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On February 16 2010 23:55 madnessman wrote: Could someone explain to me why everybody is so certain Chezinu is DT and not a mafia member?! The only person that may be certain Chezinu is a DT is himself. The rest of us acknowledge the possibility that he's a DT. I for one will be waiting to hear from him tonight to see how he can back his claim up, after he has a chance to use his night ability.
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Also, its well nigh impossible to convincingly fake a DT in a game with two mafia families, you can't pretend to rolecheck anyone because there's a one in four chance the person you send a message to that says "I rolechecked you, you were town!" is going to be enemy mafia and kill your ass. Even if they're not, you might hit a blue, and be exposed as a fraud.
With this, I'm off to play a mardi gras gig tonight, won't be active til tomorrow
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On February 16 2010 21:33 Ace wrote: You make it sound as if defending myself is a bad idea Ver.
Also don't you think it's odd that multiple people have tried to get me killed already? That surely has to raise some alarms right? If you are also trying to paint yourself as a victim here, I don't buy it. Who exactly are these multiple people who asked for your head Ace? When asked by meeple I specifically stated you were a concern, but 2nd tier to Emp. As far as I can tell most people took a similar view. In the post you are replying to, Ver says this:
My certainty with Ace is less than with the above two but Ace really has no business being protected anyway with his performance so far as regardless of role he is hurting the town. Again, not asking for your head, just saying you are somewhat suspect. At the start of the game, Zato-1 mentioned the clue links, but also said they should be taken "with a metric tonne of salt". Same thing for L - who said "Ace, lol what happened. Incog hates you."
You are a smart player deliberately positioning yourself as a 2nd tier suspect. You are not a victim.
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On February 16 2010 09:53 SugiuraMidori wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Ver - Always a town suspicion BloodyC0bbler - Early town suspicion DoctorHelvetica - Town suspicion MasterDana johnnyspazz Ace - Swing Voter citi.zen Vivi57
Empyrean LucasWoJ XeliN Amber[Light] Fishball QuickStriker 789 - Admitted to profile-clue matches. dozko Nikoner - Swing Voter tree.hugger ShoCkeyy Zato-1 - I still think he's red Fulgrim meeple - Swing Voter Chezinu - Has claimed DT for what his word is worth Scamp d3_crescentia - Swing Voter L - Pardoner Zona - Odd behavior Iaaan ~OpZ~ sidesprang Shikyo Caller ohN Abenson nemY Mystlord - Profile clue match? redtooth - Mayor (Claimed Medic) CynanMachae Phrujbaz tredmasta - Swing Voter SugiuraMidori Bill Murray - Swing Voter iNfuNdiBuLuM [NyC]HoBbes Versatile Faronel Malongo decafchicken l10f Foolishness - Acted red to me. madnessman _________________________________________________ I'll save Italics for potential lynch candidates. If anyone would like a medic list, I can use underline for that.
Up for suggestions, updates, and fixes. I'd love if we could keep this updated and have it act as a summary.
Jesus Christ on a motorbike, how can you post that. How sure are you that the info you posted is 100% correct? You can't be. This is what I meant by "don't blindly post lists of mafia".
On February 16 2010 20:02 Ver wrote:+ Show Spoiler +A few things to address:
-Quit spamming the thread. This is the most active game ever and it's seriously hindering the ability of a) reading important posts (they get buried) and b) forcing people to be accountable (accusations get buried). We seriously should start enforcing a rule (as players, not as host at least for this game) to ban 1 liners and any low content posts.
-My accusation of Empyrean was not final, it was a setup. He messed up but he had a chance to prove himself, which was not really granted given his and my inactivity. Rarely is it feasible to be able to declare someone mafia by analysis without any kind of response. This is why it is critical that when someone is accused with serious evidence backing it that we make them accountable and not just let them brush it off and ignore it.
