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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 19 2013 21:34 GMT
#3381
Someone should PM me when this thread explodes so I can chime in.

Reading up and posting feedback/verdicts/ticklemonsters.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
May 19 2013 22:19 GMT
#3382
I agree with Palmar in that the events changed the entire outcome of the game.

People were using information from outside the game to infer alignment. Whether stupid or not, it:s still not part of the game itself and should never have occured. Personally idc what happens to Marv i just dont want this to happen again.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 19 2013 23:06 GMT
#3383
ive been drinking a little, but i want to make a joke that the spam monster was modkilled for activity .... hahaha
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 21 2013 01:46 GMT
#3384
As much as I like marv, I agree with Palmar.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 21 2013 01:51 GMT
#3385
BAN THE COBBLER TOO! BAN EVERYBODY!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#3386
1. Give everyone a 1 game ban
2. No games are played because everyone is banned
3. Everyone's ban lasts forever
4. Peace on earth
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 23 2013 22:53 GMT
#3387
On May 20 2013 06:34 GMarshal wrote:
Someone should PM me when this thread explodes so I can chime in.

Reading up and posting feedback/verdicts/ticklemonsters.

how do we make text thats the color of your name
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 29 2013 21:19 GMT
#3388
gonna sit out Roulette Mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 29 2013 22:29 GMT
#3389
while i really enjoy playing with marv a 2 game ban for deliberately posting after death doesn't seem excessive to me.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
May 30 2013 01:52 GMT
#3390
On May 30 2013 07:29 prplhz wrote:
while i really enjoy playing with marv a 2 game ban for deliberately posting after death doesn't seem excessive to me.


A 1 game ban is what I was able to get him to agree to, so it's what we're going with. It's been a while and I'm tired of arguing with him. In retrospect, the fact that the QT was destroyed only further reinforced my opinion that hosts should handle Hydra QTs. I legitimately believe Marv got rid of it without malice and not intending to obscure the evidence against him, but it doesn't change the fact that now there's really nothing more I can say.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 30 2013 08:19 GMT
#3391
I don't think it's over until GMarshal has been in here and meted out a sentence with uncompromised accuracy. This isn't about what we can get the infractor to think is okay with him and this isn't about you and marvellosity battling it out in spectacular fashion.

A one game ban is the same punishment you get for afking out of a game and this is clearly more serious. I don't think anything in this thread shows marvellosity realizing that this isn't about him being upset with a host but about him deliberately breaking rules and ruining a game for other players. No remorse, no apology. I also think marvellosity should be a lot more accomodating with hosts, just do whatever instead of arguing everything out. Christ. What's the problem about switching to another QuickTopic if the host wants you to? Just friggin' do it. There is no point in making an example out of marvellosity because this thing happens once in a never, what he did was simply pretty bad and he knew it but did it anyway.

I also think the comment about Blazinghand splitting up with his girlfriend was entirely tasteless.

This all started with a player disagreeing with a host about how the game should be run (what QuickTopic to use, whether or not Blazinghand should actively argue with a player in a QuickTopic). Maybe we could diffuse such future situations by having players get neutral parties to mediate between them and the host? If marvellosity had asked an iGrok to mediate then maybe iGrok would have had an easier time talking sense into Blazinghand and maybe marvellosity would have had an easier time accepting whatever verdict iGrok came up with?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2013 12:01 GMT
#3392
I've admitted my culpability numerous times, both in the many PMs BH and I shared and in passing in the post-game of LXI.

You're forgetting that afking out of a game is an unprovoked decision, and I was totally livid when I posted in the game. Is anyone arguing I was right to be modkilled? igrok called it totally unjustified.

As far as I'm aware, you might give bans to people who just abandon games because there's a real risk they'll do it again and ruin future games by doing the same thing. Do you think I need 2 games and not 1 to 'understand' what I did was wrong? Or do you just want to punish me? Do you really think I don't feel bad for how the game turned out?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 12:29:43
May 30 2013 12:25 GMT
#3393
On May 30 2013 17:19 prplhz wrote:
I don't think it's over until GMarshal has been in here and meted out a sentence with uncompromised accuracy. This isn't about what we can get the infractor to think is okay with him and this isn't about you and marvellosity battling it out in spectacular fashion.

A one game ban is the same punishment you get for afking out of a game and this is clearly more serious. I don't think anything in this thread shows marvellosity realizing that this isn't about him being upset with a host but about him deliberately breaking rules and ruining a game for other players. No remorse, no apology. I also think marvellosity should be a lot more accomodating with hosts, just do whatever instead of arguing everything out. Christ. What's the problem about switching to another QuickTopic if the host wants you to? Just friggin' do it. There is no point in making an example out of marvellosity because this thing happens once in a never, what he did was simply pretty bad and he knew it but did it anyway.

I also think the comment about Blazinghand splitting up with his girlfriend was entirely tasteless.

This all started with a player disagreeing with a host about how the game should be run (what QuickTopic to use, whether or not Blazinghand should actively argue with a player in a QuickTopic). Maybe we could diffuse such future situations by having players get neutral parties to mediate between them and the host? If marvellosity had asked an iGrok to mediate then maybe iGrok would have had an easier time talking sense into Blazinghand and maybe marvellosity would have had an easier time accepting whatever verdict iGrok came up with?

Or, perhaps people should just accept that it's the host's game and what he says goes. Independent of how unreasonable it is, it is the hosts game, he can modkill for any reason, up to and including "you used the word 'red'". Yes, its infuriating sometimes, but if you don't like the way a person hosts, you have no obligation to play in their games.

Everyone has pretty much agreed that a 1 game ban is appropriate, and given that marv knows what he did wrong and the fact that he isn't just some newbie seeing what he can get away with, I think its the right call. Because I was slow on making the call, I'll allow him to sit out my smurf mini if he wants. That said, it would be fantastic if people who are angry would send me rage PMs rather than acting out in peoples games, which we can all agree is utterly unacceptable.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2013 12:50 GMT
#3394
Thanks for the offer, GMarshal, I'll take you up on it if you don't mind, especially since of the games running/starting soon (Bastard, Smurf, Roulette) Smurf is definitely the one I'd have signed up for.

Also, be prepared for many rage emails (kidding? or am I...) <3

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#3395
I second the rage pms thing. Also i can vouch for GM, i've used him to vent before. He's really good at saying nothing
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 31 2013 03:13 GMT
#3396
I'm going to sit out whatever marv is sitting out. He seems like a smart chap. Cheerio.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
June 04 2013 01:48 GMT
#3397
On May 30 2013 21:25 GMarshal wrote:
it would be fantastic if people who are angry would send me rage PMs


dont mind if i do.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2013 04:12 GMT
#3398
Shraft, one game ban after vanishing without a trace in smurf mafia.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18438 Posts
June 17 2013 23:09 GMT
#3399
Requesting a 1-game ban for tE_ for his lack of activity in Newbie Mini Mafia XLII. I am not requesting a ban for Yavanna, because she messaged me in a timely manner about wanting to be replaced, due to unforeseeable real life issues.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 03 2013 15:13 GMT
#3400
Could a get a warning for strongandbig for being modkilled in PTP 4, thanks.
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