If any blue gets roleblocked, they will be notified of the waxing and they will know not to expect a PM from the watcher.
If the watcher gets roleblocked, they just don't send out PMs since they didn't get to watch.
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
If any blue gets roleblocked, they will be notified of the waxing and they will know not to expect a PM from the watcher. If the watcher gets roleblocked, they just don't send out PMs since they didn't get to watch. | ||
Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? The mafia can't watch, so there will be blues that don't get PMd from a mafia trying to fake watcher. The mafia fake-watcher may also end up PMing greens, there by giving themselves away. | ||
Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? The mafia can't watch, so there will be blues that don't get PMd from a mafia trying to fake watcher. The mafia fake-watcher may also end up PMing greens, there by giving themselves away. true true. Still, for "vigilante's" to visit him they would have to shoot him, and even if the said medics did protect him it still means they lose their KP. So they should NOT. | ||
SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:18 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. If what person accidentally sends what to a mafia? We can easily pick out a fake watcher with this plan because the only way to fake watcher will be to CORRECTLY GUESS 100% OF THE VISITING BLUES. | ||
Misder
United States1557 Posts
On August 07 2010 11:44 Roffles wrote: Honestly, I don't give a fuck what goes on Day 1. Just a bunch of nonsense garbage spewed out by everyone who's got no clue what anyone is. That being said, I don't see why BM doesn't understand why his plan won't work. In all of the confusion of the plan (that might just be me though...), we shouldn't miss these posts. Roffles just stated that the plan that is very probable of getting a mafia name is not important. This may mean that Roffles is trying to frame this plan as "nonsense garbage", meaning we shouldn't continue with the plan. More scummy than town. And this post is one of two posts he posted. Granted, he did state that he doesn't want to post too much, but still... I'm going to vote roffles. He doesn't even seem like to he's reading the thread. Either he is townie and just doesn't post (which is unlikely as he is more of a veteran mafia player), a blue (also unlikely because he would actually pay attention to the plan), a ninja (likely, cause he has no point in helping), or mafia (which may be likely because he doesn't want to post). Town makes a good lynch if he is ninja, or if he is mafia. | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:18 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. If what person accidentally sends what to a mafia? We can easily pick out a fake watcher with this plan because the only way to fake watcher will be to CORRECTLY GUESS 100% OF THE VISITING BLUES. So some adaptions to this plan: People who get pmed from watcher will wait 12-24 hours to see if a townie will claim he got a pm from said person before the blues will respond vigis will NOT visit said person(lol) This plan does seem pretty good... | ||
Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ah wtf there are nosy neighbors. didn't even fucking see that till now. 1/30 chance, negligible. | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:25 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ah wtf there are nosy neighbors. didn't even fucking see that till now. 1/30 chance, negligible. We don't know how many there are do we? | ||
Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:27 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:25 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ah wtf there are nosy neighbors. didn't even fucking see that till now. 1/30 chance, negligible. We don't know how many there are do we? okay, in which case they will respond" Huh... what the fadoodle you talkin' bout son." Than DTS can check them and see if they are town. Problem solved. | ||
SouthRawrea
Canada608 Posts
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:33 SouthRawrea wrote: Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan. GF can't visit someone. | ||
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
we can easily just get every townie that gets a pm from the 'watcher' to say he did and if it's more than say 1 or 2 , two would easily be even pushing it, then all the blues can know the watcher is a bullshitter. and besides like said the mafia would have to for sure hit every blue on that list accurately and there's just no way mafia could come even close to doing this because all the people that visit him KNOW they did it | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:24 Pandain wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2010 12:22 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:18 Pandain wrote: On August 07 2010 12:18 chaoser wrote: On August 07 2010 12:15 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: On August 07 2010 12:08 LSB wrote: Before I go to sleep. What about this? Watcher watches BM. Everyone else makes a beeline and random medics / Vigilanties / Stalkers go visit BM. The Watcher then proceeds to PM everyone who visited BM and demands a Role Claim. If someone pretends to be watcher, he'll probably make a mistake and won't send a PM to the right person, and then easy expose. After a while, if the people who visited BM confirm that the Watcher is correct. The Watcher PMs everyone else who did not visit BM and demands a roleclaim So we basically get 1 person who is confirmed. First thing: no benefit to using BM as the watched person. That said: maybe this is better. Only problems are with getting waxed but our blues will know if they get waxed so that's not even a problem. Mafia would get the ID of the Watcher but we could protect them indefinitely with bus driver, right? Dude I think we might have a winner, here. Please look at LSB's plan here and critique it. How would people know which one is real watcher and which one is mafia if they get asked? agreed, and what if a person accidently sends it to a mafia because they asked first. No wayt ot ell who real watcher is. If what person accidentally sends what to a mafia? We can easily pick out a fake watcher with this plan because the only way to fake watcher will be to CORRECTLY GUESS 100% OF THE VISITING BLUES. So some adaptions to this plan: People who get pmed from watcher will wait 12-24 hours to see if a townie will claim he got a pm from said person before the blues will respond vigis will NOT visit said person(lol) This plan does seem pretty good... Current Version of LSB Plan We pick a THIS GUY. All watchers watch him. All detectives check him. All medics prot him. All trackers track him. Bus drivers and vigis stay away. Hatters probably stay away, too. If a blue's action went through (no waxing) they will expect a PM from a watcher. If no PMs are sent, there is no watcher or watcher was waxed. If a blue gets one PM, then that is the real watcher unless the unlikely event of the watcher being waxed (mafia can possibly claim waxed watcher). If a green gets a PM they can come forward - they are nosy neighbor or mafia is faking. If no greens come forward we are probably doing good. If a blue that didn't act on THIS GUY gets a PM, we have a surefire mafia. If no one steps forward seeing shenanigans for say, 24 hours. We can have watcher step forward - no one else comes forward we can protect them with bus. If more than one step forward, a blue can use pm evidence to out them if they are fake, maybe a DT can use a mouth they've confirmed (look for mafia to use an innocent as a mouth here, or maybe a mafia as a mouth like rastaban/sr last game). | ||
Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On August 07 2010 12:33 SouthRawrea wrote: Godfather can fake whispered green can they not? I think we should stick with the original plan. Any chance you want to talk in the thread and on the record about why you switched your vote from Bill Murray to love1another in order to switch it from 5-4 to 4-5? | ||
bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
BTW hesymrr, i want greens to act blue because: 1. it makes active 2. it makes blues easier to hide amidst the town if every acts like blue instead of them attempting to seem green. But I guess you think that would make reds easier to hide? I think with so many blue roles available, we can rely on finding alot of reds with blue facts. IMO. | ||
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
we get a circle that includes trackers, watchers, medics, dts, and even MH cause they might as well place a bomb on bm/this person whoever, and they can move it the next day just so they can be put into this circle only vig and vets wont be pulled in right away but still how do we distinguish a role blocker from all the other roles? if they visit with all these people and fake claim there's no way to check them out because we dont have role counts, unless this person is the go between, between ALL of the roles and doesnt use names or something | ||
rastaban
United States2294 Posts
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