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On July 18 2010 16:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 16:27 Pandain wrote:On July 18 2010 16:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 18 2010 16:17 Pandain wrote:On July 18 2010 16:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Actually, until those 5 people explain themselves.
##unvote
##vote pandain
You get the vote as the third - fourth voter of most bandwagons turns out to be red. Convince me your legit, or stop being retarded and ill move my vote. Aww  . I had unvoted you too. You see, I had originally voted you but wasn't completely sure. What Sinquity said about Hyperola I found persuasive. His first post is accusing Sinquity of being Mafia based on the sole fact his post was long. Now, what more of a baseless accusation can there be? Now I'm new here, but I found that deeply disturbing when it had been pointed out. Now, after 4 of us have voted against him, what does he do? Hrm. Exactly what scum would do.
Starting a bandwagon against me when I've accused one of their operatives. Here he is, still trying to accuse poor Sinquity of being a mafia based on his original "evidence" of "His post was too long." I just find his actions all in all highly questionable, and at the very least want such a baseless accusing person out of the game. Thing is, he did call someone out, which explains why that person voted him, it also could explain another person voting for him. BUT 5 people total voting for someone based on day 1 activity on a weekend with little to no real discussion going on makes a bandwagon insanely bad idea. IF he flips town, those original bandwagoners are going to get owned by town for the bad play, or ignored all game for being stupid and potentially lose us said game. I appreciate where you are coming from, and well, its not bad in principle and if this had been posted day 2 or after I would fully endorse the action, but bandwagons day 1 are insanely anti town, especially when based on such a lack of information to discuss. Hmm good point, and I see where you are coming from. Point of information though, I believe I was only the 3rd person who voted for hyperbola. In fact, I had missed the original post calling out Hyperola and only when the other guy quoted it did I see it, find it reasonable, and decide to change my vote. However, I still find his statements to be at the very least questionable, and to quote a more expirenced than I mafia member: On July 18 2010 16:16 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
3. We should be using our day 1 lynch to kill someone who is being STUPID. This way we either kill a stupid townie (a burden) or a stupid mafia (yay!)
. If you could provide sufficient persuasion arguing in favor of being ultra cautious and countering his statement, I would consider changing my mind to abstaining. I don't view hyperbola's play to be stupid actually. Not in comparison to a few other players I can think of thus far this game Divinek, zeks, and opz come to mind. Re read their posts to see why.
Hmm... very interesting. *strokes chin*
Well just to clear up possible misconceptions, basically the main reason I'm voting Hyperbola is because not only did he accuse Sinquity of mafia based on horrible evidence, he CONTINUED with it. Even after it was plainly proven that his evidence his horrible. now, I AM starting to think that he may just be stupid, in which case in light of INfuNdiBuLuMs most recent post may still be justifiable for voting.
INfuNdiBuLuM, please clarify on this?
Now, looking at Divinek's post in which he originally joined the vote against hyperola, we see HIS evidence:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2010 10:51 Divinek wrote:
I actually have to really agree now that this has been pointed out.
This is his first and only post, and it is posted in a manner to perhaps put himself just above the threshold of inactivity.
And he then votes for someone for contributing and trying to help the town too much. Not to mention the post he's quoting as his 'reason' for voting is the very one that points out his own activity.
Perhaps we can then put some more pressure on his inactive ass to give us any more substance.
##unvote
##vote hyperbola
Note the bolded section, which is the basis of my evidence, and the italizied section, which is his. I do not so much agree at all with the italized section, merely distraught at Hyperolas actions so far.
Hyperbola, you may clarify as well your reasoning against Sinquity.
Now, until he offers more reasons why he's making these baseless accusations, or you offer evidence that it would be better NOT to lynch him due to his actions(I'm open to changing my vote of course if persuaded), my vote stands.
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On July 18 2010 16:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 16:27 Pandain wrote:On July 18 2010 16:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 18 2010 16:17 Pandain wrote:On July 18 2010 16:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Actually, until those 5 people explain themselves.
