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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 22 2010 00:45 GMT
#23
AWESOME I WILL GET BACK IN TIME FOR THIS YAY

(is on pirated internet at a bookstore, hehe )
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 23 2010 01:22 GMT
#169
Great, I come back a day early and my teammate's already gotten us in hot water.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 23 2010 01:26 GMT
#171
On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote:
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On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:
chez:+ Show Spoiler +
-.-. .... . --.. .. -. ..- --..-- / .-- .... --- / .- .-. . / .-- . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - ..--..

Chezinu, who are we going to protect?

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On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:
Bill:+ Show Spoiler +
.. / .... . .- .-. -.. / - .... .- - / - .... . / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .-- .... --- / .--. --- ... - . -.. / .- ..-. - . .-. / -- -.-- / .-.. .- ... - / .--. --- ... - / .-- .- ... / -- .- ..-. .. .- .-.-.- / .. / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - / .- / - --- .-- -. .. . .-.-.- / .. / .- .-.. ... --- / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / - .... .- - / .-- . / -- .- -.-- / .... .- ...- . / .- / -.. - .-.-.-
I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt.

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On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:
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Di-dit, Di-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-di-dah Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dit, Di-di-dit Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-dah-dah-dit Di-dah-dit Dah-dah-dah Dah Dit Dah-di-dah-dit Dah, Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dit Dit, Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah , Dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit Dah-di-dah-dah Dah-dit Dah-dit Dit, Di-dit Di-di-dit, Di-dah-di-dit Di-dit Dah-di-dah Dit Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dit Di-di-dah Dah-dah, Dah-dah Di-dah Di-dah-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit, Di-di-dah-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-di-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah
I , would , say , protect , ace , .... , korynne , is , likely , scum , major , f.o.s.

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On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:
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Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect

oh man i feel like a detective!


LOL, nice stealth medic claim there guys. Now that it's in the open, let's see if you die tonight.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 23 2010 01:45 GMT
#175
Yass, I am back!

I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons:

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On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:
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On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk posted:
It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game.

If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use.

Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else.

Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game.


since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do:
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so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much.
?

I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this.


Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words:
On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob.

When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool.

On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:
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On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.

If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread.


you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams?


VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive.

But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already)

On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote:
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On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:
chez:+ Show Spoiler +
-.-. .... . --.. .. -. ..- --..-- / .-- .... --- / .- .-. . / .-- . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - ..--..

Chezinu, who are we going to protect?

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On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:
Bill:+ Show Spoiler +
.. / .... . .- .-. -.. / - .... .- - / - .... . / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .-- .... --- / .--. --- ... - . -.. / .- ..-. - . .-. / -- -.-- / .-.. .- ... - / .--. --- ... - / .-- .- ... / -- .- ..-. .. .- .-.-.- / .. / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - / .- / - --- .-- -. .. . .-.-.- / .. / .- .-.. ... --- / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / - .... .- - / .-- . / -- .- -.-- / .... .- ...- . / .- / -.. - .-.-.-
I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt.

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On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:
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Di-dit, Di-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-di-dah Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dit, Di-di-dit Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-dah-dah-dit Di-dah-dit Dah-dah-dah Dah Dit Dah-di-dah-dit Dah, Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dit Dit, Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah , Dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit Dah-di-dah-dah Dah-dit Dah-dit Dit, Di-dit Di-di-dit, Di-dah-di-dit Di-dit Dah-di-dah Dit Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dit Di-di-dah Dah-dah, Dah-dah Di-dah Di-dah-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit, Di-di-dah-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-di-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah
I , would , say , protect , ace , .... , korynne , is , likely , scum , major , f.o.s.

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On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:
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--. . - / --- -. / .. .-.-.- .-. .-.-.- -.-. .-.-.- / ... --- / .-- . / -.-. .- -. / -.. .. ... -.-. ..- ... ... / .-- .... --- / .-- . / ... .... --- ..- .-.. -.. / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. -
Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect

oh man i feel like a detective!


Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site:
http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html
and it is accurate to the best of my knowledge.

So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP

...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly.

There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars.

I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team.

Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today.



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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 23 2010 01:47 GMT
#176
On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote:
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On June 23 2010 10:13 L wrote:
So, here are our main options being discussed:

1. Radfield and Korynne
2. Bill Murray and Chezinu
3. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge
4. Ace and DarthThienAn
5. Durak and YellowInk
6. L and Caller
7. Nikon, Zyrre, and meeple
8. Stormtemplar, johnnyspazz, and BrownBear
9. DCLXVI, MooCow and Divinek

Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post.

First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar.

Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you.

Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown.


Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please?
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#245
On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
The post you're me-tooing, its pretty interesting. Me going 'afk' all day like its a bad thing? I've said multiple times that I work. I'm gone the majority of the day but i post when I'm here. Second, I've gone under the radar? I have the first large post of the game. I've called people out in nearly every fucking post I've made.

Who the fuck are YOU by contrast? Near 0 contributions thusfar coming from a quiet team.


Korynne and flamewheel can back me up on this. I had told them I was going to be gone until wednesday, so to put me on a 3 person team so that my inactivity wouldn't be noticed. If you'd actually taken the time to read the signup thread, you would know this. Knocking me for inactivity when I've had a planned absence is just silly. Plus, the reason I think your list is stupid isn't because you had work all day and were gone, it's because you had work all day, were gone, THEN you came back and just put up a single list with NO EXPLANATION. Summary: Learn to read, and learn to back up your lynch-lists if you don't want them called into question.

