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On August 07 2010 11:58 SouthRawrea wrote:
Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched.
It'll be easy to see if Pyrr is ninja or not based on whether he dies or not. If he was right about the number, ninjas will kill him. If he lives, than he's wrong. From there we can also speculate about whether there would be 2 or 4 ninjas. I'm thinkin 4 since I doubt flamwheel would only have 2 ninjas. Would seem lame :/
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On August 07 2010 11:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:55 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy the thing is i think pyrr wants to push for bm's lynch and if he's our target for this then he cant really do that. which is understandable so it'd be perfectly reasonable to switch it to someone who we know we dont really want to lynch on day 1. Because while i doubt bm is going to get lynched it'd still be nice to leave him open to the possibility i mean we could like do it on someone like me or pandain, or uh i dunno you? someone who probably would never get GF because then we KNOW that person isnt mafia because the only way a tracked person isnt mafia is if they are the GF because even if you track a mafia member and they hit a medic or something "If you track Mafia, then you will be led to the scene of the first target on the Mafia hitlist." you're still led to a scene so you know exactly what happened and what the person you are tracking is this all depends on the fact that mafia havent already chosen their gf and if there is any cut off for doing so, other wise bm is as good as anyone else really unless we really want him to die Rules say mafia don't have to decide GF until end of day 1. I think we should wait until Day 1 ends and choose a target right at the start of Night 1, so blue roles have time to see and follow the plan. And we should just choose one of the inactive peeps at random, since the chance of them being GF is awful low. A tracker looking at a low-level player will probably see them go after someone on the hitlist if they are mafia since such a player would probably not be GF. This seems a much more safe use of Pandain's plan than BM.
If he can't be tracked, than we go after vets and we get a GF. Everyone will mass roleclaim to watcher and tracker and from there we can find out who's who hopefully.
Also, I think in nearly every one of my scenarios we either get
1. Two confirmed reds
2. One confirmed
3. Hidden GF in vets
Either way, we will need a double lynch. I am voting for double lynch and urge others to do so.
In which case
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On August 07 2010 12:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:03 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:55 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
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Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy the thing is i think pyrr wants to push for bm's lynch and if he's our target for this then he cant really do that. which is understandable so it'd be perfectly reasonable to switch it to someone who we know we dont really want to lynch on day 1. Because while i doubt bm is going to get lynched it'd still be nice to leave him open to the possibility i mean we could like do it on someone like me or pandain, or uh i dunno you? someone who probably would never get GF because then we KNOW that person isnt mafia because the only way a tracked person isnt mafia is if they are the GF because even if you track a mafia member and they hit a medic or something "If you track Mafia, then you will be led to the scene of the first target on the Mafia hitlist." you're still led to a scene so you know exactly what happened and what the person you are tracking is this all depends on the fact that mafia havent already chosen their gf and if there is any cut off for doing so, other wise bm is as good as anyone else really unless we really want him to die Rules say mafia don't have to decide GF until end of day 1. I think we should wait until Day 1 ends and choose a target right at the start of Night 1, so blue roles have time to see and follow the plan. And we should just choose one of the inactive peeps at random, since the chance of them being GF is awful low. A tracker looking at a low-level player will probably see them go after someone on the hitlist if they are mafia since such a player would probably not be GF. This seems a much more safe use of Pandain's plan than BM. If he can't be tracked, than we go after vets and we get a GF. Everyone will mass roleclaim to watcher and tracker and from there we can find out who's who hopefully. Also, I think in nearly every one of my scenarios we either get 1. Two confirmed reds 2. One confirmed 3. Hidden GF in vets Either way, we will need a double lynch. I am voting for double lynch and urge others to do so. In which case Everyone can claim to watcher and tracker if the plan goes well regardless of whether or not BM is involved. Choosing someone high-profile like BM just makes it more likely that it will get fucked with. If BM is GF, Your plan is to kill off everyone that claims vet, after forcing all vets to claim? Whether BM is GF or real vet that plan sucks. I'll vote double lynch tomorrow if BM flips red. Otherwise I don't know who to go after and I don't think we will tomorrow. Day 2 double lynch is usually bad for town - I don't think this game is different. If I knew BM would be lynched today I'd vote double lynch but this is still up in the air.
Hmmm... hunting down the vets will be risky I agree.