##unvote
##vote pandain
You get the vote as the third - fourth voter of most bandwagons turns out to be red. Convince me your legit, or stop being retarded and ill move my vote. Aww . I had unvoted you too. You see, I had originally voted you but wasn't completely sure. What Sinquity said about Hyperola I found persuasive. His first post is accusing Sinquity of being Mafia based on the sole fact his post was long. Now, what more of a baseless accusation can there be? Now I'm new here, but I found that deeply disturbing when it had been pointed out. Now, after 4 of us have voted against him, what does he do? Hrm. Exactly what scum would do.
Starting a bandwagon against me when I've accused one of their operatives. Here he is, still trying to accuse poor Sinquity of being a mafia based on his original "evidence" of "His post was too long." I just find his actions all in all highly questionable, and at the very least want such a baseless accusing person out of the game. Thing is, he did call someone out, which explains why that person voted him, it also could explain another person voting for him. BUT 5 people total voting for someone based on day 1 activity on a weekend with little to no real discussion going on makes a bandwagon insanely bad idea. IF he flips town, those original bandwagoners are going to get owned by town for the bad play, or ignored all game for being stupid and potentially lose us said game. I appreciate where you are coming from, and well, its not bad in principle and if this had been posted day 2 or after I would fully endorse the action, but bandwagons day 1 are insanely anti town, especially when based on such a lack of information to discuss. Hmm good point, and I see where you are coming from. Point of information though, I believe I was only the 3rd person who voted for hyperbola. In fact, I had missed the original post calling out Hyperola and only when the other guy quoted it did I see it, find it reasonable, and decide to change my vote. However, I still find his statements to be at the very least questionable, and to quote a more expirenced than I mafia member: On July 18 2010 16:16 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
3. We should be using our day 1 lynch to kill someone who is being STUPID. This way we either kill a stupid townie (a burden) or a stupid mafia (yay!)
. If you could provide sufficient persuasion arguing in favor of being ultra cautious and countering his statement, I would consider changing my mind to abstaining. I don't view hyperbola's play to be stupid actually. Not in comparison to a few other players I can think of thus far this game Divinek, zeks, and opz come to mind. Re read their posts to see why.
Hmm, opz is definitely stupid.
On July 18 2010 03:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
##Vote: Chaoser
He's mafia.
Also, other mafia, = Darth, and Infundiblum.
Trust me.
But at the same time that could just mean he's mafia too or thats (bad) sarcasm.
Another post:
On July 18 2010 16:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:
##Vote BC
-_-
I have never liked your writing style from any game.
From my perspective it makes perfect sense BC. But I guess it would only make sense to me....Lolz
Stupid too, accusing more people. Either mafia, really stupid, or really really bad sarcasm/jokes.
As for the other two people, Divinek isn't neccesarily stupid. He has evidence, maybe his points are a bit off, but he's not the malicious stupid(mafia alert!) like Opz or Hyperbola is. As for zeks, why so is he stupid? He's made short posts, but if you think he's stupid because he voted hyperola, still sort of flimsy. He very well could be, so perhaps zeks too should clarify why he voted Hyperbola.
Defend yourself Zeks or Die! 
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On July 18 2010 17:34 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
My thoughts: hyperbola is prolly just a quick trigger townie; I'd think a mafia would be too skittish to CONTINUE with it, especially when voting is so thin at this point. Mafia wouldn't have to be desperate as of now. Townie or red, hyperbola is obviously desperate now, with so many votes against him. But the desperation started and caused the bandwagon (according to Pandain). When the hyperbola bandwagon started, voting was evened out so there wouldn't be a need for mafia to bandwagon on someone. Mafia don't really tend to bandwagon anyone day one, at least they don't start the first bandwagon. They might start a second bandwagon to save someone's ass. Doesn't really help prove anyone innocent but I think hyperbola's behavior could be townie and the voting against him could be townie too. In better words, neither action really stick out at me as suspicious but no one's exonerated. Maybe if a team of people desperately work to save him there could be something going on.
I'd like to hear why foolishness is so quiet this game. I've seen him in games as green and games as blue (DT). Both times he was really active and talkative and was somewhat of a leader with plans and so on. I've never seen him quiet and I've never seen him red. Could be an irl thing, could be something else.
