TL Mafia Ban List - Page 63
Forum Index > TL Mafia |
RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
| ||
Foolishness
![]()
United States3044 Posts
| ||
![]()
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On April 04 2011 09:05 Foolishness wrote: My name's not Tim! I know! | ||
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 04 2011 05:02 Foolishness wrote: I like the idea of having a short description on why each player is banned so that people can see why people got banned and can know to avoid them. For instance I think most people would say an inactivity ban is not quite as bad as a ban for bad behavior in a game (think Showtime! or BM). This would allow people to make the distinction between someone who is known for bad behavior versus someone who got banned because they had a life crisis to attend to mid-game (it happens to everyone). But at the same time I don't think this would accomplish anything new in terms of hosting. If I was hosting a game, if you're on the banlist you're not playing, regardless of the reason you're on there. I think most hosts would think along the same lines. So what will the descriptions be used for? I'm a little unsure of their purpose unless you're proposing that hosts use them to make decisions on whether or not they are following the ban list at all. I'm bothered by the idea of adding extra work for the hosts and extra clutter to the list if it isn't going to be used for something productive. And how much context are you wanting in these descriptions? It is obviously easy to write "failed to vote Day X of Mafia XYZ" but other bans aren't so simple. What do you write for a ban like Coagulation's, or perish the thought, Bill Murray's? | ||
Foolishness
![]()
United States3044 Posts
![]() | ||
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
| ||
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 04 2011 14:31 Incognito wrote: I think a simple description such as "inactivity" or "flaming" or "intentionally ruining the game" would serve as a good reminder to players. I think any sort of description would be to help refresh players memories, not so much the host. Letting hosts pick through the ban list and follow it discretionally will make too much trouble though. Which players are you talking about? The players who are being labeled? Or players in general so they can see why people have been banned? | ||
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On April 04 2011 14:32 Qatol wrote: Which players are you talking about? The players who are being labeled? Or players in general so they can see why people have been banned? Players in general. People should have the right to know why someone has been banned before. For example, if someone has a history of behavior problems, and people know his history, then they know what they're getting themselves into when they sign up for a game. | ||
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 04 2011 14:46 Incognito wrote: Players in general. People should have the right to know why someone has been banned before. For example, if someone has a history of behavior problems, and people know his history, then they know what they're getting themselves into when they sign up for a game. So you're suggesting that these tags are not removed when the players are removed from the ban list? | ||
rredtooth
5459 Posts
On April 03 2011 18:17 QuickStriker wrote: Then the general consensus is in and I'll "sit out" this game. I don't like this one sided bashing here but I understand the rules and I was merely contesting and challenging if I am able to be given a chance. I don't mind sitting out and not play since after not playing so long, not playing another game is no big deal. I just want my name removed since I hate my "ban" and record in it so if possible, I want it completely clear for the record after this game and I will not be returning for TL Mafia for long while or for good. Seriously, after grabbing my attention on the regular forums hyping this up to regular members to play only to say "sorry you no good," I had it enough with this and spend way too much unnecessary time and energy arguing over this pointless trivial matter. So good luck, goodbye and have fun with your mafia but please keep the unreasonable bashing to me out. RoL, I don't even know what to say about you but you gave me a good laugh, thanks. On April 03 2011 18:23 QuickStriker wrote: what a self-important immature prick. he literally couldn't sit out one game? i literally am in the same situation as him but somehow he thinks that he's being singled out and being targeted. i honestly wish that Qatol would grant his desires to be a martyr and extend his ban to another game for when he comes back from another hiatus.So does that mean my comments toward Qatol is worse than bashing the TL mods who have actual real power to ban you out of TL? I didn't have multiple bans (only 1) and for me to sit out of mafia when you guys grabbed my attention and interest on the Sports & Games forum to go ahead and give this new game a try only to shut me down is quite laughable. Why advertise then if you're going to grab someone's eye only to say sorry, you're no good here. That's all I want to say about this, hopefully in the future, whenever that may be months or years, this sort of problem don't happen to people who were caught their eyes and attention at this advertisement in the regular forums for people to just come in, join and play only to be denied. Goodbye, good luck and have fun in this game without me. | ||