On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
Third, no, those choices aren't biased. They were based on the last 3 pages prior to that post and summarized what other people were saying at that point. I've been gone for the majority of the day, as you've said. What's more, I explicitly push both Ace and Radfield's team in that post, meaning that out of the 5 teams I'm watching, only 2 I had on my radar at the start.


Again, it doesn't matter if you're "summarizing what other people said" you need to SAY THAT in the first place. Otherwise, people are going to call you on it. When you react to people calling on it by acting like a monkey in a cage, flinging poo on as many people as possible, it makes you look bad.

On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:
So, given that all your claims are terrible, why are you making them? Well, its because the biggest chunk of my post is essentially saying that if you flip red, I'm pretty sure I know who your allies are. That makes you quite possibly the best lynch target for the night. Instead of arguing that you're legit, you instead throw out some OMGUS.

So brownbear, why you supporting an obviously garbage post? From the content and retaliatory nature, its poor on both counts. The only reason I can even start to imagine is that you're happy someone is accusing people who accuse you.


Well, yeah, wouldn't you be? Someone accused me (well, my team) for some pretty weak reasons, I'm glad people are calling them on it. Also, you have no right to yell "OMGUS" on me, given you had the first and most retarded OMGUS of the game.

Also, my allies are who?

On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:As for Durak or whatever, lol you're pretty jokes.


Uhh, wut?

Summary: Try harder next time! Also, stop throwing FoS around like it's fucking candy on halloween. It's not helping us.

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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 23 2010 07:59 GMT
#300
From my POV, in this game lynching inactives is not such an effective strategy, given that each team is going to be far more active on average than a single player, and it would be wrong to lynch one semi-active guy cause his partner hasn't really posted yet. Thus, I'm going on my reads of people, and right now, L and Bill Murray are standing out, for reasons posted earlier. BM hasn't really contributed much, posted that goofy morse code thing that was either really really bad fishing or really really bad fake-roleclaiming, and hasn't really been quick to jump on people who question him. L has been actively confusing the town with a ton of mostly content-free posts that pretend to be content-filled through angry language and blatant overuse of the FoS. If we believe L, we have 4 mafia running teams around right now, which is silly. Some accusations are good on the first day, but when half the town is under suspicion, all it does is create confusion - which is what a scummy player would try to do.

I currently have my vote on the BM-Chez team, simply because they drew my attention first. BM or Chez, if you want to make a post saying why I shouldn't lynch you/why I should lynch Team Caller-L, feel free. Similarly, L or Caller, if you want to post saying why I should keep my vote where it is, go right ahead.

Given the weird nature of the game, I really don't see the merit of lynching Team 7, since it gives us no information to go on.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 24 2010 01:09 GMT
#521
I'm still a little confused with how the voting works, honestly. Is it each member of the team has 1 vote, each team has a vote that can be split 2 or 3 ways, or is it some other weird method entirely?
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 24 2010 03:01 GMT
#571
D'oh, my apologies to team 2. You guys gave me a bad vibe early on which I rode to the end. Sorry it didn't work out.

And LaXer: I know, I know, I tend to drop off the face of the earth for long periods at a time, I'm sorry. It's a constant struggle, I'm working on it.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 24 2010 21:04 GMT
#611
I voiced my opinions on L earlier, and Ace just reinforced them. L, either step up your play and step down the random accusations, or you's in big trouble mister.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 25 2010 01:33 GMT
#627
On June 25 2010 09:21 Korynne wrote:
Wow this thread died... can we get some people to do analysis? Me and Radfield both did a couple already... but I'll do more later on.


Honestly, I don't have that much to say right now. I'm waiting to see what the result of the night actions are before making any decisions/posts.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 25 2010 16:53 GMT
#649
On June 25 2010 15:33 bumatlarge wrote:
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On June 25 2010 03:38 L wrote:
On June 25 2010 02:04 bumatlarge wrote:
L, i thought you said yo prefered T2 dead? Maybe I mistakenly assumed it. if chez switched before the last minute, I think I would have done the same as Korynne based on what I thought. I really dont care whether that statement condemns me or not, I felt was for the good of the town. But maybe you can shed light ona deeper motive for korynne protecting team 9/ killing team 2. If both T1 and T9 are red, that would really make an easy job for thetown to dig them out.

What would you rather T9 dead then T2, assuming no prior knowledge of T2's innoncence.

No.

The 3 teams I had my eye on were teams 3, 8 and 9.

A deeper motive for korynne protecting team 9 as mafia? They're allies and she wanted out. From the town's perspective? Well, derp derp, Korynne was trying to kill them until the very end. Why bother switching if she originally wanted 9 gone? Because someone would 'out' themselves as mafia by vote switching? Well, she specifically mentions that she acted to prevent chez from acting, which means her entire system of logic is built on excuses.

Look at the vote history. There was a huge swing away from team 7 onto 9. 2 only got put into the lead because a far stronger wagon derailed and there wasn't enough time to switch onto 9. That isn't a town 'plan' like korynne's trying to defend.

The move makes literally 0 sense from a town perspective if she thought 9 was a fantastic target.

What's most likely is the following; Korynne is mafia and knows that neither of the teams are mafia. In splitting her/radfields focus she allows herself to distance from the push against an innnocent team, and she can put her almost abstain status vote in a sort of quasi-explained limbo.

