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On October 11 2010 14:17 LSB wrote: I always die day1/night1 in rl mafia  . People see my smiling face and somehow just see a big targetBandwagon: the people who follow the accusation Say I accused you because you hanged out around a comic website. Suddnly two people accuse you too, those are bandwagoners Not necessarily, if those people accused you too for no reason at all then yes they are bandwagoners But if they pointed out a different reason to accuse you, they are not. | ||
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As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Veldril Unlimited Blade Works! | ||
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On October 11 2010 14:50 Lucktar wrote: Regarding Incognito's death: As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly. Body made of swords is the only thing I've found so far that seems to relate to this bit. This is a quote from archer from FSN. Archer had the power to make a reality marble which twists the surrounding to recreate his mind. In that reality marble, he can make any sword and as much swords as he desire hence it being called Unlimited Blade Works. It can be interpreted that "he could feel cold steel peirce his body from every direction" as having thousands of swords pierce his body. | ||
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On October 11 2010 15:06 orgolove wrote: Ok, I'm going to be maintaining and updating a spreadsheet of every person's vote and profile notes and other things (i.e. supporting each other in this thread etc, or whether active or not) Here's the link to access it. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&authkey=COn0gLcI Sounds like a neat idea ^.^ | ||
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On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote: Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting. Unless you have someone else in mind, then please enlighten us. Right now, it is the best lead we got. | ||
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On October 11 2010 16:37 Coagulation wrote: so if we lynch someone do we find out what role they are when they dead? If you read the start of the day phase, DoctorHelvetica the Jailkeeper is now dead BloodyC0bbler the Zombie is now dead Incognito the Librarian is now dead Qatol the Human is now dead Korynne the Nurse is now dead Meeple the Zombie is now dead | ||
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Also, there seems to be a lot of people trying to cause confusion by being extremely aggressive. For now, I will keep my vote on masq as I feel that that is what will give us more information. | ||
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On October 12 2010 11:37 CubEdIn wrote: So, back to the question at hand: 1. We kill Masq. - he was M/V then we know for sure if Veldril is M/V, we molest him too, end of story - he was not M/V, then Veldril was just being overly enthusiastic, or trying to stir stuff up, Veldril chances of survival: 50/50 2. We kill Veldril. - he was M/V then we know that Masq ---> MIGHT <--- also be M/V, we will prolly kill him too - he was not M/V, everyone is confused, Masq might survive later in the game. To me, it seems that I will get a more clear view of the game by killing Masq. Almost 24h in, still not changing my vote. Time for sleep. XoXo. I am basically of the same opinion as CubEdln. I think that right now, it would benefit the town more to go with Masq rather than Veldril. And note that I was the first to connect the fate/stay night reference.  (I'm a FSN fanboy) | ||
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I'm also guessing that we don't get to find out his role until the next day phase? | ||
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It seems that there are at least 2 ghost since there were only 4 kills. Looks like our KAWAAAIIII ghosts were able to save someone. Veldril is pretty much confirmed 99% Vampire. With 4 vampires dead and only 1 mafia dead, I would suggest that we save veldril for later. Since the win condition of mafia is to kill vampire, we can probably save a lynch for veldril, and I think that we should be looking for more of mafia but since we can't really differentiate between them unless DT checks, we still have better chances if we look for a new target to lynch. I haven't checked who the clues might refer to as it would take a bit of time looking through everyone's profile. I'll do it tomorrow after I sleep. I suggest that we look at people who voted but didn't post a lot since there is bound to be a red hiding among them trying to keep a low profile. | ||
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he could feel cold steel from every direction of his body As for the clues, here are my analysis so far: I don't think there was anything else in that NB clue except for ice. I could only find one thing related to ice. Maybe someone who has more time can find a subtle hint of something chilly. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Lucktar For RebirthLegend's death, it could be something to do with bathroom or some kind of bad smell, or the pinstripped fedora. I could only find one thing for bad smell. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kingjames01 Zombies have rotten decaying flesh which smells extremely bad. But honestly, I wouldn't put too much trust into lynching by clues as the clues point to multiple people. We got lucky with a painfully obvious clue. I think that as the game goes on though, if we can connect someone with at least 2 clues then there is a good chance that they might be red. | ||
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On October 12 2010 15:48 jaminz wrote: I forgot to do this, but here is a list of the players with zero posts as well: Therick 0 TheMunkey 0 Lexpar 0 AirbladeOrange 0 kenpachi 0 HeavOnEarth 0 kingjames01 0 Neos 0 grandmoose 0 Yogy 0 I striked out all the people who were modkilled or weren't given access to the forums yet to leave people who voted but did not post. Can someone update how many post people have? | ||
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On October 14 2010 18:44 Veldril wrote: For point 1-2, it just a possibilities. No one knows am I poisoned or protected or not. If I'm poison then only Vampires know, if I'm protected only ghost who protected me knows. You were definitely not protected as you didn't seem to know that people who were protected get pmed. On October 14 2010 13:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If someone is hit and survived I will PM them with that information. If a ghost successfully saves someone I will also PM them. It's just not public information. Also, why would the ghost protect you? Stop trying to defend yourself as you are just digging yourself a deeper grave. Just be happy that people are considering not killing you today and save you for some other day. Now to focus on the issue at hand. Among the inactive ones, I am really suspicious of kingjames and HeavOnEarth. Kingjames01 + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 05:10 kingjames01 wrote: I don't agree with the post you made in the Voting Thread. You seem to know something about Veldril and you're trying to bail him out. Is he going to be your Godfather/Count? Is that why you think he should be DT checked? With all of the posts that you two have made it seems very likely that you're trying to take control of the game. I think that you two are allied and that you're most likely Red and that you're trying to fool us all. You even just sent me a PM trying to fish for my role. Everyone, we don't have much time. Think about how Bill Murray has been pressuring us this whole game. Think about Veldril's shallow defence. Consider if they were Red and if their behaviour is consistent with that idea. We need to, as a town, come to a consensus and vote one of these two off. If one is Red, then the other will be. He really seems to want to kill Veldril or maybe just steer the vote away from Masq. HeavOnEarth on the otherhand only has 1 post and all that is is quoting BM and supporting him. I think that for now I'll vote HeavOnEarth. I am also considering voting on glurio as it would reveal BM's alignment and give us a lot of information instead of just speculating which side he is on, but I kind of feel sorry for him as we are condemning him for what BM did. | ||