Darth...'s plan to "maximize" deaths on Day 1 strikes me as poor thinking. I get that it gets us information, so this could certainly be a townie sentiment. However, I've been red in many past games and I often got pissed off at how much harder it could be to win with just one more townie alive at the end, due to a non-lynch or something similar.
At this point, my vote really is between Darth and hyperbola because it seems too late to rally the town anywhere else. Hyperbola strikes me as green running mouth. The reactions to that at least give the town something, even if he's red. Darth's hanging back and saying something that could be a subtle red move or a legitimate townie move.
Yeah I double checked his other posts, and everything else is Darth clown spamming. As someone nicely put it: he's playing like Chezinu. So I can't be made to feel guilty about voting for him.
##unvote
##vote DarthTheinAn
Wait what? I thought he was joking? Why would somone honestly want to maximize deaths?
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Youngmini, answer my message!!! Or else our secret Friends' Alliance is through!
I can't believe I might've let you trick me like that! :'(.
*sobs*
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On July 19 2010 01:19 Divinek wrote:hm @BC when you ask for my reason for voting for hyperbola it is clearly stated in my post voting for him lol, beyond that it forced him to post what one more time? for a grand total of 2 posts? id still call that almost inactive, so while we have people with 0 posts i figure getting a few extra votes in him for pressure is good for information when he makes such a stupid post sure it could likely be a bad townie just throwing around baseless accusations but it could also be a retarded red just doing something without thinking. So im kinda worried that either BC doesnt know how to read or he's playing very sketchy to me and overly defending someone with two posts who has made them both pretty poorly? and then tree hugger goes on again to say we had no reason blah blah i could say we have a reason and look i didnt post any substance either. i gave valid justification for my vote, which has probably more backing than most votes in this thread. He's the best target for me since he's been just active enough to be considered not inactive and his initial posts were retarded, i usually find that to be good enough for the RVS. i think that even if he ends up town based on the quality and lack of his posts so far it'd be better for town if he died anyway, i havent seen to much in the light of better candidates yet but when you guys vote for people ill be sure to not quote the reason and say you had no reason too 
Well I think BC is just being cautios, that's all. I mean he did bring up a good point(intentionally or unintentionally) in that Opz could very well be more mafia-esque than Hyperbola. However, now one of the reasons I am sticking with Hyperbola is that I don't want Darth hanged lol
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On July 19 2010 02:06 Hyperbola wrote:Alright guys take a breather... sheesh. Especially you Divinek: Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 13:09 Divinek wrote:On July 18 2010 12:30 tree.hugger wrote:
And this bandwagon against Hyperbola is just dumb.
## Vote Laxercannon why is it dumb Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 13:57 Divinek wrote:On July 18 2010 13:45 tree.hugger wrote:On July 18 2010 13:09 Divinek wrote:On July 18 2010 12:30 tree.hugger wrote:
And this bandwagon against Hyperbola is just dumb.
## Vote Laxercannon why is it dumb The reason it was introduced in the first place what completely ridiculous. Nothing smart about any of it. We should lynch people for good reasons, not dumb ones. I'm still looking for more nominations for people to lynch. I think those three are a good start. Time to pick one, yes? How about I PM five people a list of the candidates in order, and then someone in the thread will choose a number from 1-3? but WHY was it ridiculous, WHY was it not smart, WHY were the reasons dumb. You might as well have not posted as there was no substance to what you just said Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 15:29 Divinek wrote:
How is voting for some one cause of a long , useful post defending himself pretty well? He said in other games he has been quiet but that doesnt mean that shit is gonna fly here. And he didnt really say why someone who makes a long post is a scum or anything.
I dont feel he really defended himself well at all You seem pretty adamant about accusing me for like a quick post I made a while back. Look dude, I'll spill the beans, my post against Sinequity wasn't serious. I still can't believe you haven't caught on to that by now. I accuse him for making a long post just for fun and I also didn't feel like abstaining. I also like being quiet and examining things behind the lines. What you're gonna crucify me every game for not posting often? I'm keeping my vote on Sinequity as a placeholder, mmkay?