At the same time, once we kill the godfather, things will become much easier for us.
I need to think about this. I've been blind to certain aspects and must think and reflect.
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On August 07 2010 12:10 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:03 LSB wrote:On August 07 2010 11:52 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:
vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked? agreed, then it reverts back to its "no mafia interference plan" where we have two confirmed blues. So perhaps we should have in that scenario the watcher and tracker come out in open. Than everyone RC(since they are clean.) Than we can hunt down the vets. Would be worth it if we get a GF. Very worth it. In addition, in the HIGHLY unlikely scenario that he IS GF, than he will still get caught as stated above. Okay I agree with Pandain now. Here's the statistical breakdown. Probability that BM is Godfather/Ninja. I'm assuming 3 ninja's and Pyrr is a Ninja 27/30= 90% So 90% is the initial success rate. But what if more than one person visits BM? Let's say 2 people visits BM It could be 2 Stalkers, 1 Stalker and 1 Innocent Stalker, 1 Stalker and a random Mafia person. This could be trouble, the random Mafia person could attempt to vouch for BM. But the watcher can't just Post everyone who visited BM, because we could then just lose 2 stalker, the watchers, and BM. 4 people dead The probability of an Innocent stalker visiting BM is 28/29=96.55% Well, I'm not ninja. There could be 7 ninjas for all we know. Probability of BM becoming godfather tonight if he doesn't get lynched and is mafia is 100% and only 23/30 players are not mafia.
Once again, he is not Ninja. I can guarantee you that. He claimed blue, asked everyone to pm him, has been so active. That's just asking for trouble and would ruin a Ninja.
He is either blue or red. If he is red he will be GF as Pyrr has said.
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On August 07 2010 12:11 SouthRawrea wrote:
Question: What if there are more than 1 trackers/watchers?
Than I kill Flamewheel
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On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote:
Before I go to sleep.
What about this?
Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM.
The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim.
If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose.
After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim
So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked?
agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is.
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On August 07 2010 12:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote:On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote:
Before I go to sleep.
What about this?
Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM.
The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim.
If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose.
After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim
So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? The mafia can't watch, so there will be blues that don't get PMd from a mafia trying to fake watcher. The mafia fake-watcher may also end up PMing greens, there by giving themselves away.
true true. Still, for "vigilante's" to visit him they would have to shoot him, and even if the said medics did protect him it still means they lose their KP.
So they should NOT.
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On August 07 2010 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:18 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote:On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote:
Before I go to sleep.
What about this?
Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM.
The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim.
If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose.
After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim
So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. If what person accidentally sends what to a mafia? We can easily pick out a fake watcher with this plan because the only way to fake watcher will be to CORRECTLY GUESS 100% OF THE VISITING BLUES.
So some adaptions to this plan:
People who get pmed from watcher will wait 12-24 hours to see if a townie will claim he got a pm from said person before the blues will respond
vigis will NOT visit said person(lol)
This plan does seem pretty good...
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On August 07 2010 12:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
ah wtf there are nosy neighbors. didn't even fucking see that till now.
1/30 chance, negligible.
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On August 07 2010 12:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:25 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 12:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
ah wtf there are nosy neighbors. didn't even fucking see that till now. 1/30 chance, negligible. We don't know how many there are do we?
okay, in which case they will respond" Huh... what the fadoodle you talkin' bout son." Than DTS can check them and see if they are town. Problem solved.
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On August 07 2010 12:33 SouthRawrea wrote:
Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan.
GF can't visit someone.
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On August 07 2010 12:40 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 12:24 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 12:18 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote:On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote:
Before I go to sleep.
What about this?
Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM.
The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim.
If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose.
After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim
So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. If what person accidentally sends what to a mafia? We can easily pick out a fake watcher with this plan because the only way to fake watcher will be to CORRECTLY GUESS 100% OF THE VISITING BLUES. So some adaptions to this plan: People who get pmed from watcher will wait 12-24 hours to see if a townie will claim he got a pm from said person before the blues will respond vigis will NOT visit said person(lol) This plan does seem pretty good... Current Version of LSB PlanWe pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too. If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). but how do we set up a real circle when the role blocker gets in there
Perhaps we could do a combination of my plan and LSB's plan. Thus making two circles and two reds caught? Lowering KP to 2.
