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I changed my opinion about TheGilaBoy a while ago, but I haven't state my reason. So I will do it now.
The picture on the TheGilaBoy is a dt. Of course that will make him an easy mafia target. I don't think it is fair just to say dt=assassin.
The suspicion of TheGilaBoy comes from the death of ElyAs: 1)The "hastily constructed barricades" reference to "Twilight Fortress" in TheGilaBoys' profile is irrelevant since "hastily constructed barricades" refers to other townies constructing their home.
2)Someone already mentioned that ElyAs was out ran by the killer. Dark Templar is not known for its speed.
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pyr0ma5ta, you say that people voting based on their sleep schedules and time zones. I disagree with that statement.
Most of the players here are from North America and their votings are spread out across the voting period. And it is such a coincidence that four players who voted late on one day, voted early when one of them is in danger of being the lynch target.
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LaXerCannon, so your reason for lynching TheGilaBoy is based on:
1)Thegilaboys has a reference of winning Twilight Fortress with Dark Templars. Hastily built barricades refers to Twilight Fortress. And ElyAs is killed in a town (the map Twilight Fortress. This is too far fetch
2)Now you think it is TheGilaBoys, the stalker who blink to beat ElyAs to the courthouse. Then this reason just disprove reason #1 about winning Twilight Fortress with Dark Templar. Also to point out that blink is a active move which requires cool off time (stalker can not out run a zealot) and blink doesn't move you too far.
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Again, i am not saying LaXer, CompX, you are mafia because your voting patterns. I am saying if DeuceGladlier turns out to be mafia, you guys will be our next lead.
You have to agree that DeuceGladlier is a much better lynch target than TheGilaBoys.
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A masked figure followed him, and stealthily kept to the shadows, not letting ElyAs out of his sight. ElyAs moved quickly, breaking into a quick run, hoping to make it back home before he was overtaken. However, he was not to make it. As ElyAs passed by the town courthouse, he noticed that he had already been beaten--the masked figure was sitting on the steps. ElyAs gasped, but in an instant his life had been snuffed out, and the killer walked away with a bloodied knife.
So LaXer, you reasons for Lynching TheGilaBoys are: Stalker: Mask Figure. Stalker uses blink to beat EylAs to the court house.
I want to point out that ElyAs ran from the lynch location to the courthouse. We don't know the distance from the lynch location to the courthouse So further argues about it is useless.
Second, I want to point out that the killer use a knife for his crime. I do not think stalker has a knife and can use a knife to kill.
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LaXerCannon, okay. If you say that the TheGilaBoys use both quality of Stalker and DT for his crime then this is all I have to say. But you have to agree that combining the quality of both character is possible but not likely.
If you compare reasons for lynching TheGilaBoys (very questionable clues but also a more useful poster) to lynching Deucegladlier (inactive and horrible posters, voting behavior between LaXerCannon, pyr0ma5ta, CompX, and Deucegladlier).
If Deucegladlier can step up and do some explaining and maybe even contribute, otherwise I say lynching Deucegladlier is a better choice.
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On June 07 2010 11:56 LaXerCannon wrote: I am also waiting for Deucegladlier to step up and say something. If he doesn't, I'll maintain that he's innocent. If he's mafia he would step up in an attempt to defend himself. What kind of reason is that? Not saying anything=innocent Arguing his reasons=mafia
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On June 07 2010 12:01 LaXerCannon wrote: My reasoning is that if he doesn't defend himself he's probably green (he's bored of playing). It also depends on how he defends himself. (>__>) If you use this logic on mafia then you will have a hard time finding the mafia:
The town accuses someone of being mafia. That person does not respond therefore not mafia.
Do you know the reason why we lynch inactive on the first day? In the nature of mafia, those who are inactive tend to have a higher chance of being mafia.
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Deucegladlier would not be modkill if he meets the minimum posting requirement. Also, he haven't receive a warning yet which means he will not be mod killed anything soon.
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I don't think we should be suspicious of MTF at this point. MTF postings contribute a lot to the discussion.
