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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 18:32:30
August 01 2012 18:20 GMT
#161
Unbelievable results this olympics. Egypt in foil? Norway and Venezuela in epee? Kelsey finally performing??

GO NORWAY GO USA

EDIT: oh my god and Kelsey loses to a foot touch with most of the minute gone and his priority. Ouch.
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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
August 01 2012 18:45 GMT
#162
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lol
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lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
August 01 2012 18:49 GMT
#163
On August 02 2012 03:20 tree.hugger wrote:
Unbelievable results this olympics. Egypt in foil? Norway and Venezuela in epee? Kelsey finally performing??

GO NORWAY GO USA

EDIT: oh my god and Kelsey loses to a foot touch with most of the minute gone and his priority. Ouch.

That was a dumbass way to lose a point..
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 18:53:13
August 01 2012 18:51 GMT
#164
On August 02 2012 03:49 lisward wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 03:20 tree.hugger wrote:
Unbelievable results this olympics. Egypt in foil? Norway and Venezuela in epee? Kelsey finally performing??

GO NORWAY GO USA

EDIT: oh my god and Kelsey loses to a foot touch with most of the minute gone and his priority. Ouch.

That was a dumbass way to lose a point..

Jung was even showing he was able to go for the foot repeatedly. Smart hit though, punishes Kelsey's... interesting footwork.

Let's see if Zagunis manages to hold the lead this time...
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
August 01 2012 19:13 GMT
#165
Shin get's medal after all <3
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TehPrime
Profile Joined February 2012
United States180 Posts
August 01 2012 19:45 GMT
#166
Korea got their women's fencing gold.. but the announcer said "people's republic of korea". Jesus christ, how stupid can you be.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 01 2012 19:47 GMT
#167
korean are sick at fencing i see
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nohbrows
Profile Joined February 2011
United States653 Posts
August 01 2012 20:37 GMT
#168
Some of the most electric fencing bouts, and the most craziest underdogs coming up through this tournament. Exciting. Really exciting.

Park Jiyeon was really good in that saber finals. Korean in me was leaping for joy.

Sad that Zangunis didn't win anything.

Seizon Senryaku!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 01 2012 20:49 GMT
#169
On August 02 2012 03:45 l10f wrote:
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lol

wtf is going on here? lolol
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#170
On August 02 2012 04:13 lisward wrote:
Shin get's medal after all <3


It's good to see people admit they are wrong. Seriously people need to be able to do that more often. It's okay to be wrong and make a mistake and admit to it.


On August 02 2012 04:45 TehPrime wrote:
Korea got their women's fencing gold.. but the announcer said "people's republic of korea". Jesus christ, how stupid can you be.


LOL yeah but I love how nobody cared bc they were too happy
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 21:02:06
August 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#171
On August 02 2012 03:20 tree.hugger wrote:
Unbelievable results this olympics. Egypt in foil? Norway and Venezuela in epee? Kelsey finally performing??

GO NORWAY GO USA

EDIT: oh my god and Kelsey loses to a foot touch with most of the minute gone and his priority. Ouch.

Ruben Limardo is 13th this year. Not really a surprise. But Piasecki ... WTF he is 47th this year; his best placing EVER was 12 ... As for Abouelkassem, he is 5th this year. Not really a surprise either.

Those results aren't magical except for Heidemann and Piasecki, all the rest are top 20 in the WC and even though not seeing the french isn't a surprise as our individual results aren't that good these last 4 years.

China and South Korea are improving very fast.

On August 02 2012 05:54 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 04:13 lisward wrote:
Shin get's medal after all <3

It's good to see people admit they are wrong. Seriously people need to be able to do that more often. It's okay to be wrong and make a mistake and admit to it.

Except the judges weren't wrong (aside from the position of the German during the last assaut). All these people white-knighting her as if she was the only one in the world to have suffer from apparent injustice ... it seriously makes me cringes. Nobody is making a fuss about the opponents the chinese faced due to matchfixing ... And nobody gave Vastine a medal last Olympics even though he was never hit during the last 12s ...

Still she isn't to blame, her coach should have told her to go back inside (she has to remain inside the competition area but not specifically on the track). This public expression of sadness isn't to my liking ...
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
August 01 2012 21:20 GMT
#172
On August 02 2012 05:49 Klogon wrote:
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On August 02 2012 03:45 l10f wrote:
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lol

wtf is going on here? lolol


haha i saw this match. choi was claiming that baldini got a point off by stabbing his butt, which should not count as a pt since it's not torso. so they were trying to reenact that point to see if there was something wrong with choi's suit in the butt area that would incorrectly give baldini a point.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 01 2012 21:27 GMT
#173
On August 02 2012 05:54 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 03:20 tree.hugger wrote:
Unbelievable results this olympics. Egypt in foil? Norway and Venezuela in epee? Kelsey finally performing??

