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On October 11 2010 14:17 LSB wrote: I always die day1/night1 in rl mafia  . People see my smiling face and somehow just see a big targetBandwagon: the people who follow the accusation Say I accused you because you hanged out around a comic website. Suddnly two people accuse you too, those are bandwagoners Not necessarily, if those people accused you too for no reason at all then yes they are bandwagoners But if they pointed out a different reason to accuse you, they are not. | ||
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As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Veldril Unlimited Blade Works! | ||
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On October 11 2010 14:50 Lucktar wrote: Regarding Incognito's death: As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly. Body made of swords is the only thing I've found so far that seems to relate to this bit. This is a quote from archer from FSN. Archer had the power to make a reality marble which twists the surrounding to recreate his mind. In that reality marble, he can make any sword and as much swords as he desire hence it being called Unlimited Blade Works. It can be interpreted that "he could feel cold steel peirce his body from every direction" as having thousands of swords pierce his body. | ||
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On October 11 2010 15:06 orgolove wrote: Ok, I'm going to be maintaining and updating a spreadsheet of every person's vote and profile notes and other things (i.e. supporting each other in this thread etc, or whether active or not) Here's the link to access it. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&authkey=COn0gLcI Sounds like a neat idea ^.^ | ||
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On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote: Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting. Unless you have someone else in mind, then please enlighten us. Right now, it is the best lead we got. | ||
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On October 11 2010 16:37 Coagulation wrote: so if we lynch someone do we find out what role they are when they dead? If you read the start of the day phase, DoctorHelvetica the Jailkeeper is now dead BloodyC0bbler the Zombie is now dead Incognito the Librarian is now dead Qatol the Human is now dead Korynne the Nurse is now dead Meeple the Zombie is now dead | ||
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Also, there seems to be a lot of people trying to cause confusion by being extremely aggressive. For now, I will keep my vote on masq as I feel that that is what will give us more information. | ||
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On October 12 2010 11:37 CubEdIn wrote: So, back to the question at hand: 1. We kill Masq. - he was M/V then we know for sure if Veldril is M/V, we molest him too, end of story - he was not M/V, then Veldril was just being overly enthusiastic, or trying to stir stuff up, Veldril chances of survival: 50/50 2. We kill Veldril. - he was M/V then we know that Masq ---> MIGHT <--- also be M/V, we will prolly kill him too - he was not M/V, everyone is confused, Masq might survive later in the game. To me, it seems that I will get a more clear view of the game by killing Masq. Almost 24h in, still not changing my vote. Time for sleep. XoXo. I am basically of the same opinion as CubEdln. I think that right now, it would benefit the town more to go with Masq rather than Veldril. And note that I was the first to connect the fate/stay night reference.  (I'm a FSN fanboy) | ||
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I'm also guessing that we don't get to find out his role until the next day phase? | ||
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It seems that there are at least 2 ghost since there were only 4 kills. Looks like our KAWAAAIIII ghosts were able to save someone. Veldril is pretty much confirmed 99% Vampire. With 4 vampires dead and only 1 mafia dead, I would suggest that we save veldril for later. Since the win condition of mafia is to kill vampire, we can probably save a lynch for veldril, and I think that we should be looking for more of mafia but since we can't really differentiate between them unless DT checks, we still have better chances if we look for a new target to lynch. I haven't checked who the clues might refer to as it would take a bit of time looking through everyone's profile. I'll do it tomorrow after I sleep. I suggest that we look at people who voted but didn't post a lot since there is bound to be a red hiding among them trying to keep a low profile. | ||
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he could feel cold steel from every direction of his body As for the clues, here are my analysis so far: I don't think there was anything else in that NB clue except for ice. I could only find one thing related to ice. Maybe someone who has more time can find a subtle hint of something chilly. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Lucktar For RebirthLegend's death, it could be something to do with bathroom or some kind of bad smell, or the pinstripped fedora. I could only find one thing for bad smell. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kingjames01 Zombies have rotten decaying flesh which smells extremely bad. But honestly, I wouldn't put too much trust into lynching by clues as the clues point to multiple people. We got lucky with a painfully obvious clue. I think that as the game goes on though, if we can connect someone with at least 2 clues then there is a good chance that they might be red. | ||
