order since the hours are winding down, but that also means the hours are winding down on any coordination of our blue roles. I believe Pandain is attempting to coordinate MH placements, which can be a good thing for town even if he is red I suppose since he will be gunning for the other red team. Aztorisk may have jumped the gun on his role claim so early on, but that was partially due to the fact that the rules/descriptions weren't as clear as there are now. I know BM has been throwing around some ideas for Ghost placement in terms of the Masq/Veldril thing, anyone else have a thought on that? Anyway, back to rereading the last few pages again | ||
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On October 13 2010 13:41 aztrorisk wrote: Doctor H, how much longer must you torture us? What exactly are you waiting for? | ||
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On October 13 2010 13:43 aztrorisk wrote: when do we get the results? Of the night? Night lasts 24 hours dude, we don't get results daybreak | ||
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Righteous. If there really was a connection between Masq and Veldril, we should expect to see mafia gunning for him tonight in hopes of snagging another vamp kill. Hopefully if any of the replacements for modkills are blues that they have enough time to catch up and get their role actions in check, we can't afford to lose those opportunities after getting such a lucky lynch at the beginning of the game. Anyway, I must be off for now, catch up on some z's, you all have a good one | ||
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On October 14 2010 10:10 Coagulation wrote: plus another thing i noticed bill said he had 7 pages of pm's i bet they are exchanges between mafia team. cause there is no way in fuck town was rallying behind him. so if he had that many pm's.. Yeah I really doubt he had that much of an involved town circle like he claimed to have. So either most of those PMs are from mafia (I say this because he specified the person he was going after was a vamp over and over) or he was just lying about the PMs and trying to sound important enough to be allowed to remain in the game | ||
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On October 14 2010 10:12 kitaman27 wrote: Is it safe to assume the players that just joined after the modkills absorb the role of the player they replaced? Yeah they are assigned the role of the person they replace | ||
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On October 14 2010 10:25 KhrisKruel wrote: hmm gues I'm confused. I didn't see any modkill references in the OP. If he's modkilled does he flip his role? from my understanding the only flipped role so far is Masq. Still catching up He has been replaced, so someone else has his role now | ||
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On October 14 2010 13:57 Glasse wrote: think about it though. brownbear also has a cat reference. maybe this is all a plan and the smaller clue is actually the real one because its not as obvious This is true. As much as I'd like to think we've got another easy lynch like Masq because of an obvious clue, we can't read solely on clues and make quick accusations. Time for sleep, but I'll sleep more soundly knowing the streets run with red blood now | ||
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On October 15 2010 01:37 deconduo wrote: Don't forget that the vamps might have more than one brute. Multiple brutes would be insanely dangerous later in the game, I doubt that there is more than one of them | ||
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On October 16 2010 12:51 Glasse wrote: i mean, how could a cat crush a skull. sounds more bearish to me. A jungle cat could probably crush a skull...perhaps even a tiger? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=YummyBlaBla | ||
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On October 17 2010 10:56 CubEdIn wrote: Fair enough. Player above me: thegilaboy Voted twice against: Veldril Got voted against by: quickstriker (day 1) Profile: nothing incriminating as far as I can tell. Some protoss photos, and other sc related lines. Posts: roughly 40, most are answers to questions about the game itself, and tips. Here are some of interest: - he seems to deflect from masq, but i had the same opinion as well (clues too obvious), so i'll let this slide - plenty of posts in, he is only giving advice, but hasn't helped the town by contributing with analysis. He added one before game was restarted, but it was just a sum-up of the clues. Seems strange that someone with this much experience is so quiet - again, suspicious that he's not saying anything outright, just generalizing, asking for opinions. seems to support Pandain, so they might be in the same team - HOLY FUCK is this incriminating. WE? WE TOOK CARE of the brute? The town lynched a spawn, the Brute was killed my Mafia. WTF? How did people miss this? Other posts are not really useful. So bottom line: I thought he could be a red or just someone who didn't have too much time to spend on the game, and that's why he was short on analysis. Until I found this post, now I'm 60% sure convinced he's mafia (which would explain support of Pandain, if he is indeed, Mafia. And I'm back. Sorry everyone for disappearing, grad school has been crazy recently. But on the plus side midterms are past us now and that will free up a bit more time for me That's a good point though Cube, I haven't been around too much to do analyses and I hope to amend this now that a few of my more important duties have been taken care of. I want to say first off that I do not support Pandain. I acknowledged early on that it was a plus to have someone at least coordinating our blues since there was and still remains a great deal of chaos in the town. It was a special circumstance too in this game because of the existence of 3 teams, 2 of which are red and gunning for one another specifically. The whole brute thing comes down to excitement to see the brute gone, and I suppose grammatically the sentence came out the wrong way. I was trying to get the point across that we wouldn't have to worry about our blues getting hit by the brute later in the game, because he becomes more and more dangerous the longer the game lasts. Also, I'm pretty sure DrH wouldn't put in a second brute, so I saw this as a big win for town. I'll go ahead and follow the new analysis methodology everyone is using, and take a look at the person above me, I'll post that when I finish! | ||