What's more? The method of argumentation she uses pre-supposes that 9 is innocent. Well why the fuck did you+radfield push them if you thought they were green?


This for instance strikes me as a way L's demeanor helps him. I would never make this kind of post on a team I was about to kill. But again maybe L has some convoluted scheme revolving around he knew what he was doing then, planned on killing korynne, and then assuming someone would pick up it later, and take it as a evidence of him not being scum.


Hard as it is to believe, this actually makes me less suspicious of L. In a mafia game, it's not very common for scum to kill people they are arguing with, as that can cast suspicion on them, and L, despite his playstyle I don't agree with, has to know this. Especially since he's acting alone at this point, it can't have been his teammate(s) being dumb, so it's difficult to continue pointing FOS at him. He's not cleared in my book, but he definitely looks a bit less suspicious.

Let's look at other teams:

Team 1: dead :'(

Team 2: dead ><

Team 3: bumatlarge has produced some diamonds of quality and a small ocean of spam. LaXer is playing like I do: probably not posting as much as he should, but trying to make each post count. bum is having a fatty argument with L right now, which could be something to look at.

Team 4: I'm a bit confused as to why they didn't die either. Maybe mafia is concerned there might be a medic in the game, and tried to hit someone they thought a less likely target? Probably not true, considering Radfield is the most likely target in the game, so if medic exists he's dumb. Either way, back to them: pro-town, most people seem to think so, I agree, moving on.

Team 5: The "new" team (Yellow's second game, Durak's first), but they've proven themselves to be pretty talented so far. Some solid analysis coming out of Durak, a couple holes in their logic as a whole but nothing particularly scummy. Again, they've had a little spat with L (both of them, not just one element of their team), so that might be worth checking into.

Team 6: L is annoying, but as I said above, I'm less suspicious of him following night 1. I'm still keeping an eye on him.

Team 7: Still waaaaay too inactive. I don't want to lynch an inactive just for inactivity though. Here's hoping they post more.

Team 8: Someone else gotta do the analysis here

Team 9: Here's the team I'm now a little concerned about. Divinek had a LOT of posts day 1, but very little content to them, and it looked more like he was trying to establish himself as an active player, WITHOUT actually adding anything to the town discussion. That's disturbing to me. DCLXVI I have barely seen at all, except for a few posts targeting Korynne... He wanted her lynched, and she wanted him lynched. Now she is dead. Unlike L, I don't think Team 9 would have the experience to hold back on killing someone they'd had a public argument in the thread with...

It's a little shaky, but I think Team 9 looks the most suspicious to me right now.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 25 2010 20:04 GMT
#659
On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote:
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On June 26 2010 01:53 BrownBear wrote:
Team 9: Here's the team I'm now a little concerned about. Divinek had a LOT of posts day 1, but very little content to them, and it looked more like he was trying to establish himself as an active player, WITHOUT actually adding anything to the town discussion. That's disturbing to me. DCLXVI I have barely seen at all, except for a few posts targeting Korynne... He wanted her lynched, and she wanted him lynched. Now she is dead. Unlike L, I don't think Team 9 would have the experience to hold back on killing someone they'd had a public argument in the thread with...

It's a little shaky, but I think Team 9 looks the most suspicious to me right now.

Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that...
If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed.
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.


Well, that's the thing: Ive played with L before, and I know he knows how stuff like this works. I haven't really played with either of you ever, so I have no clue if you would know whether that's an obvious scumtell or not. It's pretty soft evidence, thats why I didn't outright accuse you: I'm just saying that your voting pattern, posting patterns, and the game events make you somewhat suspicious. Not scummy, just suspicious.

As for your logic behind the Team 4 vs L thing... The thing is, both L and Team 4 had arguments with Team 2... and I'm reasonably sure L is smart enough to not ragekill them, and I know for sure that Ace and DTA are smart enough to not ragekill them. Thus, I'm not really looking at those arguments as saying anything, other than Team 4 and Team L look less suspicious. That said, DTA is a masterful player, and can easily appear clean when he isn't. This doesn't mean I'm accusing him at all ( <3 you DTA :3 ) but I am watching him closer than I would a newbie.

(what, me, sore about last game? Nevar! :D)

I still think you and Divinek need to step up and look less suspicious, though. There is not much to go on for this day, so even appearing suspicious can be deadly.

And Team 7 needs to step the fuck up, seriously.
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BrownBear
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June 25 2010 20:59 GMT
#661
On June 26 2010 05:11 bumatlarge wrote:
I hear what you're saying yellow, and expected it ( in a good way). I agree on alot of what you say, but I personally have been a bit more of a town vibe from T9 based on posting. Most of the inactive teams are still too vague to judge by votes.

Inactivity is still a problem and probably will be through the game, but any thoughts on team 4? Im sure you have some opinions of darth after the other game. He seems to state that his posting wold be exactly the same whether hes mafia or town. I know you were in pm contact for a bit and trusted what he had said for the most part. Your word would outclass mine in this regard. I know yo generally feel that game was a bit nooby, but I doubt you let that distrupt your messages to darth.


We can't say "OMG Darth looks pro town he must be scum" because there's a 5 in 7 chance that he actually IS town, and is trying to post helpful, pro-town stuff. We can watch him, but remember - past games have absolutely no bearing on the present game. Playstyles continue, teams do not.