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Since I'm not much of a clue analyzer an don't think they can be very reliable due to clues oftentimes being accidental or even a red herring, I'm going to focus on behavior analysis. CubEdIn is up first. I took a gist from his posts because a lot of them are in the same spirit. [QUOTE]On October 11 2010 14:57 CubEdIn wrote: [QUOTE]On October 11 2010 14:54 aztrorisk wrote: [quote]I think ShmotZ is a longer shot than Masq. Sure, it is suggestive, but Masq fits it a bit better. There are also a couple other people who have shadowy figures as their picture.[/quote] LOL, a pear indicates a pyscho?!?!? I been looking at other people profile and his is the only one that has a shadowy figure (without a sword and looks immune to bullets) and his picture looks like it can only strangle. + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2010 03:37 CubEdIn wrote: ^ Interesting points off NB. I also noticed that jodogohoo changed votes constantly, was wondering why that is, I didn't really think about the fact that it's ok to go with the flow if you know who NOT to vote for, but if that's the case, it means that everyone he voted for are not from his 'family' (assuming he's either M or V), which brings us back to square one, sort-of. It could also mean that, if all NB saying proves to be true, if Veldril and Masq are in the same team, then jodogohoo is on the other (example: if vel and masq are mafia, jodogohoo is vamp). Basically, as time progresses, I think I'll change my vote not to who I think is more likely to be Mafia or Vampire, but to whom seems to "drag us down" the most. Someone who constantly changes his mind with every few posts may not be so helpful later on. ...I'm still not changing my vote though, not yet. Seems to be agreeing with NB. If he's red, he's likely to be mafia rather than vampire. Calls out jodogohoo for consistently changing his opinion and calls this negatory to the town, which is true. Confusion is always bad. I'm not too sure about the whole voting for who's dragging us down the most instead of Mafia or Vampire though. I am highly suspicious of you after this post. You seem to be nitpicking at Cube's post, but leaving out post which contradicts what you are trying to convey to everyone. He seems to have left out this post purposely. + Show Spoiler + Bold Italic Underline Add image Add link Add spoiler tag Add quote tag Wiki-ize TLPD-ize TSLD-ize un-TLPD-ize Smilies & BBCode Add Poll Upload Image On October 13 2010 07:08 CubEdIn wrote: Yes, I thought about that, but it's a bit of a long shot. I don't think you'll convince many people to vote for Masq on day 2 if Veldril is green. Especially if he's Count/GF and he fakes his role for detective, he might live for the rest of the game. Instead, given Veldril's posts, he would still be suspected even if Masq turns out to be green. More so than vice-versa. My 2 cents. + Show Spoiler + Calls out aztro for being detrimental to town by him asking for protection despite not being very useful to town. This post solidifies CubE as being a townie to me. I really don't see why Veldril would have to be a vamp too just because Masq is one when if it turns out Masq isn't one he's just an overzealous townie? This logic seems very backwards to me. Same goes for the case if he kills Veldril. Using the same logic, Veldril would not vehemently support someone unless he was absolutely sure of his alignment, so Masq would be criminalized by a possible vamp flip as well. Seems very passionate about getting Masq offed. In general mafia games with just one team, this is generally a very scummish thing to say as you already know he won't be mafia, so you have your excuse ready. In this game with three teams however it doesn't ring true as much, and this makes me more hesitant to call CubE out on just this. Pushed his lynch of Masq really hard in day one, but now he's questioning a Veldril lynch after Masq turned up red even though he said he wanted to immediately after day 1? This is very suspicious to me and the most criminalizing post I have found of CubE. Continues to want to wait for the day post which to me is not a good idea since you can get a ton of good behavior analysis done in the night and you may be dead before the next day. Could just be a newbie mistake though. This is just drawing straws. BM PMs everyone during every game to try and get as much info out like a lunatic, which is something he does in every game. For BM, this is nothing out of the ordinary and I wouldn't see it as a scum tell. Definitely far from enough to say 90% M/V. More nitpicking and drawing at straws here just to make it seem likely that Cubedln is likely to be a mafia and then states that he is most likely town to make it seem like he's not really incriminating Cubedln. I don't really get why he's going after Cubedln when there are a lot more suspicious people and his reasoning seems very strange to say the least. | ||
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On October 15 2010 00:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Since I'm not much of a clue analyzer an don't think they can be very reliable due to clues oftentimes being accidental or even a red herring, I'm going to focus on behavior analysis. CubEdIn is up first. I took a gist from his posts because a lot of them are in the same spirit. Seems to be agreeing with NB. If he's red, he's likely to be mafia rather than vampire. Calls out jodogohoo for consistently changing his opinion and calls this negatory to the town, which is true. Confusion is always bad. I'm not too sure about the whole voting for who's dragging us down the most instead of Mafia or Vampire though. I am highly suspicious of you after this post. You seem to be nitpicking at Cube's post, but leaving out post which contradicts what you are trying to convey to everyone. He seems to have left out this post purposely. On October 13 2010 07:08 CubEdIn wrote: Yes, I thought about that, but it's a bit of a long shot. I don't think you'll convince many people to vote for Masq on day 2 if Veldril is green. Especially if he's Count/GF and he fakes his role for detective, he might live for the rest of the game. Instead, given Veldril's posts, he would still be suspected even if Masq turns out to be green. More so than vice-versa. My 2 cents. + Show Spoiler + Calls out aztro for being detrimental to town by him asking for protection despite not being very useful to town. This post solidifies CubE as being a townie to me. I really don't see why Veldril would have to be a vamp too just because Masq is one when if it turns out Masq isn't one he's just an overzealous townie? This logic seems very backwards to me. Same goes for the case if he kills Veldril. Using the same logic, Veldril would not vehemently support someone unless he was absolutely sure of his alignment, so Masq would be criminalized by a possible vamp flip as well. Seems very passionate about getting Masq offed. In general mafia games with just one team, this is generally a very scummish thing to say as you already know he won't be mafia, so you have your excuse ready. In this game with three teams however it doesn't ring true as much, and this makes me more hesitant to call CubE out on just this. Pushed his lynch of Masq really hard in day one, but now he's questioning a Veldril lynch after Masq turned up red even though he said he wanted to immediately after day 1? This is very suspicious to me and the most criminalizing post I have found of CubE. Continues to want to wait for the day post which to me is not a good idea since you can get a ton of good behavior analysis done in the night and you may be dead before the next day. Could just be a newbie mistake though. This is just drawing straws. BM PMs everyone during every game to try and get as much info out like a lunatic, which is something he does in every game. For BM, this is nothing out of the ordinary and I wouldn't see it as a scum tell. Definitely far from enough to say 90% M/V. More nitpicking and drawing at straws here just to make it seem likely that Cubedln is likely to be a mafia and then states that he is most likely town to make it seem like he's not really incriminating Cubedln. I don't really get why he's going after Cubedln when there are a lot more suspicious people and his reasoning seems very strange to say the least. | ||
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On October 15 2010 03:36 KhrisKruel wrote: Post counts are only important for identifying who isn't posting and is lurking. Top poster means nothing. It only identifies play styles, not indicative of scum or town. Yeah that was why I wanted to know post counts. Mostly to know who is lurking. Or those who are trying to keep posting to a minimum as to not give away any information. | ||
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On October 15 2010 04:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Sigh, now I messed up the quotes too. I'm not sure which part to respond here. The bolded part indicates he has doubt about Veldril indeed, however he later posted that it was 100% that Veldril would be lynched if Masq was too. I mistakenly assumed this as him supporting this lynch and therefore thought he was going back on his promise. I had a PM convo with CubE before this accusation, so he can verify that. Nitpicking and drawing at straws are your words, not mine. I was simply analyzing his posts and comparing it to the way townies and mafia have played in previous games, though I also stated that since this is a 3 party game, not all comparisions may be accurate. As for why I choose CubE; I got subbed in late and saw him making a few posts which seemed decently lengthy, so I figured I would have enough posts to analyze. I also never claimed him to be likely mafia; in fact I said he is likely townie, just that there is still a good risk of him being Mafia. Fair enough, but I still find it suspicious that you were singling him out. | ||
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On October 16 2010 03:49 annul wrote: here is the thing i do not like all these people saying "we have problems if he is a vamp" or somehow implying its bad for him to go if he is a vamp the mafia already lost 1 person. this means that, in order for mafia to win AND town to not win, somehow, over the course of the entire game, mafia has to suffer no more than four further kills. the only possible way for mafia to win is if 11 vampires are dead. as soon as five mafia go away, then neither side can win (once vamps go down 5 too) without the town also winning, provided the town's numbers stay up. and remember if there are 61 players and 16 red die, then you have 6 living reds and the town would need 7 living greens/blues. 13 total players. we are nowhere near the point where we have 7 town players left. No actually town needs to kil at least 8 vampires and 8 mafia, not 4 of each. | ||
