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On August 31 2010 05:45 citi.zen wrote:
Wait, Opz, I change my answer! Let's track LSB instead. The PoD can't "travel" at night so tracking LSB should be effective, unless he lied and picked traitor.
This also means we should CV Southrawarea.
Medic - protect Opz!
truth, this sounds legit, Ill watch in case of traitor shenanigans 
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On August 31 2010 05:45 citi.zen wrote:
Wait, Opz, I change my answer! Let's track LSB instead. The PoD can't "travel" at night so tracking LSB should be effective, unless he lied and picked traitor.
This also means we should CV Southrawarea.
Medic - protect Opz!
I don't see how this is anyway more effective than tracking South and killing LSB. Except in our plan if LSB happens to be mafia, we manage to kill him(since he is an extremely dangerous role in the hands of mafia.)
So my way is the same, with an added bonus. Stick with tracking South.
Sudden change, Citizen. Very interesting one too. Hiding something?
*Insert more random baseless suspicion*
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On August 31 2010 06:00 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 05:45 citi.zen wrote:
Wait, Opz, I change my answer! Let's track LSB instead. The PoD can't "travel" at night so tracking LSB should be effective, unless he lied and picked traitor.
This also means we should CV Southrawarea.
Medic - protect Opz! I don't see how this is anyway more effective than tracking South and killing LSB. Except in our plan if LSB happens to be mafia, we manage to kill him(since he is an extremely dangerous role in the hands of mafia.) So my way is the same, with an added bonus. Stick with tracking South. Sudden change, Citizen. Very interesting one too. Hiding something? *Insert more random baseless suspicion*
Actually there is a difference: if guilty, South would not be traitor but real mafia making a false claim; LSB would be the traitor. This means South could be the vengeful player making a fake claim and not caring too much if he gets lynched, while LSB could not be vengeful.
So out of the two I think South is better to CV and LSB better to lynch, if we see him visit anyone.
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On August 31 2010 06:08 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 06:00 Pandain wrote:On August 31 2010 05:45 citi.zen wrote:
Wait, Opz, I change my answer! Let's track LSB instead. The PoD can't "travel" at night so tracking LSB should be effective, unless he lied and picked traitor.
This also means we should CV Southrawarea.
Medic - protect Opz! I don't see how this is anyway more effective than tracking South and killing LSB. Except in our plan if LSB happens to be mafia, we manage to kill him(since he is an extremely dangerous role in the hands of mafia.) So my way is the same, with an added bonus. Stick with tracking South. Sudden change, Citizen. Very interesting one too. Hiding something? *Insert more random baseless suspicion* Actually there is a difference: if guilty, South would not be traitor but real mafia making a false claim; LSB would be the traitor. This means South could be the vengeful player making a fake claim and not caring too much if he gets lynched, while LSB could not be vengeful. So out of the two I think South is better to CV and LSB better to lynch, if we see him visit anyone.
If south is guilty means there is no traitor. And we lost Prince of darkness, which was a bad role anyway. Are you saying we won't be able to lynch south that day because he may be VP?
Cause if so I can see your point, but am still uncertain as to whether the risk of LSB being mafia(and thus having his role be used) is enough to outweigh this. I mean, I think the safer thing to do would be to do my plan, than just lynch based on scum-hunting, and than have the CV kill SR so we won't have to worry about VP.
But did I get your argument right?
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Yes - if SR is mafia he also has a role, possibly Vengeful player, making him harder to lynch. LSB as traitor, on the other hand, is easier to lynch.
So yeah, my suggestion is your plan but switching their names around.
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On August 31 2010 06:32 citi.zen wrote:
Yes - if SR is mafia he also has a role, possibly Vengeful player, making him harder to lynch. LSB as traitor, on the other hand, is easier to lynch.
So yeah, my suggestion is your plan but switching their names around.
Yeah, either are fine by me, but my vote would still be on LSB. Medics/Martyr should be on Opz or Fishball/ or if not them, myself, citizen or Bum.
There's a chance Rastaban might be killed tonight, since if he's town aligned he gives us a double lynch every cycle. If he isn't eventually killed by mafia(which would be foolish of mafia) we should lynch him.
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Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Okay so as of right now here's the plan.
Tracker tracks LSB, watcher watches south.
CV kills South
Medic(s?) protect Fishball. I protect Fishball as well.
Unless anyone has any more comments on this, everyone must follow this.
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EBWOP: Watcher watches LSB.
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Either way, it confirms one (traitor monitoring) and kills the other. PoD is alot less detrimental, since we have a good handful of confirmed blues and then some, SK is dead, and we are in control of CV til rasta does something scummy. Using PoD would give reds 2 hits if CV town, and 4 if hes scum, and then it would give us a scum. Then we have alot of info. But still better to have him not used at all.
I dont really see a HUGE advantage on either side, but south seems more likely to be the traitor/mafia (though if LSB picks traitor, even if he could have picked PoD, it isnt any different from south's position). Anyway it swings > town favored.
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Radfield, you're better scum hunter than me.
Martyr Fishballs, Medic protect citizen/Radfield/Me/Fishball
I don't care which.
FIshball's role>>Me
GOOD CALL CITIZEN
CV SR
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On August 31 2010 08:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Radfield, you're better scum hunter than me.
Martyr Fishballs, Medic protect citizen/Radfield/Me/Fishball
I don't care which.
