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Malongo
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Ace
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Chezinu
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They all abstain. They all ignored my pm's. They shall be on the mafia' hit list. | ||
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Malongo
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On February 16 2010 14:38 Ace wrote: No. What I'm saying is if you don't get hit then your plan hasn't done anything besides forced Redooth to protect you if he is indeed legit. So my plan does nothing is that bad¿ | ||
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Vivi57
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tl;dr: Ace and bc are in the same family with redtooth as a likely third member ok, this whole post is going to be what I think as I read the every post of bc and ace's. Honestly, the reason I haven't been posting much is because the thread's been growing way too fast and I've been playing more poker and putting less time into mafia. I completely agree with bc as head of one mafia family. You pointed out his mayor post, but he also mentioned that he won't touch clues till day 3 under the premise that there's no point, just what he did in the game where he was traitor. bc is also defending ace so it might be possible they're on the same team. then he says he can't make a plan because it'll be hard to come up with, easy to stop. either he's a lazy townie or mafia. yep, even more mafia. He basically uses the defense that his team wouldn't give him gf in the exact position where he *would* want to get gf. the next bit of posts are pretty bad, he's putting a ton of effort into stopping discussion and basically telling everyone that their methods are bad rather than actually trying to hunt mafia. more DONT LYNCH ACE! ...but emp is a good lead! the he posts some forced day1 clue analysis after he spends a *long* time saying that analysis should be worthless and ignored. Combine that with something he said in msn to me: "I wish I was special  " and you have a great case against bc.now on to ace. Alot of the stuff ace said, I just kinda skimmed over the first time and ignored because all he does is scream. Let's see what a more careful analysis has to offer: starts off with a couple OMGUS posts, standard. Then he spends a bunch of time saying how clues are useless. I agree, behavior *is* more important than clues. Although, Ace is putting so much effort into convincing everyone that the clues don't point that it definitely makes him suspect. His strategy seems to be "lynch anyone who really wants to kill me" which while amusing doesn't do much of anything. Then he goes off about one of his million policy lynches, this time "lynch anyone who starts a wagon that ends in townie blood." Ace makes a subtle defense of redtooth, the only player besides himself he's defended the entire game. CLAIMS GREEN even after that, ace and redtooth keep mentioning each other. There's a very interesting dynamic going on between them and especially when you see redtooth post "Ace and I can't both be mafia." At this point, I'm fairly sure ace and redtooth are in the same mafia family. then we have some voteswitching so that ace can have the election exactly the way he wants, oddly enough putting L into pardoner. I haven't seen ace do anything useful on day1 other than telling everyone they suck and repeating that he's town over and over. I do agree with the theory that ace and redtooth are mafia together, but I'm not the least bit convinced that bc and ace would be heads of opposite mafia families. I'm sure bc is head of one, but ace and bc are either in the same family or ace actually *is* innocent. The most interesting here is that bc spent a while defending ace, but ace didn't even mention bc ONCE. I'm going to go with bc and ace in the same family with redtooth as a likely third member. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: So it doesn't take a genius to see that you are hiding something this game. Now just what is it? Currently my analysis of the situation looks like the mafia have BC and Ace as the head of two families. What do you think of this? I'm expecting a certain type of response from you. Don't let me down  | ||
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johnnyspazz
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rredtooth
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start thinking about groups people. i've stated many times why it's pretty illogical for me and Ace to be grouped. some of my reasoning was WIFOM but either we're pulling some really advanced moves or i'm just playing like shit. anyways, people should start scrutinizing votelists, especially the swings that happened last second and the early bandwagon voting (citizen's list in particular). note any consistencies between voting alliances and agreement in thread. tonight i ask that the other medics refrain from protecting highly suspect mafia candidates, especially those are being accused based on clues. that means Ace, BC, Mystlord, and maybe 789. we should be scratching our heads if any of those people are alive tomorrow. think of it from the perspective of a mafia: you are trying to take out the other family so why would you leave any suspected mafia candidate alive. this is part of the reason why i didn't kill Ace with my lynch. i expect him to die tonight. this essentially means that at the end of the Day there is a good chance mafia may 'clean up' the remainder of the suspected candidates. remember, they are trying to kill each other, not us. my first question to the town is about DTs. the game format allows for a degree of flexibility in DTs roleclaiming. medics highly discourage mafia from wasting hits on DT, especially when the DT can benefit the mafia themselves. mafia can kill all the town-aligned players they want but won't win unless they kill off the opposing family. i'm off to sleep. see you tomorrow. | ||