Like I said just above - I'm watching Darth closely, because it's true, he's incredibly good at playing scum. But we have to stop short from outright accusing DTA until we actually have evidence to go on.
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BrownBear
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June 25 2010 22:09 GMT
#663
Preview, man, preview! Use it!

Also, LaXer has been dropping off in quality since I posted that. At the time I posted, he'd been a little better at actually using his posts for something. Hopefully he'll step it back up, otherwise I'll have to take a second look at him.

And 1 and 2? What? I am confused. It's really difficult to read your post.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 00:48 GMT
#669
Ace: I'm really not sure where bumatlarge got that opinion... he's made other logic leaps in the thread too, though, so it's not that out of the ordinary. I guess he's convinced that somehow, lynching you will tell us something? I'm not really sure.

My vote is going to team 9 at the moment. It could change later if they make themselves less suspicious, but I might as well vote now, just in case something comes up and I forget later.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 00:48 GMT
#670
Oh, and I'm still waiting on Nikon to explain himself... his post makes no sense to me, which is a problem since it concerns me.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 00:56 GMT
#672
Your post-game trolling amuses me.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 01:56 GMT
#681
L vs. Ace is hilarious. I'm rereading this argument, and I think everyone should do the same, because while it easily could be two paranoid townies throwing mud at each other, there could be some very real stuff in here to look at.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 05:17 GMT
#710
L. My vote is on you. Come out with better reasons why Ace is scum or it stays there.

Ace. If L isn't scum, I'm voting for you, sorry bro.

Everyone else: reread and make your own decisions.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 06:31 GMT
#716
This argument has officially just degenerated into lulz.

Out for the night, cya guys.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 19:34 GMT
#730
Since Nikon doesn't think my posts are worth reading, apparently, I'm going to ask one more time, and he has until his next post to answer me before I change my vote to him.

Nikon - please explain exactly where I can't distinguish between 1 and 2. You really have to answer people's questions if you don't want to appear scummy.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 22:44 GMT
#740
On June 27 2010 06:44 Nikon wrote:
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On June 27 2010 02:08 LaXerCannon wrote:
On June 26 2010 23:29 Nikon wrote:
I didn't miss that post, do you think I'm stupid or something? Your posts hold even less value than mine and you have the audacity to stand before these people and accuse me of... what? Killing Murray? Is that it?


I've said nothing along the lines In fact, my "attack" was nothing more of my thoughts on your post and nothing more. If you notice, I refrained from posting a conclusion so as to not slight you or your obvious pride. In fact, you stand accusing me of accusing you while if you notice, I have done nothing of the sort.

Perhaps I can reply to your post with some substance if you actually create an argument.


Re-read your post then, if your stated opinions do not constitute an attack, I'm Roger Rabbit.

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On June 27 2010 04:34 BrownBear wrote:
Since Nikon doesn't think my posts are worth reading, apparently, I'm going to ask one more time, and he has until his next post to answer me before I change my vote to him.

Nikon - please explain exactly where I can't distinguish between 1 and 2. You really have to answer people's questions if you don't want to appear scummy.


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On June 26 2010 05:04 BrownBear wrote:
Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that...
If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed.
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.


It was about this snippet - how is ragekilling team 2 even remotely relevant when they got lynched?

I hope you guys are online right now, there's loads of fun to be had.


Dear god you are dumb. I never wrote that.
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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 22:45 GMT
#741
On June 27 2010 07:10 Nikon wrote:
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On June 27 2010 07:01 DCLXVI wrote:
On June 27 2010 06:44 Nikon wrote:

On June 27 2010 04:34 BrownBear wrote:
Since Nikon doesn't think my posts are worth reading, apparently, I'm going to ask one more time, and he has until his next post to answer me before I change my vote to him.

Nikon - please explain exactly where I can't distinguish between 1 and 2. You really have to answer people's questions if you don't want to appear scummy.


On June 26 2010 05:04 BrownBear wrote:
Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that...
If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed.
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.


It was about this snippet - how is ragekilling team 2 even remotely relevant when they got lynched?

I hope you guys are online right now, there's loads of fun to be had.

LOL I wrote that not BB (even if - scummy team 9)

Catching up on the thread nowish post more late, just wanted to point out this obvious JEEP if thats what you call it


Good catch, I chopped the quote wrong - I meant to include the bolded text from this one here:

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On June 26 2010 05:04 BrownBear wrote:
On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote:
On June 26 2010 01:53 BrownBear wrote:
Team 9: Here's the team I'm now a little concerned about. Divinek had a LOT of posts day 1, but very little content to them, and it looked more like he was trying to establish himself as an active player, WITHOUT actually adding anything to the town discussion. That's disturbing to me. DCLXVI I have barely seen at all, except for a few posts targeting Korynne... He wanted her lynched, and she wanted him lynched. Now she is dead. Unlike L, I don't think Team 9 would have the experience to hold back on killing someone they'd had a public argument in the thread with...

It's a little shaky, but I think Team 9 looks the most suspicious to me right now.

Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that...
If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed.
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.


Well, that's the thing: Ive played with L before, and I know he knows how stuff like this works. I haven't really played with either of you ever, so I have no clue if you would know whether that's an obvious scumtell or not. It's pretty soft evidence, thats why I didn't outright accuse you: I'm just saying that your voting pattern, posting patterns, and the game events make you somewhat suspicious. Not scummy, just suspicious.