Hmm... I was actually considering unvoting you if Darth was going to be safe. But this just changed my mine. To quote an earlier post by you, in which you were (seeming to) defend your voting of Sinquity:
On July 18 2010 12:23 Hyperbola wrote:
Hrm. Exactly what scum would do.
Starting a bandwagon against me when I've accused one of their operatives.
And SiNiquity, you took your time to write another rather lengthy post against me. I'm quite flattered but this is quite suspicious in my book. You almost seem on edge and unload the big guns on a random passerby on the street who looked you the wrong way.
And as a semi-legitimate defense: I'm quite quiet in all of my games. Yes I have been mafia in some but I've also had my fair share of green and blue roles.
You've picked the wrong person to act as your scapegoat bucko.
Note the italized section. When compared to your most recent post, it just doesn't make sense. Instead of saying "Oh lol, dw I was jk," you actually defend yourself. The bolded section could be a ill-placed attempt at continuing the joke, but the italized section just shows that you were trying to defend your voting of Sinquity.
So in my eyes, you were going to go as long as you could trying to get people to vote Sinquity but now that you are in danger of being lynched, you try to pass it off as a joke. If you your second post had indeed been "Oh lol, dw I was jk" I would have unvoted you. Now it's just too sketchy to let you off the hook.
Other People's thoughts?
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On July 19 2010 02:06 Hyperbola wrote:Alright guys take a breather... sheesh. Especially you Divinek: Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 13:09 Divinek wrote:On July 18 2010 12:30 tree.hugger wrote:
And this bandwagon against Hyperbola is just dumb.
## Vote Laxercannon why is it dumb Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 13:57 Divinek wrote:On July 18 2010 13:45 tree.hugger wrote:On July 18 2010 13:09 Divinek wrote:On July 18 2010 12:30 tree.hugger wrote:
And this bandwagon against Hyperbola is just dumb.
## Vote Laxercannon why is it dumb The reason it was introduced in the first place what completely ridiculous. Nothing smart about any of it. We should lynch people for good reasons, not dumb ones. I'm still looking for more nominations for people to lynch. I think those three are a good start. Time to pick one, yes? How about I PM five people a list of the candidates in order, and then someone in the thread will choose a number from 1-3? but WHY was it ridiculous, WHY was it not smart, WHY were the reasons dumb. You might as well have not posted as there was no substance to what you just said Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 15:29 Divinek wrote:
How is voting for some one cause of a long , useful post defending himself pretty well? He said in other games he has been quiet but that doesnt mean that shit is gonna fly here. And he didnt really say why someone who makes a long post is a scum or anything.
I dont feel he really defended himself well at all You seem pretty adamant about accusing me for like a quick post I made a while back.Look dude, I'll spill the beans, my post against Sinequity wasn't serious. I still can't believe you haven't caught on to that by now. I accuse him for making a long post just for fun and I also didn't feel like abstaining. I also like being quiet and examining things behind the lines. What you're gonna crucify me every game for not posting often? I'm keeping my vote on Sinequity as a placeholder, mmkay?
I'd like to elaborate on this more, in fact. I will be supporting my view via the use of italized and bolded sections of previoius posts, which I love to do(in case you haven't found out.)
Note the bolded section(XD). Despite the fact that he is trying to pass off his two posts accusing Sinquity as a joke(one of them defending the previous post)*, he still accuses Divenek despite the fact that I believe Divenek was on the right side this time. After all, Hyperbola did just accuse Sinquity of being mafia based on the fact he was "contributing too much", and then Hyperbola continued to defend that. In every post Hyperbola has made so far, it has (at least slightly) accused someone.
+ Show Spoiler +Note the underlined section. Now, this may be getting too far in(probably), but might as well as Mafia is incredibally psychologically centered. Spill the beans? Why did you have to hide it? Note: I have decided to spoiler this as this is the weakest of these points and thus should only be used as subtle observation, in no way to be used as a valid reason to lynch him.
