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On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible.
Why did it get more iffy if GF can't be tracked? The watcher will still see the tracker visit and the mafia would have to waste a roleblocker/framer and do it on their own GF so that it's not just one person visiting.
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On August 07 2010 11:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Maybe your plan isn't useless in the previous mentioned situations; it would be more accurate to say that it doesn't get any better by using BM and it could get much worse by using BM.
i agree
id much rather lynch him or one of the inactives and use the watcher/tracker thing on someone else
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On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker.
GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later.
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On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later.
BM is NOT a townie. HE claimed blue. Therefore, he is either lying and red or is really blue. And where does it say vets cannot be tracked? Don't see it in role.
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On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later.
even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy
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vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked?
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On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:
vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked?
agreed, then it reverts back to its "no mafia interference plan" where we have two confirmed blues. So perhaps we should have in that scenario the watcher and tracker come out in open. Than everyone RC(since they are clean.) Than we can hunt down the vets. Would be worth it if we get a GF. Very worth it.
In addition, in the HIGHLY unlikely scenario that he IS GF, than he will still get caught as stated above.
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On August 07 2010 11:44 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. Why did it get more iffy if GF can't be tracked? The watcher will still see the tracker visit and the mafia would have to waste a roleblocker/framer and do it on their own GF so that it's not just one person visiting.
If the GF could be tracked, Pandain's plan would be awesome. We would look at the kill list, and if the first hit went through, it would match what the tracker saw BM do. So then we would just have to worry about our own medics or other blues blocking the first hit. Mafia would have to consider not hitting at all, just to save BM. Either way awesome for us.
But GF can't be tracked. So if BM is mafia and doesn't get lynched, mafia will select him as GF for sure. This makes him indistinguishable from a real veteran if he choosed the veteran, since veterans can't be tracked either. He could also fake vigi, or really any role and just not use a power. So we couldn't get a circle of 3 for-sure blues out of the deal, we might risk people jumping the gun and claiming to BM.
I don't see why BM is any better for THIS GUY than anyone else. Since I think he is red, I thought it would be awesome to track him, but if he's red they will just make him GF so its no better than any other pick. So I'd rather just lynch the guy I think is red and see what happens from there since we probably won't need a complicated blue plan if he's red, we will be in such good shape.
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On August 07 2010 11:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:29 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:27 SouthRawrea wrote:
I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY. your logical reasoning is astounding there are no words for the stuff that comes out of your mouth really It's true. He seems to be on my side but he does not make sense to me.
Scenario 1a: Pyrr is Godfather. Pyrr lead the campaign against Bill Murray. If Bill Murray flips town sided, suspicion is placed upon Pyrr for possibly being a mafia creating chaos. He then is checked by tracker. If he does not show up at all, we have a lynch candidate as he is either GF or Ninja. If lynch does not go through, the other ninjas WILL kill him. Why would a Godfather want this 2-3 different groups after his ass on the same day?
Scenario 1b: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips red. Pyrr is not cleared, mafia is dead. Godfather would not want this either.
Scenario 1c: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips ninja. Nothing happens really.
Scenario 2: Pyrr is Ninja. Bill Murray flips town. Tracker on Pyrr. Pyrr does not show up. Pyrr claims ninja and has watcher+tracker on him. Watcher outs tracker+anyone else. We get a role blocker down and medic is now on watcher. Bus driver is on Pyrr. Watcher is on tracker. Boom.
This is for day 2. Do random checking on night 1 and lynch BM day 1. Does that work?
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On August 07 2010 11:52 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:
vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked? agreed, then it reverts back to its "no mafia interference plan" where we have two confirmed blues. So perhaps we should have in that scenario the watcher and tracker come out in open. Than everyone RC(since they are clean.) Than we can hunt down the vets. Would be worth it if we get a GF. Very worth it. In addition, in the HIGHLY unlikely scenario that he IS GF, than he will still get caught as stated above.
If he is red, he is guaranteed to be GF since they don't have to select GF till the end of the day and they read this thread.
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On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:
vets can't visit anyone else so i guess they can't be tracked?
I can't believe this is my 1000th post ;_;
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Or do Pandain's plan and add this as an additional layer of protection to reduce the chances of the nosy townies (possibly more than 1.) getting in the way.