FIshball's role>>Me
GOOD CALL CITIZEN
CV SR
Why CItizen?
If anything it should go between you and fishball, and maybe just maybe radfield.
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On August 31 2010 01:15 bumatlarge wrote:Rofl at all these ego trips Ive got nothing better planned so ill follow up on that pandian. Indeed JeeJee seems the last person we can hope to be joat, and while its an important role, it isnt our last hope. We already have a bunch of blues running around, we just need to protect them. There is a good chance that those middle people are scum/defensive roles, so I doubt we will see a hit on them. If joat is here, he should probably protect a claimed blue tonight. In fact joat should protect fishball, and a doc should protect opz, unless we plan on hitting one. I feel like I get less priority then the other 2. So if you wanna take a chance, a doc can protect me Again, darth and divine set off bells for me. Fish opz and rad seem like bickering blues trying to get info, but grabbing the wrong roles is fishy.
can you tell me why im setting off bells for you, instead of just throwing around random suspicion. You can't have some cookie cutter mold of what a mafia player is supposed to be like, every person is different and does different things for different reasons.
I feel like im being too quiet but i really have nothing to contribute, i totally agree with who you have chosen for the following actions bar something crazy happening. I'm glad at least darth and radfield have an accurate read on me.
But this could naturally be because one of them has too much information! It's hard to get motivated to look into people too heavily when it's practically already decided on who is to die. At least for now that is.
too much drama here, but it does certainly set off some bells of mine. Drama seems to lead to one of the dramees being on the wrong side, at least most of the time
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Actually now that I think about it, we need to know theres a medic on fishball. Because if not the mafia can just roleblock me and hit him. If he is town, then we just lost an extremely valuable asset.
Me thinks medics should protect Fishball. But at the same time this leaves Opz and Radfield open, both valuable players(whether for experience or in game events.)
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Night ends in 1 hour, 20 minutes!
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On August 31 2010 08:31 Pandain wrote:
Actually now that I think about it, we need to know theres a medic on fishball. Because if not the mafia can just roleblock me and hit him. If he is town, then we just lost an extremely valuable asset.
Me thinks medics should protect Fishball. But at the same time this leaves Opz and Radfield open, both valuable players(whether for experience or in game events.)
i think it's safe to assume there is no roleblocker since no one has claimed to have been roleblocked? Or did i some how miss something like that..
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On August 31 2010 08:39 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 08:31 Pandain wrote:
Actually now that I think about it, we need to know theres a medic on fishball. Because if not the mafia can just roleblock me and hit him. If he is town, then we just lost an extremely valuable asset.
Me thinks medics should protect Fishball. But at the same time this leaves Opz and Radfield open, both valuable players(whether for experience or in game events.) i think it's safe to assume there is no roleblocker since no one has claimed to have been roleblocked? Or did i some how miss something like that..
Yeah I'm starting to think there may be no roleblocker. Regardless, by tonight we will know. I wasn't sure today because if mafia had roleblocked the traitor, then of course the traitor wouldn't announce he had been roleblocked.
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so why am i on rad's/pandain's scumlist again?
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If LSB isn't Mafia, nor the traitor, tracking him would do nothing. Also, seems like everyone is leaving chaoser out of the equation. What if we hit SR and he flips Vanilla Townie, and tracking LSB gave us nothing? That leaves us with chaoser obviously, but I'm just saying.
Either way, this issue most likely won't be resolved tonight no matter how we switch our actions among these three, unless the person we CV is exactly the Traitor/Mafia, or the person we track is the Mafia. I'm fine with anyone of them being picked.
On August 31 2010 06:43 Radfield wrote:
If he isn't eventually killed by mafia(which would be foolish of mafia) we should lynch him.
The way I see it, Mafia most likely will not hit the CV, unless the CV is about to hit one of their own. Even if the Town uses the CV to hit one of their own, they might just let it slip by. Think about it, it would be very difficult for the Mafia to win with 1 KP against 10+ Pro-Town players left in the game. As long as the Town is able to choose the right targets, then we should be good.
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On August 31 2010 09:01 Fishball wrote:If LSB isn't Mafia, nor the traitor, tracking him would do nothing. Also, seems like everyone is leaving chaoser out of the equation. What if we hit SR and he flips Vanilla Townie, and tracking LSB gave us nothing? That leaves us with chaoser obviously, but I'm just saying. Either way, this issue most likely won't be resolved tonight no matter how we switch our actions among these three, unless the person we CV is exactly the Traitor/Mafia, or the person we track is the Mafia. I'm fine with anyone of them being picked. Show nested quote +On August 31 2010 06:43 Radfield wrote:
If he isn't eventually killed by mafia(which would be foolish of mafia) we should lynch him. The way I see it, Mafia most likely will not hit the CV, unless the CV is about to hit one of their own. Even if the Town uses the CV to hit one of their own, they might just let it slip by. Think about it, it would be very difficult for the Mafia to win with 1 KP against 10+ Pro-Town players left in the game. As long as the Town is able to choose the right targets, then we should be good.
Good post, and I've thought about it as well. In the new scenario in which we kill south and get nothing from LSB, then we know LSB isn't traitor and wasn't recruited that night. Then we keep having the watcher watch LSB, while we track Chaoser. Watcher will be able to tell if LSB was recruited or not.
Meanwhile, we can get chaoser to confirm himself eventually(via bad santa list.)
At the very least, we will be able to stop them from getting an additional scum.
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