Lying about the medic protection is very dumb if he is the mafia because role check would expose him. There is the possibility that he is the Godfather who is somewhat immune to the rolecheck but I don't think Godfather would want to take that risk especially so early in the game. If he is Godfather, I will give him the "balls of steel" award.
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AcrossFiveJuly, you have to accept that this is a mafia game for newer players and not everyone will be willing to keep up with the insane amount of reading.
I like to look at a poster's recent posts not just here but on Teamliquid. TyranoS_NiveK fits into the category of "I don't care about Teamliquid."
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On June 07 2010 20:53 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Then why are you so adamant about lynching deuce? He fits into that same category. Here are a few of your posts trying to get everyone to vote for deuce:
Deuce is not just a "I don't care about TL" guy. He makes somewhat decent posts on the damn K-pop forum. He knows how to embed youtube video and also have the time to find animated GIFs to post on the DAMN K-pop forum.
I hate k-pop in general because they are bad. And some are so bad, that they are good.
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Guys, I have a tight exam schedule now (I shouldn't even be playing yesterday TBH). But it ends tomorrow June 8, at 11 AM pacific.
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2 finals down and 1 to go. But the next test is an essay type final.
I feel that I have to say something since mass voting of lynching Deuce rallied after my massive arguments with LaXer and pryo (2 days temp ban=mod kill? I hope some exception can be made).
I don't like lynching active posters early (MooCow and TheGilaBoys). At least they are willing to stand up and explain the reasons why they are not mafia. These people benefits the town by generating conversation which is good for town. Also, by further accusing and explaining, more reasons of them being town or mafia will be exposed. Just look at the amount of rich analysis people did for (semi)active posters and it is only day 2. As we progress through the game, more analysis would be done and more clues for or against posters will be available. So, I think lynching MooCow or TheGilaBoys(dude needs to post more) can be delayed.
On the other hand, for Deuce, what do we know about him? Inactive, (retarded?) poster, some interests in the DAMN K-POP FORUM, and questionable link to CompX, LaXer, and pyro.
Even if we wait and don't lynch Deuce now. Will we get more information about him being mafia or not? Probably not. He refuses to post. His profile is one of the hardest to link to the clues.
Summary: MooCow and TheGilaBoys can wait because we are almost certain that more information about them will be generated as the game progress. But for Deuce, we have almost no chance of getting more information about him being town or mafia and therefore I want him to the end now and maybe if he turns mafia, there would be the link to LaXer, pryo, and compX that we can examine next.
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If Deuce turns mafia consider a bonus.
If Deuce is town, I want to apologies to LaXer and Pryo and will consider they 99.7% pro town. Also, then I am willing to take a more passive role and promise not to start another bandwagon (won't vote early but also won't vote too late).
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AcrossFiveJulys, you got to accept that even some veteran mafia players are "not as logical" than others.
I dare a mod make a game with L (dude always scares me) being Godfather, with Bill Murray and Abenson as his lackies.
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Votes for Day 2 Lynch
Votes for Thegilaboy (4) LaXerCannon pyr0ma5ta CompX bumatlarge
Votes for Deucegladlier (11) Deucegladlier YellowInk crate LunarDestiny littlechava Zyrre Thegilaboy MooCow deconduo Hugoboss21 MTF
Votes for MooCow (10) AcrossFiveJulys DCLXVI Misder BrownBear zeks sputnik.theory onihunter DarthThienAn (x3)
This is the optimistic outcome, 3 groups of voting the next person who switch would be very suspicious and a baller if he does it.
This information might prove very helpful in the future. I am so tempted to move now.
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I don't think anyone especially mafia would take the risk and change he vote now. But I am willing to do so. TBH, I didn't look up post from MOOCOW so...
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Ok. I don't think anyone is going to switch their votes. I didn't have the time to do research on MooCow and my agrument for Decus is lacking (I just don't don't want to lynch TheGilaBoy).
SO>>>
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Okay... what have I done. Please be good.
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