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On October 16 2010 05:26 annul wrote: we have 1 dead mafia right now. if all vampires die and no more mafia die, then mafia wins and 12 red are dead. so yes, under current scenario, 12 scum kills (assuming mafia wins out from here) is a mafia victory I don't get what you are trying to say here. Mafia doesn't need to kill townies to win so townie numbers doesn't matter to mafia. Even if town has 18 scum kills, it is still a mafia victory as long as only 7 mafias are dead. what i am also saying is that as soon as 5 on each side are dead, NEITHER side can win alone until town has less than 7 left. there can be a double win, but in a double win we still win That doesn't make sense at all. As long as they are able to kill whatever is remaining on the other side without losing at least 3 more members, they can still win alone. | ||
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On October 16 2010 06:53 Pandain wrote: Dr. H, does mafia/vampire always have to use their 3 kp? I don't think they have to, but even then I don't see any reason why they wouldn't use all of their kill points. I'm guessing that there were either 2 people that were protected or mafia/vampire attacked the same person(either one of the dead ones or the one protected) or vampire used poison. | ||
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Well proleague is starting, I'll be back during commercials to see what happens. | ||
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I feel like sleeping for now. | ||
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On October 17 2010 02:48 Pandain wrote: Clue Analysis: "The silver instrument bashed his skull to pieces and the tall figure laughed maniacally as Qatols head crumbled into dust." However, we know not all of it is a clue. So let's divide it into 3 parts. "The Silver instrument bashed his skull to pieces." MetalFace Metal(silver) guy holding a silver instrument(does microphone count as an instrument.) Note it doesn't neccesarily mean hammer. glasse Silverish=whiteish kirby holding a hammer which is partly silver. Loose correlation at best. yummy bla bla kirby holds silver pan. loose correlation. sinquity picture + video. Both silver instruments(?) Are they instruments...so vaugue The other two parts are "Tall figure laughed manically" and "head crumbled into dust." I might do that part too! later... You can add this to the "bashed his skull to pieces" or "headcrumbled into dust" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HeavOnEarth | ||
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On October 17 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote: I'm really starting to think the silver hammer thing is either misleading or just irrelevant. There's really no one it can relate to, and glasse is already (mostly) confirmed not to be it. I think it's really relating to heaven on earth being"unspeakably happy" in cooler weather(midnight.) That's what I just said. If the "wind is telling me to do bad things" is a clue, then it could either point to deconduo or HeavOnEarth. But since the sentence that you mentioned is definitely a clue, it cannot point to deconduo. | ||
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On October 13 2010 10:10 NB wrote: just to make thing clear and make sure that this pm wont face against me in the future, i publicizing it :D I would say this post pretty much points to HeavOnEarth being mafia. Then combine that with the clues. TADAA! | ||
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On October 17 2010 12:25 Coagulation wrote: more like not so secret codes. tigers dont "meow" either. I think brownbears profile would hold more weight on that note We don't necessarily know if the "meow" is part of the clue or just red herring | ||
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I think everyone knows him as he is essentially the player that replaced Bill Murray. He essentially has only 2 post so far. I think that might be to make up for the fact of how BM played the game as to keep attention away from him. On October 14 2010 01:36 glurio wrote: Good day, i'm replacing BM. I hope his actions wont reflect on me. So far i do agree with NB. If Veldril lives through the night we should lynch him. But i still have to read stuff a bit more careful, will take me some time. Bold Italic Underline Add image Add link Add spoiler tag Add quote tag Wiki-ize TLPD-ize TSLD-ize un-TLPD-ize Smilies & BBCode Add Poll Upload Image On October 14 2010 19:09 glurio wrote: I really can't justify any of BM's actions, I don't know how he could, if true, accumulate so many PMs. One would think I would receive some PMs from people that stood in contact with BM, so far not even a handful of people have contacted me. Also I'd like to point out something from last night, it's the reason im going to vote for Veldril. He being a Vampire is nearly confirmed, it's a sure kill which will bring down the killing power of the Vamps by 1. Votes for Vedril, the same person that BM was trying to incriminate. This does not really tell me much as nearly everyone except for a few people voted for vedril. I'll also do a short analysis on BM as he replaced him. From the beginning BM seems focused on one person: Vedril. Even though everyone was voting for masq, he kept trying to turn the attention to Vedril. On October 11 2010 15:41 Bill Murray wrote: PLUS THIS right after. WE got this guy. Veldril is mafia/vampire. On October 11 2010 15:45 Bill Murray wrote: Defense of Masq is noted if you flip scum. This is really, really nice. If he is town, masq is null and we can scumhunt tomorrow, whereas if Veldril is scum Masq is scum. This makes me ok lynching either of them. He says he is ok with lynching either of them but still passionately focuses on Vedril. On October 11 2010 16:18 Bill Murray wrote: in response to bolded, yes. Masq defended Veldril, too. They defended each other. It is a mistake on their part. Yes. Town are uninformed. Mafia know mafia. Vampires know vampires. Honestly, I didn't even read the day posts. I focus more on scouring posts than beating my head into walls of clues.  Says he doesn't focus on clues but he quoted a post that links veldril to a clue earlier. After BM's series of posts against vedril, a lot of people voted for vedril. Most of the people like kenpachi and other people who didn't post in thread but only voted, bandwagoned on vedril. On October 13 2010 03:29 Bill Murray wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 02:47 kingjames01 wrote: This game is crazy. There's too much going on and too many players. Everyone needs to remember: - Vampires know who the other vampires are - Mafia members know who the other mafia are - Only Town doesn't know anything - There are 39 Town-aligned players If there's a bandwagon against someone and everyone starts to join, it ALWAYS benefits the Vampires/Mafia if they know that person doesn't belong to the same team. So slow down and consider that you're probably voting to kill a Green or a Blue. If someone finds a clue in a profile, ask yourself: Did that person check EVERYONE? Did YOU check EVERYONE? If not, you are not doing your due diligence and are going to get innocents killed. The people who are leading the bandwagons ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. Those are the people you should be suspicious of. "Oh guess what everyone? I just found another clue and that means X is guilty. Let's lynch him." If he flips Green/Blue - "Oh, he's Green/Blue? My mistake!" otherwise he'll flip whichever Red team he's not on, "Oh he's Vampire/Mafia? Great, see? I'm helping!" Evaluate the evidence for yourself before you jump on a bandwagon. As for my vote it goes to Veldril for all of his inconsistencies in the game so far. He's playing like he has information to hide and he's hoping he won't get caught. This post from kingjames01 is a complete contradiction i am voting him for this his post = "guys, don't bandwagon blindly" into "i'm gonna vote veldril on weak reasons" because he wants to bandwagon He argued with a lot of people and accused other people. In terms of voting he kept changing his vote to anyone that argues with him. From Coagulation<Vedril<orgolove<vedril<kingjames<pandain and so on Glurio hasn't posted much because of Bill Murray's erratic behavior from before. BM caused a lot of chaos when he was posting and basically after he entered the thread, he divided the attention into masq and vedril. Masq turned out to be vampire and vedril turned out to be innocent. Although he focused on vedril, he also seems to attack everyone. 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On October 17 2010 13:07 KhrisKruel wrote: you should reveal it now, it's too late to change I don't think he has gotten any information on his visit yet. Still I don't get why you would reveal your role? :/ | ||
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On October 17 2010 14:53 SiNiquity wrote: First off, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Artanis[Xp] (can't get the link to work, because of brackets copy/paste it with the [xp] part included) isn't actually linked on the main page (just underlined) so you may have missed this. ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Mjollnir.png) Seems like a clear cut case to me. Lynch Artanis. It's not the clear cut. Artanis only joined the game during night phase 1. That means none of the clues in day 1 could relate to him. As for this day's death, it could indeed point to him. But it could also point to the same person that day1's clue referred to with the lightning part added in as a red herring. | ||