It's astonishing despite how enormous this thread is, a large number of people have said virtually nothing or nothing of importance. More attention needs to be brought to light on this, as these people are seriously crippling our ability to gather information. I'm sure some of them are simply put off by how large this thread is since some people insist on spamming useless posts over and over again. We need to force these people to start talking and get real information out there.
I went through the thread and compiled a 'useless list' of people who haven't made any serious contribution this game. A certain few are not there for various reasons, though it is possible I may have forgotten some. If you're on this list, better start posting and giving the best contribution you can if you want to help the town win.
Phrujbaz quickstriker shikyo Opz Decaf amber Xelin Nikoner tree.hugger MasterDana JohnnySpazz Ohn Tredmasta l10f Faronel Nemy Shockeyy Scamp Cynanmachae Sidesprang Fishball Abenson
If you feel you are on this list unjustly, prove me wrong about your uselessness.
Why aren't you on your list? Or SuguiraMidori? I guess posting random lists of people is useful, I better start doing it then.
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On February 16 2010 21:28 Ver wrote:I wish I had more time to work with this list but I'm overtired as it is and don't have time to finish the analysis on a few othesr. So I'm putting it out there now and hopefully people can add on and I can fine tune it after I wake up. Do not Protect List:Bloodyc0bbler:+ Show Spoiler [Initial accusation] +On February 14 2010 10:58 Ver wrote:Time to start things rolling. My primary suspect for the first lynch is Bloodyc0bbler. Obviously he's only posted twice since the game started, an election post and another useless psot. BC runs for election quite a bit. I've taken the liberty of gathering up his previous election campaigns so you can compare them. + Show Spoiler [Chuiu's game 5 as Townie] +On March 17 2009 17:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ok everyone, unlike the flashy gimicks of caller, I offer substance to my platform!.
to start with heres my portfolio.
Name: BloodyC0bbler Mafia experience: 5(6 if you count callers as two go's), 1 game run, 1 game co hosted
Looking at just the one stat alone, I have the experience to lead this town to victory! In mafia 2, I was town aligned and we won, mafia 3 we as town dominated the mafia, mafia 4 was ruined by a jerkoff so well, can't really say much there. Tracils game ended early, but my side was winning. Callers first game ended day one with VI win, and his second game I as VI won.
I have a high precident of winning the games on the side im part of, with ability, and luck like that, I would be an obvious goodluck charm for the town.
Now, witha ll the extra things I do on TL (PX, Location thread, etc...) You guys know I spend way to much time here, giving me the most amount of time to really jump ontop of things, I can analyze clues well which is helpful in your sheriff.
That is my background,
As for what I will do for the town to win.
As sheriff or mayor, I will help guide the town where I can doing what I do best, Analysis. I can analyze clues, behaviour of players and guide us in a winning direction.
As sheriff, I can jail 4 people in a game once per person, this allows me to save potential targets from mafia in a night, or jail the mafia lowering their KP.
As mayor I can guide us towards killing the right suspect, and with a day 1 auto lynch, kill the person who is the most fishy to the town, but in the end, that will come to a consensus among the town first.
Now for a plan. We all know the town works better when organized, as such, neither mayor nor sheriff can guide this town to victory without being under suspect (we always flip as mayor or sheriff regardless of any other role).
So heres the plan.
Medics protect veteran players early. When one of them takes a hit, the medic should roleclaim to that person AND that person should claim they took a hit. That person then gets checked. They get the medic checked as well. If BOTH check out, they both come out and serve as figureheads for the town. They coordinate blue abilities but keep information on to the town.
When the person is hit they speak up. The sheriff then locks him up, protecting him from night hits while a dt checks him out. Once verified we repeat process with med, and have two figureheads, as opposed to the regular one.
In the event the person who is hit doesnt speak up, the medic speaks up, we verify them first, then the one hit after.
This is our best chance at getting town leadership quickly. + Show Spoiler [Qatol's game 8 as Traitor] +On May 16 2009 15:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote: OK BOYO'S!