GO NORWAY GO USA

EDIT: oh my god and Kelsey loses to a foot touch with most of the minute gone and his priority. Ouch.

Ruben Limardo is 13th this year. Not really a surprise. But Piasecki ... WTF he is 47th this year; his best placing EVER was 12 ... As for Abouelkassem, he is 5th this year. Not really a surprise either.

Those results aren't magical except for Heidemann and Piasecki, all the rest are top 20 in the WC and even though not seeing the french isn't a surprise as our individual results aren't that good these last 4 years.

China and South Korea are improving very fast.

Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 05:54 Klogon wrote:
On August 02 2012 04:13 lisward wrote:
Shin get's medal after all <3

It's good to see people admit they are wrong. Seriously people need to be able to do that more often. It's okay to be wrong and make a mistake and admit to it.

Except the judges weren't wrong (aside from the position of the German during the last assaut). All these people white-knighting her as if she was the only one in the world to have suffer from apparent injustice ... it seriously makes me cringes. Nobody is making a fuss about the opponents the chinese faced due to matchfixing ... And nobody gave Vastine a medal last Olympics even though he was never hit during the last 12s ...

Still she isn't to blame, her coach should have told her to go back inside (she has to remain inside the competition area but not specifically on the track). This public expression of sadness isn't to my liking ...

I know Abouelkassem is fantastic, and I know Limardo as well, but it's still fairly remarkable, and really exciting that countries outside of France, Italy, and occasionally Germany are doing so well. (Maybe not to you though!)
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 01 2012 21:41 GMT
#174
On August 02 2012 06:27 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 05:54 Otolia wrote:
On August 02 2012 03:20 tree.hugger wrote:
Unbelievable results this olympics. Egypt in foil? Norway and Venezuela in epee? Kelsey finally performing??

GO NORWAY GO USA

EDIT: oh my god and Kelsey loses to a foot touch with most of the minute gone and his priority. Ouch.

Ruben Limardo is 13th this year. Not really a surprise. But Piasecki ... WTF he is 47th this year; his best placing EVER was 12 ... As for Abouelkassem, he is 5th this year. Not really a surprise either.

Those results aren't magical except for Heidemann and Piasecki, all the rest are top 20 in the WC and even though not seeing the french isn't a surprise as our individual results aren't that good these last 4 years.

China and South Korea are improving very fast.

On August 02 2012 05:54 Klogon wrote:
On August 02 2012 04:13 lisward wrote:
Shin get's medal after all <3

It's good to see people admit they are wrong. Seriously people need to be able to do that more often. It's okay to be wrong and make a mistake and admit to it.

Except the judges weren't wrong (aside from the position of the German during the last assaut). All these people white-knighting her as if she was the only one in the world to have suffer from apparent injustice ... it seriously makes me cringes. Nobody is making a fuss about the opponents the chinese faced due to matchfixing ... And nobody gave Vastine a medal last Olympics even though he was never hit during the last 12s ...

Still she isn't to blame, her coach should have told her to go back inside (she has to remain inside the competition area but not specifically on the track). This public expression of sadness isn't to my liking ...

I know Abouelkassem is fantastic, and I know Limardo as well, but it's still fairly remarkable, and really exciting that countries outside of France, Italy, and occasionally Germany are doing so well. (Maybe not to you though!)

I knew we were going to suck this year but what the real test will be the team's event where France is always strong. Should we not place at least one of our team in the top 3, it would be a disaster. Still it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing in the long term as it would caused a reaction in the sport institution. Judo had a bad Beijing Olympics (no title) and now we will probably have the last fight of the Décosse génération with the new one (Riner generation) all having a medal (Gneto, Legrand, Pavia + Tcheuméo and Riner next)

PS : Abouelkassem trains in France ...
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 21:53:01
August 01 2012 21:45 GMT
#175
Shin Lam match was WRONG. She should have won and went on to the finals. And talking about sportsmanship, right thing to do would have been Heidemann at least acknowledging the mistake that has happened.

The special medal is not a gold, silver, or bronze. Shin rejected the medal because she wrongfully lost the bout for gold medal from ref's wrong decision. Otolia, if you believe that was the right call, go get your head checked please. You are the first and only person who thinks the decision is correct out of literally thousands of people who have seen this match. What makes you think that she stayed up on piste to appeal to public sympathy? Such thought of accusation is disgusting. Do you honestly think that an athlete who has practiced 4 years for this, won the gold bout, and taken away from her hand, is standing there to appeal to the public?

Anyways congrats to Kim Jiyeon for winning sabre final!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 22:08:27
August 01 2012 21:56 GMT
#176
On August 02 2012 06:45 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
Shin Lam match was WRONG. She should have won and went on to the finals. And talking about sportsmanship, right thing to do would have been Heidemann at least acknowledging the mistake that has happened.