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Chezinu
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Ace
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Seriously, with so many people accusing me of being scum with no proof that actually makes it more likely I'm town. | ||
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MasterDana
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On February 16 2010 14:40 Chezinu wrote: What does tredmasta, Phrujbaz, ohN, and MasterDana have in common? They all abstain. They all ignored my pm's. They shall be on the mafia' hit list. lolwut. Abstained due to no real clear choice for presidency, and my question about how important a Mayor can be went unanswered, so I reverted to abstain. and really? You're trying to fish some baddies with PM's. Responding to that PM you sent was a no-win, pro-town or Mafia. Why did we lynch Empyrean? Going off of posting habits seems like a real stretch unless there's a hugggeeee difference. I haven't played any previous games, but reading Ver's post about Empyrean's posting habits didn't seem all that drastic. Different, of course, but enough to lynch? Not really. Alas, lynched anyways and a green lays dead. Was Ver wrong, or trying to mislead us? Regardless, I think most agree that Redtooth hanging Empyrean was a mistake for the Townies, if he is indeed supporting them. Awkward collection of thoughts, but the point I'm trying to get across is that my faith in Redtooth as a pro-townie mayor is thin. | ||
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Ace
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Ver
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-Quit spamming the thread. This is the most active game ever and it's seriously hindering the ability of a) reading important posts (they get buried) and b) forcing people to be accountable (accusations get buried). We seriously should start enforcing a rule (as players, not as host at least for this game) to ban 1 liners and any low content posts. -My accusation of Empyrean was not final, it was a setup. He messed up but he had a chance to prove himself, which was not really granted given his and my inactivity. Rarely is it feasible to be able to declare someone mafia by analysis without any kind of response. This is why it is critical that when someone is accused with serious evidence backing it that we make them accountable and not just let them brush it off and ignore it. It's astonishing despite how enormous this thread is, a large number of people have said virtually nothing or nothing of importance. More attention needs to be brought to light on this, as these people are seriously crippling our ability to gather information. I'm sure some of them are simply put off by how large this thread is since some people insist on spamming useless posts over and over again. We need to force these people to start talking and get real information out there. I went through the thread and compiled a 'useless list' of people who haven't made any serious contribution this game. A certain few are not there for various reasons, though it is possible I may have forgotten some. If you're on this list, better start posting and giving the best contribution you can if you want to help the town win. Phrujbaz quickstriker shikyo Opz Decaf amber Xelin Nikoner tree.hugger MasterDana JohnnySpazz Ohn Tredmasta l10f Faronel Nemy Shockeyy Scamp Cynanmachae Sidesprang Fishball Abenson If you feel you are on this list unjustly, prove me wrong about your uselessness. | ||
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Zato-1
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On February 16 2010 13:16 madnessman wrote: There are many many flaws to this plan. HOWEVER I do believe it will work *IF* the mafia team that does not have Malongo or redtooth on their roster were to hit Malongo tonight, and none of the medics (aside from redtooth obviously) protects him! This whole proposition from Malongo is flawed. Let me pick it apart piece by piece: On February 16 2010 13:16 madnessman wrote: 1. redtooth is MAFIA A and Malongo is TOWNIE - Mafia A doesn't hit Malongo. Mafia B hits Malongo. Malongo dies. We know that redtooth is not actually a medic and a member of Mafia A! -> this info = good for both Mafia B and the town, bad for Mafia A Look at from Mafia B's perspective. They hit Malongo. Malongo dies. Either redtooth did not protect him and is therefore from Mafia A, or redtooth did protect him but Mafia A also hit Malongo. Either way, Mafia B wasted a hit and still doesn't know a thing about redtooth. On February 16 2010 13:16 madnessman wrote: 2. redtooth is a MEDIC and Malongo is MAFIA A - Mafia A doesn't hit Malongo. Mafia B hits