Ok guys, this game will be the hardest one potentially we have ever done, as such we need to get the mafia as soon as this game starts. I've shown a record of insane amount of clue analyzing from previous games, as such I believe I would make a good candidate for the town to keep alive. I however, would prefer to be pardoner, this allows me to help prevent potentially townbreaking lynches.
As mayor, I would analyze the clues (as this is my forte) and bring them to your attention and direct votes on the best possible suspects, thus bringing the town some central leadership to avoid chaos.
As pardoner, I would do generally the same idea, however, would use my ability to prevent lynches on cases where it appeared someone with no links was up for no reason.
Vote for order, vote for BloodyC0bbler
+ Show Spoiler [Plexa's game 12, Townie] +On July 03 2009 07:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: OK first off
I AM RUNNING FOR OFFICE
I am already seeing idiocy of players that has led to many vets getting insanely discouraged with playing these games. I appreciate Plexa for trying to make this game interesting with the addition of different roles, tweaking how some work, and the addition of fog. Now lets outline why I should be in office.
Weather
I'm already seeing debate on weather, and You guys are saying opt for rain? We have two medics, each have an extra life, and they can protect people. Historically medics have sucked more than any other role in the game, IE don't depend on them early game, how hard is this to understand, MEDICS DO NOT WIN GAMES. This instantly gets rid of the damn rain option.
Next we have sunny which allows our assassins to attack. If you guys vote for this I will kill you. EVEN IF they hit a mafia, which we all jump and joy in, there is a chance they hit the godfather, and guess what, this means the godfather role gets given to another mafia and we have to find the damn guy again, way to much effort, so sunny isn't an option we want, also vigi roles aren't always reliable, lynches are where we have to win, so SUNNY is out.
Next we have snow, snow is useful for hey additional clues. Guess what, most of the top clue analyzers from all previous games aren't in this one, IE the amount of people benefiting from these clues is so damn small its not worth voting on, so we ignore snow.
This leaves fog, ie WE SPAM FOG. All greens should be voting fog every day to keep it going. It removes the pledges kp from the mafia. So if there would be at least 1 possibly as high as 3 or 4 pledges. This will reduce a KP from the mafia meaning 1-2 less people die at night. THAT IS A GUARENTEE. Medics are not guarenteed to protect so this is a safer bet. So we spam fog until the pledges are all dead, then move on to a different weather. Also note, with fog reducing the mafia KP, the suicide bomber will be less likely to use his ability as it removes even more kp from them.
Leadership In most games I have played, I have worked in some way in town circles working for the benefit of the town, many times leading to a win for the town. This gives me the experience to help lead the town and help keep it organized. The towns in the last few games have been reduced to very small voices screaming at a mass of chaos and leads to failure, it has to stop. I would make an excellent choice for the leadership purely based off my experience at keeping some form of order. Untop of that, for once I am one of a very few in terms of a specific skill. I, as ive said in other games, clue analyze. Out of the current player base of this game, Myself and Pyrr are most likely most known for spending time on clues (there may be one or two people from pyrr's game , but i didnt pay much attention to it). This means either him or myself should have the bg protection purely to keep us alive to use that skill. I will do my best to keep us alive.
Double Lynch I will make sure we get these used on top mafia targets, IE if we have two insanely guilty looking people, double lynch will be used. We wont have to worry about constantly voting for double lynch one day, then worrying mafia stop it. IT WILL GET USED and by god it will get by the town.
These are merely a few points, but seriously with the debate of what to vote on for weather, A strong player is needed as the emperor or we are all fucked.
Vote for me
but more importantly VOTE FOR FOG + Show Spoiler [This game] +On February 14 2010 07:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As the game as begun, it is time to get it started.
I, BloodyC0bbler, am running for the position of mayor.
I believe the town can easily win this if we work together, as a concise unit, and do so before the mafia can create their own plans. Action must happen now. My campaign is on a platform of strength. I believe I have the strength to help pull this town together. I can analyze clues, behaviour, and can help guide blues to where they should act. The more we work together, the less we have to lose. The first lynch at the moment, as there is nothing to really go on, I believe is moot unless someone gives themself away obviously. Therefore I would lynch the most inactive player, or in the case of someone giving themself away, that person. Any other choice should be pardon'd instantly.
