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love1another
United States1844 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
i dont think the framer would come up to a watcher but im not sure | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:02 love1another wrote: Damn it, I'm not a lurker. I'm in Shanghai so my hours are completely different from you guys. That doesn't make me a mafia! your hours have nothing to do with the fact you havent posted anything of substance | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:02 chaoser wrote: Mafia wouldn't even dare hit the person we decide to watch, that's an easy mafia found right there. Wow lol quoting myself to get to top of new page | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:02 Divinek wrote: yeah that sounds fine, it's a good way to clear someone as well. Since they will find each other, and both of the meds can protect BM and the DT can investigate him cant all blues with abilities like this find each other simply by all going to one player while a watcher/tracker is there? Hmm so some possible probs - what if BM is mafia and first mafia hit hits a protted person so they don't die? Or hits a vet? Survivor of hit will have to claim in this scenario. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:02 chaoser wrote: Mafia wouldn't even dare hit the person we decide to watch, that's an easy mafia found right there. Wow lol Well, you'd get a name, right? Along with the name of the tracker. So basically, we've got two names, and a player who can't get these names to the town without exposing themselves and their role. AND THEN the town needs to pick the mafia. It's 50/50 and basically we might lynch the tracker. At any rate, the tracker is exposed. So.... we expose the tracker and the watcher to kill one mafia, over one or two days? Pandain, we discussed this, I don't see how you've been able to address this issue of your plan. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Hmm so some possible probs - what if BM is mafia and first mafia hit hits a protted person so they don't die? Or hits a vet? Survivor of hit will have to claim in this scenario. yeah i dont believe he is the crux of this plan but that is an important thing to note before clearing him certainly so what are peoples thoughts about avoiding the roleblocker infiltrating the circle? because obviously the watcher cant just hand out a list of the people who visited say bm, to each other, because then the role blocker would get a list of almost certainly all blues right i dont know if im confused about how the roles work but there's no guaranteed way to know any of the people visiting bm wont be the role blocker as the watchers the only person who is going to have all of this info right? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:08 Divinek wrote: yeah i dont believe he is the crux of this plan but that is an important thing to note before clearing him certainly so what are peoples thoughts about avoiding the roleblocker infiltrating the circle? because obviously the watcher cant just hand out a list of the people who visited say bm, to each other, because then the role blocker would get a list of almost certainly all blues right i dont know if im confused about how the roles work but there's no guaranteed way to know any of the people visiting bm wont be the role blocker as the watchers the only person who is going to have all of this info right? Tracker will know whether BM is innocent. Watcher will know who visited. Watcher reveals both of who visited(tracker and roleblocker) BM is innocent: We still have a circle of blues, good for us. BM is mafia: Two red down(roleblocker and him). Lowers kp to 2. Much more managable. Even better if BM is special red as well. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 07 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote: Pandain's 1st Refinement of his plan: So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts......... Watccher and tracker visit BM Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia. If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia. Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim? If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh? Thoughts? Okay here's how I see the plan. The Watcher is the 'medic' making sure that BM does not get hit. Also he's there to find who the tracker is. The tracker is there to make sure BM is not mafia. Main problem, what if BM is the Godfather? he can't be tracked. Probability low, but with people screaming "BM is Godfather!" I'd pick someone else. Second problem, what if the mafia sends a framer to BM? Well, we lynch both the tracker and the framer. VERY good for us. The framer could cause lots of problems Offshoot of second problem. What if the Innocent Stalker visits BM? We lynch both, and we lose an Innocent stalker and the Tracker Curve Balls: I'll think more on this situation. But Pandain, it's better than anything I can think of myself. Assuming totally random odds, and also only 1 innocent stalker, there is a 93.44% chance of succeeding. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:14 Pandain wrote: Tracker will know whether BM is innocent. Watcher will know who visited. Watcher reveals both of who visited(tracker and roleblocker) BM is innocent: We still have a circle of blues, good for us. BM is mafia: Two red down(roleblocker and him). Lowers kp to 2. Much more managable. Even better if BM is special red as well. how does that net us a circle of blues. BM's innocence is not guaranteed unless 3 mafia kp go through and surely now they wont let that happen. As for the blues we have to lynch one of the people the watcher sees if more than one visits to confirm who the tracker is and by that point he's dead We can use the bus driver to keep bm alive though cause then the watcher and tracker will see the same person, though it wont clear bm. But if we dont use the bus driver then bm is probably gonna die soo yeah | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:15 LSB wrote: Okay here's how I see the plan. The Watcher is the 'medic' making sure that BM does not get hit. Also he's there to find who the tracker is. The tracker is there to make sure BM is not mafia. Main problem, what if BM is the Godfather? he can't be tracked. Probability low, but with people screaming "BM is Godfather!" I'd pick someone else. Second problem, what if the mafia sends a framer to BM? Well, we lynch both the tracker and the framer. VERY good for us. The framer could cause lots of problems Offshoot of second problem. What if the Innocent Stalker visits BM? We lynch both, and we lose an Innocent stalker and the Tracker Curve Balls: I'll think more on this situation. But Pandain, it's better than anything I can think of myself. Assuming totally random odds, and also only 1 innocent stalker, there is a 93.44% chance of succeeding. The Godfather cannot be tracked. Yeah BM dies today, then. We can make Foolishness THIS GUY if BM flips red. | ||
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SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:15 LSB wrote: I'll think more on this situation. But Pandain, it's better than anything I can think of myself. Assuming totally random odds, and also only 1 innocent stalker, there is a 93.44% chance of succeeding. Change this to 93.33% I can't do math x.x | ||
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:17 Divinek wrote: how does that net us a circle of blues. BM's innocence is not guaranteed unless 3 mafia kp go through and surely now they wont let that happen. As for the blues we have to lynch one of the people the watcher sees if more than one visits to confirm who the tracker is and by that point he's dead We can use the bus driver to keep bm alive though cause then the watcher and tracker will see the same person, though it wont clear bm. But if we dont use the bus driver then bm is probably gonna die soo yeah No you see... tracker will know whether BM is mafia. Tracker can PM watcher sharing his results. Even if mafia does so too( by faking to be tracker) after we lynch one of them we can tell who told the truth. Therefore, we have a watcher and whatever BM is. If he's blue, than we have two blues in a circle. Yay for town. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
(at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get) so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:18 SouthRawrea wrote: Also would like to mention we have multiple, stackable medics. Do we? We have people who can be used as 'medics' Watchers, Bus Drivers, Medics. But possibly only 1 medic | ||
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote: also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low (at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get) so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think He's not town, he claimed blue. Therefore he's only ninja, GF, or red. Doubt he's ninja because he's been so active and already claimed blue. Seems like a mafish thing. If we don't get anything therefore, we lynch him. And we have a mafia. Worst case scenario: He really messed up and is ninja. Not that bad either. | ||
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