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On October 17 2010 15:55 annul wrote: i am voting lucktar for the very obvious, almost masq-like clue-to-profile similarity. i am not defending jodo, mind you, just that i think that obvious clues > suspicion at this point. Yeah except maybe you forgot to read the part where pandain said jodgo was scanned by dt. | ||
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On October 18 2010 00:14 CubEdIn wrote: I'm not sure if Artanis is the right person to go after, simply because he was not in the game when Day1 clues popped up. The silver hammer was a Day1 clue, and now it shows up again. Most likely, it's the same person, which kinda rules Artanis out (somewhat). So I'm not sure what to say. I agree that the clue is pretty damning, but you guys are missing the previous people. I was gonna vote for Aztrorisk but he went to complete silence, so he's not annoying anymore. So I would go for either HeavOnEarth or Kenpachi. Simply because they're being awfully quiet. So, in memory of Pandain, here's my vote for HoE. This, I think that I'll go after HeavOnEarth again seeing as he still don't seem to be posting. We need to get rid of the inactive ones or at least force them to post as otherwise they are just dead weight and we also can't analyze their post. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica was sitting at his desk deep within the Liquidvania jail. The jail used to be a dungeon when Dracula was in power and there were still bloodstains on the old stone walls. He heard footsteps coming down the hall, assuming it was the deputy warden coming to do his rounds he didn't even look back but just absorbed himself in his book on zombie history. The door creaked open and the footsteps stopped. DoctorHelvetica looked back at the open doorway but saw no one. "Hello? Who's there!?" he cried out, only to be greeted by the echo of his own tired voice. He walked nervously over to shut the door when he a large figure lunged through the doorway at him. DoctorHelvetica reached for his gun and shot the figure where his head should be but his bullet didn't seem to do anything to the shadowy figure. The large man grabbed the jailkeeper by his throat and strangled the life from him mercilessly. This is obviously NB, and I'm guessing this is how the vampires found out he was mafia. Not too far from the crypt where DoctorHelvetica now knew only as his grave, BloodyC0bbler was sitting in his car. He was drunk and tired from an all night party with some hot single zombie ladies and decided to take a nap in his car. Little did he know a terrible evil lurked outside his vehicle, waiting to strike. He awoke to the sound of scratching and whispering outside his door. He stepped outside into the cold night and was grabbed from behind. A knife plunged deep into his throat, ending his struggle quickly. His body was found that morning with the face carved up like a jack o lantern. The work of a true psycho. This one has been confirmed to be masq which is why he was lynched during the first day Incognito was closing up the Liquidvania Library late that night. As the security guard, he spent many hours a night doing rounds around the halls of the library and at the hour of midnight, he'd close the small building down. Just as he was going to lock the front door he began to hear a soft sound coming from the very back of the building. He pulled out his flashlight and nightstick and made his way back. It became clearer to him as he made his way to the back that the sound was music and he guessed it was coming from a computer that hadn't powered off. He stepped through the hallways, chasing the sound from corner to corner but never finding the source. As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly. Possible clues from this one is music, but since it wasn't specified what kind of music that is very vague and I doubt that the music is really a clue. Another clue could be not being able to find the source of music, but I couldn't find anything relating to that, so I'm skipping that part unless someone can point something out. Now the other part is the daggers. At first, I mistook it for Vedril because of my bias as an anime fan, but since Vedril turned out to be innocent it can only point to one other person: kingjames01 This is a quote from his profile: "Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers." This seems to be from a book called "Path of Daggers." http://wot.wikia.com/wiki/The_Path_of_Daggers/Prologue/ Notice the s in daggers which might be what "cold steel from every direction" might mean instead of the "unlimited blade works" from Veldril's profile. In the town plaza, Qatol was having a midnight jog. The Simon Belmont Fountain (named in honor of the vampire slayer who ended Dracula's reign over Liquidvania) calmed him and helped him forget about his stressful job and the everyday woes of being a human in a town full of monsters. Tired, he sat for a break on a bench. Before long a shadowy figure came to sat next to him. Qatol turned to the tall man "Hey stranger, out for a nice run too?" The tall man didn't answer. Qatol felt uncomfortable and stood up to leave. Right before he stepped off the stranger grabbed the back of his shirt. Qatol turned around to defend himself but was met with a hammer. The silver instrument bashed his skull to pieces and the tall figure laughed maniacally as Qatols head crumbled into dust. That part has been confirmed as a clue according to pandain. Notice that the hammer is not really part of the clue, so I don't think it really applies to glasse. So for silver instrument this people come up: 1. MetalFace Doctor doom holding a silver instrument 2. YummyBlaBla - Kurby with a silver cooking pan. The clue could also be the "bashed his skull to pieces" or "head crumbled to dust." I found 1 people that could relate to that. 1. HeavOnEarth - "Break every bone in your face If you mess with my life" That is a quote from his profile. All in all, I would suggest to the mad scientist to confirm which part of the clue is the actual clue which would narrow it down nicely. In a nearby cafe Korynne was enjoying a late coffee. She had just got off a very long shift at the Alfred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital and needed the energy just to make the drive home. There was only one other person in the cafe and she couldn't help but get a weird feeling from him. As she left the cafe and got into her car she could sense he was following her. She drove for a long distance and when she stopped in her driveway she could swear she heard a noise in the backseat. She looked behind her and saw nothing. Her mind was playing tricks on her. She turned her head back to find something much worse. The man from the cafe was sitting in the passenger seat of her car and had a gun pressed to her temple. The gunshot was silenced, her body wouldn't be found until the morning. This one, I tried finding a connection to coffee and hospital but couldn't find anything in anyone's profile. Next I tried looking for a connection to a car and one profile came up:kenpachi He has a picture of akatsuki ninjas driving a car in his profile. The silenced gunshot could indicate the stealthy nature of ninjas and the car one is pretty obvious. Meeple liked to spend his evenings drinking and gambling at the "Indian Burial Ground Casino". After a particularly long night of drinking and wasting his money he stumbled into the alley behind the casino to vomit. When he turned back there was a man blocking his path. "hey buddy...cud'ya move please..?" meeple stammered drunkenly. "Can you hear it? The wind is speaking. It's telling me to do bad things. Very bad things." "Shudda fuk up..." Meeple spat at the cloaked figure. The man merely smiled and pulled a small hatchet out from inside his coat. He hacked away at Meeples skull, leaving him to die in a pool of his own vomit. The first thing in here that could be a clue is "The wind is speaking" which could refer to 2 people: 1.HeavOnEarth - "The cooler weather makes me unspeakably happy..." 2.Deconduo - A picture of a sailboat. Sailboats are directed by wind, where the wind goes the sailboat goes which could be "it's telling me" part. Next, I looked for a hatchet, but unfortunately I couldn't find anything in anyone's profile. If I missed anything, please tell me as I can't really get all the random references in people's profile. So far, the most convincing one out of all of these is kingjames01, so I am changing my vote to him. Also in Day 2 clue, there is also the "bad small coming from the bathroom" clue which could refer to his zombie picture as zombies have rotten smell. 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On October 18 2010 12:30 kitaman27 wrote: Quality analysis. Looking back, here is one thing that should be added to the list. That clue seemed to be the least obvious to me, but coffee and "Aflred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital" were the two things that stood out. I couldn't find anything to do with coffee either, but I discovered something that may have to do with the second part. In deconduo's profile there is a poem: I typed it into google and the first link that came up was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Song_of_J._Alfred_Prufrock Alfred Hitchcock.....Alfred Prufrock? I think it is unlikely that it is a mere coincidence. Actually, I just did a quick google into Alfred Hitchcock. Apparently he's a movie director. So that could actually be a clue that could relate to someone's profile as someone's bound to have a quote or something based on a movie that Alfred Hitchcock directed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock#1940s_films | ||