Vote for unity, Vote for strength, Vote for bloodyc0bbler Notice the similarities between the two games he was innocent. He comes in with a plan, goes into detail, and gives genuine advice. In his game as a traitor, he offers nothing, says random gibberish, and is basically goofing off. He makes no serious attempt to do anything. Exactly like his campaign post this game. BC is a vet, and has played more games than almost anyone else (I think only Ace and maybe Caller leads him). He's also hosted a bunch of games as well (3). He knows what needs to be done. He knows what a mayor needs, he knows how to act as a townie; negligence is not an excuse. BC is acting very out of character and it's so blatant that it's obvious from just 1 post. Further Analysis: BC basically dodges the issue entirely, and frankly his response reeks of a calculated play to do the things that would make him look innocent to me. This is followed up with general uselessness while not remaining completely inactive, not an innocent BC trademark. Further slipups include telling me privately that the the two people who stand out the most are him and myself. He viewed me as being too helpful and thus suspicious, but that apparently did not stop him for voting for me despite the fact that I accused him?? He later retracted his vote for no stated reason, which makes it look more like a simple calculated reaction. He also says he has a rudimentary plan worked out, then never follows up on it in private or public. He also posts several times about how clue analysis is useless until day 3, but then acquiesces for no reason and does serious analysis in day 1. This would not be so much of a problem if it was not his only substantial contribution, but it certainly boggles the mind why someone would be so present, yet make his only real contribution on something he repeatedly said was useless. Meeple+ Show Spoiler [Initial Analysis] +On February 15 2010 09:13 Ver wrote:Ok, we need to get discussion going. I don't have much time now so I'm just going to make a quick writeup on another guilty person. FYI by accusing these people I'm not necessarily saying I would lynch them but they have been suspicious and need to account for their actions. But we need to put the pressure on people who have not been acting in the town's interests. Meeple Last game Meeple was a Townie. Here are some day 1 posts to get you familiar with him. + Show Spoiler +On January 20 2010 11:56 meeple wrote: Hmm... the biggest clue that stands out to me is the strange monkeyish reference.
I agree that highly caffeinated tea is out of place too... but it might be a stretch to think of Golden monkey black tea... unless we know that someone here is a huge fan of it. On January 20 2010 12:09 meeple wrote: It caught my eye too... but perhaps its not an apple... but something about an adams apple, since its in his throat. So perhaps something that's extra manly... or has an adams apple thats especially prominent. On January 20 2010 12:29 meeple wrote: Well... although cookie monster might have "barbaric" movements... I don't think they would draw the line between him and monkey. Although, if I were thinking from a game-making perspective... cookie monster and the cookie in The_Master's profile is too good to resist. On January 21 2010 00:25 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2010 23:12 citi.zen wrote:On January 20 2010 23:10 magicbullet wrote: "lifting his fists and taunting them with strange barbaric noises"
Definitely a clue in here, it does not go naturally with the rest of the sentence.
But how is these related to Hobbes or the Leviathan ? Look at Hobbes' picture - raised fists, could be interpreted as taunting + tiger could account for noises. If we're going with just imagery, we might as well consider keit and the Cookie Monster. Much more barbaric and it can be paired with shoving the apple down his throat, like Cookie monster does with cookies. Things to note: -Lots of clue analysis -Actively giving his opinion -Trying his best to contribute -Posting extremely frequently Now let's look at Meeple this game: + Show Spoiler +On February 14 2010 10:13 meeple wrote: Clues I think are important to the game and although especially in the early game they are very little help and can sometime steer us away from realizing and recognizing suspicious posting habits.. On that note, it is very important as we saw in the last game to try and keep impartial since the mafia will no doubt try to twist the clues to sway our decisions.
Just something to keep in mind...