I just find Hyperbola's posts these games to be highly questionable. This post in no way is even my main points, you can view the previous pages as to why I voted Hyperbola. Please look them over and decide for yourselves. And of course, if you have an opposing viewpoint, please share. Lynching is a final decision, there is no turning back after.
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On July 19 2010 03:41 youngminii wrote:
@ Pandain: It's normal for people to defend themselves. I do it, Barack Obama does it, and you do it.
Except Hypberola just said he was "joking" all along. Why would he defend himself then?
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On July 19 2010 05:17 DarthThienAn wrote:ebwop: did I say YellowInk? I think I meant youngminii. lol. Anyway, later all. Probably be back after the vote. Hope you guys don't kill me. Death Post: + Show Spoiler +
What does death post mean?
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Do we know how many townies there are? 2, 3?
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On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Guys, really? Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy: People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy:Brown BearOn July 19 2010 06:29 BrownBear wrote:
Ahhhh shti!
I am back, sorry. Is it too late to avoid modkill? On July 19 2010 06:30 BrownBear wrote:
###Vote: Hyperbola On July 19 2010 06:31 BrownBear wrote:
Whew, looks like I got back in time. Sorry about that. Time to go read the thread. Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread? youngminiiOn July 18 2010 21:01 youngminii wrote:
Actually, I'm not going to overlook it. Why would you place a vote on me 'just in case'? Especially after you heard BC say I was a strong player (which citi.zen evidently disagrees with)? You have these two guys criticising my post when it's not even serious, you jump on this bandwagon and then put a placeholder vote on me just in case?
Does this not strike you as scummy at all? Overly scummy but scummy nonetheless? In fact, I think this is the scummiest post I have seen all game (not that long). However, I don't think you're really that bad at this game and even a mediocre scum wouldn't do that kind of mistake. Will need confirmation on other more experienced TL mafia players on your meta. You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue. You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town). SiNiquityI had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat). Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you. This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me. LaXerCannonOn July 18 2010 09:30 LaXerCannon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 09:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
If we randomly pick someone, we have a better chance of getting a blue then a red. Why don't we try voting for who we think is red? It's not like the game will automatically get easier for us as it goes on, since there aren't any clues. Also, at this point everyone's votes are spread out so we are nearly guaranteed an innocent lynch. Getting everyone to agree to vote for the random could be awfully tough.
IF we wanted to do the random thing, we could tie it in advance to something numerical in one or both of the playoff games tonight. Like number of factories made by WeMade players, or that number divided by two, or taking the number of letters in each winning player's ID and looping back to 1 if it goes over 30. It wouldn't be random, but we could independently agree on it, and none of us could influence it in advance. We don't know the distribution of red/blue/green in the list so it is almost as good as random unless the reds get us to agree on a bad number (like maybe they get us to agree on something times 2, which would never land on the first person on the list). We can take this step further by listing inactives in reverse order and numbering them from 1-X, use a number we obtain from the second paragraph and count through the list, looping when needed. I'm getting carried away here... I think lynching an inactive player is the best course of action. I also think we should get a list of players who are new to this mafia game so we know who they are. A new player who's scum can easily hide under that mask; I think it's best we can monitor them from the get go. On July 18 2010 09:33 LaXerCannon wrote:
##Abstain in case I can't find it within myself to wake up early tomorrow to post (no other time >_>) On July 18 2010 11:38 LaXerCannon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?
Oh hell no absolutely not.
I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.
No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS. Bad idea, there's no incentive for town to post -> silent town = dead town On July 18 2010 16:13 LaXerCannon wrote:
playoffs are done for today! my next post will be in....around 16-18 hours. First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much. ------------------------------------------------------- this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die sorry about trying to have fun guys :/ j/k ~peace
Wait I'm not one of them? Even though I've been rallying against you hardcore?
I feel so special n.n
But really, even though this list may be helpful later, I could add you to the list and make it the strongest case. It's just without a strong anti-lynch group, one of us has to be lynched. And unfortunately, jokes like yours can be taken too seriously to be left alone. Even if your not mafia, at least you're probably not a blue(based on your posts).
