Three Kingdoms Mafia (三国演义) - Page 2

On May 18 2010 06:57 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Not to be dumb or a mafia newbie (I am both) but does the game start with a lynching and then go to night?

On May 18 2010 07:41 Korynne wrote:
Not sure if Caller is into this (I didn't ask him), but I volunteer myself up for replacing inactives if hosts feel like not modkilling so much.

On May 18 2010 08:13 Scamp wrote:
I will vote for anyone who agrees to kill Hesmyrr.

On May 18 2010 22:59 XeliN wrote:
Also would like to know what happens if:

Someone is recruited into a faction, lets say the Blue one. Then the next night 2 of the other factions attempt to recruit the same person.

It seems fairly obvious that in such a case it would be cancelled out and they would stay blue but just to double check.

If a player is recruited by multiple faction leaders at the same time, they all cancel out.

On May 19 2010 03:17 Fishball wrote:
So do the players ever know which leader recruited them?
Do the leaders know what powers the players have when he/she recruited them?
Since enemy players can be recruited, that means a player can be "recruited" back and forth? If this is the case, is this game mainly a war among the 4 leaders and the rest are just chess pieces?

On May 19 2010 03:24 Fishball wrote:


Well, I posted here just so Caller can answer all these questions up front.
The answers will change a lot of things, and I have plenty of follow up questions to ask depending on the answers.

On May 19 2010 04:47 BrownBear wrote:


The way I see it, every night, 3 people are recruited to the 3 main factions, and one is recruited to the Yellow Turbans. Naturally, there will be some overlap, occasionally two factions will try to recruit the same person and bounce, that kind of thing, but for the most part this will hold true.

There are 24 people in the game, meaning that the pool of recruitable people is 20. The YT leader has a 3 in 20 chance of screwing up and getting his entire faction killed if he picks completely randomly, which he will not do, so it's fairly safe to say that he is not going to recruit a faction leader unless he gets very unlucky or reads someone completely wrong. Thus, the pool of potential recruits for each of the 3 main factions is going to decrease by 1 person a night.

Now, humor me for a second, and lets run through a sample situation. For this, let's assume (even though this won't be true) that each faction leader picks a different person each night, and no two people pick the same person in one night, so 4 people are getting recruited per night. Let's also assume that each faction leader is smart and can figure out who their rivals are, so no faction leaders are picked to recruit.

The first night, everyone is able to pick, no trouble, so there's one person dead from the "lynch" during the day, there are 15 unaligned, and 2 people in every faction (counting the faction leaders).

The second day, let's say another unaligned person is lynched, as this is the most likely occurence. Then, another round of recruitment happens as normal, so there are 2 dead players, 11 unaligned, and 3 per faction.

The third day, lets say a green guy gets lynched, as it's now more likely that someone in a faction is going to be lynched than an unaligned player. Then, at night, let's say Red tries to recruit a Yellow, so fails (I assume he gets a message saying "You cant recruit that player" or something similar), Blue recruits an unaligned, Green recruits a Blue, and Yellow recruits an unaligned. So now we have 9 unaligned players, 3 Red players, 3 Blue players, 3 Green players, and 4 yellow players.

The fourth day, just for kicks, an unaligned player gets killed. At night, Yellow recruits a Blue, Red recruits a Blue, Blue recruits an Unaligned, and Green recruits a Red. So now we have 7 unaligned, 3 Reds, 2 Blues, 4 Greens, and 5 Yellows.

See where I'm going with this? Obviously, I ignored some things such as nightkills and assumed some things that probably won't happen with this game, but my point is: The Yellow Turbans are the most likely to get very strong very quickly, unless we harass them early. In the example above, the Yellow Turbans now have the largest voting bloc in the game, so assuming the YT leader has been reading the thread, he can now get people to start bandwagons, and begin targeting people who he thinks are faction leaders, as he will have enough armies to overcome their natural defense. Because unaligned players will probably just be bandwagoning with the biggest voting bloc, this can become a major issue very quickly.

Of course, the YT leader could, at any point, accidentally try to recruit a faction leader and screw himself over, but I really don't think this is likely to happen. The way I see it, I have a very small chance of becoming a Yellow Turban for a while, as they only get 1 person per night, and I have a much larger chance of becoming part of one of the other factions, since they get up to 3 per night. Since I'll obviously want whatever faction I'm part of to win, I want the Yellow Turbans dead, even though I'm currently not part of any faction. Thus, I'm going to say, I will switch my vote off of Radfield if anyone explicitly says they will be gunning for Yellow Turbans with the daykill if they get it.

There's my argument.

On May 19 2010 04:50 Caller wrote:
a) no, they don't even know that they are recruited. The only one that gets any confirmation is the leader.

Victory is attained when one faction outnumbers all the other factions.

On May 11 2010 15:23 Caller wrote:
i should probably specify that when i say outnumber all other groups, i mean that one group has more than 50% of the total player population.

On May 19 2010 05:56 Radfield wrote:
So if I'm reading this right, townies will never know for sure that they've ever been recruited? Sure a leader might tell us we're on team A or team B, but we'll have no idea if they're lying or not. So essentially, we never become part of a team?

If that's the case, how can the 19 townies ever make any real decisions? How will we even know if we're winning or losing?

On May 19 2010 03:17 Fishball wrote:
Since enemy players can be recruited, that means a player can be "recruited" back and forth? If this is the case, is this game mainly a war among the 4 leaders and the rest are just chess pieces?

On May 19 2010 06:44 Incognito wrote:


Um...



Major contradiction here methinks.