On February 14 2010 10:22 meeple wrote: I agree fairly heavily with Ver's above post.. The more active posters, the less places the mafia have to hide.
Right now though, at least in my mind, the lynch target is a bit of a crapshoot. I'm naturally inclined to lean towards clues so Ace comes to mind as a target, but in reality picking an inactive might be just as likely to hit red. On February 14 2010 11:58 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2010 11:55 Abenson wrote:On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote: Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started.
First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on.
Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid.
Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this.
I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon.
ALL HAIL ACE based on the past mafia games i've read he's usually right o.o I agree that he's on the right track, but try not to beleive so easily... he's a vet, which means he can play either role really well. I'm not pointing fingers, just saying that we need to keep our eyes open... On February 15 2010 03:32 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2010 03:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Bill Murrays defense hasn't impressed me one bit. I'm not 100% convinced he's mafia, but if he is not this is just terrible play.
Bill Murray, at the very least give reasons as to why you think those people are mafia. Why do you refuse to justify your statements? Do you actually think it's helpful to come in and say "OH BTW THESE DUDES ARE MAFIA AND L IS DA GODFATHER AND BC IS THE OTHER FAMILIES GODFATHER, L8R" Yeah, I would ask the same. I'm skeptical as to how you came to those conclusions... Things to note: -Meeple praises clue analysis, but DOES ALMOST NOTHING HIMSELF -Lots of talking to other players, but little real contributions -Plenty of useless posts, where he writes words but says nothing new in them -Less active overall What do you think of this Meeple? Further Analysis: Like BC Meeple, basically avoided the accusation and continued on his merry way, which he was given the luxury of thanks to mountains of spam covering up the accusation. As further followup was impossible he's not 100% guilty but it certainly doesn't look good. I want to take a closer look at him when I wake up. AceMy certainty with Ace is less than with the above two but Ace really has no business being protected anyway with his performance so far as regardless of role he is hurting the town. Ace has been a consistent presence in the thread throughout the game, yet despite this fact he has given almost no real contributions at all. He has instead defended himself, caused a lot of chaos, and...not really said much else besides judging others. This does fit with his the behavior of his previous mafia performances (see here and here ). In these games Ace sits back, passes judgment on the play of others, and offers nothing himself. The only saving grace of Ace is his accusation and 'trap' of DrH, which while good seemed to be nothing more than a temporary fad that he gave up on promoting (if I am wrong please correct me, I couldn't find it via searching). Mystlord: Mystlord is on here at the request of L (who also requested Bill Murray but I don't see any reason for him to be mafia at all). A quick glance at his posts reveals that he has posted a bit, but said virtually nothing in them. Lots of anger at other people for being useless, yet doesn't do anything himself. This is a common mafia trait and otherwise Mystlord has done little to convince us of his use to the town. A brief glance Medic List:Chezinu Ver Caller DT check list:Fishball Shikyo LucasWoJ Citizen Fulgrim Quickstriker Tree.Hugger MasterDana The DT list is rather long but there is a pretty big subset of players that we lack information on and these are some of the more glaring of those, plus we don't want DT checks overlapping.
I didn't avoid anything, I responded to it quickly after you posted. You only looked at the first day of the last game, where the level of activity was ridiculous. And I have a week of midterms coming up, so I simply don't have the same amount of time that I used to have.
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Also, note the time of this... since I posted it in the other game:
On February 02 2010 20:59 meeple wrote:Isn't this a dangerous time for people with midterms just around the corner?
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For anyone in the general know how, and medics feel free to not prot me. However, Ver has tried to guess my role, as well as actively pm people this game. Both are actions Ver rarely takes. Read earlier in the thread and you will find that he "RC'd" to BM. I will spend some time once ive showered going over his posts and analyzing him, but he is not as safe an option to prot any more than I am.
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Ver PMed me but to be honest it seemed like a good town player hunting an inactive rather than anything out of the ordinary. I have him pegged as "good player" because of it, I wouldn't make the link to "Mafia".