Malongo. redtooth saves Malongo. Mafia B now knows that redtooth is actually a medic and NOT a member of Mafia A! -> this info = good for Mafia B (Town remains ignorant as it has no way of knowing for certain that a hit was placed on Malongo.) Whoopy doo, Mafia B wastes a hit to determine that 1 out of 40 targets is NOT someone they want to kill after all. Not worth it. On February 16 2010 13:16 madnessman wrote: 3. redtooth is MAFIA A and Malongo are MAFIA A - Mafia A doesn't hit Malongo. Mafia B hits Malongo. Malongo dies. We now know redtooth is not actually a medic and a member of Mafia A! -> this info = good for both Mafia B and the town, bad for Mafia A This case would make sense, except for the fact that since Malongo is Mafia A and so is redtooth, Malongo would know the plan would backfire horribly upon his own family and would therefore never have proposed it in the first place. This scenario is almost an impossibility. On February 16 2010 13:16 madnessman wrote: 4. redtooth is a MEDIC and Malongo is TOWNIE - Mafia A hits Malongo. Mafia B hits Malongo. redtooth saves Malongo. But because he got 2 hits does he die??? A medic cover will protect a target from 1 night hit, so if both mafia families were to hit him, Malongo would die, yes. In this case, both mafia families are left to wonder whether the other family also hit Malongo, or redtooth was mafia and didn't protect Malongo- the only thing the end result tells them is that the number of hits on Malongo exceeded the number of medic covers by at least 1. If only one family hits Malongo, all they achieve is determining that redtooth is indeed a medic, and therefore someone they don't particularly care to kill. So depending on circumstances which Mafia B family does not control, they will either learn: a) Nothing, or b) That 1/40 targets is not someone they care about (redtooth). As to the question, what do we have to lose? A medic cover, that's what. I've established that it is not in the mafia's interest to hit whoever redtooth claims he will cover, therefore they won't, and redtooth will waste his medic cover (if he indeed has one). Sure, it's a small cost to pay, but when there's literally zero upside, it's still a bad plan. Also, in before SugiuraMidori accuses me of being mafia for the scummy logic in this post :p | ||
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Ver
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Do not Protect List: Bloodyc0bbler: + Show Spoiler [Initial accusation] + On February 14 2010 10:58 Ver wrote: Time to start things rolling. My primary suspect for the first lynch is Bloodyc0bbler. Obviously he's only posted twice since the game started, an election post and another useless psot. BC runs for election quite a bit. I've taken the liberty of gathering up his previous election campaigns so you can compare them. + Show Spoiler [Chuiu's game 5 as Townie] + On March 17 2009 17:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ok everyone, unlike the flashy gimicks of caller, I offer substance to my platform!. to start with heres my portfolio. Name: BloodyC0bbler Mafia experience: 5(6 if you count callers as two go's), 1 game run, 1 game co hosted Looking at just the one stat alone, I have the experience to lead this town to victory! In mafia 2, I was town aligned and we won, mafia 3 we as town dominated the mafia, mafia 4 was ruined by a jerkoff so well, can't really say much there. Tracils game ended early, but my side was winning. Callers first game ended day one with VI win, and his second game I as VI won. I have a high precident of winning the games on the side im part of, with ability, and luck like that, I would be an obvious goodluck charm for the town. Now, witha ll the extra things I do on TL (PX, Location thread, etc...) You guys know I spend way to much time here, giving me the most amount of time to really jump ontop of things, I can analyze clues well which is helpful in your sheriff. That is my background, As for what I will do for the town to win. As sheriff or mayor, I will help guide the town where I can doing what I do best, Analysis. I can analyze clues, behaviour of players and guide us in a winning direction. As sheriff, I can jail 4 people in a game once per person, this allows me to save potential targets from mafia in a night, or jail the mafia lowering their KP. As mayor I can guide us towards killing the right suspect, and with a day 1 auto lynch, kill the person who is the most fishy to the town, but in the end, that will come to a consensus among the town first. Now for a plan. We all know the town works better when organized, as such, neither mayor nor sheriff can guide this town to victory without being under suspect (we always flip as mayor or sheriff regardless of any other role). So heres the plan. Medics protect veteran players early. When one of them takes a hit, the medic should roleclaim to that person AND that person should claim they took a hit. That person then gets checked. They get the medic checked as well. If BOTH check out, they both come out and serve as figureheads for the town. They coordinate blue abilities but keep information on to the town. When the person is hit they speak up. The sheriff then locks him up, protecting him from night hits while a dt checks him out. Once verified we repeat process with med, and have two figureheads, as opposed to the regular one. In the