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 04 2011 18:24 redtooth wrote: what a self-important immature prick. he literally couldn't sit out one game? i literally am in the same situation as him but somehow he thinks that he's being singled out and being targeted. i honestly wish that Qatol would grant his desires to be a martyr and extend his ban to another game for when he comes back from another hiatus. Right now we don't extend (or give) bans for martyring. Do you think we should? I don't think we should single QuickStriker out for extra punishment like this unless we want this to become a general policy. I assume you wish to forbid the use of these kinds of posts: (just to add another example so I am sure we are all on the same page) On May 08 2010 09:36 Bill Murray wrote: well, the fact i didnt MEAN to do it should make it a 1 game ban at most if it remains where it is, i refuse to play ever again here. And if you want to extend bans due to martyring, by how much? | ||
Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
| ||
rredtooth
5459 Posts
On April 05 2011 03:52 Qatol wrote: Well honestly I don't think you should give an extension for that. It was just rhetoric to vent frustration. Honesty, I think the system is excellent as is. Props to you for creating and maintaining it. Right now we don't extend (or give) bans for martyring. Do you think we should? I don't think we should single QuickStriker out for extra punishment like this unless we want this to become a general policy. I assume you wish to forbid the use of these kinds of posts: (just to add another example so I am sure we are all on the same page) And if you want to extend bans due to martyring, by how much? ![]() | ||
BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On April 05 2011 04:25 Barundar wrote: I don't think TL mods would be able to keep their sanity without the ban for martyrdom principle, but we aren't mods fighting against hordes of bad posters, we are just playing a game. Martyring out of mafia games isn't relevant for how he performs in them, which is the reason we are banning at the moment. The problem with martyrdom is it really disrupts the flow of the game, and is also just straight annoying to have to deal with. It can especially ruin mafia for newer players who don't yet understand that it's not the norm here. We can't grandfather in martyrdom-related modkills that have already happened, but I think from this point forward we should make it clear that any form of martyrdom or ragequitting will be met with a harsher ban. Hopefully it will help people think twice before going all Scaramanga on us. | ||
![]()
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 05 2011 06:32 BrownBear wrote: The problem with martyrdom is it really disrupts the flow of the game, and is also just straight annoying to have to deal with. It can especially ruin mafia for newer players who don't yet understand that it's not the norm here. We can't grandfather in martyrdom-related modkills that have already happened, but I think from this point forward we should make it clear that any form of martyrdom or ragequitting will be met with a harsher ban. Hopefully it will help people think twice before going all Scaramanga on us. Dare I ask? What happened with Scaramanga? is there a link available where I might peruse this drama (or a mafia game #, I'll find it)? On that note, I believe that we should most certainly have some kind of bans for martyrdom, I understand that sometimes one can be upset at their team, or the mod, or the injustice of having to play against people like Ver, but just up and quitting on account of that can ruin games. | ||
aidnai
United States1159 Posts
| ||
Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
something along those lines | ||
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On April 04 2011 14:57 Qatol wrote: So you're suggesting that these tags are not removed when the players are removed from the ban list? I mean, I see a spoilered section at the end of the ban list called "People taken off the list". After the ban is over I don't think it would be too hard to copy why they were banned from the ban list and paste it in there. | ||
Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On April 05 2011 06:32 BrownBear wrote: The problem with martyrdom is it really disrupts the flow of the game, and is also just straight annoying to have to deal with. It can especially ruin mafia for newer players who don't yet understand that it's not the norm here. We can't grandfather in martyrdom-related modkills that have already happened, but I think from this point forward we should make it clear that any form of martyrdom or ragequitting will be met with a harsher ban. Hopefully it will help people think twice before going all Scaramanga on us. I think you misunderstand me. I'm talking about the type of martyr posts that Qatol listed, ie. out of games posts, where the poster takes his future playing mafia on TL as hostage to avoid a ban. I would report QS for his passive/aggressive posts like any other bad post, but I don't think the banlist is the best tool to deal with problems out of games. My post wasn't a defense of strategic modkills in games at all ![]() | ||
bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
| ||
| ||