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On October 12 2010 15:48 jaminz wrote: I forgot to do this, but here is a list of the players with zero posts as well: Therick 0 TheMunkey 0 Lexpar 0 AirbladeOrange 0 kenpachi 0 HeavOnEarth 0 kingjames01 0 Neos 0 grandmoose 0 Yogy 0 I striked out all the people who were modkilled or weren't given access to the forums yet to leave people who voted but did not post. Can someone update how many post people have? | ||
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On October 14 2010 18:44 Veldril wrote: For point 1-2, it just a possibilities. No one knows am I poisoned or protected or not. If I'm poison then only Vampires know, if I'm protected only ghost who protected me knows. You were definitely not protected as you didn't seem to know that people who were protected get pmed. On October 14 2010 13:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If someone is hit and survived I will PM them with that information. If a ghost successfully saves someone I will also PM them. It's just not public information. Also, why would the ghost protect you? Stop trying to defend yourself as you are just digging yourself a deeper grave. Just be happy that people are considering not killing you today and save you for some other day. Now to focus on the issue at hand. Among the inactive ones, I am really suspicious of kingjames and HeavOnEarth. Kingjames01 + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 05:10 kingjames01 wrote: I don't agree with the post you made in the Voting Thread. You seem to know something about Veldril and you're trying to bail him out. Is he going to be your Godfather/Count? Is that why you think he should be DT checked? With all of the posts that you two have made it seems very likely that you're trying to take control of the game. I think that you two are allied and that you're most likely Red and that you're trying to fool us all. You even just sent me a PM trying to fish for my role. Everyone, we don't have much time. Think about how Bill Murray has been pressuring us this whole game. Think about Veldril's shallow defence. Consider if they were Red and if their behaviour is consistent with that idea. We need to, as a town, come to a consensus and vote one of these two off. If one is Red, then the other will be. He really seems to want to kill Veldril or maybe just steer the vote away from Masq. HeavOnEarth on the otherhand only has 1 post and all that is is quoting BM and supporting him. I think that for now I'll vote HeavOnEarth. I am also considering voting on glurio as it would reveal BM's alignment and give us a lot of information instead of just speculating which side he is on, but I kind of feel sorry for him as we are condemning him for what BM did. | ||
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Since I'm not much of a clue analyzer an don't think they can be very reliable due to clues oftentimes being accidental or even a red herring, I'm going to focus on behavior analysis. CubEdIn is up first. I took a gist from his posts because a lot of them are in the same spirit. [QUOTE]On October 11 2010 14:57 CubEdIn wrote: [QUOTE]On October 11 2010 14:54 aztrorisk wrote: [quote]I think ShmotZ is a longer shot than Masq. Sure, it is suggestive, but Masq fits it a bit better. There are also a couple other people who have shadowy figures as their picture.[/quote] LOL, a pear indicates a pyscho?!?!? I been looking at other people profile and his is the only one that has a shadowy figure (without a sword and looks immune to bullets) and his picture looks like it can only strangle. + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2010 03:37 CubEdIn wrote: ^ Interesting points off NB. I also noticed that jodogohoo changed votes constantly, was wondering why that is, I didn't really think about the fact that it's ok to go with the flow if you know who NOT to vote for, but if that's the case, it means that everyone he voted for are not from his 'family' (assuming he's either M or V), which brings us back to square one, sort-of. It could also mean that, if all NB saying proves to be true, if Veldril and Masq are in the same team, then jodogohoo is on the other (example: if vel and masq are mafia, jodogohoo is vamp). Basically, as time progresses, I think I'll change my vote not to who I think is more likely to be Mafia or Vampire, but to whom seems to "drag us down" the most. Someone who constantly changes his mind with every few posts may not be so helpful later on. ...I'm still not changing my vote though, not yet. Seems to be agreeing with NB. If he's red, he's likely to be mafia rather than vampire. Calls out jodogohoo for consistently changing his opinion and calls this negatory to the town, which is true. Confusion is always bad. I'm not too sure about the whole voting for who's dragging us down the most instead of Mafia or Vampire though. I am highly suspicious of you after this post. You seem to be nitpicking at Cube's post, but leaving out post which contradicts what you are trying to convey to everyone. He seems to have left out this post purposely. + Show Spoiler + Bold Italic Underline Add image Add link Add spoiler tag Add quote tag Wiki-ize TLPD-ize TSLD-ize un-TLPD-ize Smilies & BBCode Add Poll Upload Image On October 13 2010 07:08 CubEdIn wrote: Yes, I thought about that, but it's a bit of a long shot. I don't think you'll convince many people to vote for Masq on day 2 if Veldril is green. Especially if he's Count/GF and he fakes his role for detective, he might live for the rest of the game. Instead, given Veldril's posts, he would still be suspected even if Masq turns out to be green. More so than vice-versa. My 2 cents. + Show Spoiler + Calls out aztro for being detrimental to town by him asking for protection despite not being very useful to town. This post solidifies CubE as being a townie to me. I