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On May 19 2013 07:14 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 07:02 marvellosity wrote:
Again, what are you suggesting I learn from a ban, other than the fact that I shouldn't play in games where the host modkills because he's on his period? Marv, this isn't the first time that you made a big deal out of a reasonable request from the host. In Personality Mafia 2, you didn't format your parity cop check correctly in the thread, I asked you to fix it, and you requested to be modkilled if I was serious. I was serious, but I let it go figuring marv was just being marv. If there is something to learn, maybe it is that you should follow the hosts rules no matter how silly they may seem because its his game. The rule to not past after being modkilled has been around for years. I think it did have an impact on the game, even if you didn't mean it to. Still love you, but with this being the second time you've been modkilled in a short period, I think sitting out a couple weeks and coming back good as new is reasonable.
the request from the host wasn't reasonable in this case.
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Yes I do. I've had it in with one or two hosts in the past so I completely understand where you're coming from. It's his game and you are technically at his mercy so whatever you say is taken with a grain of salt.
100% understand. What I'm getting at is you can't use "well if this didn't happen, then I wouldn't have done this" as an excuse because the ultimate result ended up effecting other players. If it just stayed between you and BH I doubt you'd be receiving so much flak. I honestly don't care which of you is right or wrong as it seems both of you have admitted to making mistakes in this situation. We can move on from that, the only thing left to deal with is the game itself which BH is trying to compensate for with a ban.
Does that seem unreasonable?
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On May 19 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
Yes I do. I've had it in with one or two hosts in the past so I completely understand where you're coming from. It's his game and you are technically at his mercy so whatever you say is taken with a grain of salt.
100% understand. What I'm getting at is you can't use "well if this didn't happen, then I wouldn't have done this" as an excuse because the ultimate result ended up effecting other players. If it just stayed between you and BH I doubt you'd be receiving so much flak. I honestly don't care which of you is right or wrong as it seems both of you have admitted to making mistakes in this situation. We can move on from that, the only thing left to deal with is the game itself which BH is trying to compensate for with a ban.
Does that seem unreasonable?
Being banned for 2 games seems unreasonable when BH gets away scot-free for something which was equally shit.
He gets to 'move on' for free, I don't. That strikes me as really, really unreasonable.
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BH isn't getting banned because he didn't ruin the game for the other players. I don't see why you can't understand this. Whatever happened between you two is a related, but not directly responsible for you posting after being modkilled.
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On May 19 2013 07:31 Ace wrote:
BH isn't getting banned because he didn't ruin the game for the other players. I don't see why you can't understand this. Whatever happened between you two is a related, but not direct action of you posting after being modkilled.
Incorrect, he did ruin the game. He modkilled the most experience and leading member of the mafia team for no reason.
This had a direct impact on the game.
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You are really grasping at straws now. If that is honestly your thought process you really should sit out for a while.
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how is that grasping at straws?
Blazing totally gimped the mafia team because of his own ego. How is that not ruining the game? Explain it to me.
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Like, I signed up and played in Dr Who after LXI finished.
If anyone can go read my filter there (where I'm dead) and point to something that shows I need to be taught a lesson, I really am all ears.
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You seriously have a problem isolating your own actions in the thread against what happened between you and BH. Claiming the game was ruined because YOU got killed is just silly. Maybe Vivax should also claim the game was ruined because the mods randomly made him a VT, thus limiting and gimping the town because he always gets killed early.
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On May 19 2013 07:37 Ace wrote:
You seriously have a problem isolating your own actions in the thread against what happened between you and BH. Claiming the game was ruined because YOU got killed is just silly. Maybe Vivax should also claim the game was ruined because the mods randomly made him a VT, thus limiting and gimping the town because he always gets killed early.
how are the two scenarios remotely similar?
mafia were given a set amount of players, of which one is the natural leader and the most experience.
for completely arbitrary reasons, the host removes said player part way through day 1. Now for no reason other than the host, the mafia team is deprived of one of its players.
how is that remotely similar to rolling someone VT?
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It doesn't matter if you think the host request is unreasonable, if it is completely trivial to fulfill. It's not up to you to decide. If you have a problem with certain hosts, don't join their games or get replaced out.
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On May 19 2013 07:40 syllogism wrote:
It doesn't matter if you think the host request is unreasonable, if it is completely trivial to fulfill. It's not up to you to decide. If you have a problem with certain hosts, don't join their games or get replaced out.
do you think I deserve a 2 game ban?
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I am running out of  Anybody have a refill?
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Because both arguments are equally SILLY. Your actions are what resulted in you getting modkilled. You ruined the game for yourself - not BH. Then when you post in the thread you affect it for the rest of the players. Did you even read the end of LXI?
This isn't complicated but I guess you are set in your ways. I'm done talking about it as I don't have power over the ban thread and the situation is mostly resolved anyway.
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On May 19 2013 07:42 Ace wrote:
Because both arguments are equally SILLY. Your actions are what resulted in you getting modkilled. You ruined the game for yourself - not BH. Then when you post in the thread you affect it for the rest of the players. Did you even read the end of LXI?
This isn't complicated but I guess you are set in your ways. I'm done talking about it as I don't have power over the ban thread and the situation is mostly resolved anyway.
No, BlazingHand splitting up with his girlfriend and being in a shitty mood is what resulted in me being modkilled.
But whatever.
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On May 19 2013 07:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 07:42 Ace wrote:
Because both arguments are equally SILLY. Your actions are what resulted in you getting modkilled. You ruined the game for yourself - not BH. Then when you post in the thread you affect it for the rest of the players. Did you even read the end of LXI?
This isn't complicated but I guess you are set in your ways. I'm done talking about it as I don't have power over the ban thread and the situation is mostly resolved anyway. No, BlazingHand splitting up with his girlfriend and being in a shitty mood is what resulted in me being modkilled. But whatever.
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I have the PM trail if you want to see it :/ but yeah. I'm tired of this.
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On May 19 2013 07:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 07:40 syllogism wrote:
It doesn't matter if you think the host request is unreasonable, if it is completely trivial to fulfill. It's not up to you to decide. If you have a problem with certain hosts, don't join their games or get replaced out. do you think I deserve a 2 game ban?
If I had been playing as town, I would definitely be angry. However, I don't think banning active players is a good idea right now.
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if syllo thinks i deserve a 2-game, I'll take it.
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ninjad :/
edit: in all seriousness, i trust syllo to be reasonable. i don't trust either BH or Ace to be reasonable. syllo says 0 games or 1 or 3 or 2, i'll take it without arguing.
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