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On July 19 2010 08:38 Misder wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote:Guys, really? Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy: People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy:Brown BearShow nested quote +On July 19 2010 06:29 BrownBear wrote:
Ahhhh shti!
I am back, sorry. Is it too late to avoid modkill? Show nested quote +On July 19 2010 06:31 BrownBear wrote:
Whew, looks like I got back in time. Sorry about that. Time to go read the thread. Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread? youngminiiShow nested quote +On July 18 2010 21:01 youngminii wrote:
Actually, I'm not going to overlook it. Why would you place a vote on me 'just in case'? Especially after you heard BC say I was a strong player (which citi.zen evidently disagrees with)? You have these two guys criticising my post when it's not even serious, you jump on this bandwagon and then put a placeholder vote on me just in case?
Does this not strike you as scummy at all? Overly scummy but scummy nonetheless? In fact, I think this is the scummiest post I have seen all game (not that long). However, I don't think you're really that bad at this game and even a mediocre scum wouldn't do that kind of mistake. Will need confirmation on other more experienced TL mafia players on your meta. You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue. You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town). SiNiquityI had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat). Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you. This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me. LaXerCannonShow nested quote +On July 18 2010 09:30 LaXerCannon wrote:On July 18 2010 09:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
If we randomly pick someone, we have a better chance of getting a blue then a red. Why don't we try voting for who we think is red? It's not like the game will automatically get easier for us as it goes on, since there aren't any clues. Also, at this point everyone's votes are spread out so we are nearly guaranteed an innocent lynch. Getting everyone to agree to vote for the random could be awfully tough.
IF we wanted to do the random thing, we could tie it in advance to something numerical in one or both of the playoff games tonight. Like number of factories made by WeMade players, or that number divided by two, or taking the number of letters in each winning player's ID and looping back to 1 if it goes over 30. It wouldn't be random, but we could independently agree on it, and none of us could influence it in advance. We don't know the distribution of red/blue/green in the list so it is almost as good as random unless the reds get us to agree on a bad number (like maybe they get us to agree on something times 2, which would never land on the first person on the list). We can take this step further by listing inactives in reverse order and numbering them from 1-X, use a number we obtain from the second paragraph and count through the list, looping when needed. I'm getting carried away here... I think lynching an inactive player is the best course of action. I also think we should get a list of players who are new to this mafia game so we know who they are. A new player who's scum can easily hide under that mask; I think it's best we can monitor them from the get go. Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 09:33 LaXerCannon wrote:
##Abstain in case I can't find it within myself to wake up early tomorrow to post (no other time >_>) Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 11:38 LaXerCannon wrote:On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen! Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'. ##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no? On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?
Oh hell no absolutely not.
I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.
No lynch is a terrible idea. If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS. Bad idea, there's no incentive for town to post -> silent town = dead town Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 16:13 LaXerCannon wrote:
playoffs are done for today! my next post will be in....around 16-18 hours. First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much. ------------------------------------------------------- this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die sorry about trying to have fun guys :/ j/k ~peace
Vote: LaXerCannonblah. I don't want to abstain... but I don't know who to lynch I vote LaXerCannon because his posts don't have any substance whatsoever. He tries to contribute, but doesn't give any astounding idea. His ideas are based on previous ideas that have been said, and doesn't say anything new. Then he distracts from the conversation. Either Hyperbola is a mafia member that is trying every attempt to get out, by making false accusations, or he is a townie who make a mistake but is trying to amend it by giving analysis. I tend to lean towards the latter. Plus, Hyperbola is now being active, which is good. If he is a mafia member, his activeness may work against him because he will have to dodge a lot to make it seem like he is a townie. If he is a townie, well, good. An active townie a very very good. Hopefully, I made the right decision...
Haha, know what you mean. I'm torn too. However, I'm leaning towards trying to get out by "showing a last act of goodness" to convince others he wasn't mafia all along. All I know is that if he isn't mafia I'm going to be a sad panda.
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Hmmm whats the vote count as of now?
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*Pandain read the news this morning, the knowledge of what he had done burning on his mind. As his mind came to that single article he threw the newspaper on the ground, screaming. He threw stuff on the ground , breaking windows, plates, even his own heart(awwww).