really don't see why Veldril would have to be a vamp too just because Masq is one when if it turns out Masq isn't one he's just an overzealous townie? This logic seems very backwards to me. Same goes for the case if he kills Veldril. Using the same logic, Veldril would not vehemently support someone unless he was absolutely sure of his alignment, so Masq would be criminalized by a possible vamp flip as well. Seems very passionate about getting Masq offed. In general mafia games with just one team, this is generally a very scummish thing to say as you already know he won't be mafia, so you have your excuse ready. In this game with three teams however it doesn't ring true as much, and this makes me more hesitant to call CubE out on just this. Pushed his lynch of Masq really hard in day one, but now he's questioning a Veldril lynch after Masq turned up red even though he said he wanted to immediately after day 1? This is very suspicious to me and the most criminalizing post I have found of CubE. Continues to want to wait for the day post which to me is not a good idea since you can get a ton of good behavior analysis done in the night and you may be dead before the next day. Could just be a newbie mistake though. This is just drawing straws. BM PMs everyone during every game to try and get as much info out like a lunatic, which is something he does in every game. For BM, this is nothing out of the ordinary and I wouldn't see it as a scum tell. Definitely far from enough to say 90% M/V. More nitpicking and drawing at straws here just to make it seem likely that Cubedln is likely to be a mafia and then states that he is most likely town to make it seem like he's not really incriminating Cubedln. I don't really get why he's going after Cubedln when there are a lot more suspicious people and his reasoning seems very strange to say the least. | ||
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On October 15 2010 00:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Since I'm not much of a clue analyzer an don't think they can be very reliable due to clues oftentimes being accidental or even a red herring, I'm going to focus on behavior analysis. CubEdIn is up first. I took a gist from his posts because a lot of them are in the same spirit. Seems to be agreeing with NB. If he's red, he's likely to be mafia rather than vampire. Calls out jodogohoo for consistently changing his opinion and calls this negatory to the town, which is true. Confusion is always bad. I'm not too sure about the whole voting for who's dragging us down the most instead of Mafia or Vampire though. I am highly suspicious of you after this post. You seem to be nitpicking at Cube's post, but leaving out post which contradicts what you are trying to convey to everyone. He seems to have left out this post purposely. On October 13 2010 07:08 CubEdIn wrote: Yes, I thought about that, but it's a bit of a long shot. I don't think you'll convince many people to vote for Masq on day 2 if Veldril is green. Especially if he's Count/GF and he fakes his role for detective, he might live for the rest of the game. Instead, given Veldril's posts, he would still be suspected even if Masq turns out to be green. More so than vice-versa. My 2 cents. + Show Spoiler + Calls out aztro for being detrimental to town by him asking for protection despite not being very useful to town. This post solidifies CubE as being a townie to me. I really don't see why Veldril would have to be a vamp too just because Masq is one when if it turns out Masq isn't one he's just an overzealous townie? This logic seems very backwards to me. Same goes for the case if he kills Veldril. Using the same logic, Veldril would not vehemently support someone unless he was absolutely sure of his alignment, so Masq would be criminalized by a possible vamp flip as well. Seems very passionate about getting Masq offed. In general mafia games with just one team, this is generally a very scummish thing to say as you already know he won't be mafia, so you have your excuse ready. In this game with three teams however it doesn't ring true as much, and this makes me more hesitant to call CubE out on just this. Pushed his lynch of Masq really hard in day one, but now he's questioning a Veldril lynch after Masq turned up red even though he said he wanted to immediately after day 1? This is very suspicious to me and the most criminalizing post I have found of CubE. Continues to want to wait for the day post which to me is not a good idea since you can get a ton of good behavior analysis done in the night and you may be dead before the next day. Could just be a newbie mistake though. This is just drawing straws. BM PMs everyone during every game to try and get as much info out like a lunatic, which is something he does in every game. For BM, this is nothing out of the ordinary and I wouldn't see it as a scum tell. Definitely far from enough to say 90% M/V. More nitpicking and drawing at straws here just to make it seem likely that Cubedln is likely to be a mafia and then states that he is most likely town to make it seem like he's not really incriminating Cubedln. I don't really get why he's going after Cubedln when there are a lot more suspicious people and his reasoning seems very strange to say the least. | ||
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On October 15 2010 03:36 KhrisKruel wrote: Post counts are only important for identifying who isn't posting and is lurking. Top poster means nothing. It only identifies play styles, not indicative of scum or town. Yeah that was why I wanted to know post counts. Mostly to know who is lurking. Or those who are trying to keep posting to a minimum as to not give away any information. | ||
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