Olympic Fencing! - Page 7

On July 31 2012 04:37 vdale wrote:

Yeah sure, but I mean it definitely didn't help the German fencer to feel like the Korean deserved to win.

On July 31 2012 12:32 OpTicalRH wrote:
BBC, are you fucking kidding me?




Messing with Park Tae Hwan with ridiculous DSQ affecting his mentality and performance.
Then Korean judoka Cho Joon Ho wins JUDO 3:0 decision of 3 judgement and Japan audiences jeer and high officer calls them JAPAN WON!
Now with this fencing issues where 1 second is magically lengthened due to clock error followed up with disrespecting Shin on twitter.

This olympics is fucking disgusting for Koreans.

On July 31 2012 14:01 vasculaR wrote:


did that twitter post really happen? checking it now and it seems its gone.
real shame.. Zzz

On July 31 2012 14:09 Grettin wrote:


It's not the first time BBC deletes tweets.

On July 31 2012 14:01 vasculaR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
did that twitter post really happen? checking it now and it seems its gone.
real shame.. Zzz

On July 31 2012 13:26 lisward wrote:
I disagree that priority is a coinflip. Anyone who's fenced for a priority bout know's that the winner of the outcome is hardly 'random'.

Priority is given before the 1 minute bout if fenced so that the fencers don't drag out the match forever. It doesn't matter if your opponent is given priority or not, because in the 1 minute you are fencing, both fencers have equal chances of scoring a point.

There is no 'defender's advantage' in Epee, the reason why you were seeing Shin and the Gold medalist fence with a lot of counter attacks is due in part to the nature of their fencing style, when you post with a French grip most of the time you have to fence a counter attack-ish style because you lose a lot of strength and precision in your blade work. At the highest level of fencing, there is no 'mental' advantage to priority as well, you can never count on bleeding one minute, it was entirely Britta's fault that she let the match go to the last 3 seconds and was force to fleche every second. It didn't matter did it? She won anyway.

On July 31 2012 15:51 nohbrows wrote:


This so much.

I think the problem right now with all the media attention is the fact that fencing's rules are complicated to begin with and the sport itself isn't "mainstream" at all. I think a lot of the media aren't even thinking properly about the situation.

I watched the priority fight over and over for a good half hour. IMO, although the decision to make the run an extra second is questionable, I don't find it ridiculous that one second "went forever." I've been in situations many times where I wasn't able to get past a certain time mark because of how quickly I was getting hit as soon as the clock started. I'm surprised a lot of people were surprised at the fact that the 1 second was lasting forever. I thought it was one of the most normal things in the world.

The bigger issue was the fact that the German was WAAAAAYYY to close during the last few seconds of the bout during En garde. And the fact that Shin didn't keep protesting the fact that the distance was way to close.

Priority isn't a coinflip. A good fencer will just fence regardless of priority. There are no defender's advantages. Can't be. Everything is equal, bar the priority. And really, that's just a mentality thing. The better fencer will come out on top regardless.

On July 31 2012 13:40 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
http://sports.news.nate.com/view/20120731n08922?mid=s1315&cid=370312

Look at this moron all excited and worked up..
I am just glad that there are thousands, (I've never seen more support on yahoo articles, like 5000 thumbs up for each comment) of people supporting Shin and agreeing how ridiculous it was, both the decision, and German fencer's reaction.

On July 31 2012 20:53 LaNague wrote:
its not a sword :D

On July 31 2012 22:47 ahappystar wrote:
But it was 5:5, I mean the Korean was given an advantage with the coin flip, right? Why is it fair that the German girl loses if its a draw? Koreans have a long history of 'everyone is against us/us against the system/we lost because of a Japanese conspiracy' mentality when sports are concerned. Hearing comments like 'Europeans helping Europeans' is bull, seriously, anyone that lives on this continent will laugh at you. Officials who have been with fencing for most of their lives came to a decision after 30 minutes of consulting and yet people who haven't held a sword in their lives have all of the sudden become leet-haxor fencing masters who 'know injustice when they see it'.
It seems as though everything is within the rules of fencing except for the fact that the German was starting way too close.
This used to be a nice family thread with two pages

On July 31 2012 22:47 ahappystar wrote:Officials who have been with fencing for most of their lives came to a decision after 30 minutes of consulting and yet people who haven't held a sword in their lives have all of the sudden become leet-haxor fencing masters who 'know injustice when they see it'.
This used to be a nice family thread with two pages