EPTReading up and posting feedback/verdicts/ticklemonsters.
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Reading up and posting feedback/verdicts/ticklemonsters. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
People were using information from outside the game to infer alignment. Whether stupid or not, it:s still not part of the game itself and should never have occured. Personally idc what happens to Marv i just dont want this to happen again. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
2. No games are played because everyone is banned 3. Everyone's ban lasts forever 4. Peace on earth | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On May 20 2013 06:34 GMarshal wrote: Someone should PM me when this thread explodes so I can chime in. Reading up and posting feedback/verdicts/ticklemonsters. how do we make text thats the color of your name | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On May 30 2013 07:29 prplhz wrote: while i really enjoy playing with marv a 2 game ban for deliberately posting after death doesn't seem excessive to me. A 1 game ban is what I was able to get him to agree to, so it's what we're going with. It's been a while and I'm tired of arguing with him. In retrospect, the fact that the QT was destroyed only further reinforced my opinion that hosts should handle Hydra QTs. I legitimately believe Marv got rid of it without malice and not intending to obscure the evidence against him, but it doesn't change the fact that now there's really nothing more I can say. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
A one game ban is the same punishment you get for afking out of a game and this is clearly more serious. I don't think anything in this thread shows marvellosity realizing that this isn't about him being upset with a host but about him deliberately breaking rules and ruining a game for other players. No remorse, no apology. I also think marvellosity should be a lot more accomodating with hosts, just do whatever instead of arguing everything out. Christ. What's the problem about switching to another QuickTopic if the host wants you to? Just friggin' do it. There is no point in making an example out of marvellosity because this thing happens once in a never, what he did was simply pretty bad and he knew it but did it anyway. I also think the comment about Blazinghand splitting up with his girlfriend was entirely tasteless. This all started with a player disagreeing with a host about how the game should be run (what QuickTopic to use, whether or not Blazinghand should actively argue with a player in a QuickTopic). Maybe we could diffuse such future situations by having players get neutral parties to mediate between them and the host? If marvellosity had asked an iGrok to mediate then maybe iGrok would have had an easier time talking sense into Blazinghand and maybe marvellosity would have had an easier time accepting whatever verdict iGrok came up with? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
You're forgetting that afking out of a game is an unprovoked decision, and I was totally livid when I posted in the game. Is anyone arguing I was right to be modkilled? igrok called it totally unjustified. As far as I'm aware, you might give bans to people who just abandon games because there's a real risk they'll do it again and ruin future games by doing the same thing. Do you think I need 2 games and not 1 to 'understand' what I did was wrong? Or do you just want to punish me? Do you really think I don't feel bad for how the game turned out? | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On May 30 2013 17:19 prplhz wrote: I don't think it's over until GMarshal has been in here and meted out a sentence with uncompromised accuracy. This isn't about what we can get the infractor to think is okay with him and this isn't about you and marvellosity battling it out in spectacular fashion. A one game ban is the same punishment you get for afking out of a game and this is clearly more serious. I don't think anything in this thread shows marvellosity realizing that this isn't about him being upset with a host but about him deliberately breaking rules and ruining a game for other players. No remorse, no apology. I also think marvellosity should be a lot more accomodating with hosts, just do whatever instead of arguing everything out. Christ. What's the problem about switching to another QuickTopic if the host wants you to? Just friggin' do it. There is no point in making an example out of marvellosity because this thing happens once in a never, what he did was simply pretty bad and he knew it but did it anyway. I also think the comment about Blazinghand splitting up with his girlfriend was entirely tasteless. This all started with a player disagreeing with a host about how the game should be run (what QuickTopic to use, whether or not Blazinghand should actively argue with a player in a QuickTopic). Maybe we could diffuse such future situations by having players get neutral parties to mediate between them and the host? If marvellosity had asked an iGrok to mediate then maybe iGrok would have had an easier time talking sense into Blazinghand and maybe marvellosity would have had an easier time accepting whatever verdict iGrok came up with? Or, perhaps people should just accept that it's the host's game and what he says goes. Independent of how unreasonable it is, it is the hosts game, he can modkill for any reason, up to and including "you used the word 'red'". Yes, its infuriating sometimes, but if you don't like the way a person hosts, you have no obligation to play in their games. Everyone has pretty much agreed that a 1 game ban is appropriate, and given that marv knows what he did wrong and the fact that he isn't just some newbie seeing what he can get away with, I think its the right call. Because I was slow on making the call, I'll allow him to sit out my smurf mini if he wants. That said, it would be fantastic if people who are angry would send me rage PMs rather than acting out in peoples games, which we can all agree is utterly unacceptable. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Also, be prepared for many rage emails (kidding? or am I...) <3 | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On May 30 2013 21:25 GMarshal wrote: it would be fantastic if people who are angry would send me rage PMs dont mind if i do. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18356 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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