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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 02 2010 21:58 GMT
#621
I think killing blue roles is very important. In the game, there was never a time when the town has shortage in shooter.

I was very scared of blue role especially cop and watcher.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 02 2010 22:10 GMT
#622
The real problem was, L had a good plan, but then lost all his credibility by shooting one of the most active posters in the thread. Breadcrumbs or not, that was a terrible decision, and threw the town into chaos. Had L shot one of the more inactive players on Day 1, I think the game would have gone much differently.

This was a fun game to watch though, even though it was pretty sad from a town point of view. Well played Lunar Destiny, you did really well as the GF. Rest of the mafia did what they needed to do: keep their heads down. Amber[Light] got unlucky with both Nikon and tree.hugger, but both of those kills were justifiable.

GG All


One of these days I'm going to survive night one, and I'll probably get lynched day two as an obvious mafia due to the fact that I'm not dead yet....
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 22:12:43
June 02 2010 22:10 GMT
#623
On June 03 2010 06:58 LunarDestiny wrote:
I think killing blue roles is very important. In the game, there was never a time when the town has shortage in shooter.

I was very scared of blue role especially cop and watcher.


Blue roles can't shoot. Mafia can't shoot (except for the Godfather). Townies shoot people on the can't shoot list, because all (but one) of the anti-town players are on that list. If you try to shoot blues, you just make life easier for the town since they have less ppl they need to shoot. DT checks people on the can't shoot list, Watcher watches people on the can shoot list. Doctor tries to save people on the can shoot list. Mafia is pretty much forced to shoot people on the can shoot list, preferably those who have already taken shots. If the town is about to shoot a watcher/DT, they just spill their information.

All in all its a good plan except for catching the GF.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
June 02 2010 22:17 GMT
#624
hehe I knew Lunar was mafia (: I probably should have just shoot you Unlucky for me that you were the godfather ):
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 22:22:01
June 02 2010 22:20 GMT
#625
On June 03 2010 07:10 Radfield wrote:
The real problem was, L had a good plan, but then lost all his credibility by shooting one of the most active posters in the thread. Breadcrumbs or not, that was a terrible decision, and threw the town into chaos. Had L shot one of the more inactive players on Day 1, I think the game would have gone much differently.

This was a fun game to watch though, even though it was pretty sad from a town point of view. Well played Lunar Destiny, you did really well as the GF. Rest of the mafia did what they needed to do: keep their heads down. Amber[Light] got unlucky with both Nikon and tree.hugger, but both of those kills were justifiable.

GG All


One of these days I'm going to survive night one, and I'll probably get lynched day two as an obvious mafia due to the fact that I'm not dead yet....

Agreed. Nikkon for day two didn't help, but that was luck.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
June 02 2010 22:36 GMT
#626
Wait nvm theres only 12 can-shoots and 8 cant shoots. Along with the fact that its in SK's best interest to shoot can-shoots, 2 anti-town KP means 6 days to hit the can't-shoot list. Unless town gets lucky and hits the SK of course. Meh should be about even.

Of course theres an even better plan for the town to win, but I'll save that for myself in case I ever decide to play this format again.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 02 2010 22:40 GMT
#627
On June 03 2010 07:10 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 06:58 LunarDestiny wrote:
I think killing blue roles is very important. In the game, there was never a time when the town has shortage in shooter.

I was very scared of blue role especially cop and watcher.


Blue roles can't shoot. Mafia can't shoot (except for the Godfather). Townies shoot people on the can't shoot list, because all (but one) of the anti-town players are on that list. If you try to shoot blues, you just make life easier for the town since they have less ppl they need to shoot. DT checks people on the can't shoot list, Watcher watches people on the can shoot list. Doctor tries to save people on the can shoot list. Mafia is pretty much forced to shoot people on the can shoot list, preferably those who have already taken shots. If the town is about to shoot a watcher/DT, they just spill their information.

All in all its a good plan except for catching the GF.


when I set this up in the last game why didn't you say this? :D
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 22:42:53
June 02 2010 22:40 GMT
#628
On June 03 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 07:10 Incognito wrote:
On June 03 2010 06:58 LunarDestiny wrote:
I think killing blue roles is very important. In the game, there was never a time when the town has shortage in shooter.

I was very scared of blue role especially cop and watcher.


Blue roles can't shoot. Mafia can't shoot (except for the Godfather). Townies shoot people on the can't shoot list, because all (but one) of the anti-town players are on that list. If you try to shoot blues, you just make life easier for the town since they have less ppl they need to shoot. DT checks people on the can't shoot list, Watcher watches people on the can shoot list. Doctor tries to save people on the can shoot list. Mafia is pretty much forced to shoot people on the can shoot list, preferably those who have already taken shots. If the town is about to shoot a watcher/DT, they just spill their information.

All in all its a good plan except for catching the GF.


when I set this up in the last game why didn't you say this? :D


Because I was practically a confirmed townie. (Its more messy if you have it all public because mafia can lie about being able to shoot. They would get caught eventually, but its still slightly more dangerous acting in the open.)

*please do use this same exact setup again so town can own next time*
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 02 2010 23:00 GMT
#629
We did consider claiming can shoot... then DT or bomber if called upon to shoot. Enough questions were raised against L's plan by townies to make that unnecessary.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
June 02 2010 23:19 GMT
#630
i did a lot lol
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 02 2010 23:19 GMT
#631
Lol, I keep telling the guys to stay calm and don't do anything if they aren't against the wall. Thankfully, there is always someone who shifts the focus on something else and we got away many times.
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
June 02 2010 23:21 GMT
#632
If L shot anybody besides Korynne that first day this game would've been a lot different I think.
That, and I regret that I was so inactive this game.