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Came into the game at page 56 through no fault of his own, claims he had not been given permission to access the forum until then. Also if you note in the signups thread, there were some messed up PMs by the hosts to the wrong person. Profile: Contains a picture of the comic book Calvin and Hobbes with Hobbes' face whited out. Also his signature is a line from a specific strip from C&H, as well as a title of one of their compilation books. Picture further down is presumably him amongst some hills/mountains (I have no idea what you'd call those lol). Profile states he is an aspiring game designer, likes a lot of music, and walks of the beach. No obvious clue connections that I can see right now. Posts: 14 total From the beginning didn't care much for Bill Murray, and made this supposition about his replacement. On October 13 2010 14:21 Node wrote: If I had a guess, s/he is probably just going to keep posting to a minimum. Pretty much everything would be incriminating at this point. Made a few posts clarifying the boogeyman clue On October 15 2010 01:14 Node wrote: As far as I can tell, and this is maybe the most damning evidence against him there is, Veldril has done absolutely zero to actually defend himself. All that he has done, or at least, all he is doing now is attempting to misdirect towards other people. I can't think of anything more foolish than letting a red get away when he's square in our crosshairs. And please, please don't believe his BS about how it's bad for us if he turns up vampire. Reducing their KP is huge so early in the game. Does it give the mafia an advantage? Yes -- over the vampires. Less people turning up dead isn't going to hurt the town. Made a post calling for Veldril's death, claiming that more vampires dead will essentially be beneficial for both the town and mafia (Veldril ended up being townie): On October 15 2010 01:14 Node wrote: As far as I can tell, and this is maybe the most damning evidence against him there is, Veldril has done absolutely zero to actually defend himself. All that he has done, or at least, all he is doing now is attempting to misdirect towards other people. I can't think of anything more foolish than letting a red get away when he's square in our crosshairs. And please, please don't believe his BS about how it's bad for us if he turns up vampire. Reducing their KP is huge so early in the game. Does it give the mafia an advantage? Yes -- over the vampires. Less people turning up dead isn't going to hurt the town. Also did an analysis of Kyop based on his posting and how he implicated himself (Kyop ended up being Gravedigger): On October 15 2010 11:04 Node wrote: Kpyolisis32 is pretty damn sketchy in my book. Forget the damn cat for a moment, and just look at the way he's been posting: I mean, this statement is so weird no matter how you look at it. It's just, "Yep, the clue points to me. That's all." He doesn't defend himself. He doesn't deny that it was him, or provide other potential suspects. To me, it just looks like a ploy to gain some townie cred by implicating himself just a little bit, hoping that people will move on accepting that there's no way a red would provide evidence against himself. The only defense we get is: I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. From that point on not many substantial posts, was upset to see GR died, as well as his suspect Kyop had died and he would need to look for a new suspect: On October 16 2010 13:09 Node wrote: Well shit. The real loss tonight is losing a grim reaper, though. And I'm going to have to find someone other than kpyolosis to be suspicious of. So it goes. Recently writes a post claiming he supports Pandain, even if he is red, because he keeps the town level-headed. Adds that aztrorisk is essentially spitting garbage, and does not want a ghost to protect him that night: On October 17 2010 11:02 Node wrote: Pandain, I've always thought that you seemed like, at the very least, you knew what was going on. Your posts have been significantly more constructive than, say, Aztrorisk's. Who I'm just confused about. More on him in a moment. I may be making a huge mistake, but I think it would be altogether beneficial to the town if Pandain remained among the living. Even if he is red, he's done a lot more to keep the town level-headed than pretty much anyone else. It makes me laugh to think that the vampires / mafia would actually want to target Aztrorisk. He has done virtually nothing to help the town, and at this point is only sowing discord and pointless suspicion with his silly codes and baseless accusations. That's not to say that suspicion is a bad thing, but that suspicion without rationality behind it can only turn us against each other. If the ghosts are listening to this, please don't save his stupid ass. Node came into this game late and has made a few posts but really not a big impression. The only posts that may cause any kind of splash are the one's where he condemns Veldril and Kyop, who both end up not being red. Additionally, he says he supports Pandain, even if he were red, and is very against aztrorisk and considers him disruptive. I wouldn't say he is red so far, but I would like to see him posting a bit more in the thread. | ||
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On October 17 2010 12:35 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. And it's a matter of minutes lol. Actually it's an hour, and I came on so I could do some mafia before PL comes on tonight in 20 minutes! | ||
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 As of right now I like Artanis as a possible lynch, but we do have plenty of time to go over clues and posts again to make sure. I recommend people continue with the analysis methodology used earlier where you analyze the posts and profiles of the person above you on the sign up list. It's a great way to find inconsistencies and clue connections that may have been missed. All in all right now I think Artanis is one of our most solid choices for lynching. | ||
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