As for your logic behind the Team 4 vs L thing... The thing is, both L and Team 4 had arguments with Team 2... and I'm reasonably sure L is smart enough to not ragekill them, and I know for sure that Ace and DTA are smart enough to not ragekill them. Thus, I'm not really looking at those arguments as saying anything, other than Team 4 and Team L look less suspicious. That said, DTA is a masterful player, and can easily appear clean when he isn't. This doesn't mean I'm accusing him at all ( <3 you DTA :3 ) but I am watching him closer than I would a newbie.

(what, me, sore about last game? Nevar! :D)

I still think you and Divinek need to step up and look less suspicious, though. There is not much to go on for this day, so even appearing suspicious can be deadly.

And Team 7 needs to step the fuck up, seriously.


Oh, you meant this quote. Ok, yeah. I can't distinguish between 1 and 2. I are dumb

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BrownBear
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June 26 2010 22:45 GMT
#742
Waaaah formatting what. You get the gist of it.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 00:28 GMT
#745
Similar to what Y-Izzle said... where is my team why have you not voted guys...

Am I the only active one left?
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 00:49 GMT
#748
On June 27 2010 09:38 DarthThienAn wrote:
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On June 27 2010 08:49 DCLXVI wrote:
I want to see L and ace argue for another day. I would love to see them both be mafia, but I doubt it. putting my vote on 7 for now for inactivity. Bad reason, but w/e.


To generate some discussion, what do we think of this?


Either he's like me, and is just amused by the arguing/flaming at this point, or he actually hasn't formed an opinion yet...?

At this point in the game, saying something is a bad reason "but w/e" is absolutely inexcusable. Also, team 7 has been mildly active recently (even if it's only defending themselves), so he's not only inexcusably using shitty logic while acknowledging it's shitty, he's also completely and utterly wrong.

This seems to me just like a trash post to justify a fairly random vote, and to mask the fact that he hasn't read the thread and probably isn't going to.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 00:51 GMT
#749
Although, DTA, I'd LOVE to see your opinion on it too, please. It's cool that you're trying to start discussion and all, but why not start it off by discussing it yourself?
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 01:22 GMT
#755
Yass, agreed DTA :D I'm not sure it's scummy yet simply because it's way too obvious of a mistake for a mafia player to make... mostly be just holding DCLXVI to a higher standard of play than that. I wouldn't be that surprised if he were though.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 01:25 GMT
#759
I'm going back to voting for Team 9, mostly since L has been a lot more active and has actually posted quality, and I'm still worried that Ace and L could both be town, which would spell doom for us, whereas the more Team 9 posts, the more I'm convinced they are scum.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 01:28 GMT
#760
And where the FUCK is everyone. Inactivity could kill this game.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 01:37 GMT
#762
On June 27 2010 10:31 DCLXVI wrote:
wow I didn't realize throwing my vote on an inactive team to make sure I wouldn't get modkilled would look so scummy. I suppose I should have said that, but you guys seem to love last minute bandwagoning T9...


Look at the voting thread. 3 votes for team 7, one vote for team 9.

Please stop blatantly lying.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 01:48 GMT
#771
On June 27 2010 10:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
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On June 27 2010 10:28 BrownBear wrote:
And where the FUCK is everyone. Inactivity could kill this game.


Every reply to L takes a minimum of 10 minutes. No joke :p.


Yeah, and that's awesome. But 5 out of 15 people haven't voted yet, unless my math is off.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 02:13 GMT
#789
On June 27 2010 11:09 DCLXVI wrote:
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On June 27 2010 11:01 L wrote:
On June 27 2010 10:58 DCLXVI wrote:
there goes the game for you guys. GLHF

If you're fo-real, next game post less trash.

nah man
after I play enough games this scummy eventually everyone will assume I am just a bad townie and then I can play the perfect mafia. Scummy yet never suspected.


I cant decide whether this is terrible or the best idea ever :D
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 02:40 GMT
#796
Out for dinner, will be back later, probably after the post is up and the dust settles. Peace out, Team 9.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 04:25 GMT
#808
Wat. Where were you???

Vote quickly, flame might have intentionally not showed up to extend voting period to get more active people in!
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 04:34 GMT
#809
Where is flame, btw? He's posted in other threads...
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 06:15 GMT
#813
Either we messed up our daycount, or something is seriously wrong.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 18:03 GMT
#822
AWESOME.

It's by number of teams, btw, not number of players, so even if the mafia happens to be the two 2-player teams, we'd still be alive. At least, I think that's how it works.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 18:14 GMT
#824
So, now we are in this wonderful state we like to call LYLO, as in, Lynch or Lose. Unless a highly awesome thing happens (there happens to be a medic in the game, and he happens to protect the right person tonight, and he happens to not get roleblocked), we are going into tomorrow with 3 town, 2 mafia. We miss a lynch from this point out, and it's game over.

So, with that in mind, let's look at who's left in the game...

Team 3: 2 people still (LaXerCannon and bumatlarge)
Team 4: 2 people (Ace and DTA
Team 5: YellowInk
Team 6: L
Team 7: 2 people (Nikon and Meeple
Team 8: Me all by my lonesome T_T

Friggin inactive teammates... I have the gimpest of the gimp votes now, because I now have only 2 votes to everyone else's 3. This sucks. Moving on...

By the time the night is over, I'd like to see everyone analyze the team ABOVE them on this list (so team 3 analyzes me, I analyze team 7, etc. etc.) gogogogogogogo.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 18:14 GMT
#825
On June 28 2010 03:08 L wrote:
If mafia control the lynch numerically, it doesn't fucking matter how many teams are left.