We can get DT's to check people who claim blues when theres more than 1, especially more than 2. This is interesting though, since we don't know how many of each role there is. good catch.
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On August 07 2010 12:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:35 Divinek wrote:
it's still quite unlikely a noisy neighbour is going to visit bm that night
we can easily just get every townie that gets a pm from the 'watcher' to say he did and if it's more than say 1 or 2 , two would easily be even pushing it, then all the blues can know the watcher is a bullshitter.
and besides like said the mafia would have to for sure hit every blue on that list accurately and there's just no way mafia could come even close to doing this
because all the people that visit him KNOW they did it Yeah. There are a few fake claim opportunities I listed to watch out for, but I find this to be the best plan yet. Don't think we should use BM, though. It would probably be best to pick someone we are most sure is not a ninja, or someone from the PL Finals list.
BM is NOT a ninja. I can guarantee you that 99.99%. His play has been WAY too active, too risky, too lynch-inducing to be a a ninja.
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On August 07 2010 12:47 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 12:44 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 12:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 12:35 Divinek wrote:
it's still quite unlikely a noisy neighbour is going to visit bm that night
we can easily just get every townie that gets a pm from the 'watcher' to say he did and if it's more than say 1 or 2 , two would easily be even pushing it, then all the blues can know the watcher is a bullshitter.
and besides like said the mafia would have to for sure hit every blue on that list accurately and there's just no way mafia could come even close to doing this
because all the people that visit him KNOW they did it Yeah. There are a few fake claim opportunities I listed to watch out for, but I find this to be the best plan yet. Don't think we should use BM, though. It would probably be best to pick someone we are most sure is not a ninja, or someone from the PL Finals list. BM is NOT a ninja. I can guarantee you that 99.99%. His play has been WAY too active, too risky, too lynch-inducing to be a a ninja. Yeah, I can guarantee you 99.99% he's red and so I'd rather just see him go today *shrug*. Can't be too lynch-inducing when he's already out of the noose thanks to SouthRawrea's change (not necessarily fosing SR btw).
One of the main reasons he's not getting lynched is the point he could be a blue and thus contribute greatly to my plan. Anyway, I'm really starting to think we should have a combination of our two plans(mine and LSB's) since that would force
1) Many mafia to come out and combat these growing circles
As long as allow us to
1)Grow 2 circles
2) Catch a potential GF
3)Get more infomation.
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On August 07 2010 12:51 bumatlarge wrote:
Ok ignore the fact that i stated pandains plan was in action 10 pages before he brought it up.
I adapted mine from BM's plan where he said both watcher and tracker can RC to him. Than I said what if they just both track an anonymous person.
Don't see what it would mean anyway :/
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We do my plan, regardless of whether BM turns GF we can
1) force out a special red
2) get watcher with contact in blue.
I think I've detailed how to do that before. Either way, by making them do BM we FORCE him to be GF, therefore FORCING him to be Vet, therefore setting up for the second plan
Since vet cannot visit someone, he cannot try to hide with the second thing.Watcher will knokw identify of special red, so even if we mislynch first than we can find out a second red. Any blue role with only 1 guy will be safe. Has there ever been a case where there hasn't been at least one of a blue role? The person will probably fake DT claim just in the scenario there's only one DT.
If you haven't been able to tell, I'm just rambling. Please expand on all this and make it better. I'm listing my thoughts out loud so we can get a better idea.
Please, expand on my thoughts.
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How bout, with my plan, we add a DT checking BM. IF he turns out Vet, and DT can PM watcher, than we lynch him, because it's hella unlikely that he just HAPPENS to be those vets. Also, watcher can also ask for other vets to PM him counterclaiming just in case.