event the person who is hit doesnt speak up, the medic speaks up, we verify them first, then the one hit after. This is our best chance at getting town leadership quickly. + Show Spoiler [Qatol's game 8 as Traitor] + On May 16 2009 15:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote: OK BOYO'S! Ok guys, this game will be the hardest one potentially we have ever done, as such we need to get the mafia as soon as this game starts. I've shown a record of insane amount of clue analyzing from previous games, as such I believe I would make a good candidate for the town to keep alive. I however, would prefer to be pardoner, this allows me to help prevent potentially townbreaking lynches. As mayor, I would analyze the clues (as this is my forte) and bring them to your attention and direct votes on the best possible suspects, thus bringing the town some central leadership to avoid chaos. As pardoner, I would do generally the same idea, however, would use my ability to prevent lynches on cases where it appeared someone with no links was up for no reason. Vote for order, vote for BloodyC0bbler + Show Spoiler [Plexa's game 12, Townie] + On July 03 2009 07:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: OK first off I AM RUNNING FOR OFFICE I am already seeing idiocy of players that has led to many vets getting insanely discouraged with playing these games. I appreciate Plexa for trying to make this game interesting with the addition of different roles, tweaking how some work, and the addition of fog. Now lets outline why I should be in office. Weather I'm already seeing debate on weather, and You guys are saying opt for rain? We have two medics, each have an extra life, and they can protect people. Historically medics have sucked more than any other role in the game, IE don't depend on them early game, how hard is this to understand, MEDICS DO NOT WIN GAMES. This instantly gets rid of the damn rain option. Next we have sunny which allows our assassins to attack. If you guys vote for this I will kill you. EVEN IF they hit a mafia, which we all jump and joy in, there is a chance they hit the godfather, and guess what, this means the godfather role gets given to another mafia and we have to find the damn guy again, way to much effort, so sunny isn't an option we want, also vigi roles aren't always reliable, lynches are where we have to win, so SUNNY is out. Next we have snow, snow is useful for hey additional clues. Guess what, most of the top clue analyzers from all previous games aren't in this one, IE the amount of people benefiting from these clues is so damn small its not worth voting on, so we ignore snow. This leaves fog, ie WE SPAM FOG. All greens should be voting fog every day to keep it going. It removes the pledges kp from the mafia. So if there would be at least 1 possibly as high as 3 or 4 pledges. This will reduce a KP from the mafia meaning 1-2 less people die at night. THAT IS A GUARENTEE. Medics are not guarenteed to protect so this is a safer bet. So we spam fog until the pledges are all dead, then move on to a different weather. Also note, with fog reducing the mafia KP, the suicide bomber will be less likely to use his ability as it removes even more kp from them. Leadership In most games I have played, I have worked in some way in town circles working for the benefit of the town, many times leading to a win for the town. This gives me the experience to help lead the town and help keep it organized. The towns in the last few games have been reduced to very small voices screaming at a mass of chaos and leads to failure, it has to stop. I would make an excellent choice for the leadership purely based off my experience at keeping some form of order. Untop of that, for once I am one of a very few in terms of a specific skill. I, as ive said in other games, clue analyze. Out of the current player base of this game, Myself and Pyrr are most likely most known for spending time on clues (there may be one or two people from pyrr's game , but i didnt pay much attention to it). This means either him or myself should have the bg protection purely to keep us alive to use that skill. I will do my best to keep us alive. Double Lynch I will make sure we get these used on top mafia targets, IE if we have two insanely guilty looking people, double lynch will be used. We wont have to worry about constantly voting for double lynch one day, then worrying mafia stop it. IT WILL GET USED and by god it will get by the town. These are merely a few points, but seriously with the debate of what to vote on for weather, A strong player is needed as the emperor or we are all fucked. Vote for me but more importantly VOTE FOR FOG + Show Spoiler [This game] + On February 14 2010 07:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As the game as begun, it is time to get it started. I, BloodyC0bbler, am running for the position of mayor. I believe the town can easily win this if we work together, as a concise unit, and do so before the mafia can create their own plans. Action must happen now. My campaign is on a platform of strength. I believe I have the strength to help pull this town together. I can analyze clues, behaviour, and can help guide blues to where they should act. The more we work together, the less we have to lose. The first lynch at the moment, as there is nothing to really go on, I believe is moot unless someone