Shit son, you are correct.
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BrownBear
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June 27 2010 18:38 GMT
#826
TEAM 7: Nikon, zyrre (smote), meeple

A quick overview
-The most inactive team still left in the game.
-Only posts, and I mean ONLY posts, when their integrity or inactivity is called into question.

Now, in most games, this alone would be grounds for a lynch. However, given the gravity of the situation, we should look deeper.

Pages 1-29 or so: almost NOTHING of substance. Like seriously. They didn't even have to post to get out of being lynched thanks to BM-Chez playing the retard card and getting lynched for it. Definitely sets themselves up to be standard lurker team, contributing almost nothing. Interestingly, zyrre was slightly more active, but he's now dead.

Page 31: Zyrre agrees with Ace against L - looks good for L, bad for Ace, given the way I'm leaning on this team.

Page 33: Nikon posts this:
On June 26 2010 03:27 Nikon wrote:
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On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote:
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.


Unless he just got them out of the way so they won't argue with his posts later on. I don't know why supporting a scummy team would be a good thing in your book.


Well, in this case, DCL actually had pretty good logic. It is pretty rare that mafia gets modkilled, even more so if the mafia is someone like Caller. Caller getting mafia is just an epic excuse for him to troll, you have to think he'd jump at the chance. I think that modkills make it less likely that a team has a blue/red role, at least in this game, because the addition of something else to do/the feeling of power for having a blue/red role tends to make people more active (sure, mafia try to lurk all the time, but they also tend to post just enough to avoid modkills).

Secondly, why would L push for killing Team 1 right after having an argument with them? L knows that if there's a public argument in a thread, and then one party in that argument dies, the other party tends to get lynched for "shutting up" the other person. It's a pretty weak reason to lynch someone, because mafia knows about it too and will lynch one half of a townie argument to throw suspicion on the other townie. I don't buy L double-faking us out like that.

So Nikon's logic is flawed, let's see if meeple has anything to say.

In between, zyrre has some excellent analysis going, and some decent quality posts, but most of it was what had already been said before, so he actually wasn't that helpful. I guess he got modkilled for failure to vote, which sucks. Back to meeple...

meeple...

Apparently did not post in the thread the entirety of Day 2. Looking at the voting thread, looks like he didn't vote either.

Wut? How is he not modkilled?


Summary: Zyrre was the only part of this team that had somewhat ok logic, and he is dead, and even he was pretty inactive and unhelpful, preferring to only say what had been sad before. Nikon is kind of fail at a) staying alive, b) posting things of substance, and c) provoking any meaningful discussion.

I'm starting to get a scum read here.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 01:35 GMT
#843
Guys. Shut the hell up.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 01:41 GMT
#845
Like, actually? You guys have said absolutely everything possible about each other. Now all you two are doing is mudslinging, which absolutely does not help us at all.

We're in LYLO. We need careful, detailed analysis on EVERYONE, not just one or two people, and if you two bury the entire thread in a long drawn-out argument, like you did yesterday, we're not gonna get that. So unless you two are mafia and actively trying to stop town discussion from happening, just shut the hell up, and talk about some other people for once.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 01:57 GMT
#848
On June 28 2010 10:50 L wrote:
To be rather frank, I'm pretty sure letting their team control 2 lynches and having both of them come up town is pretty conclusive that they're mafia.

I'd rather have this shit said now than get offed and let Ace cruise off the back of a terrible town to victory.


If you really think Ace is mafia, you should know that him offing you is really dumb.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 01:59 GMT
#849
Honestly, at this point I'm really inclined to assume that both of you are just town, and mafia has been laughing their asses off at the last couple of days.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:02 GMT
#851
On June 28 2010 10:46 Ace wrote:
calm yourself. What are you getting at? If we both think the other is certainly scum and we might hit LyLo then no shit we're going to try and off the other. Why would we even try to go after someone were even less certain of? Explain yourself.


It's not that I don't want you to off someone you think is mafia. There are 2 mafia in the game though. If you saw my earlier post, I want everyone to analyze someone in a list, which you haven't done yet. Neither of you has.

Pushing for someone who you are convinced is mafia is totally fine, but there is a limit, and we have to be thinking for the future, assuming there is one. So you both have made your argument, you can just vote on each other, and maybe analyze who you think the second mafia is.

If you still want to compete for votes, here you go: I'll place my vote aligned with whoever I think contributes more to the town by analyzing other people and posting quality shit today.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:04 GMT
#854
On June 28 2010 11:04 LaXerCannon wrote:
I'm siding with L on this


Explain why pls.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:05 GMT
#855
On June 28 2010 11:03 Ace wrote:
whatever, you do that then. I'll deal with the second scum team after L is dead and gone.


Your narrowmindedness on this is whats gotten us into trouble in the first place. Can't you just spend ONE POST to analyze team 3 today? It won't kill you.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:08 GMT
#861
oh. nevermind then.

Well, I was medic, for what it's worth.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:10 GMT
#866
Yeah, here's what went down for Team medic:

Day 1, we lynched Team 2 (fail)
Night 1, we protected Team 4 (extra fail)
Day 2, we lynched Team 9 (f-f-f-fail), and 2/3 of the team decided to go AWOL
Night 2, we protected Team L, but that didn't seem to make that much of a difference.