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On October 18 2010 17:30 Divinek wrote: the fact you had to google to figure that out terrifies me Hahahaha, I have very little knowledge of anything mainstream except for anime XD | ||
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Well since day phase is ending in around 2 hours, I don't think many people will change their vote now. And it seems like my post is rather getting ignored too. Artanis clue to me seems as obvious as kyplosis clue or whoever is that guy is with the big cat. It seems like an obvious red herring, and I would rather not vote based on a clue that could point to multiple people. I am going to change my vote back to HeavOnEarth as it seems that there's nothing I can do to change people's mind in 2 hours to change their vote from HeavOnEarth, glurio, and Artanis. I feel like the inactive people are REALLY DRAGGING us down. | ||
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Somewhere deep in the town, bumatlarge was sitting alone at a bar at midnight. He wasn't alone, there was another man sitting in the corner. The man stared at bum, making him nervous and jittery. As he started pounding down more drinks the man approached him. He was thin and gaunt, he appeared to be a scholar of some sort. The man finally spoke "Excuse me sir, I believe you've had too much to drink. Do you need a ride home?" bumatlarge chuckled to himself. He'd just have to accept the ride and he could kill this odd stranger with his pure brute strength. "Yes, I do." Bum smirked. Surely this thin man would be no match for the vampire brute. As bumatlarge stepped into the mans car, he began to laugh. But he wasn't laughing when a revolver was pressed against his temple. With one shot, his brains were sprayed out of the window of the car and it drove off into the night never to be seen again. First thing that stands out to me is "scholar of some sort." But this is also a very vague statement in my opinion as many people can be a scholar at something. 1. a learned or erudite person, esp. one who has profound knowledge of a particular subject. 2. a student; pupil. Thin and gaunt can basically be discarded as a clue as most deaths seem to have that. Can musicians be considered scholar? If so, lots of people can be added to the list(I'm disregarding it as I don't want to list 10 people) If it follows the student definition, it means that a lot of people are basically suspected as most people here are in college or high school I presume. But only people in college put something in their profile as college students, and here they are: 1.grandmoose - Majoring in Math. 2.jcarlsoniv - Double Major in Math and Business. 3.MetalFace - Economics 4.LuckTar - Philosphy Additional things besides being a student that could relate to being a scholar(a bit of a long shot): 5.kingjames01 - Apparently his name "King James I" is considered scholar in real life. 6.quickstriker - Picture of Lelouch <3. Lelouch is an extremely smart guy so he might be considered a scholar. 7.Nemesis - I can't be biased now, same thing as quickstriker. Now that we have the scholar part is over, the next thing that stood out to me is "began to laugh" so that infers that something looks funny, maybe the car. This one I had a rather hard time finding anything. The closest thing I could find is the troll face: 8.KtheZ - Still a bit of a long shot though. Now the other thing is that this seemed to happen "inside" the car once again. "Stepped into the man's car." Although, there are lots of deaths around cars, there is only two deaths that actually happen inside the car. This and the silenced gunshot death. 9.kenpachi - Only person with something in his profile relating to a car. Next closest thing is a "train" which is a very long shot. In summary, I hate this clue. It is too vague and points to too many people. I would suggest narrowing it down first by checking the "scholar" part first which would remove more than half the suspects. And I suggest that someone do a follow-up analysis on this clue after that had been done. A few miles east of that bar, LSB was lurking the Liquidvanian pumpkin patch. He happened across a huge pumpkin. It would be perfect for a bomb! Excited, LSB took the pumpkin and loaded it into his truck. As he drove home he could have sworn he heard meowing somewhere in his car. He disregarded it at first, but as it grew louder he stopped his truck and got out to inspect it. As he peered in the window of his backseat he felt what seemed to be huge claws dig into his temple, crushing his skull and ending his life. As he bled to death on the floor, shards of his skull swimming around in his now liquified brain, he pressed a small button on his wrist: blowing up the pumpkin he had left at the home of youngminii. The "meowing" was confirmed as part of the clue according to someone in the thread and this pretty much points to brownbear who was killed by vampires during the night phase. RebirthOfLeGenD had holed himself in his home, hoping to avoid the mass murders that were occuring across liquidia. As he sat spinning about in his computer chair, he smelled something awful coming from his restroom. The smell made his eyes well up with tears and he rushed to the bathroom to see what it is and hopefully clean it up. A man stood in his bathroom, wearing a pinstriped fedora. Rebirth tried to flee but a bullet met the back of his skull before he could take two steps out of the way. For this I checked two things. First, is the something awful coming from the restroom. 2 People came up in my search: 1.kingjames01 - Zombie picture. Zombies have rotten flesh and rotten anything smells awful as hell. 2.=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=annul]annul - Pun on name? anus, something awful from the bathroom. Can Dr H confirm if username can be used as part of the clue? The other part that stood out to me is the pin-striped fedora. Now there was no one in particular that had a fedora in their profile but these are the connections that I got: 1.Aeres - picture of a mafia(someone confirm this?) in his profile. Not necessarily fedora but mafias are known for wearing fedoras. 2.kingjames01 - His zombie profile has a hat, even though it is not necesseraly a fedora. 3.YummyBlaBla - This one is the LOOSEST correlation ever, I am just being extra careful with not excluding possible clues, but basically "striped" tiger in profile. This is not really conclusive as it points to 3 to 4 people. I would suggest that the mad scientist try and find the real clue here. Somewhere deep in the mafia headquarters, NB was sitting at his desk. The mafia were slowly rising up in the town of Liquidvania and he was quite pleased with himself. As he chuckled and drank whiskey he began to feel a chill across his skin. He looked to the window to make sure it wasn't left open but it was closed. The chill began to grow into a freezing cold and he could feel his heart slowing down. Eventually it stopped beating. Before he died a gaunt and pale man appeared before him. "This town belongs to the Count." the man snarled at him. With a single punch, NB's body was shattered to pieces. For this death, there are only 2 possible clues here: Whiskey or alcohol, and "Chill" or something "Icy" seeing as "body was shattered to pieces" basically means his body was frozen. For alcohol, I couldn't really find anything in anyone's profile. For ice, a couple of people come up: 1. HeavOnEarth - "The cooler weather makes me unspeakably happy..." 2. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ghrur] - "The man gazed into the snow." 3. [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Lucktar] - A Polar bear trying to eat apple frozen in ice for his picture. For this one, I would suggest to Scientist to try and relate the clue to a specific person. | ||
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On October 20 2010 07:56 annul wrote: "CLEARLY SARCASM" i love that defense i read your entire post, i just filter the relevant information I thought he was the romanian one here XD On October 20 2010 01:34 CubEdIn wrote: I propose me as leader and we just take random shots at people I find suspicious (like lack of posts, funny names, "feels like a red"). I bet we'll do better than we did so far. Tell me if that sounds like a serious post. | ||
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Kenpachi's clue in day 1 is also alone in my previous post, but I felt that my analysis about that clue was a bit lacking as I now realized that "silenced gunshot" can also point to multiple people. | ||
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Also, Doctor H, can clues be related to someone's username? | ||
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At CubedIn. I wouldn't be too quick to judge with the red eyes thing as last time there was a "red glow" and it turned out to be just a filler and the real clue was the invisible part(thegilaboy). There is also the "sound of metal dragging" as part of the clue. I really doubt that "stain hands" can be used as a reference to claws as the person who said that is the character in my profile and he doesn't have claws. The red killing red as a subtle part is pretty cool though. Another thing I would like to note of is the impenetrable armor. MetalFace - also notice the silver instrument. I'll do a more detailed analysis later on, but right now I think the most obvious clue are the hittegod and metalface one. | ||
