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Humbalumba
Germany463 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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m4AC
Germany31 Posts
watch with milliseconds would help clearly. | ||
l10f
United States3241 Posts
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yotis
Czech Republic652 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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Caryc
Germany330 Posts
but tbh the whole random advantage thing is a joke... having no clear ruleset on the 1s /under 1 s thing too.. | ||
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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Dataleif
Sweden252 Posts
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Iodem
United States1173 Posts
On July 31 2012 03:35 Leporello wrote: What happened? I just tuned in and the Korean is sulking, hard. German scored the winning touch in the last second. The problem is, the 'last second' lasted for 4 seconds. And now the public announcer just said that the Koreans have to pay for their appeal to be heard. Why the hell would you do this? You're just tarnishing the Olympic Games as a 'pay to win' contest. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On July 31 2012 03:35 Leporello wrote: What happened? I just tuned in and the Korean is sulking, hard. Overtime: coinflip decided the korean would win if no one scored in overtime (with the opponent not scoring the same time). No decision happens, but in the last seconds the german fencer furiously attacks, resulting in both scoring at the same time repeatedly. Clock is at 0:01, the german attacks (the whole action taking less than 1 second). Same thing again, clock still at 0:01. Then the german scores winning the match. Now confusion starts over timekeeping. It seemed as if the clock only counts full seconds, and since every of the last 3 action took less than a full second its own (but maybe more than 1 sceond accummulated), the clock didn't jump to 0:00. Or the timekeeper simply wasn't fast enough with the restart (clock automatically stops if one or both score). Make of this what you want. The korean fencer only waited to counter during overtime and coinflips for decision obviously suck. However with better clock-technique/timekeeping I thinkh she would have advanced. Whatever happened, the fencers should be the last ones to blame imho. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
"By rule, if Shin leaves the piste, it will be seen as a sign of accepting the judge's decision." Wow. That's... an awkward rule. And it seems to me a pretty time-oriented sport. No excuse to not have more precise measurements/clocking. | ||
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Tralalo
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On July 31 2012 03:46 Mafe wrote: Overtime: coinflip decided the korean would win if no one scored in overtime (with the opponent not scoring the same time). No decision happens, but in the last seconds the german fencer furiously attacks, resulting in both scoring at the same time repeatedly. Clock is at 0:01, the german attacks (the whole action taking less than 1 second). Same thing again, clock still at 0:01. Then the german scores winning the match. Now confusion starts over timekeeping. It seemed as if the clock only counts full seconds, and since every of the last 3 action took less than a full second its own (but maybe more than 1 sceond accummulated), the clock didn't jump to 0:00. Or the timekeeper simply wasn't fast enough with the restart (clock automatically stops if one or both score). Make of this what you want. The korean fencer only waited to counter during overtime and coinflips for decision obviously suck. However with better clock-technique/timekeeping I thinkh she would have advanced. Whatever happened, the fencers should be the last ones to blame imho. You forgot about the awkward moment, where the clock jumped to 0:00 and suddenly they resetted it back to 0:01. In my opinion it should have ended right there. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On July 31 2012 03:53 Tralalo wrote: You forgot about the awkward moment, where the clock jumped to 0:00 and suddenly they resetted it back to 0:01. In my opinion it should have ended right there. Yes you're right. (I really forgot) | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On July 31 2012 03:53 Tralalo wrote: You forgot about the awkward moment, where the clock jumped to 0:00 and suddenly they resetted it back to 0:01. In my opinion it should have ended right there. The bout wasn't in progress when the clock went to 0:00, so it couldn't. Unfortunately, they can't reset fractions of a second. So we now see the flaws in: Timekeeping (and the necessity for decimals) Referees (what the hell kind of en garde distance was that?) Priority rule (random chance creating these situations at all). Korea should have won what happened, but that situation shouldn't have happened anyway - if Heidemann was made to en garde at a proper distance, who knows if that attack might have worked? Crazy. | ||
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m4AC
Germany31 Posts
On July 31 2012 03:53 Tralalo wrote: You forgot about the awkward moment, where the clock jumped to 0:00 and suddenly they resetted it back to 0:01. In my opinion it should have ended right there. IIRC the clock jumped to 0:00 after the double hit was landed. Asked myself how that was even possible since the clock normally stops right when a hit is landed. | ||
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
On July 31 2012 03:43 Iodem wrote: German scored the winning touch in the last second. The problem is, the 'last second' lasted for 4 seconds. And now the public announcer just said that the Koreans have to pay for their appeal to be heard. Why the hell would you do this? You're just tarnishing the Olympic Games as a 'pay to win' contest. 4 seconds sounds way too high. It felt like it was between 1 and 2 seconds. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
didnt the clock went to 0:00 when they weren't even fencing but after both scored. It was weird nontheless. | ||
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Thojorin
Germany162 Posts
I suspect that usually time tracking is more precise, or a referee's decision is accepted more readily if not that much is on the line. | ||
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