So yeah. All the modkills Day 2 murdered Town stone cold dead.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:11 GMT
#869
And yeah... fuck. Should have protected Team 3, my bad.

For what it was worth, I was convinced Team 4 was town until the last page, when Ace's stubbornness made me start to wonder.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:13 GMT
#874
And yeah... LaXer, would have been awesome to know that at the beginning of the night. Still, the majority of the blame lies with me for being retarded and not protecting Team 3 (I was gonna protect Team 4 until Ace finally pissed me off too much).
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:13 GMT
#876
On June 28 2010 11:12 YellowInk wrote:
This game was full of fail. Modkill game wtf???

I look forward to postgame discussion. Do we want to do it in IRC?


Yeah, which channel?
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:16 GMT
#882
On June 28 2010 11:15 Ace wrote:
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On June 28 2010 11:11 BrownBear wrote:
And yeah... fuck. Should have protected Team 3, my bad.

For what it was worth, I was convinced Team 4 was town until the last page, when Ace's stubbornness made me start to wonder.


I was taunting you lololololololololol.

I could write a book as to how to dupe the town. There were so many bad bad bad logic leaps and arguments this game. Jeezus christ.


You bastard
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 02:24 GMT
#889
Yeah, I let the thread get the better of me. I was convinced one of Ace and L were gonna murder each other out of rage.

First time playing medic, so don't rag on me too much plz.
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BrownBear
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June 28 2010 03:32 GMT
#896
MVP: Team 4
LVP: BrownBear
Carcinogeneticist: Team 2
Radfield Jr. Team 1
Hangover: BumCannon
Angrybear: Korynne
Korynne: Yink



And now, I present to you:

THE BEARIES!!!
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(please note: Bearies are lighthearted trophies I decided to give out because I felt like it. No insult or emotional distress is intended by the Bearies. If you are insulted by a Bearie, it is probably because you are angry and/or neoconservative and/or German, and hate web 2.0 )


Fun awards I thought I'd give out to players for their different accomplishments in this game. It was a ton of fun, and I didn't want it to end without at least some recognition for some players, so without further ado...

THE BIG GOLDEN BEARIE: For most valuable player (name credit goes to L)

Goes to Team 4!!! Team 4 absolutely packed town's shit this game. They passed themselves off as extremely pro-town, while simultaneously stopping all discussion via his long, drawn out, exceptionally well done argument with L. He kept me convinced he was mafia until the last possible second, when it didn't matter anyway. GG

THE RADFIELD JR. BEARIE: For most hard luck townie

Goes to Team 1! Radfield finally won his own bearie, getting predictably shot on night 1, while Korynne also gets nailed by the curse of the Radfield. She was so excited to play in her own setup too T_T

THE CARCINOGENETICIST BEARIE: For the best troll (Someday someone will get this reference, I swear)

Goes to Team 2! Team 2 had oh so much fun spamming the thread. The fake medic claim was hilarious, especially to the real medic (me). The morse code misdirected everyone. Even after death, Bill Murray still had fun in the thread, calling POLICY POLICE on Ace, then later on posting "8 MINUTES TO GO" (in the wrong thread), and causing us all to freak out, if only for a moment. Classy, and classic.

SPECIAL AWARD: THE IDRABACON "FUCKING SKILLESS NOOBIE" BEARIE: For most boneheaded townie

Goes to me T_T

Actually, lets let this be a teaching moment. At night 2, there were still 6 teams in the game. The aggregate voting power, spread out amongst these teams, was 23. Mafia still had 3 players in the game (Ace, DTA, and YellowInk) and controlled 9 or these 23 votes.

There were 3 2-person teams left: Ace/DTA (mafia), Nikon and meeple (town, 4 votes), and bumatlarge/LaXer (town, 6 votes). Mafia needs only to knock off 5 votes to end the game in a victory for them.

As medic, I had two options to ensure that no matter what, mafia wouldn't end the game: protect Team 4 or Team 3. I started off protecting Team 4. Now, as the night wore on, and Ace started being a stubborn prick in the thread, I started rereading what he posted, and came to the conclusion that he was actually mafia.

Logically, what I should have done then was switch my vote over to Team 3, thus ensuring that at best nobody would die, and at worst town would still have enough voting power to potentially win. Inexcusably, though, I read "oh shit, Ace is mafia" in the thread, then chose to protect L.

Yep. I protected 3-vote L instead of 6-vote team 3. I had the balance of the game in my hands and I blew it. Hurp Derp.

This is me:
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This lesson applies to other mafia games as well, not just ones set up like this. In a LYLO situation where there is a mayor and a medic, ALWAYS protect the mayor. His 3 votes will swing the balance of the game between victory and defeat. Don't let the thread get the better of you, if you are medic, ALWAYS look at shit like this before you decide to protect. It could end up saving the game.

THE "I WAS HUNGOVER AND MISSED THE GAME" BEARIE: For the other team that dropped the ball

Goes to Team 3, I'm afraid. Team 3 had gotten back a mafia rolecheck on Team 4 on day 2. Logically, in a LYLO situation, you would roleclaim in the thread, ask for medic protection, and hopefully survive long enough to lynch the mafia. If this had happened, 3 things would have happened:

I wouldn't have failed, and would have protected him.
Team 4 would have been lynched
Town would probably have won.

Sadly, LaXer was at a party. And bum was nowhere to be seen. Thus, this golden opportunity was missed, and town suffered.

THE ANGRY BEARIE: For most rage

Goes to Korynne Sorry dude. I fucked up. Sorry I couldn't bring it home for you.