GG. WP by mafia, esp. LD.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 02 2010 23:56 GMT
#633
On June 03 2010 06:32 citi.zen wrote:
Once L put you on his red list, you were high profile for everyone. We knew L was pretty accurate picking red roles.

In the end we switched and picked Chez, hoping to slowly kill the active/veteran players to make life easier late game.


Yeah, I don't even know why I was on L's redlist =[. Maybe cuz I did the old active -> inactive thing, but that was just real life, and I do that like every game lolol.
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
June 03 2010 00:47 GMT
#634
well, atleast I managed to convince the mafia that I could shoot.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 03 2010 00:52 GMT
#635
Vivi, you actually helped me narrow down that you are not the SK (remember that list you plea that the SK would follow for the night kill?)

Also, I had you listed as a townie (vanilla or cop). And it was very lucky for the mafia that you turned out to be the cop since a rolecheck on any mafia member would cause a lot of trouble.

Yeah, mafia got all the luck this game.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
June 03 2010 18:30 GMT
#636
On June 03 2010 03:24 Ace wrote:
Day 4

[image loading]


Tree.hugger (Serial Killer) has been shot.

GAME OVER! MAFIA WIN!

+ Show Spoiler [Roles/Action list] +


Godfather (LunarDestiny)
Roleblocker (TwoToneTerran)
Scum (johnnyspazz)
Scum (citi.zen)
SK (tree.hugger)
Bomberman (~OpZ~)
Cop(Sane) (Vivi57)
Doctor(normal) (Radfield)
Watcher (Nikon)
Towny(Miller) (Iaaan)
VT (LuDwig-)
VT (L)
VT (Xelin)
VT (ohN)
VT (Chezinu)
VT (Amber[Light])
VT (DarthTheienAn)
VT (BrownBear)
VT (Korynne)
VT (motbob)

Night 0:
Tree.hugger shoot Ludwig-
Nikon watches L
~opz~ places a bomb on ohn(phrase "being quiet")
Vivi checks L (innocent)
Radfield protects Xelin
TTT roleblocks Xelin
Mafia hits Radfield

Day 1:
L shoots Korynne

Night 1 actions:

tree.hugger shoots DarthTheInan
Vivi57 checks Amber(innocent)
Nikon watches Chezinu (citizen visits him)
~opz~ places bomb on TTT
Mafia hit Chezinu

Day 2:

Amber[light] shoots Nikon <------FACEPALM

Night 2:
tree.hugger shoots L
vivi checks tree.hugger (innocent)
~opz~ places bomb on Jspazz
Mafia shoot Xelin
TTT roleblocks motbob

Day 3:
LunarDestiny shoots Iaaan

Night 3:
tree.hugger kills ohn
Vivi checks ohn (innocent)
~opz~ places a bomb on LunarDestiny
TTT blocks opz
Mafia hit Vivi

Day 4:
Amber shoots tree.hugger

Game Over.



THAT's some BS...

-_- Only because TTT blocked me ><

omg...such bs
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 18:48:29
June 03 2010 18:31 GMT
#637
On June 03 2010 03:29 Korynne wrote:
Damn. So if OpZ got someone to say his word, then all 3 mafia would be dead. :o

Also if Nikon had like two minutes during the day then citi.zen would've been outted.

And town could've won. zOMG~

I blame L, him killing me caused the town to lose. =D

Yea, but I had to win by my bomb.

Am I good at mafia picking? I called Amber as the GF -_-....Only cuz I figured Iaaan and LunarDestiny were being morons. Sorry Amber...Your situation...just looked...crazy.

AND the mafia did change the kill off of darth (but they were killing him!)
Crazy.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
June 03 2010 18:34 GMT
#638
On June 03 2010 03:30 Ace wrote:
Well at 4-4 Mafia wins with no Docs to stop you, and no SK to shoot you. Only way to lose would be accidentally triggering the code word but that would be stupid for us to wait on that happening.

GG Mafia team. Town was once again screwed by impatience and not following logic. L's plan was pretty damn simple and easy to follow. The only mistake he made was shooting Korynne but it sure as hell wasn't even going to cost you the game. Imo the goal of this setup is just weeding out non-shooters and killing them asap.

Tree.hugger almost won also because he kept cracking confirmed shooters while only having to worry about being shot in the day by Lunar Destiny (GF). He had 3 of the mafia pinned but didn't make a case for them to be shot by the town, and would have needed to shoot LD this night to walk away with an almost guaranteed victory.

~Opz~ had some sick bomb placement but should have read the thread and used a better codeword ^_^. I think BM was maybe a bit underpowered.

I WOULD have had them say it

You should have just kept it going. I even told you "Mafia are too obvious"

I was just gonna ask why everyone was being so quiet "I'm being quiet because..." I was honestly gonna start a way with amber...And I intended to change the code last night.

P.s. I wasn't here the last day, (lost my job yesterday)
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
June 03 2010 18:42 GMT
#639
On June 03 2010 04:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
The Third Parties should just adopt new strategy (at least in custom setups): shoot for Mafia all the time instead of Town, definitely is optimal course of action if you assume that Town is going to fail.

I was fucking the mafia up on the constant.

-_-

I just couldn't day kill. Or really kill. Lol. See why I wanted compulsive vig?!
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 03 2010 19:55 GMT
#640
Like i said, the best codeword is

Kill: ~OpZ~

When you want your bomb to activate just spam F U.
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