gives themself away obviously. Therefore I would lynch the most inactive player, or in the case of someone giving themself away, that person. Any other choice should be pardon'd instantly. Vote for unity, Vote for strength, Vote for bloodyc0bbler Notice the similarities between the two games he was innocent. He comes in with a plan, goes into detail, and gives genuine advice. In his game as a traitor, he offers nothing, says random gibberish, and is basically goofing off. He makes no serious attempt to do anything. Exactly like his campaign post this game. BC is a vet, and has played more games than almost anyone else (I think only Ace and maybe Caller leads him). He's also hosted a bunch of games as well (3). He knows what needs to be done. He knows what a mayor needs, he knows how to act as a townie; negligence is not an excuse. BC is acting very out of character and it's so blatant that it's obvious from just 1 post. Further Analysis: BC basically dodges the issue entirely, and frankly his response reeks of a calculated play to do the things that would make him look innocent to me. This is followed up with general uselessness while not remaining completely inactive, not an innocent BC trademark. Further slipups include telling me privately that the the two people who stand out the most are him and myself. He viewed me as being too helpful and thus suspicious, but that apparently did not stop him for voting for me despite the fact that I accused him?? He later retracted his vote for no stated reason, which makes it look more like a simple calculated reaction. He also says he has a rudimentary plan worked out, then never follows up on it in private or public. He also posts several times about how clue analysis is useless until day 3, but then acquiesces for no reason and does serious analysis in day 1. This would not be so much of a problem if it was not his only substantial contribution, but it certainly boggles the mind why someone would be so present, yet make his only real contribution on something he repeatedly said was useless. Meeple + Show Spoiler [Initial Analysis] + On February 15 2010 09:13 Ver wrote: Ok, we need to get discussion going. I don't have much time now so I'm just going to make a quick writeup on another guilty person. FYI by accusing these people I'm not necessarily saying I would lynch them but they have been suspicious and need to account for their actions. But we need to put the pressure on people who have not been acting in the town's interests. Meeple Last game Meeple was a Townie. Here are some day 1 posts to get you familiar with him. + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2010 11:56 meeple wrote: Hmm... the biggest clue that stands out to me is the strange monkeyish reference. I agree that highly caffeinated tea is out of place too... but it might be a stretch to think of Golden monkey black tea... unless we know that someone here is a huge fan of it. On January 20 2010 12:09 meeple wrote: It caught my eye too... but perhaps its not an apple... but something about an adams apple, since its in his throat. So perhaps something that's extra manly... or has an adams apple thats especially prominent. On January 20 2010 12:29 meeple wrote: Well... although cookie monster might have "barbaric" movements... I don't think they would draw the line between him and monkey. Although, if I were thinking from a game-making perspective... cookie monster and the cookie in The_Master's profile is too good to resist. On January 21 2010 00:25 meeple wrote: If we're going with just imagery, we might as well consider keit and the Cookie Monster. Much more barbaric and it can be paired with shoving the apple down his throat, like Cookie monster does with cookies. Things to note: -Lots of clue analysis -Actively giving his opinion -Trying his best to contribute -Posting extremely frequently Now let's look at Meeple this game: + Show Spoiler + On February 14 2010 10:13 meeple wrote: Clues I think are important to the game and although especially in the early game they are very little help and can sometime steer us away from realizing and recognizing suspicious posting habits.. On that note, it is very important as we saw in the last game to try and keep impartial since the mafia will no doubt try to twist the clues to sway our decisions. Just something to keep in mind... On February 14 2010 10:22 meeple wrote: I agree fairly heavily with Ver's above post.. The more active posters, the less places the mafia have to hide. Right now though, at least in my mind, the lynch target is a bit of a crapshoot. I'm naturally inclined to lean towards clues so Ace comes to mind as a target, but in reality picking an inactive might be just as likely to hit red. On February 14 2010 11:58 meeple wrote: I agree that he's on the right track, but try not to beleive so easily... he's a vet, which means he can play either role really well. I'm not pointing fingers, just saying that we need to keep our eyes open... On February 15 2010 03:32 meeple wrote: Yeah, I would ask the same. I'm skeptical as to how you came to those conclusions... Things to note: -Meeple praises clue analysis, but DOES ALMOST NOTHING HIMSELF -Lots of talking to other players, but little real contributions -Plenty of useless posts, where he writes words but says nothing new in them -Less active overall What do you think of this Meeple? Further