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Thumbs up to you KhrisKruel and hypberbola! It seems that the most obvious reds are most likely vampires. I think it would be more beneficial to lynch a mafia today, but I don't really see any obvious mafia right now. For now, I'll vote MetalFace as the clue pointing to him killed a vampire so most likely he is mafia. I might change my vote later after I have done my own analysis if I have time, or after you guys are done with your analysis. | ||
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Coagulation was walking down the road late at night, on his way to the home of a friend. While his feet clacked against the stone pavement he began to feel a light drizzle, cursing under his breath as he looked for something to duck under. He sat under a stoop, clutching his brown bag of liquor, hoping the rain would end soon. The drizzle quickly became a storm and soon lightning followed it. A single bolt of lightning stuck the ground in front of coag, illuminating a huge man in front of him. "Why don't you get under here? You must be soaked..." Coagulation said to the stranger. The large man was silent in response. Coagulation decided to ignore him and wait the storm out with his bottle of "Wolfman's Full Moon Whiskey" Coagulation heard a sound like metal scraping against the ground and he looked to the man who was holding a huge hammer. Coagulation's eyes widened in fear but he couldn't run before the huge hammer struck the side of his skull, crushing his head into a fine powder. Artanis - This one is pretty much confirmed with Artanis dead and red. Somewhere across the way, Pandain was running for his life. He was being chased by two men through the Liquidvanian Central Park, trying desperately to weave through the trees. The smaller of the two men was craft, he predicted every move Pandain would make before he made it. His larger companion bumbled through the forest, running into trees and stumbling on wet mud. Pandain finally ducked under a brush, feeling safe. He said a prayer to himself and tried his best to be quiet. Quiet wasn't enough. There was a blindingly quick kick to his head, knocking him on his back and knocking him out cold. The small man sat on Pandain's back, driving his face deep into the mud. Pandain was brutally slain by the two, torn limb from limb. The town would find his body parts separated and left in neat rows of eight, covered in blood and mud. This one is a bit of a hard clue to disect. There are two people first of all as two people attacked Pandain. Most likely from the same team as they seemed to work together. For the smaller one, it says he was craft and predicted and every move Pandain made, now this links to a couple of people: 1.chesshaha - Usename of chesshaha. Chess is a game which requires you to predict your opponent's every move. 2.quickstriker - Lelouch(his character profile) is someone who was known to be good at chess and wins battles by predicting every move his opponent move 3.Nemesis - Lelouch<3 For the larger one, it says "running into trees" that means that he is clumsy. So I looked for big and clumsy. I couldn't really relate anyone to big and clumsy, but for big a few people came up: 1.lankill - Picture of a giant killer ape and a small killer ape. 2.XeliN - Some kind of giant hulk like person as picture. It says that there was a blindingly quick kick to the head: 1.quickstriker - "Quick Striker", "blindingly quick kick" see the connection? 2.oddo123 - Picture of soccer player in his profile. Now the arranged in neat rows of eight, I thought about it for a while. At first, I could fine anyone with a special connection to the number eight. But then when I made the connection with chess as I used chessed before in this clue. I realized that chess is an 8x8 board, which once again brings us back to this suspects: 1.chesshaha - Usename of "chess"haha. 2.quickstriker - Lelouch(his character profile) is someone who is known to be good at chess and is also holding a king in the picture in his profile 3.Nemesis - Lelouch<3 BrownBear sat alone in his house, watching a movie in the dark. From the corner of his eye he saw a red glow in his yard. Figuring it was some sort of rodent pest, he went into the yard with a bat to scare the thing off. He shut the screen door behind him and turned on his flashlight. He saw nothing there and as he turned back to go inside he could hear footsteps run quickly behind him. He turned around and swung his bat but yet again there was nothing to be seen. Frustrated and scared, he opened the door and took one step behind and was immediately crushed with a single blow to the back of the head. He would never see what killed him. This one is pretty much confirmed to be thegilaboy. ShmotZ was floating wistfully across the streets of Liquidvania, looking for victims to scare. He found a thin and short man in an alleyway, the perfect victim. BOO! ShmotZ jumped around the corner, expecting to scare the pants off the man, but he was met with a steely gaze. The man smirked and jumped on ShmotZ, whipping a small axe out of his belt to slaughter him with. ShmotZ would never haunt again. Two things stand out to me in this clue: steely gaze and small axe The steely gaze I thought was far too vague though. If you still want to know who came up even though I think it might not be too relevant here it is: 1. Neos - picture of a sunglass in his profile 2.http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Hittegods］Hittegods[/url] - That looks like some sharp gaze to me. Small axe seems like a solid clue. It seems that before there was also a hatchet which can be considered a small axe too. He also seems to use a belt which he places items on. Only one person came out in my search for an axe: 1.lankill - "I'm a computer science major and games besides starcraft that I enjoy are mostly older games like super metroid and golden axe, also some newer pc games." Now on to Day 4 clues then Artanis[Xp] was polishing his hammer in the garage when he heard a sound like metal dragging on the ground. He turned quickly toward the source of the noise, but saw nothing. He shrugged and continued working on his hammer when he felt something brush against his neck, it had fallen lightly on him from the ceiling. He looked up to see red eyes glowing back at him. His assailant dropped onto his body, rending his body with huge claws. He was found later that morning chained to the wall, his jaw removed from his skull. Metal dragging on the ground. Dragging means that it is something that is being carried. The closest thing I could find to that was this: SiNiquity - Picture of a robot in his profile. It could maybe "drag" its legs. Even though this is the closest that I found, I am still not convinced as the sound of metallic footsteps are different from being metal being dragged. Something small fell on him. The only thing that came to mind here is this: Neos - picture of sunglasses. When you are hanging from the cieling it is only natural for your sunglasses to fall off. And finally the red eyes: 1.quickstriker - Although lelouch's eyes are naturally purple, geass is reddish in color. 2.Nemesis - same as the above one. I disregarded the "claws" as claws seem to be apparent in the killings even though in previous cases it had no connection at all to the person. I would suggest to the mad scientist to confirm if the red eyes are indeed part of the clue. Lucktar was spending the evening drinking away at a club. He tried unsucessfuly to gain the attention of some of the better looking women, scaring them off with his sleazy one liners and caked on cologne. He made his way to the bathroom that night, but he would never leave. He shut the door of the bathroom behind him and turned to face a huge man. He felt a sense of impending dread, as though his life would end soon. The gigantic man grabbed him by the shoulders and delivered a headbutt so powerful it caved in the top of Lucktar's skull. He died slowly and painfully on the floor of a dirty bar restroom, a fitting end for a creep. A gigantic man with a powerful headbutt. 1.oddo123 - As been mentioned by someone previously, there was a headbutt incident in soccer where one person got seriously injured because of a headbutt. 2.Xelin - A headbutt by that big guy in his profile would seriously hurt. 3.[urlhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=grandmoose]grandmoose[/url] - This one is I think a bit far off as the person seemed to die from physical strength not horns, but basically a picture of a moose. A moose with its horn can probably kill a person with its headbutt. It was a quiet night at the Mothman Movie Theatre and thegilaboy was the only person in attendance for a midnight screening of The Rocky Horror Picture show. Or so he thought. The movie ended and he walked down the stairs of the dark theatre room, hearing a clanking behind him. He turned to see an enormous shadow. Feeling threatened, thegilaboy leaped out and struck the large figure. Even though he possessed superhuman strength, the bones of his fist broke easily as he punched what seemed to be impenetrable armor. The figure simply picked thegilaboy off the ground and snapped his neck with one hand. He was found sitting upright in a chair with both of his eyes missing. Impenetrable Armor where human bones easily break. At first this seemed like an obvious clue. But a second look shows that it is indeed obvious, but I actually found 2 people instead of the 1 that I was expecting relating to this clue: 1.MetalFace - Picture of doctor doom in his profile who is wearing a thick layer of armor 2.zerroth - He has an Alphonse Elric quote in his profile. Alphonse Elric had his soul transferred to an armor. kingjames01 had returned home that night. He was tired from a long night of dastardly deeds and was ready to retire to his coffin. Out of the corner of his eye, he noticed a small piece of furniture in his den had moved. Curious he walked toward it, unaware of the man hiding around the corner. He moved the chair back to its place and was then struck in the back of the head by a baseball bat. He crumpled to the floor, his killer laughing maniacally as he bashed kingjames' skull to pieces with the bat. With this clue there are only 2 people who comes into mind: 1.Hittegods - Picture of a guy holding a baseball bat 2.HeavOnEarth - "Break every bone in your face" once again. YummyBlaBla made a late night stop at the pharmacy for some pain medication. He was walking back to his truck in the dark parking lot when he heard a roar. The loud noise startled him. There are no lions or tigers in Liquivania, but what was waiting for him was much worse. He hurriedly made his way into the truck, but an arm grabbed him from the back and pulled him out. He felt a knife stab into the back of his neck and as soon as he died, his attacker had fled the scene. A loud roar it seems. But nothing related to lions or tiger. These are the two closest things that I could find: 1.kitaman27 - Picture of a person screaming, not sure if you could consider that a roar. 2. XeliN - Picture of a huge hulk like guy roaring. | ||
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MetalFace on the otherhand would do the same except between him and zerroth. Bandwagoning against hittegod at this point is I think extremely risky. We have already lost quite a lot of active members, and it would hurt townies if they lost even more active members. On the otherhand, if you vote one of the inactive ones with a strong clue against them like HeavOnEarth and MetalFace, it wouldn't matter whether they are townies or not as they were not contributing anything anyways. | ||
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On October 22 2010 11:55 KhrisKruel wrote: I seriously doubt that after 4 days of play a lurker is suddenly going to start posting. What's to say he just goes right back to doing what he's been doing all game? Are we gonna wait for a day during day 5 then be like "well that was his last warning, everyone vote for him." No, cause we're gonna find other people to lynch. Kenpachi will be forgotten again. He only shows up to the thread whenever someone says his name. Think about that. Whenever someone says his name. He's lying about not paying attention. He's actively lurking. This won't change, it's a way for scum to avoid detection. Who said that we have to forget people we were suspicious about. I'm still suspicious of HeavOnEarth(since day2) and I still want to lynch him. Annul can check if that car clue really refers to Kenpachi too using Mad Scientist. | ||
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At first, I was even doubting myself putting Neos in the suspect list, but looks like I was right. Once again, I am asking the ghost to PROTECT ME as I have most likely been poisoned the night before by kingjames01 as a KP is missing and I was the one that revealed him as red. | ||
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On October 22 2010 15:30 KhrisKruel wrote: I'm not happy with this game right now. I'll see you guys in day 5 Hmm not happy with having 3 reds killed, sounds suspicious. | ||
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On October 23 2010 12:40 Hyperbola wrote: I think the mafia/vampires are not going to target town, instead they are going to target each other for the next few days. Think about it: if either side starts to kill town instead of killing off mafia then they are only putting themselves at a disadvantage because for all they know the other side is hunting them. It would take 2-3 nights for vampires and mafia to even up the scales between scum and town. And this is assuming they hit with every one of their kp flawlessly, work in a communion, and have no members lynched or mod-killed. An alliance would solve this, but forming alliances now would be too risky for both sides. Therefore, the only logical conclusion in my point of view is to have both sides race to the finish. Either way, if town plays really carefully now and everyone votes, we have a high chance of winning. Pretty much this, townies have best chance of winning right now | ||
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Looks like we need to lynch another vampire today Anyways, I'm not gonna analyze the new clues yet but from the old ones I think it's time HeavOnEarth finally gets the attention that he needs. Seems hittegod turned out to be innocent, there's a fair chance that that clue refers to HeavOnEarth. There are also various clues referring to him if you read my previous clue analysis. Also HeavOnEarth voted for veldril day 1 along with other vampires. Hopefully that is enough to convince everyone as I don't want to make another long post >.< | ||
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HeavOnEarth - "And bury you in a coffin made of your A coffin made of your deceptions" How many clues do we need pointing to HeavOnEarth before we finally lynch him, he's survived 3 days worth of lynching so far | ||
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I'll post my analysis on why HeavOnEarth is as good a target after this. | ||
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In the first day, there are two possible clues that could refer to HeavOnEarth That part has been confirmed as a clue according to pandain. Notice that the hammer is not really part of the clue, so I don't think it really applies to glasse. So for silver instrument this people come up: 1. MetalFace Doctor doom holding a silver instrument 2. YummyBlaBla - Kurby with a silver cooking pan. The clue could also be the "bashed his skull to pieces" or "head crumbled to dust." I found 1 people that could relate to that. 1. HeavOnEarth - "Break every bone in your face If you mess with my life" That is a quote from his profile. All in all, I would suggest to the mad scientist to confirm which part of the clue is the actual clue which would narrow it down nicely. The first thing in here that could be a clue is "The wind is speaking" which could refer to 2 people: 1.HeavOnEarth - "The cooler weather makes me unspeakably happy..." 2.Deconduo - A picture of a sailboat. Sailboats are directed by wind, where the wind goes the sailboat goes which could be "it's telling me" part. Next, I looked for a hatchet, but unfortunately I couldn't find anything in anyone's profile. Now among the dead vampires, I am sure that two of the clues relate to: Masq, and kingjames01. Now as there are 3 vampire KP per day, that would mean that there is 1 vampire left. If the first clue that I quoted actually refer to MetalFace, then that would mean that those are the three of the vampires for that day. If that is so, and the second clue that I quoted actually referred to HeavOnEarth, then that means that HeavOnEarth is a mafia instead of actually being a vampire. Since there is the chance of HeavOnEarth actually being a mafia, I would actually go with glasse here as his clue is just as solid. Here I'll do a thorough clue analysis on that clue so that everyone can see what glasse is talking about: Aeres was walking through the park, away from the scene of a mafia brawl when he fell into a pit trap. His bones cracked and broke when he hit the floor, the fall was long. Whoever had dug it must have had a lot of time on their hands. He heard sounds of crying around him. Was he alone down here? He cried for help only to hear his own echo. Dirt began to fall on his head, he realized that he was being buried alive. He screamed an awful scream as the dirt buried him, suffocating him, and ending his life. kitaman27 - Here is his profile for those too lazy to click ![[image loading]](http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d36/kitaman27/kingcrimson.jpg) Epitaph-King Crimson The wall on which the prophets wrote Is cracking at the seams. Upon the instruments of death The sunlight brightly gleams. When every man is torn apart With nightmares and with dreams, Will no one lay the laurel wreath When silence drowns the screams. Confusion will be my epitaph. As I crawl a cracked and broken path If we make it we can all sit back And laugh. But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying, Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying. Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools. Confusion will be my epitaph. As I crawl a cracked and broken path If we make it we can all sit back And laugh. But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying, Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying. Just notice the parts that I bolded from the clue and from his quote. I think you can easily connect the dots from here. TlDR; Lynch kitaman27 | ||
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On October 24 2010 12:58 SiNiquity wrote: Dude wtf, there are 11 vampires total not 3. There are 5 vampires remaining and 4 mafia remaining based on my count from the previous page. However, I think the clue is very fitting. Nice find. Nono, I meant for the first day clue since vampires only have 3 kill points, that only 3 of the clues can point to vampires and the other 3 has to point to mafias. | ||
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Now I'm starting to doubt my position again...hmm you know what I don't care either lynch is fine with me. | ||