THE KORYNNE BEARIE: For the best rookie

This one is hard. Originally, I was going to give it to Durak, because he tried very hard and actually posted some good stuff. Sadly, he got modkilled on Day 2, thus disqualifying himself for this bearie (modkills are an auto-disqualify for any of the bearies given out for playing well). Thus, with no other rookies in the game, this bearie will go to YellowInk again, despite it being technically his second game :D GJ Yellow, you played very well and I never suspected you as mafia!

That's all for this time folks! GG all, it was fun, see you next game!
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 28 2010 03:38 GMT
#897
On June 28 2010 12:32 BrownBear wrote:
MVP: Team 4
LVP: BrownBear
Carcinogeneticist: Team 2
Radfield Jr. Team 1
Hangover: BumCannon
Angrybear: Korynne
Korynne: Yink



And now, I present to you:

THE BEARIES!!!
[image loading]
(please note: Bearies are lighthearted trophies I decided to give out because I felt like it. No insult or emotional distress is intended by the Bearies. If you are insulted by a Bearie, it is probably because you are angry and/or neoconservative and/or German, and hate web 2.0 )


Fun awards I thought I'd give out to players for their different accomplishments in this game. It was a ton of fun, and I didn't want it to end without at least some recognition for some players, so without further ado...

THE BIG GOLDEN BEARIE: For most valuable player (name credit goes to L)

Goes to Team 4!!! Team 4 absolutely packed town's shit this game. They passed themselves off as extremely pro-town, while simultaneously stopping all discussion via his long, drawn out, exceptionally well done argument with L. He kept me convinced he was mafia until the last possible second, when it didn't matter anyway. GG

THE RADFIELD JR. BEARIE: For most hard luck townie

Goes to Team 1! Radfield finally won his own bearie, getting predictably shot on night 1, while Korynne also gets nailed by the curse of the Radfield. She was so excited to play in her own setup too T_T

THE CARCINOGENETICIST BEARIE: For the best troll (Someday someone will get this reference, I swear)

Goes to Team 2! Team 2 had oh so much fun spamming the thread. The fake medic claim was hilarious, especially to the real medic (me). The morse code misdirected everyone. Even after death, Bill Murray still had fun in the thread, calling POLICY POLICE on Ace, then later on posting "8 MINUTES TO GO" (in the wrong thread), and causing us all to freak out, if only for a moment. Classy, and classic.

SPECIAL AWARD: THE IDRABACON "FUCKING SKILLESS NOOBIE" BEARIE: For most boneheaded townie

Goes to me T_T

Actually, lets let this be a teaching moment. At night 2, there were still 6 teams in the game. The aggregate voting power, spread out amongst these teams, was 23. Mafia still had 3 players in the game (Ace, DTA, and YellowInk) and controlled 9 or these 23 votes.

There were 3 2-person teams left: Ace/DTA (mafia), Nikon and meeple (town, 4 votes), and bumatlarge/LaXer (town, 6 votes). Mafia needs only to knock off 5 votes to end the game in a victory for them.

As medic, I had two options to ensure that no matter what, mafia wouldn't end the game: protect Team 4 or Team 3. I started off protecting Team 4. Now, as the night wore on, and Ace started being a stubborn prick in the thread, I started rereading what he posted, and came to the conclusion that he was actually mafia.

Logically, what I should have done then was switch my vote over to Team 3, thus ensuring that at best nobody would die, and at worst town would still have enough voting power to potentially win. Inexcusably, though, I read "oh shit, Ace is mafia" in the thread, then chose to protect L.

Yep. I protected 3-vote L instead of 6-vote team 3. I had the balance of the game in my hands and I blew it. Hurp Derp.

This is me:
[image loading]


This lesson applies to other mafia games as well, not just ones set up like this. In a LYLO situation where there is a mayor and a medic, ALWAYS protect the mayor. His 3 votes will swing the balance of the game between victory and defeat. Don't let the thread get the better of you, if you are medic, ALWAYS look at shit like this before you decide to protect. It could end up saving the game.

THE "I WAS HUNGOVER AND MISSED THE GAME" BEARIE: For the other team that dropped the ball

Goes to Team 3, I'm afraid. Team 3 had gotten back a mafia rolecheck on Team 4 on day 2. Logically, in a LYLO situation, you would roleclaim in the thread, ask for medic protection, and hopefully survive long enough to lynch the mafia. If this had happened, 3 things would have happened:

I wouldn't have failed, and would have protected him.
Team 4 would have been lynched
Town would probably have won.

Sadly, LaXer was at a party. And bum was nowhere to be seen. Thus, this golden opportunity was missed, and town suffered.

THE ANGRY BEARIE: For most rage

Goes to Korynne I fucked up. Sorry I couldn't bring it home for you.

THE KORYNNE BEARIE: For the best rookie

This one is hard. Originally, I was going to give it to Durak, because he tried very hard and actually posted some good stuff. Sadly, he got modkilled on Day 2, thus disqualifying himself for this bearie (modkills are an auto-disqualify for any of the bearies given out for playing well). Thus, with no other rookies in the game, this bearie will go to YellowInk again, despite it being technically his second game :D GJ Yellow, you played very well and I never suspected you as mafia!

That's all for this time folks! GG all, it was fun, see you next game!

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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
June 28 2010 03:38 GMT
#898
Oh shit. That was quote, not edit.
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