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On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy
the thing is i think pyrr wants to push for bm's lynch and if he's our target for this then he cant really do that. which is understandable
so it'd be perfectly reasonable to switch it to someone who we know we dont really want to lynch on day 1. Because while i doubt bm is going to get lynched it'd still be nice to leave him open to the possibility
i mean we could like do it on someone like me or pandain, or uh i dunno you? someone who probably would never get GF because then we KNOW that person isnt mafia
because the only way a tracked person isnt mafia is if they are the GF
because even if you track a mafia member and they hit a medic or something
"If you track Mafia, then you will be led to the scene of the first target on the Mafia hitlist."
you're still led to a scene so you know exactly what happened and what the person you are tracking is
this all depends on the fact that mafia havent already chosen their gf and if there is any cut off for doing so, other wise bm is as good as anyone else really unless we really want him to die
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On August 07 2010 11:53 SouthRawrea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:29 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:27 SouthRawrea wrote:
I would just like to say Pyrr is most likely not GF because if BM flips town-sided which he would if Pyrr was RED, then Pyrr would most likely assume he himself would become THIS GUY. It would eventually be outted that he was ninja/godfather. Ninjas double stack hits on him. Lights out for him. Town wouldn't be able to prove he was ninja instead of GF with a DT check or anything in fact as he has no need to be the one doing the killing. (He could just vote: No kill) The same would apply for any RED as he would get checked by DT almost immediately probably. Thus we can just fastforward this and lynch BM and make Pyrr THIS GUY. your logical reasoning is astounding there are no words for the stuff that comes out of your mouth really It's true. He seems to be on my side but he does not make sense to me. Scenario 1a: Pyrr is Godfather. Pyrr lead the campaign against Bill Murray. If Bill Murray flips town sided, suspicion is placed upon Pyrr for possibly being a mafia creating chaos. He then is checked by tracker. If he does not show up at all, we have a lynch candidate as he is either GF or Ninja. If lynch does not go through, the other ninjas WILL kill him. Why would a Godfather want this 2-3 different groups after his ass on the same day? Scenario 1b: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips red. Pyrr is not cleared, mafia is dead. Godfather would not want this either. Scenario 1c: Pyrr is Godfather. Bill Murray flips ninja. Nothing happens really. Scenario 2: Pyrr is Ninja. Bill Murray flips town. Tracker on Pyrr. Pyrr does not show up. Pyrr claims ninja and has watcher+tracker on him. Watcher outs tracker+anyone else. We get a role blocker down and medic is now on watcher. Bus driver is on Pyrr. Watcher is on tracker. Boom. This is for day 2. Do random checking on night 1 and lynch BM day 1. Does that work?
oh come on there's more scenarios than that, those are all like the most unlikely scenarios. Stop the drugs please
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Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched.
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On August 07 2010 11:55 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy the thing is i think pyrr wants to push for bm's lynch and if he's our target for this then he cant really do that. which is understandable so it'd be perfectly reasonable to switch it to someone who we know we dont really want to lynch on day 1. Because while i doubt bm is going to get lynched it'd still be nice to leave him open to the possibility i mean we could like do it on someone like me or pandain, or uh i dunno you? someone who probably would never get GF because then we KNOW that person isnt mafia because the only way a tracked person isnt mafia is if they are the GF because even if you track a mafia member and they hit a medic or something "If you track Mafia, then you will be led to the scene of the first target on the Mafia hitlist." you're still led to a scene so you know exactly what happened and what the person you are tracking is this all depends on the fact that mafia havent already chosen their gf and if there is any cut off for doing so, other wise bm is as good as anyone else really unless we really want him to die
Rules say mafia don't have to decide GF until end of day 1. I think we should wait until Day 1 ends and choose a target right at the start of Night 1, so blue roles have time to see and follow the plan. And we should just choose one of the inactive peeps at random, since the chance of them being GF is awful low. A tracker looking at a low-level player will probably see them go after someone on the hitlist if they are mafia since such a player would probably not be GF. This seems a much more safe use of Pandain's plan than BM.
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Divinek saying I spam spam spam on pg 23:
This is my first game. You also excluded my posts that had content. So vote me if you please and calm down your e rage, bro.
I voted BM becauese I instinctively feel like he's up to no good. If he's actually good, then oh well, it was a 1/6 chance anyways and it's only the first day. Many can sit here and theroize why people posted what and everthing, but you probably aren't going to know who anyone is today.
Pyrrhuloxia United States. August 07 2010 10:12.
I think we should be suspicious of people who defend others so early..
I agree!
Divinek again targeting me on pg 25: speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far 1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!!
On August 07 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote:
also remember if tracker doesnt get anything from bm that either means he's town, gf, or ninja. But we should know the ninja thing cause no one will get anything, though the only way we know if these people got nothing is if they publically claim, so maybe we should have someone to do this for on day 2 as well so they dont have to publically tell us? Even though the odds are low
(at least i think if you track gf you dont get the info tracker normally would get)
so he doesnt have to be cleared, i think
And the roleblocker/framer can change the entire story. Divinek seems sure that BM is going to be watched tonight and is posting his expected results to further defend BM and thus fuck over the town if he is actually scum.