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GG Townies win this round! ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH! | ||
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So now this is my I told you so moment And the people who I was sharing my information with(ahem* decondou and glasse) didn't reveal that annul was the Count by revealing my plan of telling annul about zerroth(I figured it out by clues) and then protecting him. And indeed zerroth was attacked. I didn't expect them to not reveal my information in case I died>.< Anyways, well played by annul, if only townies looked a little deeper they might have won. | ||
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On October 29 2010 07:51 Glasse wrote: annul was obviously not town, meh. I was working with some peeps but i knew we had lost anyway You could have just easily revealed my pms and town could have easily won | ||
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I'm guessing you figured out I was blue from witch blocking me, but why did you wait so long to kill me if that is so? Here are my pm's with glasse and deconduo. This one is with glasse + Show Spoiler + the night after i roleclaimed i didnt die, you never know what they think, nobody knows you're a ghost. idk if they will target you over obvious people. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: Since I'm pretty sure there are no other ghost around and that I've been poisoined I'll leave all my information to you. Do with it what you want. If you don't want to do anything, you can pass this info on to either Node or CubedIn as I trust that they are townies. This one I would prefer if you keep out of public(if you are not planning on using this info I suggest passing it on to Node): First thing I want to tell you is that I was planning on claiming blue to annul next night phase so I can talk to mad scientist and have him check the bathroom clue(day 2 rotten smell) on annul because he seems very fishy to me. He was one of the people who voted for veldril in the beginning along with other vampires and did not vote for metalface who turned out to be vampire. Since dt has checked him, he might be vampire lord. Maybe, he is just actually stupid and not really a red though. Here is a list of people I protected and their results: Night 1:orgolove - it seems he was attacked the night phase, and it is most likely vampire as he was killed by vampire. If you guys need to look for additional vampire suspects look for people who attacked orgolove in day1 for his spreadsheet. Night 2andain - I was told that I scared off a man with a weapon that came into his house but unfortunately, pandain left and never returned or something like that. Night 3:CubedIn - It seems that I was roleblocked in Night 3 by the witch though. Good thing that he didn't get attacked that night. There is a possibility that the witch gets told that he successfully blocked me and thus knows I'm a blue and so mafia might try and kill me. So If I don't actually get killed by poison but still die, I was most likely killed by mafia Night 4: Node - If there is a kill point missing this night. It means that someone most likely attacked him. Last thing is on next day suspects for lynching: Mafia - if townies needs to kill a mafia, I would suggest zerroth. Although MetalFace did indeed appeare scum, the clue should've cleared zerroth. But if you look again at the clue related to him, that armored person supposedly killed a vampire, and since MetalFace turned out to be a vampire it is impossible for the clue to relate to him. So in fact the town got lucky with MetalFace turning out to be a vampire XD. So only person left with impenetrable armor is zerroth. Furthermore, he voted for glurio day 2 to save his mafia buddy artanis. Vampire - if townies need to kill a vampire, I would suggest lynching heavonearth. Several clues point to him and with the other people related to those clues dead, he is most likely a vampire. Furthermore, he voted for veldril day1. Well that's it, and hopefully I don't die + Show Spoiler + good to know, ill look foward to that ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: I have told annul, my suspected count about the zerroth clue and I am protecting zerroth for tonight, so if a KP is missing, vampires attacked zerroth and annul is indeed vampire lord. And I finally had contact with MS and having ghrur checked for the freezing clues. With deconduo + Show Spoiler + Well we just need the one vamp tbh. Annul might know a lot of blues, but he cant start mass killing us without making it incredibly obvious. Gonna check the ghrur clue. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: Well I just wanted to suggest checking the freezing clue with ghrur. Since the freezing killed NB, it is most likely vampire, and since 2 out of 3 of my suspects died, I think I'm pretty sure about him. Another thing that I want to suggest is to check out annul, I think that he might be vampire lord. Notice how he hasn't voted for any known vampires at all. I'm not sure about this one that was why I also want it checked. Day 2 clue about rotten smell from bathroom. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Clue checks so far: -Silver hammer/instrument clue does not point to Glasse. -Torn limb from limb, laid out in neat rows of 8 does not point to lucktar -Thin, gaunt scholar does not point to Nemesis -The kitten clue does point to BrownBear. As you can see, most of the checks have been kinda useless unfortunately. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: So you were the Mad Scientist :X What was that about not getting any names before? XD I wanted to confirm a few clues for myself. But just in case that clue has already been checked, I want to know what you have checked so far. In return, I guess I'll also tell you who I protected in previous days, although I'm not sure how you can use that information for yourself. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Heard you wanted to talk to me from annul, whats up. And I almost forgot that I also contacted annul to get more information out of him that I could use to incriminate him when day phase comes. I couldn't just incriminate him without solid evidence as he is trusted by his "town circle." But I died before I could do that + Show Spoiler + From: annul [ 238 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: . Date: 10/24/10 11:09 i will ask him if he wants me to reveal him to you. but you should know that my MS was NOT DT checked, hence he is not a confirmed MS. i believe him, but it is not a guarantee. i will still ask him for you. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: Can I have the name of the MS? As you probably noticed, I am a bit obsessed with the clues and I would like to start working with MS as soon as possible ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: oh i misinterpreted what you meant by this message you want to be checked tonight, yes? see i thought when you said roleclaim that you wanted to claim something, not ask to be blue checked. i get it, okay you will be checked tonight ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: Since I survived the night, I think it's time to roleclaim. You have a mad scientist with you right? I'd suggest that you keep my roleclaiming a secret and maybe even my role too except from the dt. Ahem JoL and Frankenstein is the easiest to claim for count/godfather as they don't get any additional info from night phase that other blues get + Show Spoiler + From: annul [ 238 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: . Date: 10/26/10 05:37 i never said i was having you checked. i said i would let you know if we chose you. you arent the only one who came to us. and now with one of my DTs modkilled i want people to claim early. you probably will NOT be who my second DT checks, by the way. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: I thought you were having me dt checked tonight. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: i claimed in the thread like 10 days ago i am a JOL. what are you? you have not told me your role yet either. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Nemesis: btw I'm just curious what is your role? | ||
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On October 29 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it was not smart to roleclaim when you did town could have won pretty easily if you didn't rc I think that vampires already knew he was mafia anyway as he was hit before. | ||
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On October 29 2010 09:25 annul wrote: nemesis: the "i will have you checked" inconsistency was a blunder on my part, but i had told many people who asked to be blue checked that i would let them know if we chose them, and i figured i told you that too, which i didnt furthermore, we were going after zerroth anyway even without you pointing him out to me. so if you "proved" my vampire lord role from that, you'd have lucked into it and would have been right, but for the wrong reason. I had plenty of other arguments that I was planning to use besides that, but you can call it the meat of my sandwich. Edit: Such as the aeres incident with kitaman. I don't know how people missed that. Especially when kitaman said he pmed someone about checking Aeres and then he died the next night phase, and since you were the only one who publicly claimed that he knew dts, you were really the only one he could have pmed. Although that pm didn't exist at all. | ||
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