EPTThis is basically the EXACT scenario the list exists for, so why would we make an exemption?
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
This is basically the EXACT scenario the list exists for, so why would we make an exemption? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 03 2011 16:43 bumatlarge wrote: man RoL tried to make mass smurfs for his experimental mafia game and got a 30 day temp ban... thats not cool? I PMed the mod responsible to ask about it, if it has anything to do with the smurfs I'm sure we can clear it up quickly EDIT: Mods are getting his ban reversed shortly, apparently RoL failed to inform them about the fact that he was going to register 11 or so smurf accounts, or rather did so only in a small overlooked post. ^_^ | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On April 03 2011 16:46 GMarshal wrote: I PMed the mod responsible to ask about it, if it has anything to do with the smurfs I'm sure we can clear it up quickly I did as well, once someone who can unban is online, he will be unbanned. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
RebirthOfLeGenD was just temp banned for 30 days by EvilTeletubby. That account was created on 2008-11-12 06:44:02 and had 3425 posts. Reason: You're a dumbass. LOLOLOL | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
RoL, I don't even know what to say about you but you gave me a good laugh, thanks. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
And all the smurfs too, Oh God, the Humanity!!! | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On April 03 2011 18:17 QuickStriker wrote: Then the general consensus is in and I'll "sit out" this game. I don't like this one sided bashing here but I understand the rules and I was merely contesting and challenging if I am able to be given a chance. I don't mind sitting out and not play since after not playing so long, not playing another game is no big deal. I just want my name removed since I hate my "ban" and record in it so if possible, I want it completely clear for the record after this game and I will not be returning for TL Mafia for long while or for good. Seriously, after grabbing my attention on the regular forums hyping this up to regular members to play only to say "sorry you no good," I had it enough with this and spend way too much unnecessary time and energy arguing over this pointless trivial matter. So good luck, goodbye and have fun with your mafia but please keep the unreasonable bashing to me out. RoL, I don't even know what to say about you but you gave me a good laugh, thanks. Stop being a martyr. You aren't the victim here. You have been part of the mafia community long enough to know our rules, and have had access to the forum long enough to have typed in a thread /sitout or message incog or qatol about it. The only person here at fault is you. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 03 2011 18:17 QuickStriker wrote: Then the general consensus is in and I'll "sit out" this game. I don't like this one sided bashing here but I understand the rules and I was merely contesting and challenging if I am able to be given a chance. I don't mind sitting out and not play since after not playing so long, not playing another game is no big deal. I just want my name removed since I hate my "ban" and record in it so if possible, I want it completely clear for the record after this game and I will not be returning for TL Mafia for long while or for good. Seriously, after grabbing my attention on the regular forums hyping this up to regular members to play only to say "sorry you no good," I had it enough with this and spend way too much unnecessary time and energy arguing over this pointless trivial matter. So good luck, goodbye and have fun with your mafia but please keep the unreasonable bashing to me out. RoL, I don't even know what to say about you but you gave me a good laugh, thanks. Okay I'll update the list for you. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 03 2011 13:14 Coagulation wrote: I told you a better way to do things you pretty much blew me off. i went over this already but here you go again. Anyone modkilled is put on a list each time they get modkilled. and a small description of why they had been modkilled next to it. for example. Player name Reason Coagulation - inactivity Coagulation - Disruptive behavior Each time they are modkilled they will have a new report put in the list. then it is up to the HOST accepting sign ups to go over the ban list and review the people that are banned and make a decision based on that information. Bans should be considered based on the circumstances and individual instances. this cookie cutter system doesnt work. And the bottom line is its up to the host if they want to have a specific player in their game. not anyone else and not a list. I would like to hear some thoughts on this. The first thing that comes to mind is that this method involves a lot of reading for a new host because, as far as I can tell, people are never removed from the list. So this would have to become something every host would have to do at the start of every game (they would have to check every player signed up for their game and make sure they are okay with that person's history). Now this isn't THAT much more than what hosts already have to do, but I wouldn't be able to lessen the burden for the hosts as easily (I generally know who is banned and I try to help the hosts out, but the more people on the list, the harder it is for me to do this). And all of this is assuming that the writeups of every ban are detailed enough to actually give proper context to the hosts (which I'm unsure of). Secondly, I'm unsure how your suggestion would handle a situation like QuickStriker's. I don't think a host would have thought twice about allowing him into a game if his only ban history is a 5 month old inactivity ban. Your system has no way of accounting for activity between the ban and the current game. Finally, I'm concerned that a ban history would result in especially harsh sentences because some hosts may decide to just never let people who have been modkilled to play. On the other hand, this might also just allow the ban list to erode if hosts decide that inactivity modkills aren't a big deal. (I realize I'm going in both directions here, but this depends on how hosts would react to such a change). | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
1) If you went inactive for an important reason, you wouldn't mind sitting out a few games while something should be taking up more of your time. It shows maturity, which is an extremely desirable trait here. I'd rather take someone who got modkilled, sat out a game patiently, then joined up for the next one, then someone who is new. 2) If it was pure laziness, and the person just "forgot" to count his bans, or didn't keep track of the game, do we really want that liability on here? I think those points cover everything. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
But at the same time I don't think this would accomplish anything new in terms of hosting. If I was hosting a game, if you're on the banlist you're not playing, regardless of the reason you're on there. I think most hosts would think along the same lines. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On April 04 2011 05:02 Foolishness wrote: I like the idea of having a short description on why each player is banned so that people can see why people got banned and can know to avoid them. For instance I think most people would say an inactivity ban is not quite as bad as a ban for bad behavior in a game (think Showtime! or BM). This would allow people to make the distinction between someone who is known for bad behavior versus someone who got banned because they had a life crisis to attend to mid-game (it happens to everyone). But at the same time I don't think this would accomplish anything new in terms of hosting. If I was hosting a game, if you're on the banlist you're not playing, regardless of the reason you're on there. I think most hosts would think along the same lines. I'm with Tim here. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On April 03 2011 16:46 GMarshal wrote: I PMed the mod responsible to ask about it, if it has anything to do with the smurfs I'm sure we can clear it up quickly EDIT: Mods are getting his ban reversed shortly, apparently RoL failed to inform them about the fact that he was going to register 11 or so smurf accounts, or rather did so only in a small overlooked post. ^_^ I PMED ITW TOO! Like 12 hours before I did that, but then decided to write a post too. I might as well have done nothing  | ||
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