On August 07 2010 11:46 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Maybe your plan isn't useless in the previous mentioned situations; it would be more accurate to say that it doesn't get any better by using BM and it could get much worse by using BM. i agree id much rather lynch him or one of the inactives and use the watcher/tracker thing on someone else
So lets lynch him, and see what happens.
Reading more bickering yadda yadda.. Okay lets just lynch BM and see what happens. Okey? Ok. Then maybe DivineK.
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On August 07 2010 11:58 SouthRawrea wrote:
Oh really? You think Pyrr is NOT ninja after what he said? BTW replace Bill Murray in my posts with whoever is going to get lynched.
It'll be easy to see if Pyrr is ninja or not based on whether he dies or not. If he was right about the number, ninjas will kill him. If he lives, than he's wrong. From there we can also speculate about whether there would be 2 or 4 ninjas. I'm thinkin 4 since I doubt flamwheel would only have 2 ninjas. Would seem lame :/
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On August 07 2010 11:59 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 11:55 Divinek wrote:On August 07 2010 11:48 chaoser wrote:On August 07 2010 11:46 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:42 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:41 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On August 07 2010 11:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On August 07 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:Still, as of right now I think my plan is basically 100% foolproof. The only real thing that can mess this up is if a nosy neighbor comes in, and that's 1/30 chance. So right now, this is the best thing we've got. So I highly urge all of you to unvote Bill Murray this instant. Right now, yes, right now. Don't keep reading this, go right now and do it. + Show Spoiler +Why haven't you done it yet? Because I think he's red and if he flips red we can try the same thing with someone else. If he survives this lynch he can take the GF role and claim vet and put himself on vet and your plan can't help us determine whether he is a real vet or fake vet. just because you THINK he's red doesn't mean that's good enough of a reason to jeopardize a plan which could result in possibly two red's being captured or a 3way blue circle. Please, unvote him right now. ? I just explained how if he is red than your plan is useless. This also means that if he is a blue role that doesn't visit, your plan is useless. Your plan can be done with a lot of different people; it doesn't have to be BM. Your plan made sense till LSB pointed out that Godfather cannot be tracked. Then it got a lot more iffy and I want to go after the highly likely red as fast as possible. If godfather cannot be tracked, than we know he is GF and lynch him. WE got a certain GF than. Otherwise, without that knowledge there is just as great a chance you are lynching a blue. Plus, my plan revolves around BM claiming blue. Without him, than we still won't have a circle if mafia fakes as a tracker. GF cannot be tracked. Townie cannot be tracked. Veteran cannot be tracked. GF can appear as veteran or townie if desired. BM has already lied a few times this game. If he changes his claim to townie, would anyone care? He can also say he is a vigi and didn't want to waste his hit during the first night and use a real hit or mafia kp hit to claim later. even if they can't be tracked, watcher still sees tracker and if it's just the two then it's all gravy the thing is i think pyrr wants to push for bm's lynch and if he's our target for this then he cant really do that. which is understandable so it'd be perfectly reasonable to switch it to someone who we know we dont really want to lynch on day 1. Because while i doubt bm is going to get lynched it'd still be nice to leave him open to the possibility i mean we could like do it on someone like me or pandain, or uh i dunno you? someone who probably would never get GF because then we KNOW that person isnt mafia because the only way a tracked person isnt mafia is if they are the GF because even if you track a mafia member and they hit a medic or something "If you track Mafia, then you will be led to the scene of the first target on the Mafia hitlist." you're still led to a scene so you know exactly what happened and what the person you are tracking is this all depends on the fact that mafia havent already chosen their gf and if there is any cut off for doing so, other wise bm is as good as anyone else really unless we really want him to die Rules say mafia don't have to decide GF until end of day 1. I think we should wait until Day 1 ends and choose a target right at the start of Night 1, so blue roles have time to see and follow the plan. And we should just choose one of the inactive peeps at random, since the chance of them being GF is awful low. A tracker looking at a low-level player will probably see them go after someone on the hitlist if they are mafia since such a player would probably not be GF. This seems a much more safe use of Pandain's plan than BM.
ah well if that's the rule then that's what we should do 100% maybe even 1000000%?!?!?
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On August 07 2010 12:00 larjarse wrote:
Divinek saying I spam spam spam on pg 23:
This is my first game. You also excluded my posts that had content. .
i included every.single.one. of your posts since the game started. (barring me being dyslexic or something since im not perfect)
dont start that crap with me boy
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