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I tallied up the list of ppl who made vote swaps. I may have made a mistake or two (in which case could someone double check it please?), but I feel like this may give a better clue to who our mafia may really be, and at least it it allows us to do some analysis, rather than say... making a list of ppl you "feel" are mafia
Chezinu 5x DoctorHelvetica 3x MasterDana 1x [NyC]HoBbes 1x 789 2x Bill Murray 6x BloodyC0bbler 1x tree.hugger 1x Fulgrim 1x Nikoner 2x Ace 2x Caller 2x Decafchicken 1x d3_crescentia 3x citi.zen 2x meeple 1x sidesprang 1x SugiuraMidori 1x Empyrean 1x (he’s dead now though)
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On February 17 2010 03:07 Phrujbaz wrote: Ver PMed me but to be honest it seemed like a good town player hunting an inactive rather than anything out of the ordinary. I have him pegged as "good player" because of it, I wouldn't make the link to "Mafia".
Maybe you haven't played enough. But Ver does not like playing mafia in Pm's typically, nor do I. Just showerd, so I will go compare his posting to previous games, but he is playing very as per his normal play.
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On February 17 2010 03:16 nemY wrote: I tallied up the list of ppl who made vote swaps. I may have made a mistake or two (in which case could someone double check it please?), but I feel like this may give a better clue to who our mafia may really be, and at least it it allows us to do some analysis, rather than say... making a list of ppl you "feel" are mafia
Chezinu 5x DoctorHelvetica 3x MasterDana 1x [NyC]HoBbes 1x 789 2x Bill Murray 6x BloodyC0bbler 1x tree.hugger 1x Fulgrim 1x Nikoner 2x Ace 2x Caller 2x Decafchicken 1x d3_crescentia 3x citi.zen 2x meeple 1x sidesprang 1x SugiuraMidori 1x Empyrean 1x (he’s dead now though)
Are you sure we should focus on those who made too many vote swaps? Maybe focus on the people who voted once, or those who voted very quickly and never swapped, those who voted in the last 5 hours of the election.
I think the vote swapping needs to be examined on a level deeper than saying "well player x swapped his vote 5 times." I'm always suspicious of people who abstain and then switch on to someone towards the end of the election. Those people should be looked at more than like, Chezinu who vote swaps because of whatever reason...like what type of soda he's drinking (this must be it).
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i've only been able to get through the last 15 pages or so, does anyone know the page the first day post is on? there's just so much spamming going on. if it's a hassle don't worry, i can just continue to look through posts later today.
i'll wait to make analysis based on the next day's post/ what comes of this night. i hate basing analysis on clues primarily, but i haven't played with many of you so i think i determining guilt/innocence through interpreting behavior at first would be a mistake.
i would have to agree that the spamming is a serious issue. there have been some accusations made that got lost pages ago because of this, and i haven't even had the chance to read everything yet. it leads to a lack of follow up because people can just pretend they never saw it. hopefully (some) people will change their posting behavior.
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On February 17 2010 04:12 Versatile wrote: i've only been able to get through the last 15 pages or so, does anyone know the page the first day post is on? there's just so much spamming going on. if it's a hassle don't worry, i can just continue to look through posts later today.
i'll wait to make analysis based on the next day's post/ what comes of this night. i hate basing analysis on clues primarily, but i haven't played with many of you so i think i determining guilt/innocence through interpreting behavior at first would be a mistake.
i would have to agree that the spamming is a serious issue. there have been some accusations made that got lost pages ago because of this, and i haven't even had the chance to read everything yet. it leads to a lack of follow up because people can just pretend they never saw it. hopefully (some) people will change their posting behavior.
