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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 19:02:28
July 30 2012 19:00 GMT
#61
Asked to leave, she ain't having it. Oh, man. Drama.
Feel really bad for her.
Big water
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#62
On July 31 2012 03:57 m4AC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 03:53 Tralalo wrote:
On July 31 2012 03:46 Mafe wrote:
On July 31 2012 03:35 Leporello wrote:
What happened? I just tuned in and the Korean is sulking, hard.

Overtime: coinflip decided the korean would win if no one scored in overtime (with the opponent not scoring the same time). No decision happens, but in the last seconds the german fencer furiously attacks, resulting in both scoring at the same time repeatedly.

Clock is at 0:01, the german attacks (the whole action taking less than 1 second). Same thing again, clock still at 0:01. Then the german scores winning the match. Now confusion starts over timekeeping. It seemed as if the clock only counts full seconds, and since every of the last 3 action took less than a full second its own (but maybe more than 1 sceond accummulated), the clock didn't jump to 0:00. Or the timekeeper simply wasn't fast enough with the restart (clock automatically stops if one or both score).

Make of this what you want. The korean fencer only waited to counter during overtime and coinflips for decision obviously suck. However with better clock-technique/timekeeping I thinkh she would have advanced. Whatever happened, the fencers should be the last ones to blame imho.


You forgot about the awkward moment, where the clock jumped to 0:00 and suddenly they resetted it back to 0:01. In my opinion it should have ended right there.


IIRC the clock jumped to 0:00 after the double hit was landed. Asked myself how that was even possible since the clock normally stops right when a hit is landed.

Yeah timekeeper started time by accident there, that's part of the problem.
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
July 30 2012 19:02 GMT
#63
Poor woman
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 30 2012 19:02 GMT
#64
This is what happens at sports that don't get a lot of coverage =( I know for a fact that a lot of shady rulings happen all the time in competitive martial arts too but no one ever cares. I really don't understand the pay to appeal rule though, what's that about?
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 30 2012 19:03 GMT
#65
On July 31 2012 04:02 Count9 wrote:
This is what happens at sports that don't get a lot of coverage =( I know for a fact that a lot of shady rulings happen all the time in competitive martial arts too but no one ever cares. I really don't understand the pay to appeal rule though, what's that about?

It's a deposit afaik, if your appeal's accepted you get it back. Discourages frivolous battling, I suppose.

This is ugly. Neither of these two are going to win their next bouts, good luck having any mental composure. Incoming UKR gold.
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
July 30 2012 19:08 GMT
#66
Worse than kespa.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. 우정호 1988 - 2012
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
July 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#67
Just watched it back on the BBC player. What a farce. I feel so bad for her
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
July 30 2012 19:13 GMT
#68
This has been the worst Olympic ever. Korea already robbed of like 3 very possible potential gold medals and series of other terrible calls. They have to respect the ref's decision? MY ASS.

KBS (korean broadcasting) summed up the entire sequence, and the hit came 1.17 seconds after it began at 1 second. Apparently the committee has said that wrong call has been made, but not reverting the decision... I'm just waiting to hear the good news but unlikely..
ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
July 30 2012 19:18 GMT
#69
Fighting now for the bronze. 2-0 up! GOGO SHIN!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 19:19:44
July 30 2012 19:19 GMT
#70
I don´t understand why it was so difficult to revert the decision? Can anyone explain why?
Thojorin
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany162 Posts
July 30 2012 19:19 GMT
#71
btw, watching fencing is very irritating - these beeps (also from other lanes) always make me think that some of my household electronics have some sort of malfunction
It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. --- Roger Babson
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
July 30 2012 19:19 GMT
#72
On July 31 2012 04:13 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
This has been the worst Olympic ever. Korea already robbed of like 3 very possible potential gold medals and series of other terrible calls. They have to respect the ref's decision? MY ASS.

KBS (korean broadcasting) summed up the entire sequence, and the hit came 1.17 seconds after it began at 1 second. Apparently the committee has said that wrong call has been made, but not reverting the decision... I'm just waiting to hear the good news but unlikely..

This is common for Olympic rulings is it not? It seems like they frequently will say the wrong decision was made but not overturn it in order to not undermine the judges.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
July 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#73
On July 31 2012 04:13 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
This has been the worst Olympic ever. Korea already robbed of like 3 very possible potential gold medals and series of other terrible calls. They have to respect the ref's decision? MY ASS.

KBS (korean broadcasting) summed up the entire sequence, and the hit came 1.17 seconds after it began at 1 second. Apparently the committee has said that wrong call has been made, but not reverting the decision... I'm just waiting to hear the good news but unlikely..

No olympics can ever be "worse" than ones we had in germany so far.. hopefully.
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 19:21:08
July 30 2012 19:20 GMT
#74
The german fencer should have just given up the bout... What was wrong with her anyway jumping up and down and handshaking a person who is obviously completely broken by a retarded call?

Edit: Mafe, of course... I am just talking about as in calls made. I am sure such things will never happen again!
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
July 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#75
On July 31 2012 04:20 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
The german fencer should have just given up the bout... What was wrong with her anyway jumping up and down and handshaking a person who is obviously completely broken by a retarded call?

Edit: Mafe, of course... I am just talking about as in calls made. I am sure such things will never happen again!


This is the Olympics bro
Writer
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
July 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#76
On July 31 2012 04:20 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
The german fencer should have just given up the bout... What was wrong with her anyway jumping up and down and handshaking a person who is obviously completely broken by a retarded call?

Edit: Mafe, of course... I am just talking about as in calls made. I am sure such things will never happen again!

It's difficult to have an accurate sense of time when in such an intense moment like that, she had adrenaline pumping through her veins and probably thought she did it.
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 19:26:18
July 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#77
according to the bbc commentators, there was no way shin could have won anyway because she made a technical infringment and had a yellow card against her, even before the whole 1 second debacle

edit: in the event of the draw of course, she still could have gotten a point and won legit etc
did you read the script?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
July 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#78
I´m loving the crowd support.
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
July 30 2012 19:26 GMT
#79
On July 31 2012 04:23 l10f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 04:20 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
The german fencer should have just given up the bout... What was wrong with her anyway jumping up and down and handshaking a person who is obviously completely broken by a retarded call?

Edit: Mafe, of course... I am just talking about as in calls made. I am sure such things will never happen again!


This is the Olympics bro


Such things like MUNICH will never happen again......
Thojorin
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany162 Posts
July 30 2012 19:27 GMT
#80
On July 31 2012 04:19 Raelcun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 04:13 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
This has been the worst Olympic ever. Korea already robbed of like 3 very possible potential gold medals and series of other terrible calls. They have to respect the ref's decision? MY ASS.

KBS (korean broadcasting) summed up the entire sequence, and the hit came 1.17 seconds after it began at 1 second. Apparently the committee has said that wrong call has been made, but not reverting the decision... I'm just waiting to hear the good news but unlikely..

This is common for Olympic rulings is it not? It seems like they frequently will say the wrong decision was made but not overturn it in order to not undermine the judges.


I feel that no other way is pragmatic. If you have no "quick" final ruling, quibbles about decisions would become comon procedure. However "quick" final rulings are prone to mistakes. Imagine declaring half of the winners two days after the event has taken place.... The only way i see is to reduce the amount of mistakes as much as possible, but mistakes will always remain.
It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final. --- Roger Babson
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