For he had just killed an innocent man.
Pandain had learned one thing from the monstrosity, and that was to not jump to conclusions. Pandain would go back into the shadows, noting words, once in a while making acute observations.
But never again would his actions lead to the death of an innocent, a friendly, the man by the name Hyperbola."
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I'm a bit confused. Shoudln't a mafia have killed someone already?
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Won't be able to post for a while. Dog going crazy(Lightning.)
I'll be making a long epic post containing my thoughts in case I get killed tonight.
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On July 20 2010 07:33 flamewheel wrote:My bad^^
I forgive you. 
Dog's doing way better now(weird).
Just reread the rules, and am I right that the DT has as long as the twilight post to pm the host and say who they want to check. If so, I HIGHLY suggest them to check youngmini. He's definitely going to be active and I have to say, has been playing (at least) strange.
Of course, I'm still giving Youngmini the benefit of the doubt just because we are in a secret friendship alliance, and why would he lie in a secret friendship alliance? But just in case, I would suggest the DT to check them.
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On July 20 2010 08:08 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:05 Foolishness wrote:On July 20 2010 08:01 DarthThienAn wrote:Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia. Death Post: + Show Spoiler + You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch. Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble. lol. Just doing my job ^^. On another note, I think Hyberbola was Godfather, so he flipped green... I mean, BM didn't officially say that he was a townie in the night post. :D:D:D
But he died. And the host said he was innocent.
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On July 20 2010 08:33 SiNiquity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:03 Foolishness wrote:On July 20 2010 08:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 20 2010 07:44 Foolishness wrote:
So if I'm understanding this, youngminii was ahead in the votes, then BrownBear and bumatlarge voted for Hyperbola, which pushed Hyperbola ahead in the voting (and he stayed ahead until day end). So it's possible there was a push to save youngminii from being lynched.
Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts. From looking at the post after this one, I think Hyperbola had 5 to youngminii's 4, and then brownbear and bumatlarge made it 7-4. But the final was 6-4 right? No, that's what I was saying. The final vote count was 6-5. BM miscounted (attributed Jaymee's vote to Amber instead of youngminii)
Hmm... also add to this that I had expressed doubts about Hyperbola. It's possible they just wanted to be sure due to the fact that it was possible youngmini was going to be lynched.
This, of course, assumes that
They Knew Hyperbola was not mafia.
They WERE mafia.
They knew Youngmini was not mafia.
And Finally, believed that Youngmini had a chance of being lynched.
(Italicized because if any of them are true, they are ALL true)
Of the two who voted for Hypterbola (Brownbear and Bumat Large), I would say brownbear is the mroe likely.
BumatLarge's post:Look! I can change the text! is far more long and detailed than BB's. Finally, his post seems more pro town than mafia(of course he could be lying. Dang this game is hard.) Compare this with BB's post, which as others have noted is very suscipious and fallible.
A WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO WOULD BANDWAGON:
Let us not forget the tragedy of Hyperbola. I was one of those who jumped on him for a seemingly bad post. It is as likely as Hyperbola's that BB's post was taken out of context/missing information relavant. Just as Hyperbola's post was actually joking, BB could have followed this thread the whole time and merely missed one page or so. If he felt he was in danger of being modkilled, he justifiably could have quickly voted for Hyperbola since the previous pages had led him to believe that he was the mafia.
Friends, let us use calm, analyatical data, not quick rash accusations. Let us divine from the words of everyone here, factor in every piece of evidence. If your going to vote for BB, be sure, very sure.
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Hmm time passes too fast. As this is my first mafia game, I'm extra afraid I'm going to die. So in case I die, I'll live something that players can easily check on if they want to. It's the posts by each player in the game, in case a player wants to check up on something.
Tree.Hugger:
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BrownBear
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Oh god there are 600 posts. How could I be so stupid -.-. Unless people really want me to keep making these(which I'll of course do, gladly) I'll be doing it farily slowly.
+ Show Spoiler +This was harder than I thought . Oh well.
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