First night post is day 10 first day post is page 63
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nvm on the day post question, found the link in the first post on the first page
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On February 17 2010 03:16 nemY wrote: I tallied up the list of ppl who made vote swaps. I may have made a mistake or two (in which case could someone double check it please?), but I feel like this may give a better clue to who our mafia may really be, and at least it it allows us to do some analysis, rather than say... making a list of ppl you "feel" are mafia
Chezinu 5x DoctorHelvetica 3x MasterDana 1x [NyC]HoBbes 1x 789 2x Bill Murray 6x BloodyC0bbler 1x tree.hugger 1x Fulgrim 1x Nikoner 2x Ace 2x Caller 2x Decafchicken 1x d3_crescentia 3x citi.zen 2x meeple 1x sidesprang 1x SugiuraMidori 1x Empyrean 1x (he’s dead now though)
If you're complaining about no one supplying relevant information, than why make this list lol?
At least say who the votes were for.
On February 16 2010 14:40 Chezinu wrote: What does tredmasta, Phrujbaz, ohN, and MasterDana have in common?
They all abstain. They all ignored my pm's. They shall be on the mafia' hit list.
Is this a scumtell? Please explain.
I just woke up so I'll give my thoughts on malongos plan in a bit as well as an updated/better formatted compilation of arguments/opinions.
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i didn't notice that i was painted red on that list as I was busy doing things last night.
in this game setup I do not feel like roleclaiming as medic is as bad as it would be in nearly any other setup, as all 3 factions will potentially have a need for you at one point
I didn't realize I vote swapped even more than chezinu, but if he was doing it for the same reasons I was, he is probably innocent. Being green, you really don't know who to side with (at least I don't), and when people make good points and act in a certain way they will draw your votes. There was a time when I felt like there weren't any good candidates anymore, and I actually abstained.
I voted for redtooth so he couldn't be pardoner. I was the last person to vote, and I was making certain that he wouldn't be able to pardon ace if ace was red and got lynched... although he will probably die in 3 hours? but then again they might mistake me for red if they aren't the brightest crayons in the box. maybe i'll be dead. we'll see.
to all of you blindly following advise on who to protect: don't.
It would be better to not protect anyone than to be protecting a mafia member and tipping the scale in the favor of the other family.
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On February 17 2010 03:16 nemY wrote: I tallied up the list of ppl who made vote swaps. I may have made a mistake or two (in which case could someone double check it please?), but I feel like this may give a better clue to who our mafia may really be, and at least it it allows us to do some analysis, rather than say... making a list of ppl you "feel" are mafia
Chezinu 5x DoctorHelvetica 3x MasterDana 1x [NyC]HoBbes 1x 789 2x Bill Murray 6x BloodyC0bbler 1x tree.hugger 1x Fulgrim 1x Nikoner 2x Ace 2x Caller 2x Decafchicken 1x d3_crescentia 3x citi.zen 2x meeple 1x sidesprang 1x SugiuraMidori 1x Empyrean 1x (he’s dead now though)
1. Why would you count abstaining as a "switch"? I only voted for DrH and RT, yet I have a 3x. 2. This post is completely void of content, yet is took some effort on your part (just not serious thinking about what and why you are going through the motions). Exactly the sort of thing that smacks of a bad attempt to "blend in" from a semi-active mafia member.
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On February 16 2010 19:26 Ace wrote: Even though Vivi is wrong about me(as expected) it's funny to see him say I'm in the same Mafia family as BC because BC defended me. Lol.
Seriously, with so many people accusing me of being scum with no proof that actually makes it more likely I'm town. since you're both mafia, are you saying bc defending you makes it more likely that you're in *different* families?
Ver asked if I could see both of you as leading families and I disagreed. It's way more likely that Ace/bc leads one family and ver leads the other.
On that note, I have a radical idea. Since Ver and bc are both really good at hunting mafia and both are heads of their families,
what does the town think of medics protecting Ver and BloodyC0bbler
We need to play this game to make the mafia families attack each other rather than the town. If we lose all good players, the mafia hits will go off randomly. However, if we keep them alive, they can keep analyzing and systematically killing the other family with fewer "misses" (town hits). I think this would be great and would help the town alot actually.
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It would be better to not protect anyone than to be protecting a mafia member and tipping the scale in the favor of the other family.
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