The special medal is not a gold, silver, or bronze. Shin rejected the medal because she wrongfully lost the bout for gold medal from ref's wrong decision. Otolia, if you believe that was the right call, go get your head checked please. You are the first and only person who thinks the decision is correct out of literally thousands of people who have seen this match.

Anyways congrats to Kim Jiyeon for winning sabre final!

Hey keep it civil ! It may have been the wrong call but the judges didn't choose the winner based on the time left. She still could have touch her opponent during the last assaut but she didn't and that alone tramples the fact that the time wasn't stopped correctly. A superior competitor wins through and despite adversity not by whining and complaining. That's not the spirit of Olympism and that's not what I like to see in sport. In comparison, the decision in Judo was much more cruel for the Korean (even though the Judges ended up calling the superior athlete).

The last person who refused a medal was disqualified.

Edit : Oh the ninja edit ... Oh yes practice hard blah blah blah. I am not accusing her but her coach to have given her bad advice. And he knew that making her stay had a better chance of getting the public with her, that's called empathy. It's a normal human feeling (I had that too) and then I watch the game and saw the violence in the korean coach ... Suddenly I had less sympathy for her. And the irony is that she should have appealed the last point based on the position of the german. That was a human mistake and a human wrong call.

Edit 2 : won -> wins
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
August 01 2012 22:15 GMT
#177
On August 02 2012 06:56 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 06:45 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
Shin Lam match was WRONG. She should have won and went on to the finals. And talking about sportsmanship, right thing to do would have been Heidemann at least acknowledging the mistake that has happened.

The special medal is not a gold, silver, or bronze. Shin rejected the medal because she wrongfully lost the bout for gold medal from ref's wrong decision. Otolia, if you believe that was the right call, go get your head checked please. You are the first and only person who thinks the decision is correct out of literally thousands of people who have seen this match.

Anyways congrats to Kim Jiyeon for winning sabre final!

Hey keep it civil ! It may have been the wrong call but the judges didn't choose the winner based on the time left. She still could have touch her opponent during the last assaut but she didn't and that alone tramples the fact that the time wasn't stopped correctly. A superior competitor won through and despite adversity not by whining and complaining. That's not the spirit of Olympism and that's not what I like to see in sport. In comparison, the decision in Judo was much more cruel for the Korean (even though the Judges ended up calling the superior athlete).

The last person who refused a medal was disqualified.

Edit : Oh the ninja edit ... Oh yes practice hard blah blah blah. I am not accusing her but her coach to have given her bad advice. And he knew that making her stay had a better chance of getting the public with her, that's called empathy. It's a normal human feeling (I had that too) and then I watch the game and saw the violence in the korean coach ... Suddenly I had less sympathy for her. And the irony is that she should have appealed the last point based on the position of the german. That was a human mistake and a human wrong call.



Judges chose the winner after the match regulation time was over. If you shoot after the buzzer, the goal doesn't count. Heidemann landed her hit (a clean hit no doubt) during the match when the match should have been over already! So you are saying that it is Shin's fault of not touching her opponent during the last assault... wow. What about Olympic committee getting a better stop watch that will read to milliseconds? Didn't they ADMIT that their decision was wrong? Didn't they publicly announce that they will do a better job of time keeping from now? For f** sake, the time keeper was a 16 year old girl! Heidemann was NOT a superior competitor because she lost that fight, and went on with absolutely zero morality. Especially her comment on how you don't know if it is at 01:59 seconds or 009 seconds.. are you kidding me? When you talk about time, 01:00 to 01:59 is written as 2 seconds, and 0 to 00:59 is written as 1 second. The match had 1 second left and went on for extra 3 seconds. Why can't this be overturned? Respect ref's decision my ass!

In Judo case, Ebinuma admitted even after the fight that Korean judoka should have won. What makes you think that he is a superior athlete? You are entitled to your opinion but keep those to yourself, no one asked you who you think is the superior athlete. And being a superior athlete does not make wrong decisions right.

If my daughter was in olympics and lost to disgusting controversy, I would get pretty violent too. Getting public with her, empathy.. wa wa wa that is your opinion and that is what YOU think. I personally think the coach was trying to do his best to appeal in that situation. When gold bout is on the line, and they don't listen to you, and they make you PAY to appeal, I certainly do not think publicity was intended.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 01 2012 22:25 GMT
#178
Unless you want to enter a discussion about whether or not human judgement should be trusted over technology, we best keep this argument as it is now.
ssi.bal-listic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States568 Posts
August 02 2012 03:44 GMT
#179
man every time i think about / watch Shin A Lam's controversy, my body just fucking boils...
"It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" "The strong one doesn't win, the one that wins is strong"
Itzeddiieee
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)787 Posts
August 02 2012 03:56 GMT
#180
Kim Jiyeon wins Korea's first ever gold medal at fencing! congratulations to her
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