Analysis: Like BC Meeple, basically avoided the accusation and continued on his merry way, which he was given the luxury of thanks to mountains of spam covering up the accusation. As further followup was impossible he's not 100% guilty but it certainly doesn't look good. I want to take a closer look at him when I wake up. Ace My certainty with Ace is less than with the above two but Ace really has no business being protected anyway with his performance so far as regardless of role he is hurting the town. Ace has been a consistent presence in the thread throughout the game, yet despite this fact he has given almost no real contributions at all. He has instead defended himself, caused a lot of chaos, and...not really said much else besides judging others. This does fit with his the behavior of his previous mafia performances (see here and here ). In these games Ace sits back, passes judgment on the play of others, and offers nothing himself. The only saving grace of Ace is his accusation and 'trap' of DrH, which while good seemed to be nothing more than a temporary fad that he gave up on promoting (if I am wrong please correct me, I couldn't find it via searching). Mystlord: Mystlord is on here at the request of L (who also requested Bill Murray but I don't see any reason for him to be mafia at all). A quick glance at his posts reveals that he has posted a bit, but said virtually nothing in them. Lots of anger at other people for being useless, yet doesn't do anything himself. This is a common mafia trait and otherwise Mystlord has done little to convince us of his use to the town. A brief glance Medic List: Chezinu Ver Caller DT check list: Fishball Shikyo LucasWoJ Citizen Fulgrim Quickstriker Tree.Hugger MasterDana The DT list is rather long but there is a pretty big subset of players that we lack information on and these are some of the more glaring of those, plus we don't want DT checks overlapping. | ||
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Ace
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Also don't you think it's odd that multiple people have tried to get me killed already? That surely has to raise some alarms right? | ||
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Zato-1
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On February 16 2010 19:26 Ace wrote: Seriously, with so many people accusing me of being scum with no proof that actually makes it more likely I'm town. Great logic here. Both townies AND members of whichever mafia family you're not on would only really want you killed if you're mafia. Why would mafia go out of their way to get you killed if you're from the Town? The flipside of this argument, of course, is that if you DO turn out to be mafia, that proves nothing about the allegiances of those who accused you- they're either townies trying to kill mafia, or mafia from the opposite family. The only way you're going to convince anyone of your innocence at this point is by: a. Clearly identifying the arguments made against you, then b. Proceeding to show why they're not compelling enough to label you as mafia. | ||
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Zato-1
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On February 16 2010 19:33 MasterDana wrote: lolwut. Abstained due to no real clear choice for presidency, and my question about how important a Mayor can be went unanswered, so I reverted to abstain. Pretty telling post, MasterDana. First time I see you posting something with substance since your candidacy. Also, pleading ignorance means you're either a very lazy townie, or mafia. Pleading ignorance is a very common mafia defense. On February 16 2010 19:33 MasterDana wrote: Why did we lynch Empyrean? Going off of posting habits seems like a real stretch unless there's a hugggeeee difference. I haven't played any previous games, but reading Ver's post about Empyrean's posting habits didn't seem all that drastic. Different, of course, but enough to lynch? Not really. Alas, lynched anyways and a green lays dead. Was Ver wrong, or trying to mislead us? Regardless, I think most agree that Redtooth hanging Empyrean was a mistake for the Townies, if he is indeed supporting them. Here, you're trying to cast suspicion on both Ver and redtooth, with extremely weak argumentation. Mislead us into lynching a townie? Why would Ver want to do that, if he was mafia? Clearly, a mafia member would've preferred to lynch a mafia from the opposite team. Same goes for redtooth. So why make these weak accusations behind them? Because you're feeling the heat, and want to shift it to someone else. Again, this is scummy behavior; if you make a weak accusation, you're not only diverting attention from yourself and giving the appearance of someone who's contributing, you're also not committing to anything because the accusation is weak. On February 16 2010 19:33 MasterDana wrote: Awkward collection of thoughts, but the point I'm trying to get across is that my faith in Redtooth as a pro-townie mayor is thin. Pardon the swear, but this couldn't be more half-assed. Trying to make yourself sound like the victim whose trust has been violated, who is ignorant of how he should vote and who expresses weak feelings of distrust like an injured deer... I don't buy it. What do you have to say for yourself, MasterDana? | ||
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