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On August 07 2010 13:20 Divinek wrote:Heyy Pyrr! Pandain! since you're among the two dudes actually reading the thread whaddya think? it's an UPDATE on my larjarse + Show Spoiler +hey lets look at larjarse's latest posts! On August 07 2010 01:54 larjarse wrote:
TBH rastaban is also looking quite suspicious. He is trying to do so much planning as a townie. I WANT THE MAN DEAD retarded spam On August 07 2010 02:11 larjarse wrote:
Valid point, rastaban. I am just G checking you to get some text.. As you can see, I haven't change my vote. retarded spam On August 07 2010 01:50 larjarse wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote:I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz  LOLing that noone said anything about this. And once he proclaimed that he is a townie, he was voted by rastaban and chaoser. Suspiciousssoo blah blah blah it's been said before On August 06 2010 15:04 larjarse wrote:
Can you stop talking about previous games? It kind of ruins the fun. spammmmm On August 06 2010 14:57 larjarse wrote:
I would say BillMurray's concern about not being randomly voted to be killed justifies that he probably isn't a Townie. what the fuck does this even mean? lol it loosk like a reason without a reason On August 06 2010 14:44 larjarse wrote:
BTW this leaves BillMurray and divinek tied at 3 votes each. blah blah we can all read dude ok you're getting my vote until you actually fucking post some content On August 07 2010 12:00 larjarse wrote:Divinek saying I spam spam spam on pg 23: This is my first game. You also excluded my posts that had content. So vote me if you please and calm down your e rage, bro. I voted BM becauese I instinctively feel like he's up to no good. If he's actually good, then oh well, it was a 1/6 chance anyways and it's only the first day. Many can sit here and theroize why people posted what and everthing, but you probably aren't going to know who anyone is today. Pyrrhuloxia United States. August 07 2010 10:12. I think we should be suspicious of people who defend others so early.. I agree! Divinek again targeting me on pg 25: speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far 1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!! Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote:
also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low
(at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get)
so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think And the roleblocker/framer can change the entire story. Divinek seems sure that BM is going to be watched tonight and is posting his expected results to further defend BM and thus fuck over the town if he is actually scum. Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:46 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Maybe your plan isn't useless in the previous mentioned situations; it would be more accurate to say that it doesn't get any better by using BM and it could get much worse by using BM. i agree id much rather lynch him or one of the inactives and use the watcher/tracker thing on someone else So lets lynch him, and see what happens. Reading more bickering yadda yadda.. Okay lets just lynch BM and see what happens. Okey? Ok. Then maybe DivineK. since he posted a big post ill summarize my feelings of what he said here 1)he said i neglected his content posts, i quoted ALL of his posts (well okay not all i skipped two at the start that were one liners of stupid spam that everyone was doing at the time since the game JUST started so i figured they just fit in so they didnt count, but i assure you they are spam!), so he's lying LoL lets get to that later though 2) he says something we have already discussed at lenght long after that post was made, so his post is pointless rehashing of what we've covered 3) He really wants to lynch bm just to see what happens? Thanks for not helping town! Not, you look reaaaaaaaaaaaaaal bad buddy i dare someone to say he's been useful to town in anyway so far, can someone give me a reason not to vote for him? other people should read it too but i just wanted their attention extra special
Think he's just new/doesn't know how to play. If he's mafia, I would think he would be getting coached and listening to what to say. Unless he's been on other mafia and is frequent, I'm not really going to look heavily into him as of now. His posts, while lacking content, are just typical of a new player(like myself  ) and not mafia-esque.
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On August 07 2010 17:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 16:53 flamewheel wrote:On August 07 2010 13:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 13:39 larjarse wrote:
Divinek, I have PMed flamewheel several times with questions so callate la voca. Yeah flamewheel has been on MSN all night but still hasn't answered my question about whether a watcher can see a tracker attempting to track a ninja. ? Uhhh I have no logs on my MSN today. If Watcher is watching ninja he/she sees nothing. Wellllll that was unexpected and makes our plans potentially harder.
Doesn't matter, BM's not ninja. And as long as we stick with BM, we will have a non ninja, a potential blue, and a potential GF. I say we get watcher to watch him, than get dt to check him. If he's vet, we lynch him. If he's not, we go with your plan. That sounds reasonable to me.
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On August 07 2010 17:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Dude, Bill Murray. I underestimated you, man. Well, my biggest fuck up was thinking I could lynch you on day 1. I should have realized town will never try to lynch a mafia on day 1 because they'd rather go after townies that are goofing a bit or don't know what the hell they are doing. You're so fucking obvious and no one gives a shit. I'm so depressed over this. 
If we get DT to check him, than if he's not vet tracker can tell whether he's mafia or not. Because the only blue role that cannot be tracked is vet, therefore if he's not vet, we can trust him. If he's vet, than we lynch him because he's too dangerous.
In addition, if he's not vet, we go ahead with your plan as well. Well maybe... still. I think the DT checking him is a nice addition.
Thoughts?
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